The Bible Provocateur
The Bible Provocateur
LIVE DISCUSSION: (Job 6:21-30) Iniquity On My Tongue? (Part 3 of 4)
Truth that corrects doesn’t shout; it lands. We open Job 6:25 and ask why some words pierce the heart while others blow past like wind. The answer isn’t volume or vocabulary. It’s proof, precision, and love—truth fitted to the person in front of us, anchored in Scripture, and delivered with humility.
Together we trace what “forcible” words look like through Nathan’s confrontation of David: a rebuke that carried weight because it matched reality and honored God. From there, we challenge a common reflex in church life—getting more abstract as the suffering gets more concrete. Theology can be accurate and still miss the moment if it’s not applied rightly. We talk about keeping language simple, avoiding word salad, and resisting the urge to toss out Greek without context. The aim is biblical excellence that clarifies rather than confuses, bringing light instead of heat.
We also name the courage it takes to admit error, especially after teaching. Humility is not a brand; it’s a practice. Study invites the Spirit’s recall, and silence can be a strategy—give space, let the other side make their full case, then answer with Scripture. Hard questions about God’s attributes, sovereignty, and human will surface as examples of how to reason from the text instead of our preferences. And we return to Job’s ache: don’t treat a wounded person’s words as mere wind. Bring arguments that actually prove something, tethered to the real life in front of you.
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Experience. There's nothing to me that hurts more than teaching something out of God's word and then finding out later you are wrong. And the person who loves the Lord and who loves his word, they're going to be ready to admit that. A true believer wherein the Holy Spirit dwells, when they have been shown wrong, when they've been shown that they were wrong, they will admit it. Go ahead, Lisa. Go ahead.
SPEAKER_05:Okay, so um again, my version says, How painful are honest words, but what do your arguments prove? So what I'm just trying to I know what you what you just said, but it it sounds to me if the unless this is wrong, that it's painful to hear what his friends think of him. But they don't prove it doesn't prove anything. It's like it's like they're showing their true colors, and there's no proof, but it's it's hurting him because they're they're revealing their hearts to him, basically. And I mean, would you would you agree or am I totally off the mark on on I mean, just read your read your version again?
SPEAKER_03:Verse 25.
SPEAKER_05:Verse 25. How painful are honest words? Right. But what do your arguments prove?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, so no.
SPEAKER_05:I'm I'm just looking at the easiest translation for me at the moment.
SPEAKER_03:Right, that's fine. But your version says the exact same thing. So here's here's what he's saying. Because remember, his problem, Job's problem with his friends, sister, is that they don't have anything for him. And what he is telling, what he's giving them an admonishment. He goes, I'm gonna stay silent. I'm gonna let you speak. Because if you're going to speak truth, they are going to be forcible. You follow me? He's he he's saying that what he's doing is he's he's admonishing them. He says, Listen, I'm giving you the floor. This is your opportunity to speak right words. And if you do so, they will be forcible. In other words, they will have the impact that you are desiring that they have on me. And then he goes on to say, but so far, your arguing hasn't proven anything. You have not corrected. You follow me?
SPEAKER_05:Yes, sir. Thank you.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, gotcha. But this is what this is what he's saying. Does anybody want to add to that? Does anybody have a different perspective? If you do, speak up.
SPEAKER_00:I think also that you know, to back put tobacco what you were saying, he was like, if what you're saying is true, this is why the words would be forcible.
SPEAKER_02:Yes.
SPEAKER_00:Because the what I know and where my faith is, my faith is in the Lord, if he were speaking right now, I would hear.
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_00:And I think that's with all believers. You know, like when we come to a place that place of truth in scripture, is the flesh wants to reject anything, but the spirit inside of you only knows truth and only can receive truth. And so so many times, you know, you hear people who are so stuck in their ways, in their own beliefs, or how they think God should be. But when you meet the God of the Bible, do you hear? That's why Jesus said something very pre very those that have ears, let them hear what the spirit is saying.
SPEAKER_03:Right. Yeah, he he he he Lisa, you get it, right, sister? Does it make sense? Because I want to make sure you're clear before I move on.
SPEAKER_05:Yes, yes, thank you so much. Thank you all. Thank you.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah, because that's what he's saying. He he's going like he's going, give me the truth. I mean, think about this. Everybody remember what happened with David, with with um Bathsheba and and uh and killing Uriah and all this kind of stuff, right? And this went on for about eight months before he repented, and he didn't like offer it up, he didn't offer repentance. Nathan had to come to him and give him this parable about somebody doing what David did. And Nathan said to David, What should such a thing be done to a man that does something like this? David was like, you know, do this and do that, do that. And you know what? And what did Nathan say? Does anybody remember what Nathan said? It's you, O king, that has committed this sin. Thou art the man. He said, You are that man. And so that was the truth, and that those were the right words, and they were forcible. That those words impacted David. They had force in them because they were the truth. Nathan didn't bring an argument to David about his sin that wasn't going to do what it needed to do, which was to reprove David. He got the facts and he brought it to David with the full force and the full weight of divinity behind him. And he told David, You are that man. And David knew immediately because the words were forcible. Job is asking his friends, bring me forcible words. Yes, if they are true, and if they prove that what you're saying is true about me, yes, they will hurt, they will affect me, but they will be corrective in nature, meaning they will reprove me, I will be reproved. But right now, your arguments aren't doing that. You are not getting there with what you're saying so far. And this is what he's saying, and he says that a just rebuke, a true rebuke will pierce my heart and it will do so powerfully, and I will submit to that conviction, and if you work with me and hold me accountable, then what I will do is I will work with you and submit to guidance and instruction as to how to move on. Their arguments had all kind of heat, smoke and fire, no substance, no weight behind it whatsoever. They give all these broad theological maxims, but they don't say what is really bothering him, but they get real theological. This is what Christians do. You talk to them about a problem you have or they see you going through a struggle or whatever, they get real, they get real theological and speak a lot of things that have no application whatsoever to what you are going through. You can be true, like Kenny said, sounds good, but irrelevant. That's the problem. This is what this book of Job is all about. A whole bunch of people speaking the truth, including Job, but they are irrelevant for the circumstances and what's going on. This can be one of the overlying characterizations of this book is being deep, being theological, understanding the doctrines, quoting the scriptures backwards and forwards, and in every instance applying it completely wrong. And this is why I'm always asking questions to all of you about these things because it it helps us to start thinking about these things and start to apply them in the right way in our own minds, because if we get it here, then we can put it out there for others. That's the benefit of this whole thing. So if somebody says, Well, I'm going through this situation, you can go, wait, wait a minute, I can tell you how to deal with that situation. This is what happened to Job, this is what happened to Nahum, this is what happened to Jonah, this is what happened to Amos, this is what happened to Peter, and so on and so on. And you can just flip the script all day long. That's what we're supposed to do, to learn how to handle this weapon that is the sword of God's word. And so, this is what we need to do, and this is what Job is asking them to do. He's asking them to give me something that I can choose. Don't just give me all these broad generalities. Tell me about me. Show me how I have offended the justice of God. Show me how these principles that you're laying, although they are true, show me how those are relevant, like Sister Candy said, how are they relevant to me? Because words have no value and they are weak when they are not supported by proof, when there's no substance behind them. And this is what is happening with Jove. Uh Brother Jeffrey, encouraging serving. Go ahead. And then Candy, next.
SPEAKER_01:Jonathan, let's back up here for just a second and ask ourselves a question. And we all have to be honest with ourselves. Are we willing to fully admit when we find out that we were wrong? About, especially about something we have taught from God's Word? Or do we just kind of ignore it and kind of sweep it under the rug and then say, oh, well, I didn't know, I didn't have all the information? Are we willing to admit we were wrong? Jonathan, there is nothing wrong with that. In fact, when we admit we have been wrong or in error, it strengthens us because it humbles us before God. But yet, Jonathan, we live in a culture today, and I know that you and everybody in the panel knows this, that admitting that you are wrong is the last thing in the world this culture does. They will never, ever, ever admit that they were wrong.
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_01:And it's my hope that all of us, by God's grace and goodness and his strength, are willing to admit that if and when it's clear from God's word we are wrong. That's right. And that's one of the things we love about your friendship and teaching, Jonathan, is that you call us out when we're wrong to say, okay, show me why you believe this, what you believe, and why you believe it. Okay. And if we're wrong, okay, I was wrong. So we need to be humble in that regard, and that's all I wanted to say.
SPEAKER_03:You have to, you have to really hate being wrong when it comes to God's word. Everybody here should be, should want to hate to be wrong. You should strive to be correct. I don't go live and have these conversations because I plan on being wrong. That's that's you, you know, that's just not what anybody does. If you step into a pulpit, you know, which I have in the past, and or you do a teaching or you lead a Bible study, your goal is not to be wrong. Like Meg says, biblical precision is what we need to be. And I'm telling you, what made me like this was finding out that I was wrong. My first three or four years as a Christian, you know, in 83 through 86, you know, you know, 86, 87, I all I knew was this dispensational format for understanding the word of God. But I didn't know there was anything different. And me, being the kind of person I am, I was studying the scriptures and I was finding myself, you know, I was aligned with those and I didn't think that there was anything different. I just assumed that's what everybody believed. And I'm out there eagerly and aggressively witnessing, sharing, teaching people these things and whatever when I wasn't ready to be in that role yet. And man, when I found out that I was wrong, brother, let me tell you something. It hurt me bad. I realized that I told people things that were wrong. And I vowed to myself that I would never ever be that loose-lipped again. That whatever I'm gonna present to you, I do my homework before I do it. That's what everybody should do. Does it mean I'm never gonna be wrong again? No, it does not mean that. It doesn't mean that. I will be wrong again. I'll make a mistake here and there, I'll do that. But I'm telling you, when I come here to sit with you at night, and I hope you will do this with groups and people and your family that you sit with at night, that you strive to be correct. Don't just know what you believe, but know why you believe it. You need to know why. That means you need to be able to connect the dots, be logical, make it so that it is understandable. Don't try to talk. There are certain people that I see on here all the time. They try to talk above everybody's head, thinking that people are gonna think they are a genius. When what we need to do is take these lofty things in the scripture and distill them down in the most simplest terms so that everybody can understand. So that a third year, a third grader can understand. Anybody, a child, an adult, an older person, whatever. Strive in the word of God to be correct. Always. Let that be your goal to be correct. You don't have to open your mouth all the time. You don't have to say something just because somebody's asking you, because people, one of the greatest forms of flattery is when somebody's asking you something that you hold dear to you, but you may not understand it. Like the truth of God's word. Some of us they can't pass a question without trying to answer it, even if they don't have know what the answer is. They want to sound like they do, but they don't. And what's gonna happen is you're gonna cross paths with somebody like I did, and they're gonna ask you to give an account for your understanding, for your, for your logic, and what you're talking about. And then you have to ask yourself, can you do it, or are you gonna have this, you're gonna just respond just because blah, blah, blah. And it's this word salad. Be precise, be accurate, be truthful, be honest, and if you don't know, keep your mouth shut. That's a good way to live as a Christian if you if you're gonna be one who who feels that dispensing with the word of God is part of your everyday life. It's not a beatdown or a rebuke, it's a warning. And the warning isn't about what God's gonna do to you, it's about what you're gonna do to yourself when you have to undergo such a humiliation as that. I know what it feels like. And that's why I'm saying it, because I know what it feels like. And no none of you, none of you, sisters and brothers, should have to go through that. None of you. So always strive to be clear and precise about what you understand the word of God to be saying before you just start answering questions that you know doggone well you have no answer for, but you feel you're gonna razzle-dazzle somebody's soul, and they're not gonna know any better, so you're just gonna keep going. If you don't know, don't start throwing out a bunch of word salads. Just don't do that. You're gonna confuse people, and you you you're gonna have some kind of negative impact on that person's soul potentially. And so, this is what we have to try to do. Strive, there is nothing wrong with striving for biblical excellence. It is godly to do that, it is godly to do that. So I'm sorry if I labored on this issue too much, but I think it needs to be said because, like I said, I want to not have any of you go through what I went through when I did it. Um, Sister Candy and then Meg.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, but Brother Jonathan, you're so right because in this world that we live in, I don't think one person's gonna not experience something to that effect. Whether we are a friend of Job or whether we are Job, in whatever circumstances may be. If we are not for sure and seeking all perspectives, that's where we're wrong in the beginning to begin with.
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_04:Is looking at it from a one-tonel mindset track thought. You gotta look at it from, and I'm so thankful. I man, Lisa, what you brought up, sister, it it literally made me want to say right after you spoke that we're we're talking about Job right now, but what we really should be talking about is us. Where are we at in this in this story right here? What do what are we doing and how are we doing it? Are we so proudful that we're children of God that we're talking to people as if we're job's friends and talking to them as if they're job? You know what I'm saying? Like this, this, I ain't, I'm like you, brother Jonathan. This touches home.
SPEAKER_03:Well, you're not sure.
SPEAKER_04:Like that's the that's the beautiful part about Job.
SPEAKER_03:Well, we talked, Sister Candy, yesterday, right? When we talked about when Job says, when Job says, you're speaking falsely about me, and in doing so, you are showing a lack of reverence for God. And he's saying that. He's telling you, you are misapplying the word of God, and that is indicative of your lack of fear for God Himself.
SPEAKER_04:Exactly. Exactly, exactly, exactly. Because you're using it as a weapon.
SPEAKER_02:Exactly.
SPEAKER_04:That's what we and I'm victim of that. I call myself a victim because until now, I didn't see it. Like when we talked yesterday, you know yourself, I admitted I see where I where I had fallen victim to it, but I was that one that was doing it.
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_04:And not and and and all kindness of my heart, no, no intentions of it being that percepted, you know. So again, guys, it's when when when when we look at God's mercy for us, we really, we really, before we open our mouths, we really have to look at what we're about to say and how it's perceived.
SPEAKER_03:And you better be right. You better be right.
SPEAKER_04:You better in in in certain circumstances, and I'm gonna reflect to the TikTok and the lives and what these people be saying. Well, we'll matter of fact, I'm gonna I'm gonna resort to Sir Jonathan here. Show me proof, show me proof in the book, show me verses that back up what you're saying. And if we don't have verses, and I'm gonna say this before I even move further. If the Holy Spirit Is not the one that give us whatever it is that we feel we need to speak on when we speak. If we don't have verses to back it up, it's not of the Holy Spirit. It's not of God. If you've got verses to back up what we are speaking to another out of love and kindness and mercy and grace, long suffering and taking and bearing the burden with a person and sacrificing for the sacrifices that God sacrificed for us and the the healing that we receive from his pain and suffering. Yo, man, you that's where you need to be be like a what is it? A fool can even be wise when he keeps his mouth shut.
SPEAKER_02:Absolutely.
SPEAKER_04:Because he don't know what he's speaking about. If the shoe fits, wear it. If it don't, don't sweat it.
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_04:And that's a motto that I was I learned a long time ago. Because people would say things I I literally was like, is that me? Like, are they really talking about me? And it was like, I who did I resort to? Because who am I gonna get the truth from? Not nobody around me.
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_04:Because they're just gonna say what what I should or should not do, and and the world would love, love. The world loves to tell us. The world loves to tell us what we should and should not do.
SPEAKER_03:People can't wait for you. It's hard enough, uh, brethren. It's hard enough dealing with people and dealing with a society in Christian circles where the premise of any conversation for most people is just simply to be argumentative. So it's difficult enough. And then when you add that you're going to go half-cocked and say something that you can't really verify or can't prove or can't substantiate and haven't and haven't figured it out on your own, it just adds to the mix because the opposing side is always looking for fault. They're always looking for fault. They want you to say the one thing. And when you say that one thing that is wrong, if you misspell methaneo, you are discredited for the rest of your life. No matter what you say after that, you're, you're, you're just that that can't be true. And I mean, everything you say has got to be wrong. This is what they're this is what it is. And so this is why it is important to not just like, you know, because for some reason in the late 80s, early 90s, it became this big popular thing in non-denominational churches to get involved with doing two things, expositional preaching, which is good. I think it's good. But then something that, you know, in that time in that time frame, it became very popular to throw out Greek words and say that it's a Greek word and tell you what the Greek word means and how it's used, and all this other kind of stuff. But the so this has become a problem. Because what happens is people think that they can look at a word in the scriptures and then go to a Greek concordance, see the word in there, see what the definition says in there, and now all of a sudden they understand everything that that passage has to say where that word is used. No idea that that word can have a multiplicity of uses. No idea. You have to not just understand what a word means, but you do have to understand what the word, how the word is used in a broader context. And so there's not enough Christians that are doing this. And I'm not just talking about the context of the story or the narrative, but I'm talking about in the structure of the passages. You know, and I could go on all day with this, but this is why I try as I try as little as possible to draw out, to draw, to throw things out there. This is what it says in the Greek, this is what it says in the Greek. Sometimes you have to do that. But if you don't understand certain aspects, like in John's in 2 Peter 39 3.9, when God's, when Peter says that God is not willing that any should perish, we talked about this before. Well, there is a good, there's a good chap verse that if you don't understand it, you're gonna make the mistake that our non-denominational friends, and I call them non-denominational because they refuse to accept the word Arminian. But the Arminian persuasion of theology is consistent with every non-denominational group that I know. And so that's what I call them now. I won't call you Armenian because you won't know what it is, and most people get confused about what an Armenian is and think you're talking about the nation of Armenia and those citizens when it's not. But the non-denom the non-denominational um systems, churches that call themselves that, I've never met one that didn't embrace everything that was Armenian theologically. Not one. But we need to keep things simple and we need to make sure that that we understand something. If you understand the attributes of God, for example, if you understand his attributes, you understand that God's sovereignty, you understand that God doesn't change, you understand that he's all-knowing, all-powerful. This gives us much insight into almost every passage of scripture in terms of how God sees it, in terms of how God views what we're what we're what we're talking about. Um I digress. Uh Sister May, go ahead.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I you know, I was I heard somebody say this one time and it's stuck with me ever since. And it was a a girl that I was listening to, and she says, you know, she says, we cannot be like Peter and think that we have to defend and cut off somebody's ear. She says, but because if we cut off somebody's ear with scripture, they won't be able to hear.
SPEAKER_03:I like that.
SPEAKER_00:And you know, Jeff said, that's why I said Jeff was in my head, because he said to use one's sword properly requires study and patience. And when you're when you're using a sword, it demands precision when you use it. And it could be the other way around. Meaning, like my best friend, for example, you can give people truth all day long. But but sometimes the Lord has them on a journey, but our job is to reveal it. And the Holy Spirit is is telling me, Am I the teacher or are you? Let me know.
unknown:Right.
SPEAKER_00:And we have to understand that the Holy Spirit is the one who leads and guides into all truth. Right. And sometimes people in their journeys and wherever they're at in their relationship with the Lord, people have a hard time accepting truth. And I can testify if if there's not somebody who's wrestling with truth in the Bible, I think you're reading it wrong. Because there's a lot of places that you are gonna come to where truth meets your lack of knowledge or what you thought you believed, and you come into a phase in your faith where it's like, all right, we're about to meet the God of the Bible. Are you ready to dismiss the God you think you have?
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_00:And take hold of the God of the Bible. And and Jonathan, when you said it's it's about at his attributes, oh, is it so? There, if if if you don't understand who God is in his attributes and what those weight carries, and what he can do, what he won't do, who he is not, you cannot apply something to God that he is not because it fits your narrative of how you want to believe.
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_00:You can't.
SPEAKER_02:You can't do it.
SPEAKER_00:I I just wanted to add that, man. We can't go taking the word, cutting people's ears off, and expecting them to hear. We got to keep their ears on.
SPEAKER_03:I like that. Tell whoever your friend is, I'm gonna steal that. Yeah, it's brother. Encourage your servant. Go ahead.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, Jonathan, I just want to uh uh echo a little bit off of what Meg just said a moment ago, talking about truth, Jonathan. Uh truth is a powerful thing, as we know. And one of the reasons why truth is hated so much is the fact that nothing needs to be added to it, nothing can be taken away from it. It doesn't give people wiggle room to begin to try to find ways to argue against it or to subtly change it. Truth is truth, it is absolute. That's why Jesus said, I am the way, the truth, and the life. I mean, see I think sometimes we overlook, and I know I have been guilty of this, which is why I say this. Jonathan, you we don't realize just how powerful a thing truth really is and how much the world hates it because they can't refute it. When truth is out there and it's staring people in the face, you face, they either embrace it or they reject it. And you take that with Jesus, that's exactly how we are with him. You either embrace what he told us and what he did for us, or you reject it. There is no third option, it's one or the other. And this goes back to what you were talking about, how simple the gospel is. It's either A, accept, B, reject. Which one are you gonna choose? Right. It's it's a simple thing for us to communicate that if we do it with love. Right. But Jonathan, like I said, truth is a powerful thing, and we need to be careful how we speak it because it can be, like I said, it can be misunderstood and be hurtful if we don't apply it correctly.
SPEAKER_03:The thing is, the thing about it is here here's here's one thing, especially for people who aspire to become teachers and ministers and whatever they may do, uh, evangelists, whatever. The the the one thing that is gonna make you formidable, first, having a thoroughgoing understanding of the word of God. Is it gonna be perfect? No. But the Holy Spirit can only call to remembrance things you actually learn from the word of God. I know there are a lot of people out there who want to believe that there's gonna be some supernatural occurrence that's gonna give them the wisdom of God and all the scriptures. It's not gonna happen. We have to study to show ourselves approved. That's what the Lord Jesus Christ said. So there's not gonna be any magic situation where when you are faced with a confrontation with somebody who is able to outspeak you or whatever, whatever it may be. You're not gonna get some supernatural revelation if you haven't learned it yourself. If you ever studied the word of God, don't expect anything miraculous to make you understand it or know it in the moment. The Holy Spirit is gonna give you recall for what the Holy Spirit has taught you. And you need to go and study the word of God and understand it. And it's hard work. But the Christian who loves God loves to hear from Him. And the next thing that people need to do, we think sometimes that we will be heard through much speaking. Some people just don't know when to stop talking. It's like when you say, when you say the truth, be as succinct as possible and let it marinate. Just let it marinate. This is what the word of God says. How do you explain this? If you're saying this, how does that comport with this? And people have to wrestle with that. For example, if I say to you that God loves the world, and we take that to mean that it means everyone universally, without exception, and you couple that with the understanding that God can't change and doesn't change, that tells you that tells many people that understand John 3.16 the way they do, there's a problem. Because everyone that God loves will be redeemed. And if that verse means every single person and that God and that God loves every single person and God can't change because he's unchangeable, then that means his love is universal for everyone. And we also can never walk away with the conclusion that there are those in hell that God loves. So when you start at the root of these things with with understanding the nature of God, that he can't change whatever it is, whatever it is, that he has whatever his view of you is, it always has been. So when God says, when God who can't change, says that I love Jacob and I hated Esau, and God can't change, how do you explain that?
SPEAKER_02:How do you explain that with God's unchangeable, invariable nature? You have to explain that.
SPEAKER_03:And people don't want to deal with these things, but you be direct and you ask them, how do you explain this? And you watch these people twist themselves in the pretzel trying to rationalize, well, it's because you didn't choose him and you didn't do this and you didn't do that. And I and I say to them, in that case, aren't isn't that rebellion? Isn't that unbelief? Isn't that unwillingness to believe? Aren't all those things sins that the Lord Jesus Christ died for? How do you explain that? Are you saying that he died for all of these sins, but didn't it didn't die for this one? Last time I checked, brethren, unbelief was a sin.
SPEAKER_02:In fact, unbelief is the ultimate sin.
SPEAKER_03:So you have to ask yourself, what sin is it that kept you from coming to faith that was a result of you not exercising your quote-unquote free will, you have to understand something. That God is sovereign over all things, and this is what man does not want to understand and accept and embrace.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, you may call yourself a Christian, but you don't know the Lord.
SPEAKER_03:How can you say I know the Lord and yet at the same time argue that you have a free will?
SPEAKER_02:Because if I had a free will, I know for a fact I wouldn't be loving the Lord now. I know that. I would never choose him.
SPEAKER_03:I would be just like one of those people Isaiah talked about when I would say there is nothing comely about him that I should desire him. But yet you have people that go, I would, I do, I have.
SPEAKER_02:This is what they say. That doesn't comport with scripture.
SPEAKER_03:So my point is, we need to have an understanding of the word of God, and we need to be able to make these arguments out of scripture. And this is what Job is asking his friends to do. Make your case, and I will be convinced. I will be silent, I will let you make the case. And sometimes, believers, sometimes we need to do the same things with those who oppose us, like in this case, with Job's friends opposing him. Stop and be silent, and let them give us all the fodder that we need to respond to them appropriately. Be silent, tell them, make your case. Let me hear. In verse 26, Job says to his friends, do you imagine to reprove words and the speeches of one that is desperate? Talking about himself. Do you imagine to reprove words and the speeches of one that is desperate, which are as the wind? In other words, what Job is saying, he's saying is that he's talking about himself. Are you imagining to reprove my words? Are you imagining to uh reprove my speeches? Being that I'm the one who's in this desperate situation. Verse 26. He says, My words are as the wind. And Job is making this protest to them. You know, he's saying, like, listen, I know that my words mean nothing to you. I know I'm speaking from the standpoint of a spirit that has been wounded. I'm full of anguish. Full of it. But I'm telling you, it is not because of wickedness. I know what I'm saying is falling on deaf ears. And I know that you want to take my words and just cast them away and treat them as just like the wind. I'm just making noise. And he says, and he and he and he goes, You're you, you know, you're treating my lament, my cries, as the wind.
SPEAKER_02:I'm just expressing brokenness.
SPEAKER_03:I'm just expressing brokenness. My heart is broken. I don't know why. You seem to know, but you won't say. You just tell me I'm a sinner. That I'm reaping what I sowed.
SPEAKER_02:But what exactly?