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And again, he couldn't"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1105.12,"endTime":1110.91,"body":"walk through that darkness by"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1105.12,"endTime":1110.91,"body":"himself, he needed the support."},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1112.02,"endTime":1117.84,"body":"So that is the theme, I think"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1112.02,"endTime":1117.84,"body":"for this takeaways episode is,"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1118.17,"endTime":1123.09,"body":"is stepping into leadership in"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1118.17,"endTime":1123.09,"body":"our lives, being the leader of"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1123.12,"endTime":1128.25,"body":"our own lives, taking our lives"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1123.12,"endTime":1128.25,"body":"by the horns, getting the"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1128.25,"endTime":1134.01,"body":"support, finding the resources"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1128.25,"endTime":1134.01,"body":"we need, finding that which will"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1134.01,"endTime":1140.94,"body":"help us develop and grow and"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1134.01,"endTime":1140.94,"body":"learn into the people we want to"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1140.94,"endTime":1147.3,"body":"be the Griever that has learned"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1140.94,"endTime":1147.3,"body":"from the challenges and the"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1147.3,"endTime":1155.52,"body":"hardships, a Griever that has"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1147.3,"endTime":1155.52,"body":"found the hope to continue and"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1155.94,"endTime":1159.12,"body":"share their message in a"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1155.94,"endTime":1159.12,"body":"meaningful way."},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1160.44,"endTime":1164.01,"body":"And not everybody has to like"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1160.44,"endTime":1164.01,"body":"use their grief and user"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1164.01,"endTime":1168.81,"body":"challenges for good but there is"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1164.01,"endTime":1168.81,"body":"a lot of empowerment when you"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1168.81,"endTime":1173.37,"body":"find meaning in what you've"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1168.81,"endTime":1173.37,"body":"endured, and you turn it for the"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1173.37,"endTime":1177.66,"body":"good of others. There's a lot of"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1173.37,"endTime":1177.66,"body":"empowerment in that. There was a"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1177.66,"endTime":1181.17,"body":"quote that Christine shared and"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1177.66,"endTime":1181.17,"body":"I'm gonna really tie this up"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1181.17,"endTime":1185.49,"body":"with a bow with that with that"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1181.17,"endTime":1185.49,"body":"quote, but she said the"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1185.49,"endTime":1190.38,"body":"circumstances of life don't make"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1185.49,"endTime":1190.38,"body":"or break you, but they will"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1190.44,"endTime":1195.51,"body":"reveal you. So my question to"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1190.44,"endTime":1195.51,"body":"you today is What do you want"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1195.51,"endTime":1200.55,"body":"your grief to reveal about you?"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1195.51,"endTime":1200.55,"body":"What do you Why your"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1200.55,"endTime":1205.23,"body":"circumstances in life? To reveal"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1200.55,"endTime":1205.23,"body":"about you? Do you want them to"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1205.23,"endTime":1209.79,"body":"break you? Or do you want them"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1205.23,"endTime":1209.79,"body":"to make you and a part of that"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1209.79,"endTime":1215.19,"body":"is stepping into the leadership"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1209.79,"endTime":1215.19,"body":"of your own life. Be the leader"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1215.22,"endTime":1222.54,"body":"of you. You are the only one who"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1215.22,"endTime":1222.54,"body":"can lead you and it is solely"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1222.99,"endTime":1228.48,"body":"your responsibility. No one can"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1222.99,"endTime":1228.48,"body":"do it for you. No one can take"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1228.48,"endTime":1233.94,"body":"away the pain for you. It takes"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1228.48,"endTime":1233.94,"body":"you to do the work to be open to"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1233.94,"endTime":1240.87,"body":"doing the work to show up for"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1233.94,"endTime":1240.87,"body":"yourself in a big way so that"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1240.87,"endTime":1245.49,"body":"you can become the version of"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1240.87,"endTime":1245.49,"body":"you that you want to be so that"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1245.49,"endTime":1251.43,"body":"you can become version 2.0 That"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1245.49,"endTime":1251.43,"body":"you after grief. That's it for"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1251.43,"endTime":1255.66,"body":"today, my friends. I hope this"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1251.43,"endTime":1255.66,"body":"episode was inspiring. And if"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1255.66,"endTime":1258.42,"body":"you'd like to share your"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1255.66,"endTime":1258.42,"body":"thoughts on this episode, I"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1258.42,"endTime":1260.34,"body":"would love to hear it you can"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1258.42,"endTime":1260.34,"body":"email me"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1260.37,"endTime":1264.21,"body":"victoria@theunleashedheart.com"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1260.37,"endTime":1264.21,"body":"find me on Instagram"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1265.08,"endTime":1268.62,"body":"@theunleashedheart. If you love"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1265.08,"endTime":1268.62,"body":"this episode, please share it."},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1269.1,"endTime":1272.1,"body":"And again, don't forget to check"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1269.1,"endTime":1272.1,"body":"out the show notes for the link"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1272.1,"endTime":1276.06,"body":"to the app that I mentioned. And"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1272.1,"endTime":1276.06,"body":"remember, when you unleash your"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1276.06,"endTime":1279.24,"body":"heart you unleash your life."},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1276.06,"endTime":1279.24,"body":"Much love"}]}