LIVE: "Dispensationalism Justifies the Crucifixion!" Part 3/4

If you’ve ever heard a pastor casually say “God told me,” tie Ezekiel to 1948, or insist a Third Temple must be rebuilt for prophecy to move forward, we’re going to slow down and ask a hard question: where is that actually in the text? We start with a blunt claim that shapes everything else, Scripture is sufficient. God’s Word thoroughly equips us for every good work, which means Christians are not left hunting for new revelations, secret timelines, or pulpit “words of knowledge” to complete what God has already spoken.

Justin joins us to challenge dispensational assumptions and the common prophecy habit of grabbing Ezekiel 36, Ezekiel 37, and Isaiah 66 and “slapping it” onto modern headlines. We talk about context, Babylonian captivity, Pentecost, and why the New Testament repeatedly frames God’s promise as fulfilled in Christ and extended to Jew and Gentile through the gospel. We also address the pressure language people use today, especially the move to label any anti-Zionist critique as anti-Semitic, and why that rhetorical weapon can shut down honest Bible study and moral clarity.

Then we tackle the Third Temple obsession. We argue Jesus is the final temple, the greater temple, and the only place we need to meet God. From there, we walk through Jesus’ trial, the accusations of kingship and sedition, and why Roman officials repeatedly testify to his innocence. That sets up a serious critique of the dispensational “Plan B” idea: if Jesus came to be an earthly king and was “rejected,” it changes how people imagine the cross, and it even makes the political charge against him sound reasonable. We reject that entirely and call you back to Jesus’ own words, “My kingdom is not of this world.”

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Transcript

Scripture Fully Equips Us

SPEAKER_02 0:00

thing comes when the more complete thing comes when the most when the more perfect thing comes you put away that which was partial we have the word of God that completes everything and all things that God has to say to man there is nothing else he has to say to us that's not in this word of God so if the only if if there's something that needs to be said outside of the word of God then that would imply that what we have in this word of God is not enough. And if you think that what we have in the word of God is not enough you should find another life to participate in. Because we're going to talk about the fact that God is thorough in everything he does. He gave us everything that we need to furnish us for every good work. In fact Paul says that it thoroughly furnishes us the word of God for every good work. Study the scriptures to be approved become a Berean rightly divide the word of truth how many different ways does he have to say it he doesn't say hang on to uh visions and words of knowledge from these fools that are in these pulpits telling people that God is talking to them. He's not talking to them they had too much sugar the night before we have everything we need in the word of God. There is no place else you need to go to find his truth and to hear from him and when it comes to this age of grace that we're that they say we're in right now first of all people have been getting saved since since the beginning people are saved. How? By grace through faith right if we have been if so grace people have been saved by grace anybody who has been saved or is saved was saved by grace.

Prophecy Proof-Texting And 1948

SPEAKER_00 2:03

So the the the notion that there's an age of grace is heretical in and of itself because as long as we have been alive as long as as long as the earth has been in existence we have been living in an age of grace because if we weren't God would have destroyed us in as soon as the fall happened am I lying no not at all brother Justin what do you think and welcome by the way tonight welcome hey thank you for having me on here man I'm so glad uh I'm on my backup page because I uh I was speaking on this topic on my uh on my page the other night I I've been trying to help uh a lot of Christians out of dispensationalism I've been trying to help them with Zionism but uh I basically stitched the video uh Jack Jack Hibbs or Gibbs the pastor and uh he he basically grab he tried to grab Ezekiel 36 Ezekiel 37 Isaiah 668 and he he tried to slap it all to 1948 and uh I stitched the video and I said do you guys ever wonder why these pastors never literally walk you through any of these scriptures they just grab whatever they want and say this is about 1948. Well basically I made a video correcting showing them uh that it had to do with after the Babylonian captivity and then the dual aspect uh of those uh scriptures if you kept reading had to do with what was going on at the day of Pentecost it says the whole house of Israel returns in Acts chapter three it calls them the children of promise but of course uh I'll deal with you know uh christian dispensationalists and they're they're like what is your uh what is your credentials and all this stuff and uh it's just crazy to me because I I could only imagine in the time them walking up to the ones that Jesus picked saying you bunch of peasants where's your credentials at you know what I mean but the reality of what we are facing uh because of this nonsense and uh just to give you guys an idea you probably know um I truly believe uh what they're doing over in the Middle East they're self-sabotaging the petrodollar uh I believe that they're using the Chabad organization uh with the Zionists kind of kind of over here and over there you know that they want to they want to create this third temple they want to take over the Middle East they want to have the greater Israeli project they have been committing some of the worst atrocities if you go through all the history of 1948 all the wars that have gone on over there has been because of the Zionists grabbing more land more land and then over here basically what they want to do is they have created the anti-Semitism so they have operated on both sides. They don't really care about the Jewish people but what they're gonna do they're they're anybody who is anti-Zionist they're just gonna label you as anti-Semitic so what they're trying to do now is pass all these laws and and put it under the Esther project and then they want to yoke everybody to you know uh terrorist sympathizers uh enemies and all this stuff and what Donald Trump has been doing is using government contracts and they have been buying up warehouses all across the United States and instead of using ICE agents for legals which they told people here in the future they want to come after basically everybody who who doesn't fall in line with the Zionist takeover and then of course the Chabad they want to they want to enforce their Noah laws and if you know anything about that idolatry is for anybody who who worships Jesus because to them uh they they they have a war with Christianity so uh Benjamin Netanyahu recently said America's the new new Rome and this time the Jews won't lose so they're doing all of this for this world domination the the the the protocol uh protocols of zion this judeo packs type of world global dominant system is what they want to do and uh it's unfortunate because I I try to tell my friends if you'll just go read the scriptures study them and understand the finish work of Christ and what he actually did it he he meant what he said and it's just about the gospel it's about Jew and Gentile uh coming in through the finish work of Christ through the gospel that's what the olive tree is all about in in Romans chapter 11.

Zionism Claims And Fear Labels

Christ As The Only Temple

Jesus’ Trial And Key Witnesses

Dispensationalism And “Plan B”

SPEAKER_02 6:55

So I'll I'll uh I'll mute myself but I I'm really glad I came across you a lot I'm really glad I came I'm glad you came as well man I really appreciate you brother and the words because you're there everything you're talking about is is there's a lot of truth to it and you know and and I you know and here's the thing a Christian can't be an anti-Semite it's impossible because the Bible says that we are the true Jews Christians Christians not white folks not black folks not the not not the Asians not the Mexican people all people who trust Christ as Lord and Savior we are all the collective Jews we are those who prevail with God and that's what a Jew is people who prevail or people who have power with God we are the true Jews we can't be anti-Semitic it's impossible and so and but you know but I think the reality is as I stated earlier I do believe I do believe that that Christians are going to get handed quite a bit to deal with it's coming. I believe it's definitely coming I don't know if it's gonna be in my lifetime it could but we're gonna see it happen in this country because the the more intense that greed for power and position and and money and all this kind of stuff all these things is it's they need Christians out of the way but what they don't understand is whenever they turn the heat up on Christians they have no idea what they're asking for because when Christians wake up out of their slumber and they always do they fight and they resist with everything they got and they can't and it can't be stopped. And the reason why is because it is God who's working in and through us to bring about his will. America wants to make you think that they have when they made when they when they pronounced uh Israel in 1948 it was us designating them as a nation and so this is America's attempt through Zionism to to get involved with making themselves somehow um contributing to bringing about some kind of prophecy um which the Bible has already said has already been fulfilled they're looking for a third temple well chrold them that he himself was that temple he said destroy this temple destroy this temple not the one behind me you're looking at that one but he says destroy this temple and in three days I'll raise it up and they looked at the temple behind him and he said and he told his disciples I'm not speaking about that one but the but the guys he was talking to they said how are you going that temple has been in building for for 50 years whatever 52 years I think it was and you how are you going to raise it again in three days but Christ told his disciples notice this he told his disciples privately that he was speaking about the temple of his body that is the third temple that is the last and final temple if you take Paul's principle if I tear down if I build up again that which I torn down I make myself a transgressor you you can't build a better greater temple than Christ himself amen you can't build a greater temple than that what temple follows that it's sort of like it's sort of like you know when you when you see these performers on stage you can't have the good you can't have the best act go first because nobody stays for the second act what act is going to top what Christ did at Calvary what temple is going to have more glory in it than the glory that is in Christ? A thing. Nothing nothing is a it is a foolish idea to think that there's going to be another temple built and even if it were like you've heard me say many times even if it were it would not be a temple that God would honor. The Shekinah glory will never enter it there is no sacrifice that can be that can be offered in a new temple that is built with hands of men that God is going to honor and accept the sacrifices it's crazy to think this. Even if they do build it so what? It will be a synagogue of Satan it will be a temple of devils the Holy Spirit will not be there. So all you Christians who are waiting and taking taking solace in the fact that you expect a temple to be rebuilt in Jerusalem as if it's going to do something for you, I don't understand what your thinking is you can't get a better temple than the one that you had been made a part of by trusting in Christ as your Lord and Savior. He is the only temple that we need to worship at and in we get to commune with the Lord God Almighty right here and now we can get off this live right now and go on our knees and walk right into the throne room and talk to our Lord and Savior. Amen I don't need to go to Jerusalem. I don't care about Netanyahu or that nation over there in the piece of dirt over there. I don't care about that I care that I have been cleansed baptized by the Holy Spirit of God I have been cleansed. So of you I don't need any of those things and neither do you neither do you don't let any of these people tell you this stuff is true. You will walk away from this tonight and you will be thinking about it and no doubt one of you are going to be saying or somebody's gonna be saying ah what that guy was saying makes sense but nah I'm still I don't see it that's your prerogative woe unto you I'm telling you what I am telling you tonight is truth. This is the truth it is the truth and I don't get up here at night to tell you things because I'm uncertain as to what I'm gonna say is true. It's either true or it's false and I made a mistake but I didn't you can't tell me it's a lie that there's that there is not going to be a greater temple than Christ himself that I need to look forward to I don't need to look to anything other than my glorified Savior when I shed this skin this tent and when he comes back and he raises this tent from the ground changes it glorifies it and gives me a body like his glorious body I don't need your temple in Jerusalem. I don't need it you can have it but as for me and my brethren here we are all lively stones lively stones that was built upon the foundation of the prophets and the apostles of which Christ is the chief cornerstone that is the temple and that makes us a holy nation a royal priesthood think about this for a second Christ was on trial Christ was on trial and like most trials you have to deal with witnesses just look at some of these witnesses here are the witnesses that oppose Christ the witnesses that spoke against Christ the witnesses whose testimony was used more or less to condemn him to the cross the first one here the first one is there are uh a group of people who were not named but they came before the high priest with these contradictory accusations and none of them could actually agree but here's what they said here's what the here's what this was the principal charge that Caiaphas sort of garnered from all of these unnamed folks he they said well we heard him say that I will destroy this temple made with hands and in three days I'm gonna build another one this was their accusation. Now keep in mind this has nothing to do with insurrection the temple was a Jewish thing it was an ecclesiastical thing. Rome could care less about a temple that they want to rebuild. They could have built 15 temples if they wanted to they didn't care they just wanted them to stay keep them in order but you had a bunch of conflicting witnesses that Caiaphas wanted to hear I will do and they said he's he said I will destroy this temple. I heard him say this and in three days he'll raise it again then you have Caiaphas the high priest himself when he asked to Christ when he asked the Lord and Savior are you the Messiah? Are you the son of God? And then Christ responded by saying you have said so you will see the Son of man seated at the right hand of power and what does Caiaphas say this man speaks blasphemy but that's not insurrection that's not seditious it's not seditious Christ can't lie when he says he's the son of man he can't lie that's who he was that's who he was that was the second one here's the third one the Jewish council the Sanhedrin these religious leaders they concluded that Jesus was guilty of blasphemy and in Matthew 26 66 they said he deserved death for this blasphemy he deserved death for it you know so they they were all over the place but there was nothing that said anything about him trying to overthrow Rome and keep in mind the the seditious and insurrection aspect of it was overthrowing Rome because Israel weren't the governing authority over the land they were under and subjugated to Roman rule and that's what they were expecting their messiah to do to take them out from underneath Roman rule and governance so then you have the accusers that came before Pontius Pilate the chief priests and and the crowds and they were they were saying oh he subverts the nations he refuses to pay taxes to Caesar which was a lie he told them render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's and give to God the things that are God's he never said not to pay taxes to Caesar he never said that anywhere and they say and this was a big one here's where it starts to get into the political charges because subverting the nation not paying taxes and claiming to be king these are all political accusations political accusations that Christ never said he never did anything to subvert the nation never did anything he said my kingdom is not of this world you do you I'll pay your taxes and he told the people you pay your taxes to Caesar but you give to God what belongs to him he told this to to Pilate and then he said he claims to be king he never claimed to be king he never did he never did not in a kingdom not in the sense that would have made Rome threatened he wasn't that and they knew because they they knew because they said that they they knew Rome said that they knew that they delivered up Jesus Christ for what reason anybody remember treason what was that treason no no no no why did they blasphemy jealousy oh jealousy they accused him of blasphemy you're right all those things they accused him of but the Roman officials knew that they delivered up Jesus out of jealousy they the Jews were afraid of his influence they were afraid of his they didn't want him to be too influential because he would have been more powerful than them which he is to this very day because he's God Almighty they delivered him up out of jealousy and then you had the crowds and what did they say crucify him crucify him give us barabbas and now you have witnesses who testified in the favor of Christ starting with the Lord Jesus Christ himself now what did he do? He basically during his trial remained silent he remained silent and so he affirms though that he is the son of God that he is the Messiah he did these things but again this is not treason this isn't seditious or ins an insurrection that he can be accused of by Roman authorities. They heard him say these things they were impressed by his silence but he restrained himself Jesus gave him no answer and it says that the governor was greatly amazed greatly amazed but let's look at what Pilate says he was the Roman judge he was the Roman judge and what did he say I find no fault in him now keep in mind so far all the people that I said before up to this point these were people who testified against Christ they testified against Christ and remember the the thing is and this is what I don't want you to forget because he was crucified his capital crime was sedition overthrowing the government Which is what goes along with him being thought of as an earthly king that was going to muster the forces together to oppose Roman rule. So those who should have been in the position of having reason to justify Christ's condemnation and his crucifixion, it would have been these folks. And it was these folks who were the ones who testified on his behalf, even though he was crucified by their hands. Pilate says about Christ, he says, I find no fault with it with him at all. And he declared Jesus' innocence on multiple occasions. Then you have Herod Antipas. Herod. And he was the regional, the regional ruler, the broader governor. Whereas Herod was in charge of this province, but Herod or Pontius Pilate was approved, was the judge of the province, but Herod was the one for like, he's sort of like the governor. Think of Pontius Pilate, think of him like the mayor. But think of Herod as the governor. That's what it's sort of like. Herod says this I find nothing in him worthy of condemnation. I find nothing in him that we can call him guilty. So what did he do? He sent him back to Pilate because he didn't want to deal with it. He knew Christ was innocent. And he was the one who knew that they delivered Christ up out of jealousy. So he sent him back to Pontius Pilate. And then you have Pilate's wife. She told Pilate, have nothing to do with that righteous man. I have suffered much because of him in a dream. She suffered much because of Christ in a dream. Imagine when the reality hits sinners today. It won't be a dream. It'll be a waking nightmare that will take you into eternity, whereas those who reject Christ will be cast into the lake of fire that burns forever. It won't be a dream. It's real. It's real. And we need to let sinners know this is what is coming. We need to let them know. Next, you have the thief on the cross. He tells the other guy on the cross, you and me, we deserve to be here. We deserve to be here for what we have done. But he says, This man has done nothing wrong. He's done nothing wrong. And then you had the Roman centurion who's sitting right back there. And I'm not sure if he was one of the ones that were doing some doing a lot of things to Christ. I imagine he may have been. I don't know. But he says this this is his testimony. Surely, this was a righteous man. Truly, this was a son of God. So what do we got here? You have those who were outside of the people, the dogs, the heathens, the pagans, these were the ones whose testimony was favorable to the Lord of Christ, the Lord Jesus Christ. They saw no fault in him. The Roman centurion, Herod, Pilate, Pilate's wife, all of these people, the wicked people, they wanted to let him go. It was the quote unquote believers, the Christians, to use today's lingo. They were the ones who wanted him gone. They were the ones. The believers. Going back to dispensationalism. Christ, according to dispensationalism, he came here, his mission, on his first advent, according to that, according to dispensationalism, his mission, Christ that is, was to come here to be an earthly king, like David in the flesh, in Jerusalem, and because he was rejected by the stubbornness of his own people, Schofield and dispensationalists say that he withdrew his offer to rule over them because they rejected him, which makes his withdrawal ridiculous if they rejected him, and that was the reason why he didn't become king. What does the withdrawal mean? What does rescinding the offer mean if you were rejected? You see how silly this is? It's like, you know, you take something away from me that I didn't want, then if I didn't want it, then you taking it away doesn't really do me any good in the first place. I didn't I didn't want it. But here's the thing. The thing is, they said that Jesus Christ came here because he wanted to be an earthly king. And what I'm trying to get you to understand is that if that is true, then their teaching, their doctrine, dispensationalism teaches us that that way of thinking, what they what they held to would have caused them to be right along with those who justified his condemnation. Their teachings, their teaching that Christ came here to be an earthly king, would make Christ guilty and made him uh and it made his crucifixion warranted. Does anybody not understand any connection I'm making there? If you don't, speak up for sure. Because I want to make sure I get this across. Is anybody confused by this? Sister Lisa, does it make any sense?

SPEAKER_03 28:44

Makes perfect sense. Thank you. I I didn't know that. This was one part I did not know.

SPEAKER_02 28:52

I'm challenging every Christian, everybody listening. I'm challenging everybody that's listening. So Floyd says I think it could be better, it could be explained a little better. Price went on trial. When you go to trial, you go because you received an indictment for a crime you've committed. If the crime was insurrection, that means you can't, that means that your crime is you want to overthrow the government, which means you want to get rid of whoever's in power and you want to set yourself up to be king. Okay? You want to be king, which means that you're going to have to go to war against whoever is ruling at that time. And at that time, it was the Roman Empire. Dispensationalism teaches that Christ was came here to do the very thing that he was crucified for doing. Sister Mae, go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 30:04

So what you're saying is that if that's the case, then the people to simplify, it if that's what you're saying, what you're saying is that the the people who believe in dispensationalism today would have been on the side of the Jews and would have went along with the narrative to crucify the Lord Jesus Christ due to the fact that if this charge was brought to them, then the Lord Jesus Christ was guilty, therefore he went to the cross. Amen.

SPEAKER_02 30:44

Amen. The doctrine of dispensationalism agrees with the assessment of the Jews that he came to make himself king. And if he did, if that's what he came here for, if that's what he came here for, his crucifixion was justified. But Christ did not come to set himself up as an earthly king. And you have to understand, his kingdom is different. He himself said, My kingdom is not of this world. It does not come without observation or outward show. If it did, my service would fight. Does that make sense, Floyd? I want to make sure it makes sense because I don't want anybody to leave this without understanding this. Sister Lisa, go ahead.

SPEAKER_03 31:36

Okay. So I believe I understand exactly what you're saying, that um the Jews wanted an earthly king. Scripture teaches us, this is where I get confused with dispensationalism. If you read the scriptures, where did Schofield come up with the idea that it was plan B for Christ to go to the cross since the Jews rejected his earthly kingship? Where would he come up with that assessment? And why would any person who has read the scriptures at all believe that? That's the only thing. I understand what you're saying. I don't even know if some dispensationalists understand that part of it because I can't believe anyone who is a follower of Christ and understands the what Christ did on that cross and what it actually accomplished. I don't believe, I don't, I don't understand how anyone claiming to follow our Lord and Savior could possibly be in agreement with that assessment. You see what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 33:01

I do. And yet they do. And I'll tell you this much. I'll let I'll let other people chime in. But here's what I will tell you. He gets it from nowhere. He pulls it out of the backside. It is no, there's no way to substantiate this claim. There's no way at all. There's no way at no way. And I told you that verse that I gave you, Matthew 4.17, that begins to set up the whole principle, the whole principle foundation for this, for this argument. That the kingdom of that the kingdom of heaven is at hand. He in other words, they they take he takes Matthew 4.17 and says that when Christ says that the kingdom of heaven is at hand, he was offering, that was him offering the kingdom. And then that offering of the kingdom of heaven at hand was therefore rejected by the Jews, so he went to plan B. And you're right, there is nothing in there that indicates it. And see, the re the reality is what I'm hoping that everybody does, don't focus on dispensationalism. Focus on the truth. Because when you when when you understand the truth, dealing with error comes easy. Handle the real stuff, and you will know the fake.

SPEAKER_03 34:13

A lot of people are all they would have to do is go to these teachings of Schofield. And when they see that written, and where their doctrine comes from, where it originates, seems like that would be the red flag to go, whoa, I never knew we started here. I can't believe any Christian would believe Jesus came as an earthly king, but that that failed because the Jews didn't accept him. He wasn't what they were hoping for, so he had to go to the cross. I can't believe if someone tells me that they believe that uh I mean, that's that's craziness to me.

How To Test What You’re Taught

SPEAKER_02 34:59

I challenge, I I'm telling you, I will challenge anybody here listening. Go look it up. Go look it up. You will you will find it. Go get the Schofield Reference Bible, go look it up on Google or whatever you want to look it up. You will find it. I'm telling you, it's easy. This is what dispensationalism teaches. And that's and this is this is their and and they it and they get their systematic understanding, if you want to call it that, from the Schofield Reference Bible. That's where it comes from. It's trans. It's trans. It's not even worth reading. It's not even worth reading. Um, sister uh our brother, uh, I don't know if it was Pat or Meg first, but uh let's just ladies first, Meg and then Pat.

SPEAKER_01 35:46

Okay, so Lisa, where they get that from is, and this is what I've heard dispensational say. So remember in um remember when Jesus said um in Matthew chapter 15, 21 through 28 with the Canaanite woman, he said, I came for the lost sheep of the house of Israel, right? But what they didn't understand, right, they thought that it was just for them. Remember, but then Jesus in John chapter 10 says, I have other sheep that are of this, not of this fold, and I will bring them in, and there will be one flock and one shepherd. So this is where they get that from, thinking that we're the separation of the church and Israel.

SPEAKER_03 36:36

Okay, Meg, but what but I get that part. Okay, I that makes perfect sense. But how do they believe that the cross was plan B? Yes.

SPEAKER_01 36:49

I mean, I would and and and that's where I was gonna say about the stoning of Stephen. Because at the stoning of Stephen was the final rejection of Israel after the stoning of Stephen. But they say that when the Lord Jesus Christ stood up, right, as Stephen was getting stoned, that he was going to come back at that time, but he didn't. That's what they use. When when the Lord Jesus Christ was really just standing for his first martyr. Wow, that is wow.

SPEAKER_02 37:24

Yeah, I mean, look, look, I I believe, you know, the thing about it is I I uh I don't know where to get that from, to be honest with you. Like, I don't know where they come up with this postponement theory and uh all this kind of thing, but I do know this for a fact that it's wrong. And and the idea that Christ came here with an intention.