LIVE: "Dispensationalism Justifies the Crucifixion!" Part 4/4

If Jesus came to launch an earthly throne and got rejected, what does that imply about the cross? We walk straight into that question and show why the “rejected kingdom” storyline of dispensationalism doesn’t just feel shaky, it changes the shape of the gospel. I’m not interested in puzzle-box Christianity or secret-code timelines. I want a plain reading that matches the whole Bible and keeps Christ at the center.

We talk through why Jesus never operates like a politician building an earthly regime, including the confession in Matthew 16 and the way He repeatedly refuses fame on demand. From there we press into what Christ’s kingship actually looks like right now: sovereign rule over His people, not a postponed crown. We also tackle the claim that there’s a separate future inheritance for ethnic Israel, arguing instead for one redeemed people, Jew and Gentile together, sharing one inheritance through faith in the same Savior.

Then we zoom out to the Second Coming. Rather than a literal thousand-year detour with national delegations and a rebuilt earthly order, we focus on what Scripture consistently highlights: a loud, public return, angels, resurrection, the transformation of the living, the glorification of God’s people, and the end of this world as we know it. Along the way, we address biblical hermeneutics head-on, including why systems that require a special interpretive grid can end up imposing meaning instead of receiving it, and how covenant theology reads fulfillment the way the apostles do in places like Acts 2 and Hebrews.

If you care about dispensationalism, covenant theology, Scofield notes, and a gospel-centered view of the kingdom of God, listen through and weigh everything against Scripture. Subscribe, share this with a friend who loves end-times debates, and leave a review with the question you still can’t shake.

Transcript

Dispensationalism And Plan B Claims

SPEAKER_08 0:00

Intention that was the will of his father, and that was that was his will. And that some and that they allow their will to be ended because of the rejection of the Jews. When Christ returns, there's gonna be a whole lot of people who are who are will be alive who are living daily to this day in rejection against Christ. But the reality is there is no rationale that they can gather from scripture that can rat that can justify that. There is nothing in the scripture that teaches this. Nothing. Not even close. Nothing. There's no idea, there's no concept of in the Bible where Christ has two um plans in case one goes wrong. So however that can be worded, there is no possible way to find that anywhere in scripture. Not by Stephen, not by Matthew 17, not by John. You just can't you can't rationalize that argument. Nothing in there makes sense. There's nothing in the scriptures like this at all. And this and so, unless you see, unless you go somewhere where you see where you see, and this is the whole reason why I'm saying Christ never told anybody he was king. He never told anybody that. When you go to Matthew chapter 16, for example, when you go to Matthew 16, when Christ had just had commissioned his his apostles to go out and to witness to other people, he comes back and he asks Peter and the apostles, he goes, Who do men say that I, the Son of Man, am? And they said, some say John the Baptist, some say Elias, others say Jeremiah or the prophet, one of the prophets. And he says to them, Well, who do you say that I am? Peter speaks up amongst all the other apostles and he says, That you are Christ, the Son of the living God. And then Jesus says, Blessed are you, Simon Barjonh, for flesh and blood has not revealed this unto you, but my Father which is in heaven revealed this. This is an important statement here. This is a very important statement because Christ is saying that Peter's confession, which is what the other apostles also agree with, he's saying that that revelation was not told to them by him. He said, I didn't tell you, but blessed are you because my father did tell you. And how many times do we see Christ telling people to go away after he healed them or whatever? And he says, See that you tell no one. It's almost as if he was, he's almost as if he was wanted to make sure that people weren't going out there trying to make this big trying to make this big claim about who he is. And so, you know, Christ, he never went out and he never he never said this. Because if he had said, I am king, I'm going to be king, we need to get together, we need to have some talks, we need to gather the we need to gather the Santahedron and talk about this. We need to see what we're gonna do. Christ rode into town on the fall of a donkey. Not on a horse. He was riding on the back of a donkey. And so, and so dispensationalists to say that he came to be king on earth, a earthly king, which is what they believe. That it was rejected, and therefore that warrants the notion that there is a coming day where he's gonna rule and reign on earth in an earthly sense, they say that's gonna happen because they rejected him before and he's coming back to do it again. Only this time they believe he's gonna be successful, which means that if they believe that he did come to become a king the first time, then his crucifixion was justified by their doctrinal stance. And notice all the ones who were against him were all of those who we would today say they were believers, they were the people who were waiting for him, they were the people who were prepared to worship him, they were the people who had been prepared all their lifetime to embrace him. Today, they would all be Christians, and today, today, these dispensationalists, they they would probably, if somebody came along saying I'm the Messiah and I'm the Christ, they will probably believe it. They'll probably believe it. But Christ is the one who came here not to be an earthly king, but to be the king and ruler and sovereign over and in the hearts of his people. That's how he rules, that's how he reigns today, and we are the ones who will be the recipients of a shared inheritance with him. The Jews were waiting for the fulfillment of an inheritance, of an inheritance that Christ told us that we are heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ. In what? An inheritance. The inheritance. So there's no other inheritance that is set apart for except for Jews in later time to be set up. They will receive an inheritance if they believe just like we do. Christ's church is comprised of Jew and Gentile alike, and all those who trust in Christ, whether they be Jew or Gentile or Gentile, they will inherit the earth and all that Christ and all that belongs to Him. All of us, Jew and Gentile alike. That's not anti-Semitic, that's inclusive of what Christ meant when he said God so loved the world. That was the point in making that statement. My love is for a people without distinction. It's not talking about all people without exception. He has a love that has been shed abroad into the hearts of those people who are not of any particular culture, color, denomination, whatever you want to call it. All that matters is a faithful, believing heart in the Lord Jesus Christ. And that is what salvation is about, and that's the reason why he came to die for sinners. The gospel is not, well, he came to set up a king, but now we have to settle for the cross. But we'll get the we'll get the king part later. You have to listen to how silly this sounds. And I can assure you, when he comes back, it is not going to be to be a king on earthly Jerusalem over there. On that slab of dirt or rock over there in the Middle East. That's not what's going to happen. The Bible tells us nothing other than the fact that when he comes, it is going to be a phenomenal event. It's going to be loud. It's going to have angels involved. It's going to be a resurrection involved. It's going to be the glorification of God's people, Christ's people for whom he died. Those who are living are going to be changed. Those who are in the ground still are going to be resurrected. And we will shall ever be with the Lord. And he's going to destroy this earth as we know it. We are not going to go into a thousand-year, literal thousand-year period that we're going to be sending delegations off to national Israel. That is silliness. Silly. And we need to understand that. We really need to understand that. We'll get into the last words now. And uh again, if there's any anything you want to ask or don't I wasn't able to make clear, forgive me if I didn't make it clear. Um, but I hope that I can, or hope that I did. So I'll start with you, Brother Jeffrey. What do you think? Sister Candy, you there?

SPEAKER_02 8:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 8:27

All right, last word for tonight, sister. What do you think?

SPEAKER_11 8:32

A lot. I think a lot. I think a lot of scripture supports everything against what Schofield's out here about people falsifying about Jesus. Because we know we know he was sent here to reconcile us back to the Father. So I'm just gonna leave it at this. We're gonna take it back to Isaiah, I think it is what 40 43, 22, I think was my little look at 45, 22. Where he says, look, look to Jesus Christ, all ends of the earth and be saved. Because look, here's Jesus on the cross. Look, Jesus is risen. Look to him. Turn to him in faith. This ain't the scripture, but this is what I'm basically what I'm saying off of. You know what I'm saying? At the same time, it's like look to him in faith. Turn from your sins, and he will give you. He will forgive you and transform you, and he will also give you the gift of eternal life.

SPEAKER_08 9:52

That's right. That's all awesome.

SPEAKER_01 10:02

I just really, I just really pray that everybody really heard this teaching tonight. It's really, really good. And like uh Jonathan says, and I mean I always say, go look into these things for yourself. If if you don't receive anything else from it, go and search the scriptures for yourself. Um, but the the mind that you're having to go into them, if it's already something that you want to believe in your own mind and lean on your understanding, you're never gonna find it. Because we're the the word of God calls us not to lean on our own understanding, and we can't, especially when it comes to the word of God. So um let God be true and every man a liar, and uh dispensationalism is a lie from the pit of hell. And I really pray that people truly understand this because it really changes your relationship with the Lord. All of these things, when people say, Oh, it's not salvific, or oh, it's not a big issue. Every single word in this Bible is of God, and every single word is important, and the Lord told us man shall not live on bread and bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth from the mouth of God. And it's just something that we really need to take in and uh rejoice in, actually.

SPEAKER_08 11:17

Amen, sister, sister Vanessa. What do you think? Last word.

SPEAKER_00 11:21

I learned a lot I didn't know tonight.

SPEAKER_08 11:25

I hope it's all good.

SPEAKER_00 11:27

Yeah, there was just things I didn't know, and I especially like when Pet tells his history. I love hearing that stuff because I know nothing about it.

SPEAKER_08 11:34

Yeah, he's good about that.

SPEAKER_00 11:35

Yeah. Um, I don't know what else to say except for, you know, I really enjoyed it and I think that it was great that you've done it. And I just I feel really full right now. So I'm grateful to God.

Why Doctrine Shapes Your Walk

SPEAKER_08 11:51

Amen, sister. And I'm I'm gonna keep I'm gonna keep uh doing these things and uh because it it is it's there are so many things that are in this vein that can really be confusing. So I'm trying to do it in pieces. So um, especially if I do decide to go into revelation at some point in the future, then having this as a backdrop will do will do your souls good if I can do it in in small chunks, um, and then we can reflect back to it later. So um, so just bear with me. I'm gonna try to get as much as I can uh um to clear up so that people can be equipped to handle these kinds of things. And so um I I thank you for your your kind attention, sisters and brothers. Uh brother Pat, go ahead.

SPEAKER_06 12:37

Well, I uh want to praise God for this teaching because uh I've never heard this argument, Jonathan, that you gave tonight. Um you're absolutely right. It's not it's there's a lot of things to not love about dispensationalism, but this is a real central argument. It really is true because if Jesus came to set up an earthly kingdom, then he is guilty of the charges of sedition. And he wasn't falsely charged, and this is a real problem. I love that you approached it from this gospel gospel-centric way. You know me, you know me, Jonathan. When I talk about dispensationalism, I want to tell people about how these people are con artists. I want to talk about you know what I mean, and it's hard for me to even get to the Bible because there's so much baggage involved. I love that you went right to the gospel and you approved it from the scriptures and uh bless you for it, Dan.

SPEAKER_08 13:38

Amen, brother. Thank you for that, brother Pat. I appreciate it. I appreciate that. And I'm still pushing you to do some of these history things because I think I can learn a lot from you, brother, for sure. We all can. Sister Lisa, last word.

SPEAKER_09 13:50

Well, this was uh such an excellent teaching, um, an aspect I never heard of, and I'm grateful to have heard it. Um you can bet I'll be sharing, sharing it. Um I just thank everybody and I pray that anyone who is a follower of dispensational teaching will will have heard you and at the very least research what you've said, research what Schofield says, because if you actually, if you if you hear that, what you just presented tonight, and you still believe in dispensationalism, I don't believe you're a Christian at all. I believe that some people can be deceived, and hopefully um God at some point is gonna bring us all into one accord. I pray for this daily. Um, but sadly, some who claim Jesus don't belong to him. So it is gonna be what it's gonna be. And you know, but thank you. Thank you all, thank you, Sister Meg, for some clarification there. And um, I appreciate everything. I appreciate these teachings every single time. Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_08 15:04

Last what last word for tonight? Anything, give us something. It's our brother DT there.

SPEAKER_05 15:11

Oh, hey, I I just love your enthusiasm, I love your courage. You know, um we can see definitely there's a lot of different problems that we see, uh, even leading into hypergrace uh complications when we start um making uh biblical texts conform to whatever we want or whatever we imagine. Um we we do need strength, we do need to really get into the scripture, we need to really really make this our lives so that we're not caught off guard um and presented with uh wayward uh deviations. Amen, brother.

Reese Shares Suffering And Hope

SPEAKER_08 15:58

Anybody who anybody here who doesn't know who DT is, give him a follow because he talks a lot of good things too, as well. So um definitely um take a look at his profile and listen to some of these he talks about because he's pretty astute when it comes to biblical things, and uh you will definitely learn something from listening to this brother. He's really he's really solid. Uh Sister Reese, I know you've been listening. So uh what's the last word for tonight, sister? I'm so glad to have you here tonight. It's been a while.

SPEAKER_04 16:26

Oh, yo, I just want to say, like, I can't even, you know, when the Holy Spirit gets in you, the words don't don't really do anything justice. I've gone through a really, really um God has taken me out of a situation that I mean he saved my life, and and y'all have been there and just to be here and hear your words tonight and and and hear everyone in here. I just want I I'm so filled with the Holy Spirit that I just don't have words, okay? I just wanted all y'all to know how much I love you, how happy I am to be here. You know, he uh he wrote in on a donkey, right, on Palm Sunday, right? Didn't he do that? Yep, was it a donkey that he wrote in on? And um, you know this this this whole situation in in life is is a dichotomy. It's it's it's ironic and the everything, but you you have a way of putting shit into words, you know. I mean, excuse my language, I get it, I don't think but but you have a way of doing that and and connecting with people and the people that are in here and the people that are listening, like it almost uh you know, I'm not biblically educated, I don't have um really the knowledge of of what you are talking about when you when you go into these details, but what I feel is the Holy Spirit, and I feel the Holy Spirit's so strong in what Christ did for us on the cross, and every time I see you, and every time I see these people in here, and every time I hear you speaking the word and I hear your interpretation of it, I know it's the truth, and I just want to say I love you and thank you because you are my family.

SPEAKER_08 18:34

Yes, we are. Yes, we are, Sister Reese. And and I'm so glad I'm so glad it's it's so funny because a day or two ago I came across uh I saw I saw your profile image somewhere, and I meant I meant to write you, and I didn't, and I got distracted, like I often do, and then you pop up today, and I was just like so blessed.

SPEAKER_04 18:52

Oh, I well, I had to I had to file an order of protection against this crazy guy. Like this like it was crazy. I had to file an order of protection and and and that whole thing was it it the process took a whole week, and you know, my finances have been tough, and everything in everything, every area of life has been tough, right? You know, I've been lonely. Um I've struggled with my weight, I've struggled with my finances, I've struggled with all kinds of things, and even my family situations. Uh, but you know what? I believe that God has a purpose for this suffering, and and I know he does. And my belief in that is stronger than anything, and it led me to here tonight, and you know, it it will believe me, if there's anybody who knows how deep and down you can be, it is me. All right. So I just want y'all to know if anybody else is dealing with with whatever you're dealing with, you know, finances or or family relationships or or um you know health issues or or financial issues, whatever, whatever the issues are, Christ has overcome those issues. He bled on the cross for us. And uh, you know, praise God for you and and everyone who's listening here. I love you guys. You're my family. Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_08 20:28

We love you too, sister. I'm glad you came back, you came back up and and keep coming back whenever you can, okay? Keep coming back, and you're definitely gonna be in my prayers, and we're definitely gonna make sure we include you in our prayer tonight, sister Mariah. Last word.

SPEAKER_10 20:45

I'm gonna try to make it quick because my phone is acting weird. Okay. Um, but when when you're talking and you're saying these things, I can't help but to think about the the free will and how God depends on man in order for his plans to go forth. And I just think that's the craziest thing um or takes to have. And I think that's that's why most people, if you ask them and um are they or you hear them talking about free will and this of whatever, you ask them, are they dispensational, uh dispensationalists, and they say yes, you know, often more oftentimes than not.

SPEAKER_08 21:27

But but let me so you you you bring up a good point, Mariah. So let me ask you this question that whole idea about free will. How do you think that works into what we talked about tonight? Show show show me how how that got into the narrative tonight. Where where is that in the narrative we had tonight we spoke about tonight?

SPEAKER_10 21:49

Um because you said because they rejected him as king, but had they chosen him as king and you know, uh of their free. Will then it the plan would have went forth as they have expected it to God.

Covenant Theology And Reading Scripture

SPEAKER_08 22:05

Amen, sister. Amen. And that's exactly that's exactly what the the the non-denominational section of our Christianity today believe. That everything that they do and everything that pertains to their salvation starts with the exertion of their own will. They determine what happens to them. It is not a work of Christ, it is only a work of Christ if you do something first. And so just like when it comes to what we're talking about tonight, and what you said is right, the application was perfect. In other words, dispensationalism teaches that it was up to the Jews to determine if Christ can be our king. It was their decision. And because they rejected him, he couldn't be our king. And so this adds to the foolishness of these of these whole idea that Christ came to be a king, and then because he got rejected, he was going, oh well, um let's take this let's take um door number two. You know, but good, excellent application. Excellent, because that's exactly what's happening here. It's up to man controls everything, even man controls God. You know, and this is this is why this these teachings are so bad. And when you connect all the, I mean, this is only a small below the surface part of unraveling that whole system. But I could go through the whole Bible and unravel it because they get these these notes are pervasive throughout the word of the throughout the word of God, and it's all wrong. Like the whole Schofield Reference Bible, if you have one, burn it. Because somebody will read it and believe those notes are true. And they're not. Of course, I'm not saying literally burn. I don't want you to burn down your house, but I'm just saying it's garbage. That's what it is. Brother Drew, welcome here, brother. I'm we, you know, we're about to wrap it up, but I'm I'm thinking maybe you you stuck around for a while. I'd love to hear from you.

SPEAKER_03 24:04

Well, I was doing uh I was doing the Matter of Theology live, and um uh Meg had told me that you were talking about dispensationalism tonight, which is funny, um, because I was like, man, I had to schedule that live tonight. Right um because dispensationalism is something that uh I've been looking at just for the I mean the past couple of months. Okay. Because as a 1689 covenant confessional covenant theology, right, I have I do have dispensational friends, but when you look in terms of a system in scripture, you see that God doesn't work through dispensations, right? He clearly works through covenants, yes, and if we are going to split up the one redemptive story of God that speaks through covenants and is unfolding, and now we have to we have to say it is unfolding in through progressively through time, right? Right, when we get to, and I've been doing the study on Hebrews, right? So when we get to Hebrews one, the di I don't know how the dispensationalists can be consistent in their argument when they look at Christ as the final revelation and the one who completes the Old Testament. That's right, right? Because and then the dispensationalist has a problem with the covenant theologian looking and interpreting the Old Testament through the New Testament lens in terms of its fulfillment. That's right. So they have it's and what it really comes down to is its hermeneutical systems, right? And even once there's a guy, Peter Gaiman, who is very big in his teachings on dispensationalism today, and he wrote a book called The Hermeneutics of Dispensationalism, which, and I've told even by covenant theologians, it's a pretty decent book. But at the same time, if I have to impose a specific hermeneutic on scripture in order for my system to make sense, then that means my system is not derived from scripture.

SPEAKER_08 26:38

Amen.

SPEAKER_03 26:39

I'm reading it and imposing it upon the text. And so, I mean, I know I missed the entire discussion, but just in talking about dispensationalism uh just for the past couple of months and looking into it, um, and then just seeing some people on Facebook saying covenant theologians, you know, they ignore half the Bible, and like it's complete foolishness because covenant theologians, we don't we don't ignore the whole Bible, we read it in terms of how God has revealed it to us, and so this especially this idea of reading the New Testament or reading the Old Testament in a New Testament lens, because that's what the apostles did when they're writing scripture. That's right. When when Peter says in Acts 2, referencing the prophecy in Joel, he says, This is that, right? Which means there's no need for me to go back to the prophecy of Joel and try to find some other interpretation for it, it's already fulfilled.

SPEAKER_08 27:42

Yeah, yeah. Tell it, brother, that's the truth. That is the truth.

SPEAKER_03 27:46

And and I mean, even we wouldn't do that with Christ's words, right? When Christ gives a parable, He gives the parable and then he gives the explanation. And we don't, and what and what that means is we then take the explanation, we then look at the parable again, and we read the explanation into the parable so that it then makes more clarifying sense to us. We don't take the parable and still go, I wonder what this means, and hold them as two separate things.

SPEAKER_08 28:19

Right.

SPEAKER_03 28:20

That's not how scripture works.

SPEAKER_08 28:22

No, it doesn't. It doesn't work that way. And this is, you know, but see, I you know, some of the people have been around me long longer than they know, like Lisa, she's heard me say many times that people, I call it Da Vinci Code Christianity. It's like they're always looking for these secret puzzles to unravel and and to these mysteries to open up. And and you know, and when they can't make one out of the Bible make sense, they start telling you that they had a vision and God told them something in a dream. And I was like, no, he didn't tell you anything. There's nothing he's gonna tell you that's not the word of God. And and this is what we need to understand. And and so few people are actually willing to put in that at work. I really believe strongly that every single Christian should be able, every single Christian should be able to preach the gospel even without the New Testament. You should be able to use the Old Testament and defend the Bible, the Word of God, and the truth even if you didn't have the New Testament. Yeah, that's what that's exactly what Paul did. That's exactly what he did. And so, but and so, you know, you have a lot of Christians, they'll they'll be like, well, uh, when they're new, is they'll ask somebody, well, what should I read first? And people will say, Oh, you should read John, oh, you should read Matthew. I'm like, how about start from the beginning? Start from the beginning. Start with Genesis and and read it. There's a reason why this canon was put together the way that it is, and it makes sense. And so, and it's gonna be impossible to even understand covenant theology without the old testament, as you know. You know, that's where it's that's where it starts. And then and then you're gonna be able to know and appreciate what what what the New Testament reveals. You're gonna be able to know that how how much more illustrious it is. But when you look at something, like when you read we we'd be going through Job every night, um, verse by verse. And when you read Job, I mean he he covers almost he covers, I dare say, every doctrine that we that we know as Christians. He comes he covers it in his book. And and so when when you learn these things and then you start reading things in the New Testament, you start siren start going off. And it's just a beautiful thing. Uh, brother Drew, so man, look, uh, you know, you're welcome here anytime, brother. Come back. I know when I saw 1689, I knew what that meant. And that's that's the confessional that I I hold dear, um, the Westminster Confession of Faith. And uh love it. I think it's I think it's uh it's a great uh creed um to follow to sort of encapsulate the great things that we believe and hold true and dear. So thank you, brother, for that. Thank you for that.

SPEAKER_03 30:55

Yeah, absolutely. And you know, going back to what you said about start at the beginning, right?

SPEAKER_08 31:00

Yep, yep.

SPEAKER_03 31:01

Because when you start at the beginning, what do you see? You see the promise of the seed that would come from the woman to crush the head of the serpent, right? And then all throughout scripture is the unraveling of that scarlet thread. You start seeing that promise unfold, and it unfolds through the different covenants that God cuts with other people, with Abraham, with Noah, with David, right? He you see all of that thread, that line that leads straight to Christ, and then Christ as the fulfillment of that promise from Genesis.

Closing Prayer For Discernment

SPEAKER_08 31:36

That's right. It's right on, brother, is right there. Right there. Um Brother Pat, you're up for it. Absolutely. All right, brother. Close this out. And um, and if you would remember uh Reese because she's going through a lot of things and and hope that you know, pray that the Lord will give her that grace um that sustains us all. And um and whatever else is on your heart, brother, let us have it.

SPEAKER_06 32:06

Let's run in prayer. Dear Heavenly Father, we we thank you for the teaching tonight. We come to your throne, Lord, just humbled. We pray that you keep us from deception, Lord. We live in a world of of lies and falsehood, Lord, and the truth and and lies are presented side by side as if they are friends and they can hold hands, as if there's no difference between the two, Lord. So we pray that your spirit fill us, Lord, and give us discernment, Lord, that we can know what is true, Lord, and that we can believe what is true and walk in that truth, Lord. Lord, I want to bring the needs of Sister Reese, Lord, uh, to you. The things that she's going through, her struggles, Lord. I pray that you give her peace and help her with her burdens, Lord. Help carry her through, fill her with your spirit and comfort, God. Build her up, Lord, edify her, I pray, Lord. I pray for each and every one of us in this study, everyone who's hearing, Lord, continue to bless us, Lord. I pray that you give us a tongue that cannot be contested against, Lord. I pray for boldness in the hearts of every single one of these individuals, Lord. I pray that each and every one of the people in this study will use their life to glorify you, and that when the on the day we die, we leave with not a drop of gas left in the tank. We pour ourselves out and we leave nothing. Amen, brother. I pray this in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.

SPEAKER_07 33:51

Amen. Brother Pat, thank you for that. Empty our gas tanks, Lord. Empty the gas tank. Don't leave nothing behind. In the name of Jesus. Amen. Mariah, where's the choir? Are they asleep?

SPEAKER_10 34:05

We have one choir. It's a solo, but I'll take it. Mama, say goodbye.

SPEAKER_02 34:14

Don't leave the choir alone. Hallelujah. Hallelujah.

SPEAKER_07 34:25

Hallelujah. We love you. Hallelujah.

SPEAKER_10 34:32

They said they love you. I have to. She sounds, she probably sounds like more than one, though. She does.

What A Dispensation Really Means

SPEAKER_08 34:45

She does. She has a great voice. She has a great voice. Uh but anyway, uh, and Reese, let me just say one last thing, Reese, because you were asking in the notes about or in the comments about dispensation. So dispensation, the word itself just means age and age. And dispensationalism is the systematic doctrine that teaches that there are seven different dispensations, and in each dispensation, men are saved by a different means. And that is heretical in and of itself. That's the basics. So as we continue to go on, I'm gonna keep taking shots at these doctrines and helping people to understand what they're hearing from people when they when they start talking. But in a nutshell, dispensation is an age, and the whole idea with just like they they will say that we live now in what's called the age of grace or the dispensation of grace.

SPEAKER_06 35:38

Sometimes called the church age, sometimes called that.

SPEAKER_08 35:41

That's right. Sometimes called the church age. It's right, it's absolutely. But but I'll definitely have this post, this, this live posted tomorrow for those who are willing to endure another day of my babbling, but uh it'll be it'll be up there tomorrow.

SPEAKER_06 35:53

Jonathan, can I say one last thing to the study, just because we've been in Job, just to put this into perspective, you guys, we're in the book of Job, which is the oldest book in the Bible. Job lived during the era of Abraham, what's known as the patriarchal era. To put into context how crazy dispensationalism is, this is the fourth dispensation dispensation. This is the fourth way of getting saved by the time we get to Job, according to dispensationalists. The oldest book in the Bible, we've already been through three. We've already been through the age of innocence, the age of conscience, and the and the age of civil government. And we're at the fourth era, which is the age of promise or the patriarchal dispensation. That's how crazy it is. So in the book of Job, the oldest book in the Bible, according to dispensationalists, we're already on our fourth plan of salvation already.

Wrap-Up And Next Study

SPEAKER_08 36:51

Right. Amen. Amen. So uh, you guys, it was a it was a great one. This this one went by so fast. It's like, man, I feel like I can go a long time, but I want to stay married, so I gotta cut it short. But um, but it's a blessing, man. It's a blessing to be here with all of you. And uh and Reese, I'm definitely gonna continue praying for you, and and I'm I'm sure, and I hope everybody else will as well, uh, that things will get better for you. But just know this, you got a family here, and and we're here for a reason. So don't disappear around us. Hang around with us and let us let us love on you a little bit. So God bless you and God bless everybody. Drew, thanks for coming up, brother. And I hope you come back as well because I'd love to hear some more of what you got to say to the likers. Yeah, man. Let's keep it up. And God bless you guys, and I look forward to continuing in Job tomorrow, tomorrow night, Lord willing. God bless you all.

SPEAKER_01 37:41

God bless. Love you guys. Thank you. Love you guys.

SPEAKER_02 37:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 37:45

God bless you.