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Cotterman","startTime":2553.4440000000004,"endTime":2554.7740000000003,"body":"Thanks,"},{"speaker":"Megan Cotterman","startTime":2553.4440000000004,"endTime":2554.7740000000003,"body":"Galen, for having me on."},{"speaker":"Megan Cotterman","startTime":2554.7740000000003,"endTime":2557.7140000000004,"body":"I had so much fun with you"},{"speaker":"Megan Cotterman","startTime":2554.7740000000003,"endTime":2557.7140000000004,"body":"as well, and you can find"},{"speaker":"Megan Cotterman","startTime":2557.744,"endTime":2561.684,"body":"me at managedbymeganpm.com"},{"speaker":"Megan Cotterman","startTime":2557.744,"endTime":2561.684,"body":"or follow me on LinkedIn"},{"speaker":"Megan Cotterman","startTime":2561.804,"endTime":2562.724,"body":"at Megan Cotterman."},{"speaker":"Galen Low","startTime":2562.9640000000004,"endTime":2563.3140000000003,"body":"Awesome."},{"speaker":"Galen Low","startTime":2563.3340000000003,"endTime":2566.554,"body":"I will add those links to"},{"speaker":"Galen Low","startTime":2563.3340000000003,"endTime":2566.554,"body":"the show notes as well."},{"speaker":"Galen Low","startTime":2566.6440000000002,"endTime":2567.974,"body":"So yeah, so Megan Cotterman."},{"speaker":"Galen Low","startTime":2568.054,"endTime":2569.8940000000002,"body":"If you like what you heard"},{"speaker":"Galen Low","startTime":2568.054,"endTime":2569.8940000000002,"body":"today, reach out to her,"},{"speaker":"Galen Low","startTime":2569.934,"endTime":2571.384,"body":"and Megan, thanks again."},{"speaker":"Megan Cotterman","startTime":2571.6440000000002,"endTime":2572.3140000000003,"body":"Thanks, Galen."},{"speaker":"Megan Cotterman","startTime":2572.3940000000002,"endTime":2573.0440000000003,"body":"I'll talk to you soon."},{"speaker":"Galen Low","startTime":2573.5240000000003,"endTime":2574.054,"body":"All right, folks."},{"speaker":"Galen Low","startTime":2574.074,"endTime":2575.804,"body":"That's it for today's"},{"speaker":"Galen 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