The Bible Provocateur
The Bible Provocateur
LIVE DISCUSSION: SINsual Lusts of the Flesh (Part 3 of 4)
The battlefield of the soul is where our deepest spiritual victories are won. This profound conversation dives into the evidence of salvation that many believers overlook—the internal struggle against sin itself. When you feel frustrated by the war between your flesh and spirit, recognize it as confirmation that God's transforming work is happening within you. Those without Christ experience no such conflict because they enjoy their sinful nature unhindered.
At the heart of this discussion is a powerful truth: salvation creates two versions of you—one in the flesh and one in the spirit—both equally real. Your daily choices determine which nature thrives. As one participant beautifully explains, "Whichever one we feed, whichever one we give incentive and motive to" will ultimately dominate our character.
The conversation tackles difficult subjects with refreshing honesty, exploring how "fornication" (from the Greek "pornea") encompasses not just physical acts but also the contemplation and desire for them. We confront the uncomfortable reality that sin progresses in severity—when habitual sin becomes boring, people seek increasingly deviant expressions, explaining why those with unlimited access to pleasure constantly chase more extreme experiences.
For those struggling with relationships, the dialogue offers profound wisdom about waiting on God's timing rather than attempting to orchestrate connections ourselves. "Ask God for what you need in a spouse, not necessarily what you want," advises one participant, sharing how his first wife was "everything I wanted and little or nothing that I needed."
The most liberating insight? Stop being secretive about your struggles. When we confront our faults openly—first before God, then with trusted believers—we strip sin of its power. God never divorces His people, and the conviction you feel when engaging with scripture isn't punishment but the loving guidance of a Father calling you back to wholeness.
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You have the proof that the element of life is in you and people can see it. You're a little sloppy in the way you deal with things. You're a little. You know you need a bib because you're always spewing stuff out. You don't always get it right, but as time goes on, you grow in the grace and in the knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ and you begin to produce fruit that springs up to eternal life. Not that it didn't have eternal life attached to it in the beginning, but you start to understand it, you start to know it, and eternal life is what you're given.
Speaker 1:And notice how, when something is planted in the ground, when good seed is planted into the ground and it begins to take root, what does it do? It grows upward. It wants to reach up to the highest heights, it wants to reach up to the Lord. It grows up. And so we need to think about these things, because sometimes some of us can be a little too anxious, a little too anxious. But it's important to know. I know we've dealt with so far, just we never. We talking about the works of the flesh. We never got off adultery yet. But I think the most significant thing and Blazing Rose really put it right. The Lord himself will never, ever divorce us. He will never divorce us. Brother Greg, go ahead.
Speaker 2:I think maybe I might be like a potato or a carrot, because I seem to get buried a lot maybe, but um, what else?
Speaker 1:is there anything else you want to add, brother? So let me move on. So fornication we won't need to spend a lot of time here. We all know what this is. Fornication is all sex outside of marriage. Period, that's what it is. All sex outside of marriage, and so all sex, any sex. This is all fornication. But not only that, and we have to understand this.
Speaker 1:It is not just sex outside of marriage. It is the contemplation of it, it is the desire of it, it is to look on another woman or man, it is to look on these things with lust in the heart. You have to understand this, sounds foolish in the heart. This, you have to understand this, sounds foolish to the world. There are probably a few people listening to this and going like this guy is ridiculous. These people listening to him are ridiculous Because they will say this is natural for man, and you know what.
Speaker 1:They would be correct. It is natural for man to have these lusts. It is natural to man to have these licentious appetites. It is natural for man. Why? Because by nature, he is a sinner. Sin is natural. Because, by nature he is a sinner. Sin is natural. We're just throwing strikes here. This is not like you know, people do what they want to do. But let's call it what it is. Let's call it what it is Sex outside of marriage, all of it, even the contemplation of it, the lust of it, the desire for it. You know the, the desire inherent in person, the tendency to do it even before having a thought, is sin, like all sin is sister mariah, go ahead um, I just wanted to mention that it is also said to be like a form of idolatry or idol worship, fornication, right.
Speaker 4:So I just think that that's important to know. I mean, like you said earlier, all sin is against God ultimately, right, that's why there is a punishment and a judgment that he has to occur, but in ways that we do see that it is something that we do to each other or other people. It's also, in this way, a form of worship of idols and idolatry against God.
Speaker 1:You know we're going to deal with idolatry, because there is a distinction, and we're going to see that in the next verse, verse 20. But here's something about fornication that needs to be understood. Fornication, it includes not just sex outside of marriage, but it also includes a variety of sexual types, for instance pedophilia, for instance incest, for instance incest, for instance same-sex sex. And you know, do you know where the word fornication comes from? The Greek word is pornea, where we get our word pornography. Fornication here is pornography. That's literally what this word means. It's pedophilia, it's incest, it's homosexuality, it is bestiality, it's incest, it's homosexuality, it is bestiality. It's all these things. It's all these things. Tough to hear for some people, but that word fornication, you can take it out and call it and put in the word pornography, because that's exactly what it is. Challenge me, go look it up. That's what it means Pornography, pornographic. Sister Candy, go ahead.
Speaker 6:Candy you there. Yeah, I forgot. I forgot we got on this other topic, so it left my brain and I couldn't write it down. Sorry, no problem.
Speaker 1:So we come to the next one.
Speaker 6:I remember, I remember, I remember. So, when you said about the, it was like because we're born of the flesh, so we're born into sin, right, so that is the human nature, correct.
Speaker 7:Right.
Speaker 6:Until we're reborn again of the spirit, and then it becomes the spiritual nature. Correct, right? Until we're reborn again of the spirit, and then it becomes the spiritual nature, right, yep, so it's either human nature which is a natural nature, right?
Speaker 5:You can't help but do it.
Speaker 6:It's just what you will do before you're reborn again. Am I wrong?
Speaker 1:That's right. No, you're right. That's what sinners do so.
Speaker 6:This is why, because of all this being said, this is what it makes me think of Then where is the free will at? You know what I'm saying? Because it's either nature of the flesh or it's nature of the spirit. Neither is a free will that we can choose what we want to do with it. And if you're not reborn again, how do you become reborn again? It's not by our choice. You know I'm saying, and I'm just saying that because of the natures that we were discussing right.
Speaker 1:well, you have a sinful nature. You have the will of one who has a sinful nature. So what you will choose is, from among the variety of sin laid out before you, whatever is righteous and holy. You won't choose that. It's not your nature to do that, and this is why, when a person is becomes born again of the will of god, not of the will of man, then this person now has this, has this, has this new nature that has been created, and he becomes a new creature, and now he desires only holy and righteous things, and the and the sin nature that still kind of resides begins the process of decay and death and is dying, and so that old nature becomes an affliction, an affliction that the person is always suppressing. And so we know this. Whether we understand it theologically or not is not the issue, because the thing is, it is the issue. It's good to know it that way, but this is something that we all know from practical experience.
Speaker 1:That's why Paul can say the things that I want to do I don't do, and the things I don't do are the things I do. Oh, this body of death who shall separate me from this? This is what Paul is dealing with. He is describing a contentious relationship between the sinful nature and the new godly nature that is in us that we are led by the Holy Spirit of. But here's the thing Christians, every Christian should understand this, every believer should understand this if you are having this battle of sin within you, that is the best evidence that the spirit of God is working in you. And if the spirit of God is working in you, he will never leave you because of what we're talking about. God will never divorce his people.
Speaker 1:That struggle, like Sister Mariah said, that fight against sin, is the evidence that you are in Christ, because those who are still in the sinful nature, apart from the spirit of God living in them, they are not dealing with any kind of a war working within their members. So, whenever you feel frustrated, whenever you feel frustrated because of this sinful nature that that is that you're, that is always being aroused in your mind to make you go in a different direction, contrary to what you know, the holy spirit is teaching you. This is the evidence you are in a war, but those who are not in that war, like Brother Michael says, they are enjoying it. They're enjoying it. Brother Kanan, go ahead. I think you were going to say something. I hope I didn't get out of order yet. Yeah, kanan.
Speaker 5:I want to drive home this because you just were touching on what I wanted to get into with everything that's been discussed. I wanted to read from Daniel 1, 3 through 7 really quick. Then the king told Ashpenaz, the chief of his officials, to bring in some of the sons of Israel, including some of the royal family and of the nobles youths in whom there was no impairment, who were good looking, suitable for instruction in every kind of expertise, endowed with understanding and discerning knowledge, and who had ability to serve in the king's court. And he ordered Ashpenaz to teach them the literature and language of the Chaldeans. Pay close attention to these verses, okay. The king also allotted for them a daily ration from the king's choice food and from the wine which he drank, and ordered that they be educated for three years, at the end of which they were to enter the king's personal service. Now, among them, from the sons of judah, were daniel hananiah uh, hopefully I don't ruin these names mishael, or, yeah, mishael, and as a as a raya. Then the commander of the officials assigned new names to them and to daniel. He signed the name belchazar to hanah Shadrach, to Mishael Meshach and Azariah Abednego. And so what I want to drive home with this.
Speaker 5:What was happening is that we are under attack in this culture in this day and age, but it's so much more sophisticated rather than being forced into it as Daniel and these other men were forced into it knowingly, seeing it being told hey, you're going to have new names, you're going to learn our literature, you're going to learn our ways.
Speaker 5:We're literally being attacked in every facet of our lives, whether it's what you watch, what you listen to, what you entertain.
Speaker 5:But they sever your spiritual life and your connection to the consciousness in which God has given you and the sensitivity by allowing these things to infiltrate your home, your life, your thought life and all these things.
Speaker 5:So if you entertain these things, such as what we were talking about with, like you know, adultery or whatever we see in the society, it is promoted in abundance, just as all the other things are gluttony, greed, all the things that are totally contrary to God's word, and so we need to be extremely sensitive to what we allow into our homes, into our lives, into our thoughts. What we watch, who we speak to, where we spend our time, all of these things we need to constantly be analyzing and examining, not to be scared or to be uncertain of what God is going to do in our lives, because it takes time to be sanctified and to be aware of these things, but to really examine our lives overall as we walk with Christ, to say is this of God or is this of the world, and what potential danger does it have for me or my family?
Speaker 1:Right, and the key word you said there, brother, was being aware, aware, awareness. This is. This is key because because a lot of Christians, a lot of us sometimes, can want to pretend not to be aware of what we're about to engage into and and see. One thing that I know is that the Holy Spirit, if he lived within you, there is no way you're not going to be aware. There's no way, it's impossible, there's no way he makes you aware. Now you can continue to indulge, like so many people often do, like people often do.
Speaker 1:But to pretend not to be aware is hypocrisy and what you're trying to do is make it seem as though somehow you know, in some respects the Holy Spirit didn't show you along the way or didn't remind you or didn't lead you in a certain way. But the problem is a lot of us. Sometimes we want to feel, we want to stifle, like I said earlier, we want to suppress the truth, we want to push it down because we don't want it to scream, don't want it to scream in our souls, which is what it does. It becomes very clear and pronounced and we just want to drown it out. So we can at least indulge for a little bit, get a little more.
Speaker 7:So, brother jeffrey, encouraging serving, go ahead jonathan, I've often, uh, gotten into some arguments with with Christians over about what I'm about to say next, but I've always had it explained to me, and I've always understood it, that when salvation occurs in the life of the believer, there is essentially two of you there's you in the flesh, you in the spirit, and both of them are equally you. Now we don't maybe like to think of it or look at it in those terms, but that's accurate. The question then becomes okay, which one of them are we going to feed, which one of them are we going to allow to thrive or to prosper? It's whichever one we give ourselves to, whichever one we feed, whichever one we give incentive and motive to. So the question is simply a daily thing we want to live a righteous life is being careful to crucify that flesh every day on the cross so that the spirit can fully have its way in us. Right, and that's just what I wanted to add.
Speaker 1:thank you, brother no, no, anytime, anytime, brother, jeffrey, man of what?
Speaker 2:do you?
Speaker 1:think.
Speaker 3:Well, I mean, you know, when I think about all this is, you know it's. I guess I'm sitting here contemplating my own life again. That's probably why I've been so quiet. But you know, part of it is, I mean, your sin. Nature enables you to fulfill things Sometimes. What you want is not bad, it just gets warped by your sinful nature. I mean, I've had a lot of trouble with relationships. I'll be the first to admit that. But the thing is, you know what I've always wanted? I've always wanted to be with a woman who loved God more than anything else in the world, even more than me, and you know that I could spend my whole life with. That's what I've always wanted. And I've never found her, at least not got Well. I've found women like that. I mean, the women on this panel are like that, but they're either too young or married, or so you know. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I get it hurried or or something.
Speaker 3:You know it's, it's. You see what I'm saying yeah, yeah, I get it and, uh, you know, you know it's, it's. It's one of those things that you know. I find myself toward my definitely twilight years and I and I look back and I think, well, you know I, I've been progressing more and more towards being trying to be closer to god through his word and prayer and service and worship, and you know, that is very comforting. It still doesn't take away the desire to be with somebody, but I'm just not doing it. You know it used to be.
Speaker 3:If I get out of a relationship, the next thing, you know I'm on a dating app or something. I'm looking for the next person and you know that's just, it's no, that's just not where they are. I mean, god, if I I've said I've told people I'd never get married again, and then I had my Christian friends say, well, yeah, you know God, yeah, I know yeah, but this time I'm not going to do anything out there that's going to get me in trouble. I mean, he's going to make it obvious to me if he wants me to be with somebody else again, I don't have to be married, I just want somebody I can spend time with that's one of the key things that I think a lot of people do.
Speaker 1:One of the key things that I think a lot of people do and somebody said it, candy said it in the comments. The thing is, you really have to stop looking and, believe me, this is a normal thing for most people to do. It's hard not to want to do that. Sure to do that, because the reality is, when it comes to relationships, you really need to get out of the way, like Kenny said, and let God do it, because he will. He will.
Speaker 1:Now, I don't want to say that in every instance he will, because there may be instances where he won't, but I will say this Instances where he won't. He will equip you to deal with that, that absence of what it is you're seeking for, because he may be preparing for whatever. We never know. But what I do know is that when we, when we get out there and we try to contrive things that we want to have happen in our lives, we are essentially doing what Sarah and Abraham were guilty of doing, and look what all that costs. So it becomes the kind of thing where the hardest thing to do for a lot of us Christians, the hardest thing sometimes for us to do is to just step aside and wait on the Lord. It sounds like you know, been there, done that, but people always think that they need to help God.
Speaker 3:No, yeah, you're right. I mean, I don't think that. And the thing is too, that's what I'm doing right now. I'm in a period of my life where I'm just, you know, I'm functioning where I should be and you know, I'm not looking. I'm not not looking, it's just that you're looking. It's just that, uh, you're right, uh, it's one of those things that, uh, you know, I realized that over the last few years and you know I was thinking, you know, divorce is horrible and I'm going through another one. But the thing is is I told you privately, jonathan I don't mind sharing with the panel this woman's the most abusive woman I've ever met in my life, and I've always told people that are in an abusive relationship if you can't get somebody to go to counseling and work it through, get out of it. And she absolutely refused to go through counseling, wasn't wanting to change, so I left.
Speaker 4:Right.
Speaker 3:And I don't. I really don't feel bad about it. I mean, I don't have anything. I don't hate her. I prayed for her, but you know I couldn't live with it and but the thing is it's focused me on the lord and, uh, you're right, I've learned to get out of his way, because I just don't do.
Speaker 1:I just do a terrible job on my own, so you're right right yeah, it's tough, brother, and you know, because you know, I think that we all, we are made to be social beings. We're made to be social beings, we're made to have companionships, we're made to be married. Frankly, yeah. So it's different, but we live in a very fallen, corrupt world and so many things get in the way of really being able to forge a commitment that is lasting for a lot of people. So it's difficult. Yeah, mariah, go ahead. Sister, it's difficult, yeah.
Speaker 4:Mariah, go ahead, sister. I just wanted to say that I just love how I know that it probably wasn't in the way that you expected, but I love the reflection on how we have seen ourselves fall short of the glory of God and be able to humbly and with humility say so and be able to encourage one another here to press on and remember who is ultimately an authority. So I just wanted to say that I think that that's very beautiful, because a lot of people, like you said earlier, would suppress those things and act as if they never happened. And well, I don't do this and like you do, or I have not committed X, y and Z, but, like you said in the beginning, we are all, one way or another, guilty. So I just I just think that it's a very beautiful thing.
Speaker 1:So I just think that it's a very beautiful thing it is, and I think that so many of us believers Would do ourselves a tremendous service To stop being sneaky about stuff. Deal with your faults. Confront them openly. Don't worry about if the person that you want to talk to is going to say something or whatever. Lay it out before God first. You know for sure you got to do that and that might be all that's necessary, but sometimes some of us need to have that person that we can be accountable to. You know it's hard, because see, here's what happens when people start falling into various types of sinful activity, then you see them start to drop off from spiritual activities. Did I say that? Anyway, my point is this yeah, when they start engaging in sinful activities, they start to fall off from spiritual activities, which is the last thing you need to do, because, let's say, for instance, someone here is struggling with adultery or lasciviousness or uncleanness or whatever pornography, whatever. All right, now you get two options when I hit that live button, or when some other brother or sister that you follow you hit that live button, or you go to church. When you go, you know that spirit of God is going to work. I can tell you he will definitely work. It's going to come up in the conversation and you're going to be thinking oh my gosh, how do they know? We didn't know anything. But God knows you. And so when you show up, the conviction is going to show up, because you put yourself in a place when you're going to hear it.
Speaker 1:But a lot of us, what we do is we recoil when we want to engage in sin, and that means we recoil from spiritual activities and spiritual indulgences Because we don't want to hear it. We want to do this, I don't want to hear it. We want to do this, I don't want to hear it. But you can cover your ears all you want to, but you cannot stop the thunderous trumpeting of the Holy Spirit that takes place in the soul. So when you feel that you are succumbing to vices that go contrary to godliness, which are pretty much anything that is a vice, this is the time where you need to stay committed to your relationship to the Lord, because when you step out on the Lord, this is what leads down the path of adultery against the Most High, and you need to understand that when you are trying to indulge in these vices and you're trying to be secret and covert about it. You are doing exactly what takes place in an adulterous relationship. Brother Jeffrey, encouraging survey, go ahead.
Speaker 7:Yeah.
Speaker 5:I'm right here, Jonathan.
Speaker 7:I'm right here, jonathan, I just wanted to say that for anybody who is single, who may be listening to this and maybe is hopeful that God will bring someone to their life, just a couple of things. Number one keep praying, keep asking. Pray for that spouse. You may not met them, you may not know them. God only knows where they are in your life. You pray for them anyway.
Speaker 7:And the thing that helped me the most, jonathan, is I was taught by a friend of mine to ask God and a spouse for what I need, not necessarily what I want in a spouse. My first wife was everything I wanted and little or nothing that I needed. Joni is a little bit of both, but a lot of what I need. Okay, she blesses me, she encourages me. I would not be here tonight sharing with you and the rest of the good folks here in the panel tonight, if it wasn't for the love that she has invested into me over the course of our marriage, and so she has loved me with God's love, which is unconditional, and I didn't know what that was.
Speaker 7:I had to learn what that was. I had to let her and allow her to teach me, to show me what that was. You know I had to learn what that was. I had to let her and allow her to teach me, to show me what that was, and now that I have seen it, I can go and walk in it and show it to other people, but again praying for who God wanted me to have and for him to send that person when he's ready, not when I think I'm ready, because when Joni came into my life at the moment I was not looking, jonathan, I wasn't searching, and then kaboom, there she was. So God has his own timing. So be encouraged by that. Out there, anybody who's here tonight waiting for God to move in that area, be encouraged. He knows what you need. Pray for him to bring what that area. Be encouraged, he knows what you need. Pray for him to bring what you need into your life.
Speaker 1:So you know thank you for that, brother the last two in this particular section, we have uncleanness, and we have lasciviousness, uncleanness, and we have lasciviousness and and, and these are really sort of like uh, repetitive in a lot of ways to what we've already been dealing with, what we've been talking about. But these, the but, these expressions, um, lasciviousness and uncleanness take the lack of purity to another level, to where it becomes really dirty, and even in lasciviousness, it also deals with this issue of sloth and laziness, wantonness, and so these things being put together, when you look at what we've already read so far because so far we just dealt with one category of, of of these sins, which are the sensual sins, adultery, fornication, lasciviousness and uncleanness but all of these are incorporated together and it takes the aspects of adultery, fornication, and it takes it to a filthier level, if you will, than what would be considered normative, even for the sin. And so when you get to uncleanness, it takes impurity to a higher degree. Like I said and I want to say it the way it is so that people understand the magnitude it means you pursue these things and you engage on filthier levels. In other words, what happens is that you become so accustomed to the sin that you are engaging in that it becomes boring. And now you want to kick it up a notch and it becomes filthier than what it was before. That's what it is.
Speaker 1:I'm bored, I need something else. So you have these, you have these, you know. I don't have to explain it because I don't want to say anything on accident that will get this thing shut down. But you know what. I don't have to explain it because I don't want to say anything on accident that will get this thing shut down. But you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1:And so Paul here assumes that you know. He assumes that you know, because one thing that sinners know is sin. He doesn't have to explain it really. He gives us the category, he gives us the label and we know because it's inherent. We may not know a whole lot about predestination, we may not know a whole lot about mercy or the attributes of God or the ordo salutis in salvation or soteriology, but man are natural born experts in sin, and when something becomes too, when something has become habituated and normalized in our own lives, even though it may be gross from the standpoint of others, you get bored, we get bored and we want to kick it up a notch and get filthy Brother Michael go ahead.
Speaker 2:Making me think how there's uh places. It's almost these people that want to go to these deep down dark, dungeonous type clubs and engage in whatever filth is there yep, it really is, brother, and it's like.
Speaker 1:It's like um, you know, we've seen people in the news while we're wondering what's happening, what they're doing, and you know baby oil and parties and all you guys aren't talking about, but what happens is like people in people. You know I used to work in the Hollywood world when celebrities, when you have access to everything and anything and everyone, there's nothing. You haven't tried Nothing. You have access to any vice, anything you can think of, and they're always trying new ways to take it to the next level. And it gets to be like it's not just the sexes that's a big part of it, but it's the drugs, it's the partying, it's the how they perform. And you watch what goes on in these stages right now, on these shows. It's unbelievable what people will do in front of the world For attention, for fame, stepping in God's territory, trying to usurp his glory in order to consume glory upon themselves. My brother, nathan, said this is mainstream churches. This is true. This is so true.
Speaker 1:I remember when I was young and I'm going to come back to brother Canaan in a second. But I remember when I was young and I'm going to come back to Brother Canaan in a second, but I remember when I was young, a pastor Would be on the same level On the floor, standing up though, but on the same level with the congregation, walking up and down the aisles preaching, just walking up and down the aisles, walking around the church, Speaking to everybody that way. Then, as time went on, you know, then the pulpit was, there was a pulpit podium put in the middle aisle. So the pastor went from walking around without a microphone to getting a microphone, to putting a podium in the middle of the aisle with the microphone, to getting a microphone, To putting a podium in the middle of the aisle With the microphone. Then a stage Is built and the pulpit is put on top of that. Now you have the pulpit Becomes a stage. In a lot of cases, the podium is gone. Then there's the addition of screens everywhere, big giant screens, turning the worship service into one big giant production.
Speaker 1:Now you go into a church. They look like clubs, they look like nightclubs, they got like laser lights and light shows and all this nonsense. It's stupid, it's a production, because they need to, because they're not in a place where they can afford to tell people the truth, where they can afford to tell people the truth. The music is terrible. They got to put on dance shows and plays and all this kind of stuff. You can sit in a church for two or three hours and only have 20 minutes of preaching and the people walk out of there thinking they were blessed. I'm just saying, brother Kanan, go ahead. You were going to say something.
Speaker 5:First of all, excellent point. I mean, that's exactly what it is, and it's heartbreaking and disturbing to see that they turned God's house into a theater. But I wanted to read Hebrews 4, 14 to 16 and drive a quick point home off of what you were saying earlier as well. Therefore, since we have a great high priest who has passed through the heavens, jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession. Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession, for we do not have a high priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but one who has been tempted in all things as we are yet without sin. Therefore, let us draw near with confidence to the throne of grace so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help in time of need. And just as we cling to his grace and the truth of this, we cling also to the things that will build us up.
Speaker 5:We cling to a Bible teaching church. We cling to fellowship, we cling to regular relationship and reading of the Holy Scripture, fasting, prayer, all the elements that make up our faith. We must cling to them if we want to overcome whatever it is that is plaguing us or overrunning our life and affecting us spiritually, mentally, physically, our relationships, whatever have you, but we do it together, because where one cord is easily broken, three is not, and so we need to lean into each other and rely on each other in these things and to be bold about that, because the enemy wants to drive us away into isolation, and that's.