The Bible Provocateur
The Bible Provocateur
LIVE DISCUSSION: Kirk Cameron Denies Endless Punishment (Part 4 of 4)
Eternity is either the most sobering truth you’ll ever face or the most convenient myth to ignore. We walk straight into that tension and ask hard questions about annihilationism, the meaning of “everlasting,” and why the Bible ties divine love and divine justice together without letting either one go. From Matthew 25 to John 5 and Daniel 12, we trace a consistent thread: all are raised, all are judged, and destinies are fixed—life or condemnation—with no purgatory and no postmortem appeals.
We unpack how culture has turned hell into a punchline, and why that numbs our conscience. Then we rebuild from first principles: what resurrection means for both body and soul, why Jesus speaks of unquenched fire and an undying worm, and how a resurrected body can be “fitted” for eternity—either glory or gehenna. Along the way, we address the common objection that eternal punishment feels disproportionate, and we explain why minimizing judgment ultimately empties the cross of its gravity. If sin is light, Calvary is overkill; if the cross was necessary, then sin’s end is deadly serious.
We also explore the historical roots of annihilationism and why the view keeps resurfacing, even as it clashes with the plain reading of Scripture. The conversation stays practical: how should we preach, pray, and live if the stakes are truly eternal? Why does clarity on final judgment give urgency to evangelism and hope to the faithful? And how can we resist the drift toward soft theology by returning to the Word with humble discipline and open ears?
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People are all caught up in their feelings because they don't want God to be the God that He actually is. It drives me bananas. But this is what people, this is what this is what is going on. Everlasting, forever, eternal, they are always the same. And you have these, you have another group of clowns that go around saying, well, this is what the word Aeon means, and Aeon is this, and Aeonis is this, and that and the other. And but what they're speaking about is contained within the framework of time, not in the framework of afterlife, where there is no longer time. When Christ returns, there's eternity, and that's it. And when God's, and when Christ says here in Matthew 25, 41, then he will say to those on his left hand, Depart from me, you cursed, into everlasting fire. Notice, prepare for the devil and his angels. Now, some will argue, well, see, that's not for Christians, or not, that's not for people, that's for devil and his angels. Angels are messengers. Angels are servants, angels are heralds. When you go to Revelation, chapter uh the first three chapters, Christ has his words that he speaks to each one of the seven churches. And each pastor of the church, of each of those seven churches, guess what he calls them? Angels. To the angel of the church of Ephesus, to the angel of the church of Smyrna, to the angel of the church of Philadelphia, and so on. Angel, when this says here the devil witness angels, it's not talking about just the celestial beings, but all of those who speak on Satan's behalf, all of those who do his bidding. Whether they are the celestial host or whether they are men who um serve Satan and die in his servants as his servant, having been or having received his mark, his children. Jesus told the Pharisees in John 8 44, you are of your father the devil. Faux Fip, go ahead, brother.
SPEAKER_06:You were gonna say something. Go ahead. Faux Fip, you there?
SPEAKER_04:My phone. I'm sorry, my phone is acting kind of crazy. I just had a question about um the annihilation thing, right? I'm sorry, my kid is with me as well. Um annihilation. Um I was wondering what like what it would have meant to you because my understanding of annihilation is like complete destruction. Um so I just really wanted to ask you that question, and like what do you think of the difference between annihilation and and being erased?
SPEAKER_07:Well, annihilation and being erased are the same thing. Annihilation is that not only not only is your body not only is your body destroyed, never to be raised, but your soul is gone, erased. No existence. Which is completely contrary to everything that we know about scripture, which tells us that resurrection is going to take place for everybody. Now, if you're annihilated, how are you resurrected? The central theme of the Christian faith is resurrection. And unfortunately, for those who reject Christ, they are going to be resurrected as well. And let me read a verse for you so you see what I'm talking about. It says here.
SPEAKER_09:Revelation 20.
SPEAKER_07:No, John. Um, so let me give you an example. I don't have my glasses here. All right. So in Revelation, in John chapter 5, this is what the Lord Jesus Christ Himself says. He says, Do not marvel at this, for the hour is coming in which all that are in the graves will hear his voice. And he says, All, all people, not just the Christians, but the unbelievers, they will hear his voice and come forth. Now listen, those who have done good to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil to the resurrection of condemnation.
SPEAKER_06:He says it as plain as day.
SPEAKER_07:When he returns, there's going to be a general resurrection, not some pre-tribulation rapture nonsense. When he returns, all people, rich, poor, white, black, American, whatever, whatever, it he's raising everyone from the dead. Those who have done good to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil to the resurrection of condemnation. They're going to be raised from the dead to be condemned forever. An eternal, perpetual incarceration. There will be no end to it. No end. This life is the trial for this. This life is where you set the stage for the quality of life when you exit this time frame. That's what that is. So the same thing when you go to Daniel 12. Um, I think it's Daniel 12, chapter 2, or chapter 12. He says the same thing. Uh, let me get there. He threw me off full fifth, but I like it. So he says here, uh Daniel 12, chapter 2, or chapter 12, verse 2. There shall be a time of trouble such as never was since there was a nation, even to that time. And at that time your people shall be delivered, everyone who is not found written in the book. Verse 2. And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, some to shame and everlasting contempt. How do you have shame and everlasting contempt if you're annihilated? You're being raised to it. Now the assumption is they were already dead, hence the need to be raised in order to go through the everlasting contempt. So if they were already annihilated before this happened, how are they brought back to life? And then why would they be why would they be annihilated some kind of way, brought back to life after being annihilated and then judged and condemned only to be annihilated again? When you reason this out, it makes no sense. It's silly. But the word of God is plain. Everlasting, like Lisa says, it means eternal, eternal means everlasting, everlasting means forever, forever means eternal, and so forth. There's no way around this. And all these clowns go around trying to give you some kind of theological survey or philosophical feeling, you know, or some kind of spiritual legislation that they've manufactured in their mind to try to try to judge God Himself and say, this can't be what God meant.
SPEAKER_06:God says he's loving. So he wouldn't do this.
SPEAKER_07:This doesn't fit the crime. Jesus only had to suffer on the cross, but I have to suffer eternity. This is what these people were saying. This is literally what they were saying. Why do I have to perish forever? But he gets away with only having to suffer on the cross for some for a few hours. Whatever the hours were, 12, whatever. I don't want to demand. We know what he was on the cross for, whatever my point is. Christ was on the cross on Friday.
SPEAKER_06:He died on Friday night. He was in the tomb all day Saturday.
SPEAKER_07:He resurrected on Sunday morning. And these people are saying, well, that just doesn't make any sense. Why do I have to be eternally condemned and be tortured in hell with the devil and his angels for all of eternity, but he only had to suffer on the cross for, let's say, 24 hours. 48 hours, whatever you want to say. We know he was on the cross. So whatever the number of hours were, they're going comparing themselves to him. This is the foolishness of this whole idea of annihilation. Because the idea behind it is that that doesn't make sense from a loving God. That's not fair, that's not just. This is what they're saying. Anyone who talks about this annihilation, they appeal to the quality of God's character, and they conclude that his character would not request this, would not make this happen, would not subscribe to this.
SPEAKER_06:That's what they say. They can't defend it, but it feels good. Go ahead, Meg.
SPEAKER_09:And this is the this is the verse I was telling you in Revelation. It says, and the sea gave up the dead which were in it, and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them. Resurrected. There it is. And they were judged, every man according to their works. That's what it talks about in Romans, right? But we know you break the law, that's it. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. Death equals separation from God. That's exactly what that is.
SPEAKER_07:Exactly what it is.
SPEAKER_09:Could you imagine being in hell? Getting rose, being like, oh man, I messed up, and then going back to the lake of fire. Like, I think that God's giving them grace in that moment to be to even to see, oh man. Could you imagine the horror?
SPEAKER_07:Hell, you know, we we have turned. See, here's another thing that happens. You know, this is one of the this is one of the saddest elements about cinema, the movie, TV shows. We've turned, we've turned God's wrath and condemnation into a cartoon. And people, they've lost all sensibility to the impact of these, what the Bible teaches about eternal condemnation, and so it doesn't affect our hearts anymore. We become insensible, we become desensitized. It doesn't have an impact. And so, and when you get enough people who feel that way, you become insulated and comfortable within the framework of that insulated body of people who embrace this foolishness. And you feel like you feel surely this clown that calls himself the Bible provocateur on TikTok, he can't be right when there's so many millions of us who are educated, who have these elevated degrees, and who have this and the other. How can there's no way he or Mariah or Patrox or Folfi or any of these people, Meg, there's no way those few people are right and all of us are wrong. All these people who were preachers in churches, who were deacons in churches, who led ministries, who were evangelists, who witnessed miracles, who read the Bible backwards and covered, backwards in front, you know, every day of their life for, you know, for 75 years. There's no way this guy or you, this woman, or this man, Jeff or Nathan or Pocket or whoever, there's no way they can be right. All of us are wrong. We're all wrong. What about science? We know that there have been some scientific breakthroughs in how we and how we deal with the conscious and the conscience and the id and the ego and the superego and whatnot, all these things. And they got all these ideas.
SPEAKER_06:Philosophical ideas.
SPEAKER_07:What is the earth made of? What is man's soul made of? Is it parts? Is it infinite? Does it die?
SPEAKER_06:Can it live? Can it sleep? You know, I read these things. I'm sure many of you have.
SPEAKER_07:Paul said, I want to know, I want to increase in my knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ, and I want to understand the power of his resurrection. When you believe annihilation, you are denying resurrection. You're denying the justice of God, you're denying the significance of the satisfaction. I love that word, Meg, satisfaction. It has gotten out of Christian, the Christian nomenclature. But it's a powerful word. But when you when you start talking about these, you can't, you cannot, once you have an once you've locked yourself fixedly, once you fixate on an error, what ends up happening is that that error has a domino effect that will roll down throughout the throughout the Bible, and you will find yourself catastrophically at a loss. And when you say that the wicked are just, they don't die, they're annihilated. That's different. Death is different than annihilation. Death is separation from God, which requires your existence. When we read in Mark, it says here in Mark, it says, listen, um, the it says, the fire will never be quenched, and the worm will never die. Man is a dichotomy. He's made up in two parts, flesh and spirit, or flesh and soul, depending on what you're reading and who's writing it. But he's two parts, the inward man and the outward man, the physical man, the spiritual man. Two parts. The fire that is never quenched is the body that was resurrected, and Christ gives you a body, a resurrection that is able to endure eternity. It ain't the body you have now. It is the body you have now, but the body you have now will be raised, whether you're righteous or ungodly, but it will be raised and outfitted, made to endure eternity, whether you are going into glory or whether you're going into gehenna. Here in this life is where you settle accounts with the Lord. It is either glory or gehenna. Plain and simple. Fire that is eternal affects the body. The worm that never dies is the conscience, the inner man. These two things are brought together on resurrection morning, whether you are righteous or whether you are ungodly. Christ is going to bring that body back or that soul back and is going to inhabit that body that was buried in the ground, that was blown out on the ocean, wherever it is, but that all of your personal DNA is coming back together. Raised and then transformed and then outfitted for a life of eternity, either in heaven, or in hell. Glory or gehenna. Which one is it? Annihilation is not on the menu. Purgatory is not on the menu. There's no remediation that allows you to get out of hell because there's no gospel there. There's no Holy Spirit there. No one is preaching to you there. Don't believe this lie that people tell you that Jesus Jesus Christ went into hell to preach to lost people. That's foolishness. Don't believe that nonsense.
SPEAKER_06:Don't believe it.
SPEAKER_07:But the problem that Christianity has today is a lack of discipline when it comes to delving into the Word of God and learning from Him, sitting at His feet. Because when you do with a sincere heart, He will make it make sense to you. He will make it make sense. And we need more people, men and women, who are desirous to grow in the faith and in the knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ. Just so we can deal with those who oppose the gospel and would lead others away from the truth. And we are here on earth to counter that. We are his servants, and we are to do all that we can. And like we talked about last night, and when we have done all that we can, we consider ourselves, we consider ourselves unprofitable servants.
SPEAKER_06:I'm going to close now.
SPEAKER_07:Has so much more to talk about, to go into. And usually when I don't get through it, it's good because that means that we've been having a good discussion along the way. But I'll give everybody their last word for the night for closing, and we'll pick up in Job chapter 7, verse 3, tomorrow. And maybe I'll finish this one out over the next course of the month or so. So, uh, Sister Candy, your last word for tonight before we close.
SPEAKER_03:I'm just gonna say, as we're learning in Job, what does argument prove? And as we've read in Scripture, God says if they want to believe the lie, then He will give them a strong delusion to continue to believe it. Sad as it may be, like Meg read in Revelation, the worst thing. To even try to think would happen is to be called up on judgment day and thinking you're free from that torment that you've already been suffering and have to go back. So to have in someone's mind that it is not everlasting, he tells us that you will be wanting and crying out for him, but he will not hear you. So hear him now while you have a chance. Or keep your ears closed and your fingers stuck in them and deny the truth. When she read that, I don't think I I guess because of where we were talking earlier about people thinking that they were either annihilated or they were risen again and they were gonna be given ever to everlasting life after afterwards, you know? That's a lie. That's not gonna happen. So when she read it, it was like I pictured these people thinking that oh they were they were resurrected to get eternal life now. Oh, these were now they're gonna be annihilated, they don't have to worry about nothing else after this. Negative. No, now you're answering for what you're gonna suffer for the rest of your eternity.
SPEAKER_07:That's right.
SPEAKER_03:Man, that's right.
SPEAKER_07:It's the rest of eternity, and it's not gonna be no joke. No joke at all. Um, brother Petrox, how about you? Last word for tonight, brother.
SPEAKER_01:Well, you you got me thinking about um how thrilling things are when consequences are restrained. Like some people like to go on roller coasters, and it's fun because the consequences are restrained. It's safe. You jump out of an airplane, but you got a parachute, it's fun. And sin in the same way, like drugs are all fun until you become a drug addict. Everybody in this life is trying to avoid the consequences of their sin. And that's what makes sin fun is the avoidance of consequences. I can only imagine being in hell where God no longer restrains those consequences and the wrath. He just like, you like evil? Yeah, here it is. Amen. There it is in full measure. I don't want to be there, and it I just thank you, Lord, for salvation. That's all I want to say. It it's humbling.
SPEAKER_07:Right, and brother, and you know, it's so it's so right. And you know, Christ, he even taught that in Luke 16 that there's a great divide, a great chasm, so that the believers can't go to the other side and the wicked can't come to the other side. Well, if men are annihilated, then what's the chasm for? You know what I mean? What's if they're annihilated, what's the chasm for? But you're right. The thing, the thing, Patriarch, that is so true, and it started when Israel asked for a king. The worst thing that can happen to you is for God to give you what you want. What you want. And that's that's the worst thing that can happen is when He gives you what your will desires and what you are unflinchingly and unwaveringly uh desirous to have. That's what you need, that's what you want. You're gonna get it. You're gonna get it. That's the worst thing that can happen.
SPEAKER_06:Sister Mariah, last word.
SPEAKER_08:I'll just end with just this one scripture where it says, fear not him that can uh destroy the body, but fear him who can destroy both your body and soul in hell. And you know, there there is a reason why God said vengeance is his and he will have his day of wrath. Um, and it's not gonna be nice, it's not gonna be glitz and glam, it's not gonna be a party in hell. It's today is a day of salvation, and seek him why he can be found.
SPEAKER_06:Yep. Amen. Full fifth. Last word, brother.
SPEAKER_04:I just want to say that that was a very great breakdown, brother. Um you you actually said most of what I was actually trying to say earlier, to be honest with you. Um I I was actually getting trying to get to that in the sense of when I'll start with the serpent thing. Um, the serpent is where it starts for all of us, right? We all live in a world of iniquity. Um, we are born into iniquity. Um, and it's important to see that. So the serpent was the understanding of this is where it starts for you, but there's more to come afterwards if you do not accept what I'm trying to give you. Uh I see. You see what I'm trying to say? I was trying to cook, but you cooked, you cooked enough for us.
SPEAKER_07:Oh, so I appreciate it. Well, I hope you weren't mad at me, man. I was just trying to spread it around a little bit. That's all.
SPEAKER_04:I don't know, no, I understood. Look, look, this is a professional live. I love what you're doing, brother, and um I appreciate it.
SPEAKER_07:Oh man, well, I appreciate you too, brother. I want you to keep coming back, man, if you whenever you feel whenever you feel like it. I really do appreciate that. Sister Meg, last word.
SPEAKER_10:Faux fit. I love what you just said. It kind of made me chuckle. You said this is a professional live. Jonathan is so serious when he and he as he should be.
SPEAKER_09:Um, but yeah, I'm glad that you kind of noticed that because we do take the word of God very seriously here. So um Romans chapter 11, verse 22. Behold, therefore, the goodness and severity of God on them which fell, severity, but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness, otherwise, then thou shalt be cut off. He we have to in our walk understand the fear of the Lord. The Bible says that the fear of the Lord is the beginning of all wisdom, and all these verses that we were given before we closed, God loves his children, but he does not play. And to fall into the hands of an Almighty God after rejecting him, woe unto you. I I I couldn't imagine. I couldn't imagine, and so you know, I think it's very good to again be biblically precise when we're speaking about these matters, because if people don't understand and apply what they have learned, then what we're lacking is the true knowledge of God, and that's why John 17 3 says, and this is eternal life, that they may know you, the one true God in Jesus Christ, in whom he has sent. This is what it's about, y'all. It's about knowing God and who he is, and it's the most beautiful thing ever.
SPEAKER_07:So just wanted to add that.
SPEAKER_09:Glory to God.
SPEAKER_07:Brother Cainan, last word for tonight, brother.
SPEAKER_00:All right, I'll try, I'll make it brief. Um, I was doing a little bit of digging while you guys were talking because I tend to look into the history of these types of false teachings and where it may have been introduced. And I found a man uh by the name of Arnobius of Sica from the fourth century, uh, where he clearly and genuinely marks this teaching, annihilationist theory. Um, and then also something interesting, too, uh, are the some of the other heresies or things that he may have uh dabbled in. For example, he's described as idiosyncratic because his ideas were unusual. But then also they say that um unusual claims about the soul that he made uh not naturally immortal, tied to an intermediate origin in that presentation. Um, although he wasn't ever addressed with any ecumenical meetings or uh groups challenging it and calling him a heretic, um, I think it's important and it would behoove us to study the history of where these things come from for us to see what kind of foundation they've even begun in, uh, whether it's in sand or in stone. But um also uh one other quote from Charles Spurgeon just to keep it short. I wanted to talk more about it, but it's okay. Um Charles Spurgeon said this about annihilationism. If I believe that sinners could be annihilated, I should have no particular reason for preaching to them. In fact, I should have a very urgent reason for never doing anything of the kind. And that's my last word.
SPEAKER_07:You must not have you you probably won't you weren't on there yet, but I said the exact same thing. The exact same thing. I if if that was if annihilation were true, I wouldn't be doing this. I wouldn't be doing this at all. I wouldn't be preaching, I wouldn't be sharing the gospel, I wouldn't be leading any kind of Bible studies, I wouldn't be going to church, I wouldn't be doing, I wouldn't be doing any any of this if annihilation was the was was that thing. Because it's you know, who who would who would fear? Who would fear God? You know, so I agree with you, brother, and in uh and uh so I appreciate that. Um brother Jeff, you there? Encourage the service. Yeah, I'm right here. All right, you want to get your last word in and close us out, brother?
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, uh, real quick, I want to say I'm not a fan of Kirk Cameron. No, not necessarily because of this, but because of the fact he was a snot-nosed, very little talent kid when he was on television, in my opinion. And I don't mean that to impugn him. I just that's just my opinion of him. But one thing I will say, Jonathan, this has gone viral, what he had said. And what he's going to have to do, he's going to have to step forward and clarify precisely his position and thinking on this. Because there's people that are not going to follow him anymore until he does. Now, for people like us, if this is what he believes, bye. And if it's not, and he comes back and says, nah, somehow this all got screwed up, that's fine. But let me also add, your teaching on this has been 110% correct tonight. It's not that I've had an issue with. I just it just this whole thing seemed out of character to me for Kirk Cameron. However, it appears he may be in error. And if he is, we've got to pray for him big time. Big time. Because if he is, he's misleading people, but Jonathan, not intentionally, but he's still doing it. You see what I'm saying? No, I don't. He is misleading people. If this is what he believes, he is misleading people. He just doesn't know he's doing it. You don't think he knows? Uh seemingly he doesn't. That's my impression of what I got when I've watched the video. Now I am gonna go back and watch the video again tomorrow, undisturbed.
SPEAKER_07:But see, here's it here's here's the thing for me. To me, I don't even care to me, I don't even care about the video.
SPEAKER_06:Okay.
SPEAKER_07:You know, I don't uh me personally, I I mean, I I cannot believe it because I watched it like three or four times this morning. This this morning. I could I couldn't believe I could not believe what I was hearing.
SPEAKER_05:Right.
SPEAKER_07:And and I was even more shocked that it was coming from him.
SPEAKER_06:Right.
SPEAKER_07:Um even though I had problems, even though I had problems with his that dispensational stuff. But here's what I'm saying. The issue for me in wanting to talk about this is because I knew when I heard that, I knew how widespread this would go.
SPEAKER_06:Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_07:And I wanted to do and I wanted to to talk to uh my brethren that I'm accustomed to talking to, and just addressing it because there's no way I mean you're pretty much gonna be under a rock if you anywhere dealing with Christian content and not and not hear about that somewhere. You know, and uh and so uh to me, it was it was like let me let me let me let me deal with this one tonight, you know, tonight and let it go. But the issue is to deal with the doctrine. With the person, that's not that's not my issue. I agree. But it's the difference for what I want to deal with is the doctrine so that I can make whatever small contribution I possibly can to helping somebody else be able to um defend the truth and to be willing to defend the truth. And and that's that's my whole goal is to just do what I can to um to be fed and to feed others and to and to you know uh encourage people to stand up to it, brother. That's all for me.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, and you did a marvelous job of that tonight, Jonathan. You talked a moment ago about being under the rock. Kirk Cameron is the one who's now under the rock. Okay, he's got to explain himself. And if he doesn't do it, he's gonna lose most of the people who do follow him. See, it's it's he's damned if he does, he's damned if he doesn't. He's gotta do something.
SPEAKER_07:Well, you know, here's gotta do something. Here's the way I look at it. Um, my thing is you're you're right. He will probably lose a lot of people that are following him. Yeah, and that would probably be a good thing because people need to be following the truth of God and following the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
SPEAKER_05:Amen.
SPEAKER_07:You know, because you know, I don't want to be in a situation, I would never want to see myself in a situation where I go make some ground and some grand announcement and proclamation and and and have all these people, you know, be led astray. You know, and uh and because to me, saying something like that, because I've known people in the past, I don't I don't know if anybody knows who Carlton Pearson is, but he did the same thing. And you have a lot of people that came out and they they they started down that path, you know, hell is not real, and and and for some reason that's where they go to. That's their graduation, right? That's their elevation, rejecting the the the the truth of the eternity of of hell. And this is gonna be the downfall of a lot of people, a lot of people.
SPEAKER_05:I agreed.
SPEAKER_07:You know, but but go ahead, brother. Anything else you want to add before you close out?
SPEAKER_05:Go ahead. No, that's it, Jonathan. I was I'm sorry, I was talking to Joni. She's getting ready to start the dishwasher here. Uh anyway, thanks for a uh a very thought-provoking evening. I hope I can speak for everybody on the panel. Uh that hopefully we've addressed this. If you need to further address it, of course, please do. It's your panel and your uh platform. But uh, we really appreciate what you do and we love you. And uh thank you for having the guts to stand up and say what needed to be said and said it the way it needed to be said. Uh yeah, that's for sure, man. You got that right. He's he's got he's got the strength of iron. Let me tell you, you know. All right. Father, we just thank you tonight for the opportunity to gather here, Lord, and to uh discuss the situation. And Father, we just pray your grace over the whole thing, that your truth will always come out on top. Your word will always be revealed. The truth of your word, the power of your word, the magnificence of your word will always be what we are trying to share with people. So, Lord, help us to go out tonight to remember what we've learned here this evening, why we learn it and why we understand it, and to remember that, Father, you are always with us and always walking with us ever we go. We just give you praise and thanks now, Lord, in the mighty and wonderful name of Jesus. And everybody said, Amen. Thanks, brother. All right, man.
SPEAKER_03:Be provoked and continue to be persuaded.
SPEAKER_08:No, it's be provoked and be persuaded, the chef Bible provocator.
SPEAKER_05:Listen up. I uh went through uh and found the company. I I thought I'd lost them. I found the company that made the hat that Jonathan has and what I've got one similar to it. And later on, uh, if you all want to order one, let me know. We'll get them ordered, okay?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and then we're gonna all wear them and be look like the Brady Munch in the panel with that. There you go.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, but everybody will know that we're provoked and persuaded. That's the main thing, you know?
SPEAKER_03:Well, I won't mind to say Chef in training.
SPEAKER_05:Good night. Have a good night.
SPEAKER_03:Love you guys.
SPEAKER_07:Love you too.
SPEAKER_03:Good night.