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So thank you."},{"speaker":"Dianne Sotomey","startTime":1448.36,"endTime":1451.6,"body":"Thank you. It's"},{"speaker":"Dianne Sotomey","startTime":1448.36,"endTime":1451.6,"body":"been such a pleasure being on"},{"speaker":"Dianne Sotomey","startTime":1451.6,"endTime":1455.5,"body":"the show on the podcast with you"},{"speaker":"Dianne Sotomey","startTime":1451.6,"endTime":1455.5,"body":"Peter, like you I could also"},{"speaker":"Dianne Sotomey","startTime":1455.5,"endTime":1456.22,"body":"talk forever."},{"speaker":"Peter Blundell","startTime":1460.27,"endTime":1461.89,"body":"We must do it"},{"speaker":"Peter Blundell","startTime":1460.27,"endTime":1461.89,"body":"again. Thank you."},{"speaker":"Dianne Sotomey","startTime":1462.97,"endTime":1467.08,"body":"That would be"},{"speaker":"Dianne Sotomey","startTime":1462.97,"endTime":1467.08,"body":"lovely. Thank you. Yeah, thanks"},{"speaker":"Dianne Sotomey","startTime":1467.08,"endTime":1468.76,"body":"a lot. Bye bye."},{"speaker":"Peter Blundell","startTime":1470.5,"endTime":1472.27,"body":"If you enjoyed"},{"speaker":"Peter Blundell","startTime":1470.5,"endTime":1472.27,"body":"this episode, the Therapist"},{"speaker":"Peter Blundell","startTime":1472.27,"endTime":1475.57,"body":"Connect podcast please go to"},{"speaker":"Peter Blundell","startTime":1472.27,"endTime":1475.57,"body":"your favorite podcast platform"},{"speaker":"Peter Blundell","startTime":1475.57,"endTime":1476.62,"body":"and leave us a review"}]}