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New"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1149.0,"endTime":1152.45,"body":"terms don't help people move"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1149.0,"endTime":1152.45,"body":"through a grieving experience."},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1152.9,"endTime":1157.25,"body":"And if anything trying to apply"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1152.9,"endTime":1157.25,"body":"different terms only adds to the"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1157.25,"endTime":1160.22,"body":"confusion and conflicting"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1157.25,"endTime":1160.22,"body":"feelings a Grievers already"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1160.22,"endTime":1164.84,"body":"experiencing and at best, this"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1160.22,"endTime":1164.84,"body":"terminology only provides a"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1164.84,"endTime":1170.36,"body":"label to define the problem, but"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1164.84,"endTime":1170.36,"body":"does nothing to solve it. 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Because just like grief"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":2106.74,"endTime":2110.37,"body":"is cumulative, and it's"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":2106.74,"endTime":2110.37,"body":"cumulatively negative. So is"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":2110.37,"endTime":2114.42,"body":"healing. So everything that"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":2110.37,"endTime":2114.42,"body":"you're doing, to move yourself"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":2114.42,"endTime":2120.48,"body":"forward, that's cumulative, too,"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":2114.42,"endTime":2120.48,"body":"but in a good positive way. So"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":2120.48,"endTime":2124.17,"body":"keep doing those things. And"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":2120.48,"endTime":2124.17,"body":"remember, you always have this"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":2124.17,"endTime":2128.82,"body":"podcast to come back to. There's"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":2124.17,"endTime":2128.82,"body":"tons of other grief podcasts out"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":2128.82,"endTime":2134.01,"body":"there to inspire and to help you"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":2128.82,"endTime":2134.01,"body":"feel like you're part of a"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":2134.01,"endTime":2139.8,"body":"community. Because grievers are"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":2134.01,"endTime":2139.8,"body":"everywhere. We're everywhere"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":2139.8,"endTime":2143.64,"body":"because grief is everywhere. You"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":2139.8,"endTime":2143.64,"body":"just never know what the person"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":2143.67,"endTime":2146.94,"body":"walking by you on the street is"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":2143.67,"endTime":2146.94,"body":"going through. Alright, well,"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":2146.94,"endTime":2152.64,"body":"those are my takeaways and"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":2146.94,"endTime":2152.64,"body":"reflections for Episode 51. And"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":2153.0,"endTime":2156.51,"body":"I feel like I was all over the"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":2153.0,"endTime":2156.51,"body":"place, but I hope it was helpful"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":2156.51,"endTime":2161.25,"body":"and that you took something good"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":2156.51,"endTime":2161.25,"body":"from it. Yeah, just thank you"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":2161.25,"endTime":2165.09,"body":"for being here. Thank you for"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":2161.25,"endTime":2165.09,"body":"listening. And remember, when"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":2165.09,"endTime":2168.84,"body":"you unleash your heart, you"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":2165.09,"endTime":2168.84,"body":"unleash your life. Much love."},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":2172.86,"endTime":2176.55,"body":"From my heart to yours, thank"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":2172.86,"endTime":2176.55,"body":"you for listening. If you liked"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":2176.55,"endTime":2181.14,"body":"this episode, please share it"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":2176.55,"endTime":2181.14,"body":"because Sharing is caring. And"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":2181.14,"endTime":2184.71,"body":"until next time, give and share"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":2181.14,"endTime":2184.71,"body":"compassion by being hurt with"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":2184.71,"endTime":2188.82,"body":"yours. And if you're hurting"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":2184.71,"endTime":2188.82,"body":"know that what you're feeling is"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":2188.82,"endTime":2192.18,"body":"normal and natural. Much love my"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":2188.82,"endTime":2192.18,"body":"friend."}]}