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70 Weeks: Bringing in Everlasting Righteousness (PART 1 of 4) - LIVE!
Daniel 9:24-25 contains one of Scripture's most profound prophecies, detailing "seventy weeks" determined for Israel during which six specific outcomes would be accomplished. But when exactly were these prophecies fulfilled, and what does that mean for our understanding of end times?
This deep dive into Daniel's seventieth week confronts the pivotal question: Did Christ fulfill these prophecies at His first coming, or do they await future fulfillment? Our exploration reveals how your answer fundamentally shapes your entire eschatological framework, potentially eliminating the necessity for a future seven-year tribulation period so commonly taught in popular theology.
We focus particularly on the remarkable concept of "everlasting righteousness" and how it connects to the theological principle of imputation. Like an accounting transaction, Christ's perfect righteousness is credited to our account while our sin debt is placed on Him. This divine ledger shows our debt as "paid in full" – a transaction that's complete, irreversible, and eternal.
This understanding directly challenges theological positions suggesting salvation can be lost. If Christ has imputed "everlasting righteousness" to believers, how could that righteousness cease to be everlasting? Some participants wrestle with this concept, wondering if continued faithfulness is required to maintain this righteousness, while others argue that such conditions would undermine the very meaning of "everlasting."
Whether you're wrestling with questions about eternal security, curious about biblical prophecy, or seeking a deeper understanding of Christ's finished work, this conversation provides thought-provoking perspectives on how we receive and retain the righteousness Christ secured for us.
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9, verse 24 and 25. It says 70 weeks are determined for your people and for your holy city to finish the transgression, to make an end of sins, to make reconciliation for iniquity, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to make and to anoint the most holy. Now we won't get outside of this verse tonight, but I'm going to go ahead and read verse 25 as well, which says Know, therefore, and understand that from the going forth of the command to restore and build Jerusalem until Messiah the Prince, there shall be 69 weeks, and 62 weeks the street will be built again, shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times, and it goes on. So last couple of days ago I got through finishing the transgression, making an end to sins and making reconciliation for iniquity, and it seems that for the most part, it seems that for the most part, we all sort of landed on the same page and but, but I have to say, sometimes I wonder, because you can read something, study something, go over things together, come to a conclusion without realizing the ramifications of those conclusions. Realizing the ramifications of those conclusions, and in this case the point that I was making is that these elements that are listed in Daniel 9, 24 are things that are to be fulfilled during Daniel's 70 weeks Finish the transgression, making an end of sins, making reconciliation for iniquity, bringing in everlasting righteousness, sealing up vision and prophecy and anointing the most holy. And the premise that I established which I believe I established firmly, was that, whether people agree or not, the point is that these six items, they stand or fall together, which means that they are all fulfilled at the same time. And if they are all fulfilled at the same time, we have to conclude when, or come to an agreement as to when, these were fulfilled.
Speaker 1:Now, I believe, and I state the case up front, I believe that these were all fulfilled with the first coming of the Lord Jesus Christ, all fulfilled Now. If you don't believe they are fulfilled, then you embrace one of these dispensational views which involves the inclusion of a seven-year tribulation. Seven-year tribulation Somewhere in your scheme you're either post-tribulationist, pre-tribulation, or historical pre-mill. All of those perspectives have their root and ground in dispensational eschatology, all of those three. I don't hold or see any room in the scriptures for any of those three, because it would mean admitting to a tribulation period that finds its birth in the chapter we're reading right now. So my point is this if these things are true and we all believe that they are true, but if they are fulfilled already already, and if they are all fulfilled at the coming of christ, then that means one of the significant and key ramifications that we have to close in on is whether or not there is actually a tribulation period which, if these things have happened at the first coming of christ, there can't be a seven-year tribulation period. I don't care if it's historical, pre-millennial or post-mill. So this is what I'm laying out, and I realize that there may be people listening and there may be people who are here who may have varying degrees of opinion on this, but the whole idea is, if you have a different perspective, then it won't hurt to hear it out and see if there's something that can be gleaned from it.
Speaker 1:Now'm going to deal with the next point. Last week we dealt our last week, two days ago. We dealt with three of these aspects finish the transgression, making an end of sins and making reconciliation for iniquity, and we went through each one of these and we were able to show through the scriptures, that these things all have all been fulfilled. Now, does anybody believe that? Finishing the transgression, making it into sins and making reconciliation. Does anybody believe that these? These have not been fulfilled yet Anybody, brian.
Speaker 2:They've already been fulfilled.
Speaker 1:What about you, Greg? How do you feel about it?
Speaker 3:Oh, same way I did the other day.
Speaker 1:Well, one reason I'm asking is for the benefit of everybody else who might be listening.
Speaker 3:Gotcha.
Speaker 1:So it's good to sort of lay it out there. Jerry, what about you? Fulfilled or left to be fulfilled?
Speaker 4:Fulfilled.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, brother and Lisa. What do you think?
Speaker 4:Fulfilled.
Speaker 1:All right. So, that being said, we go to the next point. Now let me ask one more question, let me ask, let me ask, let me ask you this, Greg, I'm going to ask you this question. I made the case, I made the statement that these elements are all together. Now is there? So? In other words, what I'm saying is that, if they are fulfilled, they were all fulfilled at the same time. Or what I want to ask you is is there a possibility that some of these things were fulfilled and other parts are not of these six items? What do you think?
Speaker 3:Well, I mean they weren't all like exactly simultaneous. You know what I mean. They weren't all like exactly simultaneous. You know what I mean. I mean there was the incarnation, then there was 33 years or so, and then there was the cross and then there was the resurrection. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:But I agree with you that like, yeah, during the first coming, right the first advent, but I do leave, even though, like I'm not a dispensationalist, I do leave room for some kind of already not yet like dual fulfillment kind of thing where, even though you know, I believe you know the tribulation would have been, you know, the destruction of Jerusalem, but I, I do leave room for, like you know, a period of great distress, you know, right before the second coming. You know something like that, but nothing in the sense that, oh, you know we're going to go, you know going to go back to, you know, the mosaic law and there's going to be sacrifices in a temple and stuff like that. I mean, who knows, you know, and they may rebuild a temple and put sacrifices in them, but that's going to be an abomination if they do it. You know what I mean. So does that make sense?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it does. Actually, I agree with you, and here's what I'll tell you, because we know about what we refer to as the great apostasy, or the great falling away, and that takes place in this time frame where it says that Satan will be loose for a little season, and so I believe that you're right, I believe that you can't. You have to leave room, because he will be wreaking havoc in a way that he hasn't done since prior to the coming of Christ. Now, I'm of the opinion that we are in that period right now. I do believe that the biblical references that are made to apostasy pending or coming, I believe it's here. I believe that, that being the case, that there is nothing that prohibits or that requires an additional fulfillment prior to Christ coming back, or that requires an additional fulfillment prior to Christ coming back, and so, in that regard, I agree with you.
Speaker 1:I do agree that there is some possibility of some great problems. However, that's also nothing unlike. We have already been told by our Lord that we will always be going through troublous times, always. Already been told by our Lord that we will always be going through troublous times, always. So there's no period in the Christian era where it will not be fraught in varying degrees and in varying degrees of intensity when it comes to tribulation, affliction and persecution. So, if that makes sense, my whole thing is that tribulation is not isolated to a seven year period, which is really a three and a half year period If you believe what they tell you, the dispensationalist.
Speaker 1:But I believe that tribulation has been going on ever since the ascension of our Lord, ever since, and we'll continue until he, until he, comes. So, that being said, now I want to make the case for bringing in everlasting righteousness. So, bringing in everlasting righteousness, would anybody see? Would anybody make an argument as to whether or not the, the righteousness that is talked about, that is being everlasting in Daniel 9.24. Is there anybody here who would say that everlasting righteousness has not been wrought, that has not been brought yet?
Speaker 4:Nope.
Speaker 1:Preacher.
Speaker 5:Dan, what do you think? So I think I've been listening to you now for a little bit here. Yes, everlasting righteousness has already occurred. How so Well, through Jesus rising from the dead. Bottom line. Make it real simple Jesus rose from the dead. He fulfilled everything other than some would say, the rapture, but that's. You know, there's a lot of, there's a lot of dogma on that, and so one could say that everlasting righteousness from God down has been fulfilled, but from us up, we are a far cry from fulfilling that.
Speaker 1:Can you elaborate on that? So what do you mean? God down and God up?
Speaker 5:Well, the promises that God made, sending his son and Jesus fulfilling the prophecies, which are innumerable, and him rising from the dead, is the God down side. You know, you've got a coin. Every coin has two sides. Right, that would be the heads, I guess. All right, god down. You know whether God expected us to live up to that? I don't think so. But from the human side up, to live up to the righteousness that God set forth for us to observe and to act out, and upon we fall short.
Speaker 1:Okay, so for Daniel's prophecy when it says that part of his fulfillment will be bringing in, to bring in everlasting righteousness. So you will say that that has been accomplished.
Speaker 5:Oh yeah, yeah, it's just that we can't, we, we don't believe it.
Speaker 1:OK, you lose me just when I think I'm done. What do you mean? We don't believe it.
Speaker 5:OK, all right, we don't believe it, by the very actions that we take.
Speaker 1:So when we say righteousness, what are we talking about? So let me ask you this question when you say that you believe that Christ, at his first coming, brought in everlasting righteousness, what are you saying? Is that? What is the quality of that? At his first coming brought in everlasting righteousness.
Speaker 5:Right, what are you saying is that? What is the quality of that? What is it? I put it in one word. Well, two words, okay.
Speaker 1:Perfected love, perfected. Say that again. Perfected love, perfected, love, yes, all right.
Speaker 5:Now I'll tell you something that sounds beautiful. Yeah, I just don't know what that means. Okay, it's pretty deep. And number one it's deep because he brought in. You would say Jesus is perfect, right.
Speaker 1:Right, but hold on, hold, on, hold on, before we get on a rabbit hole, because you said it's deep, so that's to just rabbit hole. Now, before we get on a rabbit hole because you said it's deep. So that's to just rabbit hole. Now, actually it's a lot shallower than that, but it could be deep depending on how you want to think about it. But when we talk about righteousness everlasting righteousness, from who to whom and when, so let's start with from whom God and Jesus All right start with.
Speaker 5:from whom god and jesus all right. Well, jesus as uh, jesus as the uh, the, the, the, the son of god right, okay, I got that all right now, to whom?
Speaker 1:to to whom? You and me?
Speaker 5:us believers. Yes, men, when did this happen? Uh it it. You're saying. What does it mean? What does it mean? What does it mean? What does it mean? What does it happen? It, it, it. You already said it, I'm just for lack of to make it short at his resurrection All right Now.
Speaker 1:so now let's talk about how. So when Christ resurrected? How? How do we? How did we benefit? How did we acquire the righteousness by the resurrection of Jesus Christ? How was it acquired by us?
Speaker 5:Okay, because it showed us once and for all.
Speaker 1:Not what it showed us. How was it applied? Well, I mean it applied through showing us that everything that he said was true, no, but what I'm asking is this, and everybody else, I'm going to get to it, but I want to nail this part of it because— I want to hear what somebody else has to say but I want to.
Speaker 1:I want to hear are you thinking? Because there may be other people that are listening to think like you do. So I want to deal with that. So what I'm saying is we as believers, as you acknowledge we as believers, we gain the righteousness of christ right. What I'm asking is what is the righteousness of Christ Right? What I'm asking is what is the process of that application, us getting everlasting righteousness?
Speaker 5:Okay, an outward acceptance that Jesus is your Savior.
Speaker 1:All right. So let me ask, jerry, jerry, what is the process, what's involved with us getting the righteousness of Christ?
Speaker 2:According to what I understand about the gospel of Jesus Christ, because of his sacrifice we become his righteousness Right. But it must be everlasting righteousness.
Speaker 1:Right. So here's the thing, because this is the reason why I worked out this particular discussion to sit around just this one one, because I know it's going to take a while, but I want to get to the heart of the matter. What it like? What did christ have to do to secure righteousness for us, greg? What did christ have to do to to acquire righteousness for us?
Speaker 3:He had to live a life of perfect obedience as a man. So that's part of the purpose of the incarnation, that as the last Adam, as our new federal head, he lived a life of perfect obedience to the Father and then culminating with the offering of that life on behalf of his people. And so it's his accomplished righteousness through the sinless life that he lived. And then he was raised for our justification, right. And so, because of what he secured for his elect on the cross, it's a certainty that it will be applied to his elect by, you know, by the holy spirit, through regeneration and faith, so that, I mean, we could go through the whole, you know, orto salutis, if you want, but I mean no, I want to keep it simple, but there is one word that I'm looking for that has escaped us.
Speaker 1:There's one word that is particularly essential in understanding how we obtain the righteousness of Christ.
Speaker 3:Imputation.
Speaker 1:No, that's it, that's what I'm looking for. Imputation, imputation, define it. Oh, okay, that's what I'm looking for Imputation.
Speaker 5:Imputation Define it please for me.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I don't know that one.
Speaker 1:So imputation, and the word is in the scriptures. So imputation is an accounting term. It's an accounting term back in the day, back in that day. So imputation means that there's a general ledger, an accounting ledger, you have a debt to be paid, you have a debt to be paid and the debt is the penal ramifications of sinning against the thrice. Holy God. So Christ, in his act of obedience, dies on the cross, raised from the dead, and, as a result, he imputes his righteousness to our part of the ledger where we had debt, and he removed the debt because he paid it for us.
Speaker 4:Amen.
Speaker 1:Imputation is a fiscal term, an accounting term, which means that, simply this we had a debt, christ had the wherewithal to pay it and when he resurrected, he paid it. So now, when we look at that ledger that divine ledger, it shows us paid in full. Does anybody disagree? Nope, divine ledger, it shows us paid in full. Does anybody?
Speaker 2:disagree. Nope, no, brother, you did a great job of explaining that, and what's really what we really need to focus on is he just explained that. Did we, as the person that had the debt, did we play any part whatsoever of having that righteousness imputed?
Speaker 4:to us.
Speaker 7:No, nope, devil's advocate.
Speaker 1:Go ahead, sanji, go ahead, no I was just saying that was a groan.
Speaker 7:What was that? I was just a groaning. Sorry my connection. Oh, you were groaning. Okay, I'm sorry I didn't catch. Those are growing. What was that? I was just agreeing.
Speaker 1:Sorry, my connection. Oh, you were agreeing. Okay, I'm sorry I didn't catch it at first. No, yeah, so that's the whole idea. So imputation is probably we would all say this about most of the things that we read in the Bible, but imputation is one of the greatest words to understand in the word of God, for the very reasons that Brian brought up. Imputation is the fact that the debt that we have that we owe God, christ has paid and satisfied. Cut it off.
Speaker 5:See, I don't think I could use that in a sermon because that would add another four to five minutes onto my timeline, and Lutherans don't allow you to go over 10 minutes in a sermon, because that would add another four to five minutes onto my timeline, and lutherans don't allow you to go over 10 minutes I'm glad you could be here to join with us, whatever, but so far I like where we're going with this.
Speaker 1:So so now we're dealing with, um uh, everlasting righteousness. So we know what the righteousness is. Christ paid the debt and, like Brian said, like brother Brian said, when he paid the debt, we had nothing to do with it. Nobody can say, well, my debt was X amount, but I came up with 2% of it and Jesus came up with the other 98%. Whoa, we had nothing, amen, we had nothing.
Speaker 5:Can I give you an example?
Speaker 7:Yes.
Speaker 5:Okay, you've heard the phrase pay it back Right. Okay, that is very similar to what you're talking about. You paid that other person behind you in the in the car line in McDonald's Right Now. The thing about that is it's kind of tricky because if you tell that's a, that's a righteous works. If you, if you say you want to use ordinary words, if you tell somebody you did it, you just made it into a works righteous and by god, sending his son and not, and he told people he was going to do it, but he didn't tell people that he did it until it had already happened, which makes it all righteous works right amen, we'll just talk.
Speaker 7:I was talking about that last time, on a different live. Actually, it said exactly that. I was like, if you go preaching or boasting about it, good day you're done. God just throws it out the window. It's like, yeah, that didn't happen.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 6:Absolutely. You guys mind if I jump in here. Yeah, go ahead, esco. Good to have you, brother, god. God bless you all. This reminds me of a story Of a man who went to the grocery store and he paid for the woman's food Behind her and she came up to the front and she couldn't believe that the guy paid for her food. You see, that's our problem. God imputes his righteousness to us, but it's hard on us to believe it, and a lot of times it's hard for people to believe it.
Speaker 1:But see, let me ask you this question, Esco, when it comes to salvation, because, as you know and as all of us know, we can come up with all the analogies that we can, that kind of lay this out, but we also know that every analogy falls apart, just like every parable does, when it comes to what's actually happening, when it comes to our salvation, right?
Speaker 1:So, when God pays the debt, whether that person believes that he paid the debt or not doesn't matter. Mm-hmm, because he paid it, mm-hmm. That means that that means that the penalty that God owes, those owes us who have rejected his son and rejected his saving gospel, who remain in their state of condemnation, those people who who rejected him, they, first of all, they have no interest in this, in the righteousness of God. But what I'm saying is this when, when god pays, when your debt is paid the father, there is no scenario, no scenario where the father comes back and says I'm still going to charge you for that debt. Amen, right, you follow, you see what I'm saying, absolutely. But you have a, you have a flock amongst the flock, who believe that a christian can lose their salvation. Yep, if you understand imputation, the implication would be that somehow the debt has resurfaced.
Speaker 1:Yep yep does anybody disagree with that so?
Speaker 6:far, impossible, impossible and it's done that's right.
Speaker 1:So when he, when he pays, god doesn't come back and say well, I'm keeping an eye on you because I might, I might still exact, I might still exact what the debt you know, based on the debt that you owe me, even though my son has paid it. But here's my question If we look at the finished work of Christ and I'm going to ask Jerry this If we look at the finished work of Christ, jerry, the finished work, which includes obtaining and imputing Righteousness to our account, how does that make us get an understanding In terms of, in terms of the eternity of our salvation?
Speaker 2:And I'm asking Jerry, you know why, yeah, I do, but I need you to kind of rephrase that question All right.
Speaker 1:So let me, let me, let me ask, let me ask it this way. Well, I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what I'm going to do. I'm gonna do it this way, I'll do it this way. It says here that the Messiah would bring in everlasting righteousness. So what I want to ask you, jerry, is what does everlasting mean in this context? Everlasting righteousness?
Speaker 2:it means no ending, depending on the context and where it's used, but here it means no ending right.
Speaker 1:So you, but, but you believe you would say that if, if we, if we have put our trust, our faith and trust in the lord jesus christ in his finished work, which involves giving us righteousness, that imputed to our account. Yes, all right. So if he imputed everlasting righteousness, righteousness to us, is there any scenario where everlasting is not everlasting?
Speaker 2:Well, I know I think a lot different from a lot of this panel, but I think that God commands diligence and he commands us to abide in and continue in and run the race, work out our own soul salvation.
Speaker 1:So what I'm trying to say is everything I've learned myself about God is that when he does his work, he expects us to do our part. But what I'm asking you to is this how do you explain everlasting righteousness?
Speaker 2:Everlasting, Okay, so everlasting righteousness to me, that's a when I hear Jesus talk about the church and marriage to me. When I, when I married Christ, it was for everlasting righteousness.
Speaker 1:Right, but. But. So my next question is this then what scenario, what scenario can you bring up? Bring?
Speaker 2:up. My scenario would be this, because I think I know what you're looking for. My scenario would be.
Speaker 1:I want to, I don't want, don't not, not what I'm looking for. I want to know what you really think, because I respect your perspective.
Speaker 2:Well, I make that statement based on our past conversations, right? So I'm thinking of the. I'm looking at the marital relationship between God and Israel. And God told Israel all the blessings, which were everlasting, that he was giving them. But he also then he turned around and told him if you don't honor me with keeping my commandments, then I'm not going to honor you.
Speaker 1:So so what, so what he wait, wait to me.
Speaker 2:to me now. My way of thinking is just that simple. Paul said I don't lay hold of my crown until I have finished my race. I just believe you must finish the race Right In the Bible it talks about people who have fallen away and shipwrecked their faith and things of that nature.
Speaker 1:I get that, I get that, but I want to stick to the text, though, because I know where you're going. I don't want to have you go down some area where you don't want to go tonight. I know where you're going. I don't want to have you go down some area where you don't want to go tonight, but what I'm, what I'm trying to say, is what I'm asking is this, then, does it make sense? Or what's this with everlasting here? So, is this everlasting here? Is it conditional?
Speaker 2:No, I personally think it is conditional.
Speaker 1:All right, that's what I want to get at. That's what I want to get at. All right. So the everlasting is conditional. Based upon what?
Speaker 2:Based upon you being. I read in Revelations where Jesus was speaking to one of the churches I think it was Sardis, I'm not sure which one. I'm told to be faithful unto death and I will give you a crown. All right, so I just believe that that's what God is requiring that we be faithful like he was faithful. Jesus was our example of faithfulness. He endured to the end. He expects us to endure to the end.
Speaker 1:Well, I think that because Jesus endured to the end, he secured our ability to endure to the end.
Speaker 2:what is? What is a uh, what is a lukewarm?
Speaker 1:well, I, I get, I get that part, but what I'm saying is what I'm under. What I'm trying to say is this here's what I'm trying to get at. I don't believe that, that the word of god wastes words. So, and what I'm saying is, everlasting has to mean something. And and if everlasting is conditional, how is it everlasting? Because to me it's guaranteed. I'm confused. What's guaranteed?
Speaker 2:The everlasting reward that he brought. But you just said it was conditional. Yes, yes, it's guaranteed. If you, I did framework, I gave the framework. I hear you, but it's guaranteed. If you, I did framework, I gave the framework.
Speaker 1:I hear you, but it's guaranteed. If yes, all right, all right.
Speaker 2:That's my, that's my belief.
Speaker 1:I got to get, I got to hear it. I just want to give you a chance to speak on that. Brian, go ahead, brian go ahead, brian, go ahead.
Speaker 2:Brian go ahead. Okay, I see why Brother Johnson is really trying to get to this point, because it's a major point the everlasting. It's done. Y'all Look it's over. When he died on that cross his righteousness. We don't have any righteousness on our own. I understand what Brother Big Gravy is saying, and we all think like that sometimes. Don't have any righteousness on our own. I understand what Brother Big Gravy is saying. We all think like that sometimes, but we are playing zero anything when it comes to our righteousness and how God sees us. He doesn't see us. If I commit a sin a minute from now and I die and I go to heaven, he's not looking at that sin. He's looking at Christ's righteousness, that he fulfilled every bit of the law.
Speaker 2:So, what I do and don't do plays no part. Now I know people are going to say well, okay, what about the scripture saying don't commit adultery, don't do this, don't do that, amen, hallelujah. This is the difference between God's sovereignty and man's responsibility, right?
Speaker 5:Can I respond to that? Yes, can I ask a question real quick?
Speaker 2:Hold on.
Speaker 1:Hold on one second. Hold on one second, jerry Preacher Dan, go ahead, ask your question.
Speaker 5:So I have a question that's to think about. Can you, can you truly be faithful if you sin?
Speaker 1:Can you truly be faithful if you say faithful to God and Jesus if you sin.
Speaker 4:Of course you can yeah? God and Jesus. If you sin, of course you can yep, so we're in this flesh and we're gonna always. We are always gonna sin until the day he calls us home. You can say all you want. You're not sinner.
Speaker 7:But then you're just telling a lie right, so we're only cleansed by his blood.
Speaker 5:It's the blood that cleanses us there's nothing else okay, if you aren't you falling short of. If you sin, then aren't you falling short of?
Speaker 3:I didn't mean you need to be faithful if you sin.
Speaker 5:All I'm saying is if you sin, if you tell a lie or whatever and there's a lot of nuance on that okay, then in my view, you're going against the commandment of God. Therefore, you're not 100% faithful, because if you were 100% faithful, you wouldn't sin. You wouldn't go against what it is that he laid out for you.
Speaker 4:If you were 100% faithful, you wouldn't need him to have died on that cross. That's why he had to die for us, because we cannot, even in our best efforts, our filthy rags before him.
Speaker 7:And when we come to Christ.
Speaker 4:When we come to Christ, he wants our sins are washed away by his precious blood. Hallelujah, thank you, lord Jesus. It gets me really, really. It's hard to hear y'all about this. I got to do this and I got to do that. Nobody's saying no, true born again Believer will ever, ever say, oh, now I'm out, I'm free to go and do what my flesh wants, right, we. But to say that we don't sin is an absolute lie. So I mean it's crazy. I say we just just relax in what he did and it's just, yes, it's making it so hard. When you add works, you're not believing the gospel.
Speaker 7:I agree Self-righteousness.
Speaker 1:Zunche, go ahead, zunche. Zunche right, yeah All right, go ahead, brother, go ahead Speak.
Speaker 7:That's self-righteousness. Yeah, anything more.