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Eric & Collin speak on the initial reaction to the Drake album #ICEMAN, react to Chud The Builder getting arrested and give their take on the Kevin Hart Roast. 

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SPEAKER_04 0:22

Why should I have to love a man who don't love me? Why should I? Why should I have to break bread when I'm not everybody? Why should I be the one be the bigger man? Why should I live the hand?

SPEAKER_05 0:30

Why should I make the content? Shout out to the Apple Podcast and Spotify places and uh anybody else who streams podcasts. We're back on the audio stream. So definitely shout out to Spotify, Apple Podcasts. We definitely want those of you guys who listen on those platforms to hit that follow button and show some love. Big shout out to YouTube, W S-I-G-A-D on there. Big shout out to Instagram at W S A-G-A-D underscore content on there. We back once again. We got a lot to talk about. And without further ado, I'm not even going to waste any time. Iceman has dropped. Drake has dropped. Iceman and not only did he drop, he surprised us. And he dropped three albums. Not one, not two, three at one time. Now, I'm I'm seeing a little bit of debate about this because for some people they feel like there's an overconsumption point. We don't need all that. But as we were kind of alluding to before the podcast started, you know, you can't always please motherfuckers. Motherfuckers are gonna complain and find something negative no matter what. So I like the fact that, and I feel like it should be talked about more in this new era of music with streaming, that Beyonce and Drake are ushering in this era in the streaming world of I'm gonna give you multiple errors. I'm gonna, like, I know there's multiple versions of me. Some people like this version, some people like singing Drake, some people like rapping Drake, some people like soft Drake, some other people like hard Drake. Pause. But when you drop multiple albums and you got multiple projects, now I can give you everything that I offer in a different project. Same thing I feel like Beyonce's doing with a rock project. Then you got the RB project. She goes into the errors. Prince was one really good at that.

SPEAKER_02 2:28

I'm gonna tell you, don't sleep on Brooke Hogan. She's covering Aaliyah, she's she's covering a lot of RB tracks. So she Brooke Hogan and her RB era, let's watch out for that one too.

SPEAKER_05 2:38

Okay, shout out to R.I.P. Hulk. No, it's funny, though. Brooke Hogan, you kind of threw me off with that. Oh, I'm sorry. Brooke Hogan, because when I think about what's that one girl, Kesha? She reminds me of Kesha for some reason. Kesha got Bops though. They kind of remind me of the same person, so I start thinking about that music. But anyway, Iceman on the way, Iceman already here, Iceman rolling. Uh what was the how do you pronounce that other album? Is uh Iceman, Habidi, and then you got Maid of Honor or Maid of uh I've only really got the one listen to two with the U.

SPEAKER_02 3:16

Honor with the U, which shows me he's going for the European crowd. Okay, if you looked how he did it, and then a BBT, obviously, if you know that's that's singing, but again, that's that's for the Toronto baddies, the international. He had a very international vibe. He gave us stuff, the rap, the Iceman, he covered the beefs, he gave us uh some slaps. Tim Timbo said uh Janice WTF. That's that's gonna be a generational song. And then he got a BBT for the singer, for the for the girls, you know, the girls that like to stand in line and be fine. You know, I know a lot of girls like I didn't hear the rap, they had something for them. And then he the third album was pure international, not one dance vibe, but honestly never mind vibes, club vibes, sexy red, high tempo, a lot of bass, central C, some international people. He reached out to the young people. He he checked all the boxes. A lot of his stuff got leaked, and then you can start telling the information was real. Like when Future said future's gonna be an album, so I'm like, that has to be true. They said he was dropping three, so we can tell it was fake lead information, and how his information came out is clearly planning, it's leaked timely. So when the night started coming around, like, damn, he really might drop three. I really think future's gonna be on there, and I think for the most part, it delivered. We went out, you know. I got my thought birthday weekend in. I've been I've been dragging it, but every time I went out, you know, some some type of Drake is being played so far. It is. He dropped visuals for damn near everything right away. This was a very concise drop. It was even cool not to not to just harp on it, but it was cool just to see a rollout from a big artist. We don't see that anymore from what Axe said he spent most of all his money out of pocket to do this. So he really took time for this. You know, we've been waiting for this for a while. Even the big, like, you know, Kendrick probably had the last couple big, but his were surprise drops. You know, all we've been really getting is boss man, D Lo and random niggas. So to get a real big time, put all this stuff out, we were anticipating it. And like I said, it was definitely the it was definitely the soundtrack of the weekend. It passed all the bar and car tests.

SPEAKER_05 5:15

Yeah, I just feel like it's a good place for hip hop. Everybody's talking, everybody's debating. It's funny though, sometimes, and I tell people this, sometimes if you really want to enjoy a project, you gotta wait to get on social media. Like this was one of those projects where I kind of avoided the Facebook and I avoided a lot of uh social media as I was listening to it in the beginning, because a lot of people are gonna go for the clickbait. And music, music uh talk has gotten a lot like politic talk, is where people who have already kind of put the flag in the sand of which how they stand towards a Drake or a lot of, not just Drake, or a lot of artists, you know. And we're all guilty of it. We know we have our bias, we have we pe the people we like, the people we don't like. But when it comes to Drake, you got a lot of people now that's the made a whole personality and a whole, some even the living of clowning Drake. So no matter how good the music is, they can't allow themselves to be on public record, record giving it credit. And then you got a lot of people that are LA loyal, Kendrick loyal, all of that stuff. So no matter how good the music is, they have to say it's trash. Then you got the other people who are kind of stood on this moral high ground, these moral hip-hop high ground that I hate, where they make it seem like Drake is what's wrong with hip-hop, and he's this culture vulture, and I'm over here with the people who really represent hip-hop and really grew up in the trenches and really the real hip-hop guy.

SPEAKER_02 6:49

Being a pedo who sues his op after this, that's not hip-hop. People say that.

SPEAKER_05 6:55

I mean, that's not, but and it's funny that that's the narrative because he's the only motherfucker that actually suing Lucian Grange and UMG, which is the same people who bought out the company that was going at Mike, that was going at Prince.

SPEAKER_02 7:11

Like with people, he did he did re up his contract a few years ago.

SPEAKER_05 7:14

Was he really that mad? No, he had he had that mad. But see, the thing about it is the more money you get, the levels go up and you start seeing more and you start detecting more.

SPEAKER_02 7:23

But they always say if Drake is making 30 million off an album or 40 million, they always say his label's making about 200. So you're always gonna be Beyonce, you're always gonna be You're getting fucked over no matter what. But you know, is you're getting so much it's not a big deal.

SPEAKER_05 7:36

Yeah, I mean it's saying, are we against the man or not? Because at one point we like to put our little dashikis on and and have our Afro picks out and be against the man. But when it's actually time to go against the man, where the fuck are you gonna be?

SPEAKER_02 7:48

I love Drake, but Drake is kind of the man off his mama's side. I mean, he is kind of the biggest. I'm kind of realizing like the nigga side is holding him down because if he was like Jack Harlow or or Aiden Ross, oh, he'd be in there. I think the little niggas is kind of holding him down.

SPEAKER_05 8:04

I look at Drake like this, though. Yeah, you know, you get the barbed hand. Let's use your nigga talents and your Jew connections to slip through the cracks. I mean he is. And actually, that's why I look at it like this. Like you could be a nigga that slides through with the little hat with nigga connections and put niggas on. I don't think people like that. That's what he was doing, but as we don't think people like exactly Gross on, they don't like that. They don't like that. And I think what's going on right now is you're in a situation where nobody gets bigger than the program. We saw it with Mike, we saw it with Prince, we saw it with Mariah Carey.

SPEAKER_01 8:38

I think Hove's bigger than the program.

SPEAKER_05 8:40

He's because he became, and see, that's the gripe, and Hove is my goat. But the gripe with Hove is that he has become a part of the program. He's not bigger than the program. He has become a cog in the system of the program. It's like, look, you're this big, we're gonna give you a job. Because one thing about Hove, they always give him a job or something.

SPEAKER_01 9:00

You say he like raps Doc Rivers? He just always kind of finds a way to finesse it.

SPEAKER_05 9:04

I won't say Doc Rivers because his winning precision is time and the clutch is way different. His IQ is on a whole nother level than Doc Rivers. But what I will say is, I feel like Jay-Z is the gripe on Jay-Z, and the reason why I feel like you're seeing some of the artists and even the fans turn on Jay-Z is when we talk about this fight against the man or fight against the powers that be, the the illusion and the what people see in Jay-Z is you have become a part of the powers. That's why you have this influence. And my thing is we gotta kind of decide what does it mean to take over? What does it mean to take on? If we become, like with cops, right? You got cops that oppress us. Now, do we want more black cops? So so it so we don't have that type of racial bias, or do we want to eliminate cops altogether? Do we want more diversity in certain areas, or do we want to eliminate the area altogether? So even in this music shit, right? Do we want people like the Drakes and the Jay-Z to implement in infiltrate the system and become the Lucy and Grangers, become the UMGs, and become the uh Sony's, or do we want to keep on playing this game where we're waiting to get paid and waiting on our just due from the white guys?

SPEAKER_02 10:18

I think I think as fans, we need to physically support our artists and then we don't matter. It sucks with the streaming age, but we need to support our people. We need to have them do long running, which is great. I see older acts that still before. We need to support, especially for us. We're you know, mid-30s, getting up there, but our the acts that we grew up on are doing 10-year, 15-year anniversary. So we see people going, but I say all the same. We just need to support from merch. I mean, we're not really buying music no more, but we just need to support our artists so they don't need the labels. Even us getting in the conversation is fun, but at the same time, we're not. I mean, the reason is like that because we're not really buying a product, so they get to determine what goes on. So I I love a lot of little genres and I like I respect the other fan bases. I think we have the most finicky. I think a lot of ours is based on gossip and dumb stuff, and we're distracted by the facts. But overall, just like back to the album. I like the album. You know, a lot of people saying he shouldn't diss Kendrick. How do you feel about the disses and stuff? Because I mean he hit everybody, you know. We talked off, you know I'm happy he got some disses off, but a lot of people were saying, hey, you gotta leave Kendrick alone, you lost.

SPEAKER_05 11:19

Fuck that. I love the bronze. I love I love all the disses. Okay? All of this shit. Look, now we I'm glad you brought it back home, Colin. We've been crib walking for two years. We've been shucking and jiving and gyrating on shit. West Coast bopping for two years off pedophile anthem. We've been looking for Drake's daughter for two years. Ain't found her. Ain't found her. Where's she at? There she go. No, ain't found her. So my problem is y'all gotta be good sports. I'm not asking everybody to be a Kendrick fan. I'm not asking everybody to be a Drake fan. What I am asking is respect the fact that some people rock with either one, and we gotta let everybody have their moment. When Kendrick won, I was hating. But it I was hating because I just didn't like how the narrative dictated the victory and not the rhymes, not the bars. I feel like there was a narrative that was going on. There was a there gets to a point where people want you to lose. And when they get to, when you get to a point where people want you to lose, you're not gonna win the narrative battle. But it got to a point where Kendrick was getting so many wins that you just either had this, you either had to be a part of it or you had to get the fuck out the way and let them dudes have their shit. You went to the bar, everywhere you went, not like us was playing, and them niggas was cripwalking and having the time of their lives. And guess what? I'm not finna sit up there and just be the salty ass, what's the little Spongebob beep? When he's looking outside, everybody playing. I'm not gonna be the Spongebob beep all the time. I'm so you're either gonna join or you're gonna be like, you know what? Y'all got it. Y'all, you know what? The dance floor is yours.

SPEAKER_02 12:56

So you started blood walking after a while.

SPEAKER_05 12:58

And hell no. I started leaving. Can't beat him, join them. You've been with me, Colin. In places where the when the not like us is played, I walked out.

SPEAKER_02 13:05

Usually walk out. That and Meek Mills dreaming nightmares, he will walk out on. We was at a cracking pool party in Vegas, it's motto, this baddies around. This nigga walked dead out with the skull. I'm like, oh man, he really hates that. I can't. It's absolute disgusting. And you don't like when people with Down syndrome win contests on crews. I don't that's what I'm saying. I didn't put you out there.

SPEAKER_05 13:22

That's that's true, but that's what I don't but like I'm saying, like it's just we let y'all have fun with this shit. False allegations. Mind you, these are basically saying it's OVA time.

SPEAKER_02 13:34

You really saying it's OVO time. Shut the fuck up. If you ain't with it, shut the time. Like what you say.

SPEAKER_05 13:38

Shut the fuck up. Or this is nothing you motherfuckers do. Go go put the crib walking shit back on. But what do you do? Y'all still got GNX. It's still on your book.

SPEAKER_02 13:47

But what do you well like Drake said, you know, damn near a billion streams and disappear, hundred million streams. What's up? What a conversation. Where's the I just don't?

SPEAKER_05 13:54

I don't like the fact that you motherfuckers. I've seen motherfuckers, I gotta call motherfuckers out now, mas static. I gotta call you out. Who's that? This motherfucker, yeah, James Jones. I gotta call you out, man. No, he's a shout out to him. No, he it's all up. Who fucks with him? This is a playful little banter. He knows that. But he's a Drake hater, right? This motherfucker at 1210. Oh, this is moose pissed. This is true. This is trash. They called it moose pissed at 1210. My problem is a lot of you niggas was called gonna call the album trash no matter what. Let's just be honest. Whether you like Drake or not, when you went down your playlist, when y'all went down your friends list when the Drake dropped, the people you already knew was gonna say it trash said it was trash. And the people you already knew said it was fine, it's gonna say it's fine. It wasn't no surprises. Everybody stood on their loyalties and stood on their side. I respect the couple of you motherfuckers that's able to have nuance when these things drop and actually evaluate new music based on your actual reaction in real time. That's a lost art now. Everybody has become so biased and so closed-minded when it comes to everything that you're not gonna get that. So for those of you who still have the ability to critique things, not just anything, critique things in real time with a real, you know, no emotion, just how it is, that's a lost art. But I love the disses, Colin. All this, he shouldn't be dissing people. I just listened to you niggas praise two 50-year-old niggas for being 50-year-old drug dealer niggas. Y'all niggas gave them niggas Grammys. I'm talking about the clips. These niggas 50 still talking about drugs. Oh, this is the best, this is so lyrical, miracle. I'm having a miracle attack in my brain. It's so great. But then when Drake talks about shit that's actually happened in his life, right now, oh, he needs to grow up.

SPEAKER_02 15:37

He needs to do more, he needs to dig deep. He did have one, I don't remember the song, but he had a song where he had too many similes. That was one he was rapping like this, like he didn't like the Kendrick. Oh, I forgot. No, the West Coast song was kind of trash. I didn't like the West Coast song. That's about it, and I like most of the song, but it was a couple, it was it's always gonna be some skips. I haven't really got to the other albums.

SPEAKER_05 15:56

There was a funny meme of the Drake uh West Coast song to like this Malibu's most wanted ass shit. Like with the white dude rapping. No, I mean, but it I didn't like the West Coast.

SPEAKER_02 16:09

But the people out there, he has Drake fans that have so they're I'm already a juicing. I'm seeing doing because he let he did a great thing and let the streamers react while they did it. He let him do it, you know, to push the he knows I give it to people. He knows to give it Aiden Ross. He gave, I can't lie. I didn't like the Aiden Ross shot out at all. But him giving academics the OVO chain, he lost a that was disgusting. It can't be a 10 out of 10 album. I'm can't I can't lie. It was so nasty.

SPEAKER_05 16:31

And it wasn't Aiden Ross, but it was a close line.

SPEAKER_02 16:33

The Aiden Ross line, yeah, but I he's a little wormy Jew. I don't like how he's like he gets to kind of weasel the hip hop of culture, but the one reason kind of as much as I don't like Ack, he does get a point off, but I respect it because Ack was really the only nigga that held him down though. He had he down there sucked his meat dry up to yesterday. For real. And I realized when you're going back, everybody was either quiet or on Kendrick's side. He was the only person calling out. He even said TD niggas was because he knows he's one of these fake the thugs because he's in a he at home, so he's fucked the thugs. But he said TD niggas pulled up on me, tried to scare me, try to get me kicked out of the club. I didn't give a fuck. Like he was talking that crazy, he be talking a bunch, you fat foo bass. He be talking crazy. I'm like, he's Drake, but he didn't really have no dick riders, and I'm like, you know what? I'll reward you with a little change. Why not? Like I kind of saw you're the only nigga. When you put it like that, Kyle. Drake is about loyalty. Like, I'm putting Drake up there with Cameron, Jay-Z. The moment you're not loyal to me, fuck you. And it kind of showed, I get it, you know. Like, I don't think he's a culture virtual, he's smart. He's whole 2.0. The new ways, he put so many unknown artists on this album, the underground artists, you know, Molly Santana and all these people. He's been doing that. So I kind of get by like he just put niggas on. To this day, people went from 500,000 to 7.8 million, just listeners. He puts people on, and I feel like that should be appreciating today's culture. But he's also like, I did so much for y'all. Fuck y'all. I'm the same way. I don't really fuck with niggas. So when I fuck with you, you just even kind of owe me $10, I don't want to pay me no more. I'm heartbroken because I really fuck with niggas. So I like that, but this whole we gotta click up and that's gay to me. So I'm always gonna side with the loner. 50 cents. Every B he has is just be loyal. The moment you're not loyal, he did it 50 cents. You hung out with this nigga, fuck you.

SPEAKER_05 18:15

But you want to do it.

SPEAKER_02 18:16

If you hung out with this nigga, you're not, I'm not cool with you. I have to respect that. Dr. Dre, Jay-Z, I'm good on you. I'm straight. Lucian Graham, you're funding the nigga. Calling me a pedophile. I'm sure you're not gonna be fucking you.

SPEAKER_05 18:29

What's wrong with that? I'm sorry. I don't see nothing wrong with it. I think I saw some of the riddle, though. When it comes to a lot of this stuff, I feel like there's certain things that change how you listen to music and listen to lyrics. I feel like being hated on versus being the hater is a big differentiator. So when I when I when I look at people's opinions on a lot of this music talk, I realize that, oh, you were the hater. That's why certain music resonates with you. You weren't the person in the movie getting hated on. Some of us were the person in the movie getting hated on. So this, when we start hearing about motherfuckers getting stabbed in the back, and you thought a motherfucker was your friend. That hit us a little differently than y'all, because y'all was the niggas that was hating. So it don't hit the same. So when Kendra said shit, I'm the biggest hater, y'all caught the Holy Ghost. Y'all got the jumping, y'all got the Holy Spirit when he said that, because that hater shit is in y'all blood. It's in y'all DNA.

SPEAKER_02 19:30

That was a cold line when he said that.

SPEAKER_05 19:31

It's in y'all DNA.

SPEAKER_02 19:33

Oh, I see what you did there. You know what I mean? The hater spirits. Who do you think caught the worst diss? Who you think caught it the worst?

SPEAKER_05 19:40

Who caught the worst?

SPEAKER_02 19:41

Like you like, you know when you roasting and then a nigga laugh or you just start roasting everybody.

SPEAKER_05 19:44

Khaled, Khaled. Khaled, I like the Khaled discs because fuck Khaled. I feel like we should do a whole like regardless of what regardless of what we could do a side both. Here's my thing. Regardless of what side you are, let's say some of y'all hate Drake, some of y'all are pro-Kendrix, some of y'all would have. Some of y'all say, fuck both of them. Some of y'all say, yo, fuck with both of them. Regardless, I feel like as a culture, we should all just say, fuck Khaled and fuck Rick Ross. Them two niggas, I'm kind of done with. Don't get me wrong. Rick Ross, you got a catalog. You got some classics. Khaled, you even brought us some classics. They both got some shit they can trick contribute. They're lame. Them are two lame ass fat niggas. And I feel like the culture can do a little better than two lame ass, sloppy panda bearing body ass nigga.

SPEAKER_02 20:24

Ain't gonna lie, Khaled doesn't get right. So what was the single he just dropped with Baby and Future? Was it? He just dropped the single Baby and Future. Like, came and went in a day. Like his juice is gone, but you know, y'all know why his juice is gone, alright? He done had the Drake feature. I remember Drake for a lap for a little while now. He's been playing, he been saying, I got this Drake feature. Drake, no, you don't. But remember he said, like, I don't got like he he really kept it cool, but he's also looking like, cause again, remember you ever been with your parents and they say, like, uh, not telling the truth is the same as lying. You staying idle in the middle of this shit. He didn't like that. Hey, I gave you hits. Everybody, I'm going, I'm putting cases on you niggas. I gave you pussy niggas hits. Why aren't you staying? The only person that's why I do fuck, I fuck with all artists that keep you real. That's why I like the big three. Even if they sappy, annoying, corny, they all have their flaws. But even him, like he said, I don't, future, I don't get it. So we knew they would come back, but the only person that one hasn't took an L or has thrived is future. And the only person that I knew that Drake would be like, bro, you let these niggas drag you. He really couldn't understand, and I was glad to see them come back. Future again, you're a little weasley, you don't stand for nothing either. That's nigga, but you get a weasel video. You know me, I'm a big future fan, but I've future like Brian, you're really done to me, but niggas don't keep slurping, it's whatever. But I like that Drake said, You're the only person I don't get it. We don't really got no beef, but I like because I grew up on 50 Cent. Jay's, I'm going at everybody, even before then. Like, I like the how to how to how to rob, how to kill type feature. Like I just I'm about loyalty, and then when rap, everything is relationship. So if y'all gonna break the fourth wall of we all cool, and I'm just this random cornball Jew nigga. I'm out there. It's like if I'm around people all calling this, I'm cool on that. So I love that he can say on his own. And he also reflects like, I am a white Jew. I have Jewish connections. So I can get shit done. I don't really need you niggas, but okay.

SPEAKER_05 22:11

Let's keep it real though. Future was salty about the album with 21 Saturday.

SPEAKER_02 22:15

No, he was.

SPEAKER_05 22:15

And he don't want to admit it because it goes against his cool guy.

SPEAKER_02 22:18

They have more street stuff tied to it. So he don't future don't talk about nobody though. He doesn't.

SPEAKER_05 22:23

No, he'll never admit that because he's too cool. His image is too cool. But these are humans at the end of the day with real emotions. Nigga, you ain't. We know that too cool for school shit is not real in the real world. But I like I said, I'm glad he gave everybody their shots. I'm going to keep having the album in rotation. I feel like in a probably a couple weeks I can give you even better review. I can't really go too deep dive in review because we with so much music. See, the only downside to dropping so much music as once is I can't hyper focus on the songs as much because it's so much. I'm like a kid in a candy store right now. I can't focus on one toy. I'm at the yo-yos, then I'm at the games, then I'm over here with the other shit. Like it's I'm moving around like I just ate 10 packs of Skittles. So it's it's it's it's a good thing for hip hop, though, that we have these options and we have this. The last song that was on the charts before he dropped this was What Did I Miss?

SPEAKER_02 23:16

Oh the rap song? Last rap song. Rap song. It was a big drought.

SPEAKER_05 23:19

So it's been a drought. So regardless of what you say, numbers don't lie. It's been a drought. I've had to hear you niggas gas up 50-year-old Coke dealers for the last six, seven months. I've been disgusted. Now finding some real music for us non-criminals to enjoy. It's been a good so I mean we we're gonna get into that farther. Iceman is gonna be a whole month of whole. It's the summer. I don't see nobody dropping. You think it's gonna last that long? I don't see nobody dropping.

SPEAKER_02 23:47

I mean, he dropped all the visuals. He dropped everything.

SPEAKER_05 23:50

I do you think it's gonna last for like two more months? At least a month and at least another month. At least. Because there's gonna be at least another month where it's like, I just don't understand why anybody would drop. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:01

Unless you were on Iceman. So few niggas dropped this week, and I'm like, I don't, I forgot you're doing three lucky.

SPEAKER_05 24:07

A few smaller artists, like I'm not listening. And the Drake, and then as soon as he dropped yesterday, it was Drake weather. All of a sudden the sun came out, Drake weather ain't set the window down. Come on now. Look, I said, like, we're done with that window closed music. We'll get back to that in three minutes. This is window down music now, okay? Moving right along, we gotta get into this. First off, before I even go past that, I gotta go straight to the APs. I gotta go straight to the APs. Only because not only was that uh uh a nationwide kind of conversation online, but it was a local conversation here in the Milwaukee area. A lot of people, you know, I saw actually here, I saw a lot of people saying, Oh man, fuck that. For those of you guys who don't know, uh AP and Swatch are doing a uh a collab, which is gonna result in them making this whole set of $300 APs, a watch that normally goes for what six figures, five figures, you can get them between like I think like maybe 15 to 40,000.

SPEAKER_02 25:12

So about as much as much as a car. That's uh I mean those are random, but I'm talking about like when you the prices, yeah. That's those are rapper watches, and they they decided to do something else.

SPEAKER_05 25:22

And now you're able to get them for 300. And a lot of people, I saw a lot of people scoring out and that were scoffing. I also say a lot of people that said, I don't give a fuck, we finally finna get our APs.

SPEAKER_02 25:32

To be honest, they finally dropped, and the majority that shit was worse than any Jordan drive ever. So a lot of people was talking shit, but the whole time niggas like I'm either reselling or want it. People was getting maced. They canceled some of the it had a huge turnout. So again, that goes back to everybody's rich and noble, but yeah, niggas the the the numbers said otherwise.

SPEAKER_05 25:52

Well, it's funny because people were scoffing at the $300 watches, but I'm like, most of you niggas can't afford $300 watches.

SPEAKER_02 25:58

Why would you scoff at a $300 watch?

SPEAKER_05 26:00

I'm saying I'm not not me.

SPEAKER_02 26:02

I mean, like people, like who was who do you think is scoffing at?

SPEAKER_05 26:05

So you got people, and I feel like I feel like You feel like regular people or like they were regular people, but I feel like they were feeding off what they saw celebrities saying because that's what a lot. A lot of these niggas don't have father figures, so they watch the celebrities and then they give their reaction to them. So you got people like DDG that were coming out and were saying. He got money though. But that's my problem. DDG has money. So DDG comes out and says, Oh, I don't like this because it's bringing down the value of the watch, and I actually have a watch collection, which he got the money to have that. But then all of a sudden you get these EDG, FDG, BDG niggas that just, you know, great value DG ass niggas that go, yeah, man, uh, we don't need y'all finna fuck up the game, man. Real niggas, real player, nigga, y'all can't. Do we have doing a fit bit?

SPEAKER_02 26:49

Do we have stuff as regular people? Like, we regular working dudes. Do we have stuff when you see somebody as a bum? I mean a bum ass nigga. He starts wearing it. I don't want it no more. There has to be stuff because there's a couple times niggas, man, nigga got my. I think with shoes, I think we're changing the like we I think we have it a little bit.

SPEAKER_05 27:06

I think we're like that with shoes, because I think certainly bum ass niggas, you got Jordans too. Like you see, you owe child support.

SPEAKER_02 27:12

I'm good on Jordans.

SPEAKER_05 27:13

That's broken.

SPEAKER_02 27:14

Like we do that too, kind of.

SPEAKER_05 27:15

That's why I can never wear Yeezys. Cause I remember when Yeezys first came out, and that was like a luxury shoe. Niggas was wearing. Then I start seeing too many musty young niggas with Yeezys on. Listen, niggas that don't even got the odorant with Yeezys on, bummy niggas with Yeezys. You did a DDG though. That's because at our level, that's I did a low-level DDG. I'm not saying DDG is wrong, by the way. I'm not saying DDG. Because if I had DGG money, I would probably feel the same way. Like the bummy niggas are bringing down the money. You're bringing out the value, right?

SPEAKER_02 27:41

Your problem, the message of who's saying the message.

SPEAKER_05 27:43

My problem is the fact that now I feel like I don't even have my thing is this. Everybody just needs to stay in their lane and act appropriately. That's what I feel like.

SPEAKER_02 27:53

My lane is $300 AP because I'm my. I'm about to catch one. Shit.

SPEAKER_05 27:58

If I catch the $300, if I catch the, look, if I catch the Distance Sparta AP, the $300.

SPEAKER_02 28:04

So what was funny was it was like everything we saw when the first announcement came out were fake AI watches. That's why it was funny because they was like, we didn't really release no. So they found out it was a pocket watch, which I start talking I started listening to some watch experts and stuff. They broke down why they did, and they really broke down, they really want to give it's really for the women. You know, I see it a lot on purses, and they were like, you know, AP for the women, that's their worst-selling demographic. So they kind of wanted to go off a more luxurious laboo boo way.

SPEAKER_05 28:30

Wait, so all those color watches, that was all fake? That was AI shit?

SPEAKER_02 28:34

I mean, when you saw the watch, when you saw the color. When you saw the watches, they're a pocket watch. Yeah. So when you saw the bands and shit, that was just fake. There was no info.

SPEAKER_05 28:42

It's I fell for it like an old geezer.

SPEAKER_02 28:44

I fell for the AI. So the reason that they did it is I already picked my color out. I mean, they have it, it's just it's just on the string. It's on the string. But there obviously people are gonna people are gonna start making like 3D printed, you know, like an Apple Watch. They're gonna do like an Apple Watch. So a lot of people fell for it, and then also during the melee, the kafruffles, whatever the synonyms you want to use for that, when they had to get maze, the companies came out, AP and Swatch came out and said, Yo, this is not limited edition. We're putting them out. So everybody think they're gonna go and flip them for 3,000, everybody fighting and running. They're like, no, this ain't a weekend thing. They sold out, but we're gonna kind of it's probably gonna be like uh tail for our bags. Like we're gonna just kind of keep putting these out. So we saw how how the hype was, the dick riding away. We saw the whole thing, it was like a this was almost like a Popeye sandwich type of experiment. Like, niggas start camping out five days because everybody whole thing is I can flip, I can flip, I can flip. And then some people like I like to watch it, some people are on. It's just crazy seeing it, and I'm just like in your lane, like it's kind of cool. Like, I would I wouldn't mind getting it for like my girl or something like that. But other than that, I it was so weird just to see the the the the response to it. And to be honest, they we will talk to our for like four or five days. Damn near a week, like that was on every little may anytime I they would they were people were talking like, damn, this is kind of ridiculous, it's kind of crazy. Like, I didn't it's crazy how like we talk about it because we're doing a show, but like how niggas really get caught up in this type of stuff is kind of fascinating. It's kind of fine.

SPEAKER_05 30:14

Because I feel like it goes to the bigger topic. I mean, AP is the topic, but I feel like the bigger topic is why do people always feel the need to be fake rich? I feel like the worst thing to be is fake rich because you're putting unnecessary pressure on yourself. I feel like a lot of y'all suffer from anxiety and depression because you're fake rich, because you can't post shit, because you gotta live a certain life. You have to be at a certain angle to make it seem like you're in a section when you're not. You gotta go on vacation and make it look like you're spending a certain amount of money when you're not. So you put you can't even enjoy your W's because your W's don't stack up to the top 1%, because that's the type of messaging and that's the type of shit you put out to the world. So I feel like the bigger message here is no matter what, I don't give a fuck if you got a Walmart watch. If you like the shit and it goes with the fit and it makes you feel terrific, then that's really what the goal should be. I feel like you make the watch, the watch don't make you. You make the clothes, the clothes don't make you. And we gotten so caught up into branding and imaging, like you were talking about, like how we're even into this AP shit. I remember when Jay-Z and them first started talking about APs and automars and all sorts of shit. And Meek Mill made a whole career, every other verse, automar on my rest, automar, automar, automar, that's I can't stand his ass. Every other bar's automar on this damn web.

SPEAKER_02 31:34

Yeah, so they they actually did it because they would never do it. So I guess they tried to trademark the octagon face. They lost because they had so many imitation versions. Watch it, they would just make their own version. You could find that that that model for a lot of different brands. And I guess they lost a trademark battle because they were like it's just too specified, there's not bolts in certain areas. So they basically said, F it, let's just flood the streets and just make money. And if you like luxury, like I used to like clothes and shit, have you, you know, most brands have a broken nigga line, or at least a more affordable line, from polar to polo sport to to a lot. There's a lot of you know, babe has ape. So there's always an underline that you can find in other stores if you can't really get it. People don't know. I mean, it's it's there, so it's just another one, like I said, with social media, like I say, we're in a day where everybody's rich, and once you have a facade, you have to be on that where I just thought people in a certain tack back would be just happy, you have access affordability to like a luxury product. It's another line. I thought it was kind of cool. So I kind of get the the the people with money backlash, but it was a social experiment where I just showed, like, damn. Like, I be looking at America's, I'm like, we're just so lost in the sauce, it's kind of crazy.

SPEAKER_05 32:46

Blacks is just, I'm like, I never gotta ask Jim, like, what's the average income for blacks in America? I just need to know.

SPEAKER_02 32:54

I didn't put it on just blacks, but I understand they'll say, I don't really be caring about other people. So let me see.

SPEAKER_05 33:01

Because my problem is I know for the average income for black people in Milwaukee is around 37,000. A household. Not a person. Oh, I was a household. Per person, Lord. Per person is it's even less. So it's not to shit on nobody, but it's just to shed light to the numbers of what the numbers aren't adding up to the talk. And I feel like, and this is the this is one of the biggest reasons why I was so anti-Dame Dash. And now we're seeing him crash and burn. And me and Ronnie had many debates about this where I don't like the rhetoric of we shit on the regular guy. Where I feel like us as a people, especially black men, we are in no position to shit on the regular guy. We need jobs, regular jobs. We need like regular shit. We need uh if we want to have good things, we need people like the people who own AP to bring the prices down for us to be able to afford. Like, we gotta stop acting like we just got it like that. Like everybody got it like that. Yeah, some of us are blessed, some of us have been grinding, some of us got money to blow. But as a whole, the message that we should be sending to our people shouldn't be this message of just spending money frivolously and just acting as if it and everything is no money and just blowing money. That that that whole culture just needs to stop. And I feel like we just gotta get more serious when it comes to our money talk. And we gotta stop allowing these rich motherfuckers or the 1% of us to get in front of cameras and encourage just immature money spending, stupid behavior.

SPEAKER_02 34:34

Well, that's literally what influencer are there for. They know the masses are dumb. It's been happening for a while, it's propaganda, it's gonna happen forever. You gotta get some popular people to get the not so smart people to follow a trend. It's a trend. We're just getting older. We start feeling like we out the matrix order we get, we realize what matters. And then you're looking at your peers like, eh, we ain't got like that. And we in a city where most niggas is broke, so we don't even really want to hear all that talk, to be honest. Most niggas ain't traveled south past the Gary, Indiana, so.

SPEAKER_05 35:00

And that's where I'm at. I'm kind of at the point where I'm like, if you're not, if you're a broke nigga at my age, your vote, your opinion, your everything really don't really count to me. All your little opinions, your opinions on Iceman, all of that sort of shit. Broke niggas, nothing. I just, it doesn't matter because at the end of the day.

SPEAKER_02 35:19

I feel like you should, I feel like you should have a s you should make a certain amount to vote. I know that sounds kind of crazy, but like, you've been on unemployment. Well, but what would it be? What would it be? 15,000. 15 bands at least. Work something. I don't be one. I'm like, this nigga vote to count the same as mine. That is kind of crazy. And he's or you slow, or at least a reading level. Now I get it, but I'm like, eh, I don't feel like his vote should count the same as mine. That's kind of crazy. I'm sorry. I done I'm just trying to do the literacy test.

SPEAKER_01 35:45

I'm just saying.

SPEAKER_02 35:45

I know that's my little update.

SPEAKER_05 35:47

I'm gonna go to the literacy test, but I I wouldn't mind a 10 to 15k minimum on what you make a year. Because I'm disabled. Well, you able body, you just sitting in the crib. I don't think your vote should count the same as mine.

unknown 35:59

Come on now.

SPEAKER_05 36:00

Yeah, and it's crazy because you know, you want to know who that would actually affect the most. Yeah. These fat white motherfuckers sitting in the fucking crib right now that got all these these Fox News ass fat retarded white motherfuckers that sit at home. They don't, they, they, they're they're retarded, but because they're white, they're able to pass it off and and move along. These niggas don't need vote. I'll be, have you ever, if you get into these Fox News comment sections right now, you realize the reading level and comprehension levels are at an all-time low. And we talk a lot about how these stupid ass public school Milwaukee motherfuckers be, but a lot of you Sheboygan motherfuckers was retarded too. A lot of you motherfucking well, I would toaster niggas is while we're targeted. So we gotta start keeping it real. And I feel like if we start, I don't wanna I don't wanna get too in deep into making boundaries for people to vote, but if you're not a taxpayer, I'm I'm big on taxpayers. I'm big on if you work or you own a business or you're a contributor to society, I'm big on we should be separated from niggas who don't.

unknown 37:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 37:02

We should have different rights than you niggas. You niggas are sitting on your ass, not doing shit, and we gotta pay, shit gotta come out of our check for you to live. You shouldn't have the same pass at Disney World and I should have a fast pass. Yeah, you can get on rise, but I shouldn't see you in line with me. I shouldn't, when I'm when I'm getting when I'm in Mickey Mouse getting autographs, you should be over there with Donald and shit. You're not with Mickey. That's all I'm saying.

SPEAKER_02 37:27

That's more elitist than what I said. You only want to breathe the same air, you know. Adolph, Adolph Dylan shit.

SPEAKER_05 37:36

Because I feel like the whole point of America is the taxpayers. Taxpay these broken ass niggas. Taxpayers, the whole way how this works, America is a business. I feel like we realize that now. We're learning that in real time now.

SPEAKER_02 37:50

You know, you go to some people tax exempt.

SPEAKER_05 37:52

All right, well then you respect exempt.

unknown 37:54

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_05 37:54

What the fuck? Tax exempt? What are we doing? Tax exempt. You go to a buffet, you pay $50 to get a meal, this other thing. He just walk in, he's eating the same plate you got, you turn around. Oh, I'm just I'm just uh I'm meal pay exempt. Yeah, all right, cool. I mean, then that's you know, you go somewhere, you know you at that point you're like, okay, that ain't got nothing to do with me. But how do you go about that? But then you go and you try to sit in a little city seat. Oh, uh uh, you can't sit here. Uh the tap the pay all the exempt niggas are sitting in your seats. You gotta stand to eat your food.

unknown 38:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 38:27

Hey, but I paid though.

SPEAKER_02 38:29

You still pocket watcher?

SPEAKER_05 38:30

No, I get I just I'm a pocket watcher, though.

SPEAKER_02 38:33

I get it, I got it.

SPEAKER_05 38:33

I'm a pocket watcher.

SPEAKER_02 38:34

I understand, I understand.

SPEAKER_05 38:35

I'm just saying, like, it got to the point, and I I get it, it gets to that elite shit, but we get into the point where the deficit is getting high, gas five, six dollars a gallon. Really, in order to really move around uh America and really be comfortable, anything you're doing right now, you gotta have a bag. Any movement you're behind right now, you gotta have a bag. The only way, these politicians, even when you look at the local level, the only way you can make shit moves is motherfuckers, working class people putting their money into shit. These churches, working class people putting their money, organizations, working class people putting their money. So everything is riding off the backs of working class people. So I don't see why it's wrong that working class people should be treated no different than veterans. To me, no different than motherfuckers. You're sacrificing yourself for the country every day. So and we're making it so you that's on welfare or you that's on this can eat. And I don't think it's nothing wrong with what I don't think these programs that I'm I'm against taking away, you know, the SNAP and all the other programs, but I do, if you're gonna give these programs, why not give a little relief to the people that are working hard to give people the programs?

SPEAKER_02 39:47

That's all I get you're you did all that, you really push it for middle class benefits.

SPEAKER_05 39:52

Absolutely. That that's what it comes down to. Middle class, the people in the middle get fucked more than anybody. That's what I'm saying. Middle class then about to be extinct. You can be broke. Upper class, they get exempt from everything because that's the nature of the game. Broke, middle class, our taxes go to the so the lower class could be more comfortable.

SPEAKER_02 40:12

It's a weird thing where we're like, you know, well, we get taxes taken out, you gotta pay taxes, it's it's up and down, but you know, something gotta change. Something has to change. You may get what that's why you know you start realizing why niggas want little victories, like I get my tax for my kids. Because I, you know, you get fucked over so much. Yeah, it's the one thing I get, a little student loan relief. But yeah, all you get, you kind of realize I'm in this ecosystem, we're in the middle, we're feeding the broke niggas and the rich niggas, and the rich niggas get to kind of take even like some local, like you know, Senate seats, you send it people who owe Senate seats, you start looking at their cribs, you looking at their network, like you in politics, why are you making that much? Then you talk to somebody and you see they cart, three carts full, full of food stamps, and you don't want to hate, but you like, goddamn, like these niggas are eating good. Like, so you're in the middle, just like, oh my god, you know, we want to buy a house, we want to move out. Oh my god, it's rough. It looked crazy, you gotta get blessed. So it is a weird thing, and it's I we we know we can get off this, but yeah, I'm starting to see like the strain. This is probably how I was in like 08. College. It's I could see the strain. I'm like, something's gonna pop soon.

SPEAKER_05 41:16

It gets so bad that niggas in those lower tax brackets will look at you stupid for working.

SPEAKER_00 41:22

Oh, well, for sure.

SPEAKER_05 41:22

Why why would you get married? You finna fuck your benefits up. Well, why would you work that much? I only work a certain amount of hours because I'm gonna fuck my benefits. It hinders us as a people because once you have those benefits up, you don't feel like there's an incentive to work harder or to take that nigga. Why open a business? I'm getting food stamps.

SPEAKER_02 41:41

Nowadays, it's smarter because jobs ain't paying like that. Like I kind of that's what I'm saying. People definitely not about to be working now. It's almost pointless if you ain't really got no skills. You can just get kids. All the laws are for people with no kids. Like you said, even all the big beautiful bill, all the benefits and stuff. If you ain't got kids, you gotta work, you gotta volunteer. So why not just have a bunch of kids and just stay low-key, stay on around? I can live a little life, trap, do hair on the side. Like, and white people get, you know, now we starting to learn about the Jewish people, they've been doing it. There's Jewish communities. That's like give us reparations. It's Jewish communities, they got their own police, they just get the wives go to work, the niggas, they quote unquote study to be rabbis, and they living off group benefits, driving Range Rovers, everything. They just drive. So I'm like, we're they they the way I don't know, but we just need to get into the secrets, how we should be living. Because everything you're saying is right, but we're really falling in a trap of like we're we're supposed to work and hold everything together, and the more you're working, the more you're less invested in other stuff, it's over. And I think everybody kind of realized if you ain't scamming or getting over, you're kind of done. So you know, uh degrees, some people's degrees don't really mean as much. Entry pain getting people, it's true, it's tough getting jobs. We are seeing that robots is clearly about to take people jobs. We just saw, you know, uh robot do an eight-hour shift packing back uh packing up uh packages. It's getting scary out here, and it's gonna it might be like Judge Dre. I ain't gonna lie, because like I said, if people if you're not working, why would you want to work now at all the times? Why would you want to work? Why would you want to try to get better?

SPEAKER_05 43:16

I blame the death of the sitcom. Because when sitcoms was out, every sitcom we watched, especially when it was a black family, they did the back family was living and they had jobs. Martin worked on the radio. Uh uh Huxtable was a doctor, and she was a lawyer. Uh you had uh Dr. Phil, I mean uh Oh, Uncle Phil? Uncle Phil. Shout out Dr. Phil, but Uncle Phil was a lawyer, then he was a judge.

SPEAKER_02 43:45

That'd be a di that'd be a different fresh prince.

SPEAKER_05 43:47

Yeah, that'd be a crazy fresh prince. But like I said, Jamie Fox worked, they worked at a hotel and then he worked at the single spot.

SPEAKER_02 43:54

Honestly, all these careers you have ain't really realistic careers for niggas. You didn't name one realistic career for Like who who uncle owned a hotel in LA?

SPEAKER_05 44:03

That's true. But the I think the big and yeah, the WANs worked at the But who what niggas own a newspaper stand? But what I'm wondering, but I think you're right. It's really unrealistic. But at the same time, I was thinking about like those work at the radio station and make money.

SPEAKER_02 44:19

That would be dope.

SPEAKER_05 44:20

They all had dope jobs for sitcoms. But I feel like the mindset is what matters, is the fact that having a job is okay. Being a regular guy that lives in an apartment or lives in a house or has a family is okay. I feel like we as a culture, we didn't got caught up into this trap where we feel like if we're not living this lavish rapper, basketball player, $100 million lifestyle, that we failed at life. And that's the reason why we scoffed.

SPEAKER_02 44:49

A lot of people do because you know, listen, if you just working for one nigga and got to retire at 85, you did kind of lose a life. So most people are saying, I I don't agree, but I see it. Because we're getting older and I see my parents, and I'm like, damn, niggas getting 60. Back in the day, 65 you was done. They don't really look done, and I don't know if they can be done. Not saying they broke, but I'm just saying, like, it's different than the baby boomer age. I think we're actually finally coming out of the grips of a lot of stereotypes and what's been down. The baby boomers got to live a cush life. Them niggas went to war, came back with a $10,000 house that was paid for, that they sitting on now. All these benefits, got to go to school for free. That shit been dead. It's a whole new world. People is living people, I'm getting English living. People living with their parents until they're like 35, 40. That's the norm.

SPEAKER_05 45:35

That's got it.

SPEAKER_02 45:36

No, but I'm saying it's a different world. People can't even really buy a house like that. So I'm just saying, I kind of do understand both sides. And I'm like, I just like we, the way we came up, work, go to sleep, die. You know, I'm burying grandparents and shit. I'm like, they live, but I'm like, damn, that's kind of it. You know, I my my my reality starts changing. I'm like, you gotta kind of take what you can, and I'm like, you gotta get it how you can. But I just how we grew up, I don't think that's really real life. I think the facade has been breaking. The mirage. When you're in the sand, you see the fake taco bell, there ain't no taco bell there. We gotta get it. We gotta get this water on our own. How we gotta do it, and I kind of understand both sides. I still believe working contributes to society, but I think people are going, I don't want to sit and work in no motherfucking factory for 60 years. My I know I got a guy who worked at Harley, he'll probably die Harley. I don't see work at Miller. I know people, I'm I'm gonna kind of, but I start kind of realizing doing my new job search, I'm like, damn, I really don't have to do certain stuff. I have skills, da da da da. But I've also been, I was always old school since 15 and a half. Remember, we said to get our work permit to work early. Kids ain't doing that now. They trying to trap still kids ain't working, and we work about 525, then it went to 725, and it's been like that since. Which is also again the problem. People like, I don't want to work in no factory. We see trades coming back. Because like I said, it's just different. People like, I'm trying to make some money quick. It's getting spooky. I'm 18. We used to be on the bus with our girl, use our parent car. We can have a little cheap day for $20. Nigga, you can't if you're young, these girls want to live good. So y'all niggas, even now, it's like, wait a minute, I gotta steal a car to take a girl out. I ain't gonna have no bitch on no bus. I gotta have a marriage. Like, it's a different world, and I think we're still kind of we catching it quick. We're not old like our parents, but we're I mean, y'all our parents are still pretty witty, but we're cashing it quick where we're kind of like, damn, y'all niggas need to work, but we also don't realize niggas can be working all day. When does it stop? Some people they get scared, they get scared, so I it's it don't stop, yeah. It don't it don't stop some people like I'd rather stack up quick, crypto, rock, finesse, benefits, stack up like people are just kind of thinking different.

SPEAKER_05 47:39

My thing is, do people think that like Bill Gates and even Elon Musk's bitch ass and all these niggas, Warren Buffett, Jeff Bay, do they think these niggas be kicking it and chilling all day? And uh these niggas is working 15, 16, but 17 hours. A lot of niggas. Yes, they're going home in the yacht. Yeah, I mean, yes, they have a yacht, yes, they got the shit, but they're rarely we're we're gonna see when they enjoy it because it's gonna make the new.

SPEAKER_02 48:04

I'm saying, I think we, I get what you're saying. We're gonna bum that. I'm talking about people, think about how prominent gambling is now. Niggas is sitting all day trying to hit the lick. I'm saying people, they're people trying to get rich fat. If you work a little job, I'm out of trap. Crypto, niggas are bet all the okay, I hit fire racks. I could like I'm talking about the way people think is wired of I gotta get this money now. Back in the day when we grew up, it was like you really ain't gonna get no money until you about 35, 40, 50. Then you start retiring. Now people's like, wait a minute, I ain't trying to be like my daddy. I'm trying to get, and it's young niggas that's getting it, but at the same time, the whole thing is I gotta get money quick. I want to be a streamer. Everybody wanna be a streamer because that's quick money.

SPEAKER_05 48:41

That just wasn't in our and that's what I'm starting to see now. We're at the age, because like you said, mid-30s. Old nigga rant. When you get to the mid-30s, this is what you see. Because in your 20s, everybody's experimenting. I want to be a model, I want to be a rapper, I want to be a podcaster, I want to do the radio. And in your 20s, all that experimental shit sounds great. It sounds wonderful. Because it's like in your 20s, everything feels like it's possible. The world seems like everything's ahead of you. And when you're 25, you tell somebody, yeah, I'm rapping, everybody, they eyes light up because they they look at the potential, like what could be. Oh, I'm a designer. Oh, really? What you do? You know, your eyes light up. So you still got that light. Then you get to, then you get some people who it never works out, never works out, and they never hop on the job train. They just they stay in dream mode, but then they're now they're 36. Now they're 37, they're still rapping, and it's not hitting and they're broke. Now they're 38, they're still talking about something they're doing the radio, but they're only getting 10 people that's gonna listen and they're not making no money. And we're getting to that age now where I'm starting to see a lot of my peers, a lot of people that go, the people that was the cool people in 20, when we were 20s, the people that were the cool kids, because they were the rappers, the man, now they're falling off in the working motherfuckers, the people that's been working, or not just working, but getting experiences. That and ain't always just working. Sometimes getting a talent, like learning how to do something so you always have a job, learning a trade. Like, we're at that point now where you're starting to see like the value of experience and the value of just settling for your dream. The worst thing we told people back in the day is you can be whatever you want to be, and you can be anything. That was a lie. That's true. That we grew up in it, you can be whatever you want to be, and do whatever you want to do.

SPEAKER_02 50:31

That's bullshit. It's tough because it's it no, you're right. It is BS.

unknown 50:34

It is BS.

SPEAKER_05 50:35

It's bullshit. And then they have to ask, they got the audacity to ask you in gaslight. So, what do you want to be? I want to be the president. Well, I wanna be that. Well, you're not gonna be that. You're fat. I'm gonna be a firefighter. Well, you're fat, you dare have asthma already. You can't even get up the ladder, you're not gonna pass the test.

SPEAKER_02 50:52

I'm saying, even to that, a lot of schools don't do like aptitude tests. So they don't even really get to early on. Yeah, even before our time, our parents, great grandma, you was in trade school kind of early. Yeah. I mean, you read stuff, but or kind of early on, six. Okay, I'm gonna be a plumber, I'm gonna start putting it on. So, like I said, trade's coming back, but even just aptitude tests of okay, we gotta kind of put you here early is going. So you put everybody on the same, you know, in the same track. You see, we're talking about St. Lane, everybody don't need to be on the same track. So no, we we lost a lot of recipes. Again, this is a I think all this just comes with age. I've just been thinking about crazy stuff over like the last whatever, and the older we get, birthdays coming up. I'm just like, damn, like life is kind of crazy. You see it for what it is, we're seeing it for what it for what it is. And like I said, I always go back to uh uh a young, like a young dude tweet, like, man, I see a lot of black people when they start turning like in their 30s, they get a little more conservative. He wasn't even talking about like politically, but he was just he starts seeing it. And I'm like, yeah, the more you get and the more you gotta start paying for stuff, and your future is you know, not doing it down, you know. You start getting what they say, like 30 more summers, you start looking at stuff, what's really important, what's going on. And then you do sound a little more conservative for the most part, but you pay, like you said, you start seeing the world for what it is. So it's great navigating with all my friends and family. And I I'm at like, damn, this world is really like doggy dog more than I thought. Like, and I know that, but I'm like, I see why people scam. You know, I always feel like shit. If you ain't even rich, you gotta scam. So yeah, no, it's kind of rough. Like, it looks at the world, but I just hope we don't get on no demolition, man, total recall where it's just like we're all mold people underground. Because I feel like it's getting spooky. I do, I do feel like it's getting spooky. Robots are advancing too fast, like little random little jobs, like niggas standing around. Y'all not panicking? I'd be at McDonald's, like, damn, this your robot's gonna take your job about five years. Shit, you ain't even give me my coffee, right? I'm like, What's scaring me is I don't think people are ready.

SPEAKER_05 52:44

The amount of incels and lonely ass men with influences was scaring me and shit.

SPEAKER_02 52:49

We talk about your boy Nick Fuentes.

SPEAKER_05 52:51

Well, yeah, we got the Nick Fuentes, and we talk about this Chud the Builder guy uh that's been going around. He's in jail now, but just the fact that a guy like a Chud the Builder is somebody who goes around calling black people monkeys in the N-word and all this other shit. And then hard art. Hard art, but then, and he's doing this on live, by the way, where he got all sorts of supporters and all sorts of people that are rooting them on, and then when stuff happens to him, he can raise money in an instant because you got all these hundreds of thousands of white incel, white loser motherfuckers, even some coon ass black loser incel motherfuckers, that a lot of these people just want to be a part of something. You see this with this Trump and MAGA shit where a lot of these niggas is lost, lame, broke, can't fuck, can't cook, can't do shit. And then you go online and you get this little community that's willing to accept you, and all of a sudden now you're a Nazi, or all of a sudden now you're you hate this or you hate that, and really, and everybody's like, we don't know where this came from. Yeah, because that group is the group that adopted you. A lot of, and that's the reason why we don't take a lot of these y'all niggas online that be having these whole personality changes. We don't take y'all seriously because we knew you guys were gonna mold to whatever fucking uh font that was gonna accept you and shit. Your time's roaming today, your aerial tomorrow. We don't take it serious. So a lot of you niggas is moldable play-doh ass niggas, and that's what's scaring me is because when you get a lot of play-doh ass gummy niggas, then you come, you turn around and get motherfuckers that's smart enough to know how to mold you. Right, right. That becomes a dangerous situation. And that's what we got in online. It ain't like it was back in the day when we had the TV, where a lot of that shit was monitored and regulated, even though we were under our own programming, but it was a lot more monitored, a lot more regulated, and we were under a lot of the same similar programming. Whereas now you got a million programs going on at once because of the internet, and you got these internet people that are getting paid off by agencies and paid off, you know. We don't know what's real. Like the internet, a lot of these internet niggas is coming off like we're the real, we're unbiased, but a lot of you niggas is getting paid off too.

SPEAKER_02 54:56

So even with the what's uh the trend builder, dude, do you like you agree with his overall point and freedom of speech point? Like what what what's your reaction of you? I mean, because I I spent a lot of time in Nashville, lived in Nashville a little while, spent a lot of summers in Nashville, considered like a second home for a while. So I know where he's at. You know, he he people and I don't like Nashville take a lot of L because it's like if you went to Memphis, this would happen. Nashville soft. He's basically like on Water Street for tourists. So most of the people we came to contact, black people we used talking to was either working down there or really wasn't down there. Trust me, there's places 10 minutes down the street, he wouldn't even step forward. He know what he's doing. But do you think his message is right though? He's freedom of speech. He's doing like a whole political. Like, do you think he like is he a grifter who's just making a player, or is he really out here doing this Charleston right? Freedom of speech. I because some people say he has a point. He comes up and say, Hey, how's it going? You're a big guy. You say, what about you so he comes up and say, hey, you're a big guy, how's it going? He streaming, he goes, Hey, you know, you you join vacation in Nashville, you go, hey, you know why black people are so tall? Cause they're Negroes. And he laughs at you. What's your and then when I say about big man?

SPEAKER_05 56:00

But see, that's the problem I got with these type of niggas. These motherfuckers, bro. That's what they do. If you watch the NBA, if you watch the NBA, you got the niggas who stand there, and then as soon as the motherfucker comes and touch them, they fall on the ground and get the foul. That's what Chad the Builder, he's a flop, he's a he's a uh Kow Lowry ass nigga, flopper, shame badier ass nigga. As soon as he acts like he's gonna hold defense, but as soon as you do something to him, he's gonna call and he's gonna look at the ref, the police officer, and expect that call. And that's what I But he didn't. Last time he got active, he popped somebody. He didn't call he called the cops after you're supposed to, but he got active in the back. Because he was expecting to get the call, he expected to get the tech and get them out the game afterwards. And then but it didn't, it didn't go out, but it's just like a real life. Motherfucker, look at the ref, ref don't give it to him now. You mad. My problem with you, Chuck, the builder ass niggas, isn't that y'all don't go to the right areas. It isn't. My problem with y'all is not you, but it's the following that y'all have online. It's the incels that you're able to motivate because the more numbers they get, the more dangerous they get. The more copycats they get, the more dangerous they get. And I'm glad black people didn't take the bait on this bitch ass motherfucker. Because he show was trying to bait a lot of people.

SPEAKER_02 57:15

One did and he got popped, but they say he was like.

SPEAKER_05 57:17

It was a scuffle and a pop of side.

SPEAKER_02 57:19

But they were saying he was like PTSD. They say he was a disabled veteran. They put a lot, you gotta read, they put a lot of little, but that's what basically what they said. So they said he said the whole stuff. They said he walked to him, like, no, I don't want to hear all that chipper down stuff, blah, blah, blah. They say he walked away. They said the dude followed him, snuck him. The scuffle ensued. He popped him, tried to be on the phone call. What the cops said, he attacked me, and even after I shot him, he still attacked me. Which I'm like, this probably wasn't crazy high, nigga. Cause they say he said he shot him and still was on his ass. That's probably why he shot again and hit his arm. He probably was panicking. Again, all that Chuck Norris, racist cowboy shit. You don't even know how to shoot. Scared and pussy ass nigga, you got snuck. You wouldn't even put your hands up. That's the that's what that's why he tried. That's why I'm like, he's he's more he's scared than Kyle Renthouse. He's people get on, we on a little tangent, but Kyle Renthouse, he went down there to kill black people. He just so happened to kill some white people, and one of them was a sex offender. So it sounded like he was a hero, but he went down there to kill black people. Chubb is trying to kill a nigga. Because the whole premise, like you said, he hey blah blah blah. Say the hard N word, you get mad. The moment you get mad, he mace, he mace in people, which I it is funny, but streamers been doing that. Mason people, or I'm pulling the strap out. He got the strap on his hips, so niggas like are you uh so niggas walk up to him and he knows if you talk crazy, if you swing, I'ma shoot you. Like, but people start, you know, coming along and it starts getting a little more dangerous.

SPEAKER_05 58:40

Well, let's really break down this bitch ass chat to build a dude, because number one, he's about to get his kids taken away. Kids were already taken away. Oh, kids taken away. Okay, sorry.

SPEAKER_02 58:48

His downfall the reason he started doing this because his downfall happened. It's a griff. His kids was taken away, he was evicted. So he started exactly so he started all this basically because he knew he can get money. Again, any time like they donated a lot of money to him. They like that stuff. Even we see him when he actually started getting in trouble, the money starts coming in. But his whole thing was he raised money, hey, they're gonna take my kids away. He made 70 racks in like two days. This is a this is his grift. His whole grift is I might have to pop a nigga, but I know I can get my Kyle Rittenhouse money. A lady at a lady at Auntie Ann's called an African family the hard R, she got kicked out, but she made 60 racks. So that's a grift. But again, I just don't know why they only do it with black people. They don't do it with Jewish people, they don't do it with Hispanics, elite, they only do it with black people. Now he has his imitators coming up.

SPEAKER_05 59:37

Because you know when you do it with black people, you're gonna get, yes, you're gonna get backlash because you're gonna have a lot of people, as you see with Chud the Builder getting a lot of backlash, but you're gonna get equally as much people that feel like it's justified because we got the most enemies, we got the most justice. Whereas when you do it against the Jewish community or something, all they're gonna do is call you anti-semit Semite. They're not finna, you're not gonna get the same.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:00

Well, they'll they'll shut you down. Well, they'll really only shut down black people, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:03

They'll shut you down, but you're not gonna get the same amount as well. Now it's a little different because of what's going on with Israel. So they're getting a little bit more hate now. But there was a point where they didn't, but even like with Asians, like you're not gonna get a bunch of motherfuckers that hate Asians enough to where if you start doing certain shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:21

Can I can I I'm gonna say that you're wrong because they made the they made the anti-Asian hate bill after the coronavirus. But they but they made it seem like black people was just beating up Asians. That that's even with some of these Jewish hate laws, they point out, oh, this random Hasidic Jew in New York got beat up by some random people. From meanwhile, the whole nigga's African and from the Bahamas, but they from New York. Bro, they get laws made and they make it seem like black people just harassing all these people. That's why I'm like, I really'm like, damn, we really don't got no allies. Do we got any allies?

SPEAKER_05 1:00:48

We don't, but um, maybe Chuck the Builder might help us get one pass now because he might, if if if this shit goes to trial, or let's say if this shit goes and gets bigger, because he's in jail now. Nick Fuentes situation.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:59

Nick Fuentes is is our ally in this. That's it's crazy. Even his racist people, like ah, he's going too far. Black people, like you can't be walking around calling black people niggers. But you know, they they'll say that though. And I'm like, you wanted to say it. Like, you guys are racist.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:12

They do it. I but Chuad the Builder might be the the step for us getting that law because we we he might, if not him, he might ignite the next guy who's gonna do something crazy, and then they're gonna have to pass a law because that's what happened with the Asians is during the coronavirus, some fucked up shit happened, and then all it takes is one crazy event that goes viral or go or hits the newsline, and all of a sudden they pass a bill to save face. So we'll see what happens. I hope he's dropping the soap somewhere, and I hope the booty demons is on him. Fuck him. I don't think he gets no type of I don't want him to get no type of cape. Uh fuck also fuck uh fuck Charlton White too. Motherfucker was caping for him. Fuck anybody caping for this dude to go with what you was talking about earlier, Colin, the whole freedom of speech. I don't why is it always racism and shit that went like how those have become the staples of freedom of speech? Like the only time I hear niggas cape for freedom of speech now is when they want to say some racist shit now. That's it. I can't understand the nigga about freedom of speech. What the nigga? Like, but any other time we don't want to talk about the shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:15

Everybody says nigga. Like this shit. I'll be hearing different videos. It'd be some white people fighting new talk. I'm like, bro. I'm like, they really tried to make they that's the they soften the word up so hard I don't mean nothing. Now he's saying hard R. So they tried to make the separation. Well, I can say that because I ain't I'm bruised, I ain't saying it to you. And I was slapping people, like, bro, you like I'm not hearing that. So they already kind of disabled the word. It's in rap. So it's hard for us, and you know, niggas be because to this day, I don't care if you're saying this, but you saying this, I'm standing on all of it.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:46

But if they say if you hear if you hear the white person say the nigga with the just nigga, or he with his black friends, he say nigga, are you checking? Like is the reaction different than the hard art?

SPEAKER_02 1:02:56

No, it did. I've been in that. When they with their people, it's kind of rough because you gonna have to fight a bunch of black people for it. If they but the black, you gotta know your past is in the hood, but they let white people so you really it's you then it's another issue with it. But just on your own, I'm I gotta I gotta check you every single time. I have to, I don't and I have. I've shut down parties. Hey, whoa whoa, stop with all this nigga stuff. Turn the music off. Hey, I'm making an announcement, we're done with this. I got like you have to, you gonna seem crazy, but at a certain point, y'all not saying kike spic, none of that other stuff. Y'all so respect I'm saying bleep it all out. I don't want to be monetized, y'all not saying that. Make y'all words cool. We all they all scared to say that, but y'all get to say the hard R. Wet back. Tynaman, bruh. Y'all you can't say fag. You can't say nothing, but you can say nigga niggas will say the hard R. You gotta report them. Ah, they didn't say anything wrong. The only time somebody said, I'm trying to burn some hard R, it's like I got to report the nigga that work anything else, we didn't say anything wrong. I'm like, damn, you could really say the hard R on Twitter now. You don't even got people don't even know you don't gotta edit it. So they're saying it's open seasonal niggas. Fuck your feelings, fuck how y'all feel. So I I stand on that. I don't be around a lot on raw people like that. So, no, it's just tough. I think it's time. That's what I'm saying. Black people, this is if anything, black people, we just gotta get together.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:14

Because we have no, we have no allies. Before we get off, I just thought about something I didn't put on the board. So then, with that being said, what we were just talking about, how do you feel about the roast? Because with Kevin Hart, a lot of people have been going in on him. And for those of you guys who did not see the roast, there was a lot of racial jokes. There was a joke on George Floyd, there was a joke uh on like it was a lot of racist jokes. And it I think Shane Gillis even at one point said they told me to be racist. How do y'all feel about that? Because a lot of people are saying we stood up for our freedom of speech. Same shit Chud the Builder be saying, freedom of speech. My whole thing, once again, is why is freedom of speech always a cold word for I want to talk racist with no consequence? But how do you feel about the roast?

SPEAKER_02 1:05:04

I think the roast was good. It was a nice Mother Day surprise. I came back, we went to go see Michael, my mom. We went out to eat, and I came and the roast was on. I was smacked, so it was long. The Cheryl Underwood dead husband jokes hurt. Shane Gillis, I don't remember him saying that, but he did say he's a couple jokes. I could tell you, that's why I do fuck with Shane Gillis. He was like, Yeah, we we talked about this. You know, he felt bad, but like Tony He cliff, you know, he's a racist prick. That he had the George Ford joke. He's kind of trash from Kill Tony. Like, it was it was okay. I I mean I think that's a rose was a whole other thing. You're supposed to do kind of hacky jokes, you know. Even the rock was doing put his dad. It was good, it was good for what it was. I don't really care about the racist stuff as much. I just I I just felt like a couple of the the Cheryl dad husband jokes because she after all said they stung. So I guess Shane Gailey said they he got permission from. But like that happened four more times, and it's gonna happen in that space. And you know, she the only black woman up there, really. So they're talking about gum. She always gets roasted like it's just easy, it's gonna be cringe. That's what roasts are. But my problem is everybody has trigger words but one group, and they get to make all the free speech rules. That's kind of what you're saying. There's no word, there's no word that hurts white Americans or white people, period. So they get to say all these words, and it's just humor and it's freedom of speech, but they don't have nothing. Even if you do racist jokes, you can oh white people or they they can't, they have no rhythm, or my mom is making my uncle. That shit is trash. They don't got nothing that cut deep, but every other group has stuff that cut deep. So the one group that's getting to sit in there and dictate dictating who get to talk, who get to feel bad, who need to get over it, y'all don't got nothing that sting. But and for me, probably and that kind of is my biggest gripe with everything because everybody else, but again, black people, we just get over it. Yeah, get over it. Slavery been over. It ain't about slavery. I don't wear you even talking too. I don't even like wiggers. Yeah, I don't even like niggas with too much twang. Internet, everybody talking cool, like niggas, and but hate niggas. Even Chuck the Builder, uh, he's she's chopped. Nigga, that's black slang. You hate black people so much you calling a girl chopped because she wants she chopped. I'm like, y'all hate black people, but everything y'all do is really swag y'all like black people. Jake Paul wants to do blackface, but you gotta grill in with a chain. I'm like, I'm just saying, y'all, that's corny. It is corny, and we gotta step up on that. Everybody, every other race gets to step stand on their shit. It's not called corny. They be a little woke. White people, Lil Nas X sweet ass wanna make a country song, they made a fit over it. But I was trying to make a fit over Shabuzi taking Jay Quan shit. Why Jayquan don't get no credit? Well, this is a great song, and he gets to suck nick, and I'm like, it's just crazy. Black people, we gotta step up, man. I'm sorry, we gotta start supporting our shit. We gotta start going hard. Even me, I'm gonna start watching the dumb nigga shows. I'm gonna go, I never watched uh power, I'm gonna go back and watch power. I gotta support black people's shit. Cause I'm like, I just, even if it's trash, because I'm like, I get to hate the air, we gotta kinda stay back in the dormant. I be watching on leash, I love TV. I'm like, where the niggas at in these shows? I'm tired of watching white people's shit. I I really do. Like, and I love good cinema, even a good movie. Like, where the niggas at?

SPEAKER_05 1:08:04

We gotta go back to pro niggas shit. For that roast, though, I just didn't like the fact that right now, I just don't feel like we in a time right now where I can accept y'all getting up there joking about George Floyd and joking about the book. But that was unnecessary.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:18

See, the thing is they cut other jokes out, but they kept that in. What'd he have to do with the roast?

SPEAKER_05 1:08:22

Well, that and that's what I'm saying. Like, roast, first off, roast the people in the building. That's where it's fair game to me. If you there, fair game. Uh, George Floyd and his family shouldn't have shit to do with that. That once you there's a difference between we're at it, we're at, we're here roasting each other and everything is off is off limits. When you joke about George Floyd, you're joking again the whole black delegation now. You're joking all of us. We ain't a part of the roast. We George Floyd family didn't ask to be a part of no roast. Uh nobody involved with that that that had to endure that was involved with the roast. So I don't respect that at all. At the same time, you're taking our rights, you're taking our right to vote, you're fucking up with these gerrymandering shit. It's just too much. We got a president that's going around calling black reporters, bitch. We the racial dynamic right now in the country is in no position where I can be up here with you white motherfuckers joking and shit and ha ha ha ha and about George Floyd. I'm not that comfortable with you niggas right now. I'm not, we're not in a place right there, right now. And I'm not trying to say we should continue to divide or whatever, but there's a lot we need to work on before I can be up here and watch you and Kevin Hart, y'all laugh with these white motherfuckers, and I feel comfortable about it. So for those of you that are really deep with it. But I'm just saying, for the so no, and and I'm look, for those of you guys who want to enjoy the roast and y'all take is more so It was a good roast, though. It was a good, I'm not, and I like, and I don't want to condemn, I'm not gonna condemn people who look at this as entertainment because I don't expect everybody to be as extreme on this as well.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:55

You made me feel bad for liking it now.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:57

No, I don't think everybody fuck Kevin Harper roasts. I don't expect everybody to be extremely.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:02

They genuinely squashed. I watched it. I was drunk as a motherfucker. I watched the whole thing, I didn't realize it was three hours. He really squashed beef with Cat Williams. That was a good moment. I do like that. I kept like that. I kept saying, like, damn, I'm happy. My girl's looking like, why you give a fuck about that? Real nigga shit right there. I actually and it was a real surprise that he came out. He didn't know. He had the best set, of course, and I really like how they squashed the shit. I liked it. So that was the one positive out of it. There was some good sets, but that really genuinely made me. And I'm I'm kind of off Cat Williams, but I did like that they could put that aside.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:32

And that's how black men should also settle their differences, especially.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:35

Also, can I ask you one thing? Do you consider The Rock black?

SPEAKER_05 1:10:39

He's as black as Russell Wilson.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:41

Russell Williams is black in The Rock. Russell Wilson is black. Yeah, I mean. I love The Rock, but I'm like, sometimes I don't really consider him a nigga.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:48

He's Islander nigga to me.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:50

He's like Samoan, half black. So yeah, he's black. I don't I don't he don't really do nigga. He don't really do that.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:57

He's like Barack Obama black.

unknown 1:10:59

Nah.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:00

Barack Obama came out to smile green before. I don't even think the rock say nigga. Ah, Brock might say nigga.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:07

I couldn't.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:08

I was shocked when I heard Giannis say nigga. I was like, that shit still. I don't like it. Nigga. I don't think he should be saying, but that's another conversation. Wait, Giannis can't say nigga?

SPEAKER_05 1:11:16

Nah, I'm good on that. You're Greek in Nigerian, stay in your lane. I just said love you, Giannis, but uh. If it was Nigerian freak, then we could go there. But Greek freak, nah, they don't even like niggas in Greece. So they even like him. Let's just keep it a hundo. Or if we're gonna keep it that way. But no, fuck try to builder.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:37

And also his brother got a coat out. His brother's sliding. I'm over here. Coasters, I think.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:41

Oh, we got drop. Make sure, shout out to Apple Podcast, Spotify. We back in the motherfucker, man. Shout out to Instagram. And like I said, man, we ain't in no position to sit up here and play and joke with you motherfuckers. So next time y'all feel comfortable saying nigga around some people, make sure you got the right ones. Because I would hate to see one of you motherfuckers get the shit smacked out of you. Uh have a good one. And as always, Iceman is in rotation.