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Lastly, by providing my"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":38.22,"endTime":42.39,"body":"heart with the ears and this"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":42.39,"endTime":45.6,"body":"platform, Grievers had the"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":42.39,"endTime":45.6,"body":"opportunity to share their"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":45.6,"endTime":50.64,"body":"wisdom and stories of loss and"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":45.6,"endTime":50.64,"body":"resiliency. How about we talk"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":50.64,"endTime":54.12,"body":"about grief like we talked about"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":50.64,"endTime":54.12,"body":"the weather? Let's get started."},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":55.83,"endTime":60.39,"body":"Thank you for choosing to listen"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":55.83,"endTime":60.39,"body":"to grieving voices today. 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And"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1691.84,"endTime":1696.04,"body":"how about we make the most of"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1696.04,"endTime":1700.54,"body":"it. Right? Thank you so much for"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1696.04,"endTime":1700.54,"body":"listening to today's episode,"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1700.81,"endTime":1704.02,"body":"which as I mentioned, I'm"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1700.81,"endTime":1704.02,"body":"dedicating to John James, the"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1704.02,"endTime":1707.65,"body":"founder of the grief recovery"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1704.02,"endTime":1707.65,"body":"method, and the grief recovery"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1707.71,"endTime":1713.95,"body":"Institute. A program that has"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1707.71,"endTime":1713.95,"body":"very much so changed my life and"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1713.95,"endTime":1719.02,"body":"has been the gift to me that has"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1713.95,"endTime":1719.02,"body":"kept on giving. If you would"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1719.02,"endTime":1722.53,"body":"like to learn more about this"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1719.02,"endTime":1722.53,"body":"amazing program, I encourage you"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1722.53,"endTime":1725.8,"body":"again to reach out to me check"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1722.53,"endTime":1725.8,"body":"out the show notes. And"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1725.8,"endTime":1729.94,"body":"remember, when you unleash your"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1725.8,"endTime":1729.94,"body":"heart, you unleash your life."},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1730.27,"endTime":1730.93,"body":"Much love."},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1738.829,"endTime":1742.519,"body":"From my heart to yours. Thank"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1738.829,"endTime":1742.519,"body":"you for listening. If you liked"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1742.519,"endTime":1747.109,"body":"this episode, please share it"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1742.519,"endTime":1747.109,"body":"because Sharing is caring. And"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1747.109,"endTime":1750.679,"body":"until next time, give and share"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1747.109,"endTime":1750.679,"body":"compassion by being hurt with"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1750.679,"endTime":1754.819,"body":"yours. And if you're hurting"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1750.679,"endTime":1754.819,"body":"know that what you're feeling is"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1754.819,"endTime":1758.149,"body":"normal and natural. Much love my"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1754.819,"endTime":1758.149,"body":"friend"}]}