"Times Are Not Hidden From The Almighty" (Job 24:1-12), Part 3/5

Christians quoting Scripture while defending cruelty is one of the most disorienting sights of our time, and it raises a question we can’t dodge: are we following Jesus or protecting a tribe? We unpack a painful moment where speaking against harming others triggers outrage, name-calling, and the kind of “certainty” that looks a lot like Job’s friends. From there we hold our instincts up against the Sermon on the Mount and ask what “Prince of Peace” living should actually look like when politics, war, and online mobs demand loyalty.

We also dig into biblical discernment and why so many believers feel unprepared to recognize spiritual deception. Matthew 6 becomes our lens: the eye is the lamp of the body, and you can’t serve two masters. That leads into a direct critique of false doctrine, especially dispensationalism and popular end-times claims that can push Christians toward Christian nationalism, Christian Zionism, and uncritical support of violence. We keep it simple: if it’s not in the Bible, it’s not truth, no matter how confident the teacher sounds.

To ground the conversation, we walk through key passages in Romans 2, Romans 9, and Galatians 6 to explain the difference between outward identity and inward reality, and why the “Israel of God” points to those who belong to Christ. Along the way we confront the temptation to idolize America, wrestle with fear for our kids and the future, and return to a steadier motto for dark days: to live is Christ and to die is gain. If you care about careful Bible study, Christian ethics, and staying faithful under pressure, this one is for you. Subscribe, share this with a friend who needs clarity, and leave a review with the question you want us to tackle next.

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:01

And they're they're okay with annihilation of a people in the name of God. Right. And it reminds me a lot of Job's friends who have a lot to say on the matter, and they will fight tooth and nail to prove their point and actually put Job down. I was in a situation just yesterday. I don't know if I even spoke to you about it, Jonathan. I may have. Um for they basically just speaking out against hurting other people. And Christians, my goodness, there is, I understand, what's that saying that they say there's there's uh no hate like Christian love or no love like what is it? How does it go?

SPEAKER_03 0:52

No hate like Christian love, you know, my goodness.

SPEAKER_01 0:56

I how they attack me for being against harming other people and following what Christ taught in the Sermon on the Mount. Jonathan, my mind was blown. I didn't pick sides, I just said how can you stand for take the name of the Prince of Peace who teaches you to turn the other cheek and to walk away and to do all these things, and yet the name calling, oh my goodness. I mean, honestly, hurt my feelings for a minute, how to pray about it, and God took that from me because he was like, no, don't you, don't you worry, because I was like, wow, this is it's gonna get intense for us, brothers and sisters. I I, you know, I pray for our strength and endurance every single day because we're we're gonna need the Lord on this one that's coming up.

Why Bible Reading Builds Discernment

The Eye As The Lamp

SPEAKER_03 1:50

Oh, it's already, it it's it's already, I'm telling you, it's it's already happening. I mean, it's it it's like what's happening in this country right now is beyond the pale. And I'm like, I'm like, I'm like fascinated by it. Fascinated. I'm fascinated by what's happening. Because, and and the reason why is because like you read, like, like even in my study of these notes that I'm putting together that I'm put together for this this thing, uh, for this for tonight. It's like reading this thing and and and and seeing and being aware of what's happening today, here in America, in this 21st century, I'm blown away. And and here's the thing you know, there's there's another big reason for us reading the Bible is so that we have the ability to exercise discernment. Discernment. We're supposed to, when we see things happening in the world, we're supposed to go look at the Bible and go, oh my gosh. This is what Job was talking about. This is what Paul was talking about, this is what David was talking about, and Solomon was talking about. Here it is, all back around again, and Christians, for the most part of us, for the most part, are oblivious because I frankly believe that most Christians don't even know what's in the Bible. I really believe in my heart of hearts, most Christians have no idea what's in the Bible. Very few. And all you gotta do is when you sit around with people with folks, just start talking about the Bible. I can't tell you how many times you mention a certain book in the Bible and people go like, I never heard that before. But this is this is this is where we are right now. Sister Candy, Candy and then Pat.

SPEAKER_00 3:49

So earlier when he was talking about the eye and the light, it made me go to um back in Matthew 6, 22, the eye is the lamp of the body. So when so then if your eye is clear, your whole body will be full of light. But if your eye is bad, your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light that is in you is darkness, then how great is the darkness? But I like the next two verses because he says, No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one, love the other, he'll be devoted to one, or despise the other, because you cannot serve God and what? Wealth. So that you may be the sons of your father who is in heaven, for he causes his son to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.

SPEAKER_03 4:58

Amen.

SPEAKER_00 4:59

Therefore, verse 48 says, Therefore, you are to be perfect as your heavenly father is perfect. He says, Love we love, regardless whether they are what we love them anyway.

False Doctrine And Real World Harm

SPEAKER_03 5:12

Amen. Brother Pat. Go ahead, brother. Whatever you want to say.

SPEAKER_02 5:18

Lisa's got me a little wound up. A little wound up. Uh I just I just want to say this. The other night, two nights ago, you you did a study on dispensationalism. And as expected, there were a lot of people on TikTok that weren't too happy about you having that study. A lot of complaining about that study. Why does he have to be so divisive? Why is he demonizing us like this? Why is he creating problems? You know why? Because false doctrine will cause you to support evil things and even do evil things. Right. False doctrine is causing Christians to support multiple genocides right now. Right now. It's crazy. Right now, yes, in this world. That's false doctrine. So if somebody tries to tell you these are side issues, Jonathan, these are secondary issues. They're secondary issues. You're unaliving people because of this doctrine. All in the name, in the name of God, too.

SPEAKER_03 6:32

Right.

SPEAKER_02 6:32

In the name of that. Oh, yeah, for sure. Absolutely. Thinking you're doing the will of God because I will bless those who bless you, and I will curse those who curse you. Isn't that what we hear? That's what we hear.

SPEAKER_03 6:45

And it's lies.

SPEAKER_02 6:48

Amen, brother.

When America Becomes An Idol

Freedom Of Religion And True Faith

SPEAKER_03 6:50

It's all lies. And so, you know, you read these, like, you know, like I I can't. Like, we're reading Job. We're going through Job. And when I decided on Job, it was for no reason that I had that had to do with what's going on in the world, the world. It just seemed like it flowed right into it. Right into it. But, you know, and people were like, well, you know, because, you know, the American Christian has a tendency to make America God. You know, we as Christians, we have rightfully so, we have to deal with the errors of the Catholic Church and their and their dogma and their religion and their doctrines. And we talk about how they worship Mary. How is that any different than people, than Christians who worship America? I love my country, but I don't worship the flag. I'm sorry, I don't. And I certainly don't worship the president. I worship the Lord Jesus Christ and him alone. And America is supposed to be a country that brags about being a city on a hill. Well, it doesn't look like that right now. We're not a city on a hill. We're a city on a hill, but it's a dung hill. It's a dung hill. And people, Christians, are investing in it. America is not heaven. The president is not our Lord and Savior. And we don't rely on them. You know what happens? They don't realize that they need to be reliant on the Lord Jesus Christ and relying on us. Because the last thing the world needs is for the Christians to finally wake up and start praying against its evil deeds and invoking the Most High to step in on our behalf. And while Christians are running around parading and celebrating us going into other countries and destroying people's lives like those 160 girls that were slain in that school, I don't understand why Christians don't have the where's the outrage over this. Dead people can't repent. We can't preach to dead souls. And so some Christians might look at this as like, well, there's another group of people that we don't have to go out and try to reach. When is life gonna really be serious to us? Instead of all this cheerleader, supporting the belligerent and the oppressors. We need to wake up. I'm serious, and I hate using the expression because it sounds like such a it's in a political ethos, waking up. We we live in a society where we parade this idea of living in a place where we have the freedom of religion. Could you imagine taking the mantra of freedom of religion and taking it back into Moses' day? Could you imagine if Moses and Aaron were telling the people of God that we need to be exercisers or we need to be exercising and promoting the exercising of the freedom of religion when God had commissioned them to do one thing to stamp out idolatry? We live in a society today where we are telling people be grateful that anybody can worship any false god it wants to. That's a bullet point. Think about that for a second. Now I know what it could mean. It could be like, well, I'd rather have freedom of religion than to be than to not be able to be free in my religion. Well, let me tell you one thing, Christians. They can do whatever they want to you, they can't take away your true religion. They can't take away the Holy Spirit from you. They can't take away your faithfulness in Christ. There is nothing they can do to take that away from you. I don't care what country you live in in the world. They can't take that away from you. The true faith in God has always been free. Always. America didn't give me that. That wasn't a right. By the Lord Jesus Christ. He redeemed me and you. He pardoned me and you. He did that. The Constitution didn't give me that. Christ gave me that. Sister Lisa, go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 13:03

Well, I was just gonna say, I think, I think this country is in for a huge, huge, huge surprise. Um, if we look back through the Old Testament and when God's people rebelled, just as we're doing here, he upheld his people, but the ones who rebelled, what had to happen? They had to be brought low, they had to be exiled, they had to be uh destroyed, some of them. And I think that that's going to happen. I cannot believe that Almighty God would excuse the behavior of this country who do these wicked things in his name. Um, we have leaders. Ted Cruz is a big one standing up, and honestly, my stomach turns listening to that man as if he knows the Lord Jesus. It's disgusting to me. And I feel like um I just feel like it's gonna come upon us uh sooner than later. And I trust God Almighty with everything, and if he takes me and I'm in his presence, praise the Lord if he keeps me here so that I can share my strength that I get through him and my faith, um, his will be done. And I I I'm literally with each passing day, I'm preparing myself more and more. And one more thing I'll say with regards to Job and these truths. I've and maybe you guys can ask yourselves these this question too. I have noticed that since I was born again, I mean, my my my conversion is just uh a few years old, just six years old. But the the things that I used to love, and I say material things that I used to love mean absolutely nothing to me. Um, just as an example, it's so it might sound really stupid, but everybody's got to have the latest phone, right? Because it's faster. It's get you know, this and that. My phone is like 3G. I think it's like one up from a flip phone. It holds a charge for about 15 minutes now. And I'm really like my husband's like, Lisa, you need a new phone. And I'm thinking, why do I need a new phone? Why I I really I could care less. I don't talk to anybody. I don't, I'm on here. I have my tablet so I can connect with you guys, but honestly, I'm not on TikTok like I used to be. I don't watch TV anymore. Um, my car, I could I gave it to my daughters. Her car, she's out of a car, so I don't have a car or a phone. So you guys, you know, I'm sitting here, um, and this is it from my social life. And I am I am happier than I've ever been um being with people who love the Lord like I do, you know. That's all I'll say. And I don't know if it's the same for you guys, but none of that stuff means anything to me now.

SPEAKER_03 16:23

It's the same for me, sister. It's the same for me. And I'm glad that whatever airtime you're giving, you're giving it to us. I'm glad you're here with us. I really uh am and appreciate you, as you know. I really, I really do. And we all do. We all do. Brother Rod.

SPEAKER_04 16:41

Yeah, um, sorry, I kind of had a question, but I kind of I yeah, never mind. I I gotta get it again. I'm gonna I'm gonna ask for God to oh no, I'm sorry. I got it. We were what I was saying about the other day, you know. Um it seems like, you know, I wonder why it's like the wicked attacks the vulnerable in a sense, first, and you know what I mean? Because I kind of I'm not scared, right? But and I'm gonna maybe use my daughter a little bit because she's like she doesn't know what's going on. And that kind of feared made me scared because she's like, well, daddy, I you know, I want to graduate, you know, I want to go to college, and you know, and I'm like, um, you know, well, I'm still trying to find it for myself, you know. But I guess that's the part of being, you know, the proper dad in our life and all that stuff. But that's where it gets a little, you know, because at some point, if she, I guess, isn't following the word, not that I'm gonna leave her because I'm still gonna make sure that she gets the word and I'm making sure she's picking up on, you know what I mean? She's if I do, she leaves and does her own walk. You know what I mean? I at least want to instill it in her, you know, raise him up. As they say, that's why I don't I don't want to talk because I don't have the word in front of me to say it correctly. But um it just kind of throws a little bit of nervousness in me because I'm like, well, you know, what is to come? You know what I mean? Like, I don't even know I was talking about the other day with my career and stuff, you know. I want to make sure that I am, if if he does come back, I want to be doing the right thing. You know what I mean? But it's kind of like, how does the wicked people seem like they're running the world? And why doesn't he just end the stage thing? You know, like but again, we can't understand him. But as we sit here and go through, we're enduring it, you know what I mean? I just talked to her late today, and I'll bring a job up. She said, uh, Brother Rodney, obviously, Brother Rodney's just called me, but we didn't have taxes, we didn't have uh what'd you say? Did you work at social services? We didn't have food stamps and all that. And I'm like, well, wow. And that's what happens at work, you know, and that that leads me into a whole nother conversation. And I'm not talking about healthcare anymore. Because I'm like, well, that blow my mind. So what did y'all do? And she said, that's one thing y'all not gonna understand. We just had our work, brother. Which is whatever I said to the other person back in the 20s, you meant that's it. We didn't have a system to go off of, you know. Because I complain about me working and all that stuff. And he's like, Well, I'm gonna go do what you say, because I guess that's what I have to do. You know what I mean? It's kind of like we get boxed in, but we're I'm sorry if I'm going off, but it's just like, what do we do when our autonomy is taken from us? That's what I'm getting at. You know what I mean? Like, how do we lock in with what we were built with if the world is telling us, you know, otherwise.

Dismantling Dispensationalism Claims

Is Israel National Or Spiritual

SPEAKER_03 19:18

Lisa just said it perfectly correct. You trust, you trust, you stay faithful to the Lord no matter what. Right. Because your autonomy could be taken, your life could be taken. This is this is what Christians understand, and what we understand is that to die is gain. And this is what Paul understood. Job understands this. You see what I mean? And so we we have nothing to fear. Since we trust in the Lord Jesus Christ now, we have life now. And we should live as though we should live like people who have life now. You know, and right now we're supposed to be here as servants and warriors in his army, serving him. And the scripture tells us plainly by the words of Christ, the gates of hell shall not prevail against his church. And it shows the picture of the church being on the offensive, not on the defensive. We're supposed to be taking it to them. I got you. We're supposed to be taking it to them. And this is why, you know, I think I told Pat and a few other people before. This is like dispensationalism, non-denominationalism, Pentecostalism. This is my effort and goal in life to do whatever I can to destroy. Because it is, they are all lies, and they have done so much damage to the church and to faith and to the word of God. And so many people believe this nonsense. They believe it. And far more people believe it than we know. But we have to stand up, we have to stand up to the truth and uphold it. And I'm telling you, when we do, nothing can stand before us. So when Brother Pat told me about these people, I don't care about these people. I do not care. I'm going to tell them to the cows come home that these things are lies. They're in and they're not only just bad, egregious lies, they are indefensible. They're indefensible. I don't know how many times I've had to answer people telling me a question when it they'll they'll say, they'll ask me a question. They'll say, um, how can you how can you prove from the scripture that the seven-year tribulation is not real? And I said, it's simple. It's not in the Bible. How do you ask me to prove that something is not there if it's not there to prove that it's not there? If it's not in the word of God, it is not the truth, it's not there. And so all these people preaching all this nonsense, uh, you know, a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem, a lie, a pre tribulation rapture, a lie. Seven years' tribulations. A lie. A thousand years on earth with Christ ruling and reigning in Jerusalem on earth in a glorified body amongst sinful people in their unglorified bodies. A lie. Israel getting a secondary blessing in the world in an extraordinary way over the church. Another lie. It's all lies. We are the holy nation. The believer, whether we be Jew, African, Black, American, Asian, Indian, Chinese, whatever, all people combined, whether they be Jew or Gentile, those of us who believe in the Lord Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior, we are the holy nation. We are the inhabitants of the new Jerusalem, which is above, and according to Galatians 2.24, that is the mother of us all. The city of Jerusalem that is above, not the one that's on that piece of dirt over there in the Middle East. These people are telling Christian, Christians in the other in the world, telling them lies for political expediency. And most of the people that support these lies don't even understand their significance. They don't understand the significance. And my goal is to hit it every single day of my existence. Every day that I can speak. And whatever the Lord has laid on your heart to do and to speak on his behalf, that is what you all should do as well. But one thing that we're not going to do, one thing I'm not going to do, one thing the true Church of Christ is never going to do is to let people get away with telling these stories. With telling these stories. And we cannot be ashamed to do so. And if everybody thinks that it's their responsibility, that it's not their responsibility to speak up for Christ, then nobody's going to end up doing it because everybody's always waiting for somebody else to stick their neck out. But always remember this to live is Christ and to die is gain. And that should be the motto that helps you wade through these dark waters of these dark times. There is nothing they can do to the Christian. We are, like Spurgeon says, we are invincible until the Lord calls us home or until he returns. Outside of that, they can't touch us unless it is his will to do so. Something that Job clearly understands. Clearly understands. Mr. Bailey. Sir. Welcome, sir. What's your thoughts on these we're talking about tonight? What do you think? And welcome, by the way.

SPEAKER_05 24:55

Oh yeah, thank you, man. Appreciate it. Yeah, uh, you brought up some good points and everything. Um, I think I I think I disagree with you one one thing, one thing. That's just a little small thing. Um, it's just about the war in um in Iran. Um and I I I believe that uh the consequences is what's going on in Iran, because even the Bible speaks of this, that if you touch Israel, your your country will turn into rebels. Um I getting this right or am I wrong about that?

SPEAKER_03 25:27

You're wrong.

SPEAKER_05 25:29

Okay. Um, so um you're saying no, hold on. So you say that it's just not a scripture saying that um, you know, you lay your hands on on Israel that your your your wherever you do a lot, it's gonna be as rubbles, rocks.

SPEAKER_03 25:45

Do you have your Bible in front of you?

SPEAKER_05 25:48

I don't know, I have my my phone.

SPEAKER_03 25:50

Do you have your Bible?

SPEAKER_05 25:52

Uh no, sir. I was just hopping on, I was just pressing through and I see your live and I just decided to come in.

SPEAKER_03 25:57

All right, well, I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what, if you will indulge me, um uh d DM me. DM me, um, and and I'll follow you back, and and I'm gonna I'm gonna prove to you why what you're saying is wrong. But I'll but but let me put let me read this to you, and let me read a few verses to you, and then you can tell me how you assess it. Um but I know you don't have your Bible with you, so you might you might need time to do that. But let me just read these for your for your thoughts. Romans chapter 2. Paul says this in verse 28 He is not a Jew, which is one that is outwardly a Jew. Neither is that circumcision which is outward in the flesh. He says, Here's a Jew, and he doesn't say he's a black man, he doesn't say it's white men, he doesn't say it's Middle Eastern men. He says, He is a Jew which is one inwardly, and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter, whose praise is not of men, but of God. Hold that one for a second. Now I'm gonna go to Romans chapter nine, and then it says this Paul says in verse 6, it is not a it is not as though the word of God has taken none effect, which was what was assumed because all Israel wasn't saved according to what Isaiah said would happen, that all it that all Israel would be justified. You and I both know all Israel is not justified or not justified. Judas was from Israel, he wasn't justified. You know, uh there were many wicked men like Jezebel and Ahab, wicked, who perished in their sins. So all Israel wasn't justified. So Paul says, I know what you what you're thinking. So he says, but it is not as though the word of God has taken none effect, for they are not all Israel, which are of Israel, neither because they are the seed of Abraham, are they his children? So even if you are Abraham's seed, which is what you're talking about, even if you're Abraham's seed, Paul says, they are all not his children, just because they are his seed. But in Isaac shall thy seed, singular, be called, referring to Christ, and then in Christ, those who trust in him are in him. So then he says in verse 8, that is, they which are the children of the flesh are not the children of God. What is Paul talking about? He's talking about national, fleshly, carnal, cultural Israel. They which are the children of the flesh, children of Abraham, these are not the children of God. But these, but the children of the promise are counted for seed. And he goes on in in um chapter 11. And he says this. He says, Um, even so, at this present time, there are also a remnant according to the election of grace. Speaking of Israel, that there is a remnant who is who are saved according to the election of grace. And then he says, and if they are elect according to grace, then it is no more of works, otherwise it is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace, otherwise work is no more work. So then he goes and he says, So what but what then? Israel has not obtained that which he seeks for. But, meaning the national Israel did not obtain what it sought for, but the election did obtain it, but the rest were blinded. I'll go to one more place. One more place, and then I'll I'll stop here so we can continue with Job. I think sometimes it's worthwhile to have to um uh you know, speak about these things and respond to somebody. So Paul says in Galatians, God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I into the world. For in Christ, listen to what he says, in Christ, in Christ Jesus, neither circumcision avails anything, nor uncircumcision. In other words, doesn't matter if you are a Jew, doesn't matter if you are a gentile. What does matter is you being a new creature, a new creature. And then he says, as many as walk according to this rule, peace be upon them, and mercy upon the Israel of God. Christians. We Christians are the Israel of God. Israel means people who prevail with God or people that have power with God, and that is all of those who have put their faith in God through Christ Jesus. We are Israel. Second Peter or 1 Peter 2.9, he goes on and he says in 2.9 something that he quotes from Deuteronomy. He quotes from Deuteronomy and he says this about the believer. You are a chosen generation, you are the royal priesthood. Notice this: you are the holy nation, you are the peculiar people that you should show forth the praises of him who has called you out of darkness into this marv marvelous light. So, when you if you reach out to me, brother, if you reach out to me and we talk about it, this is where I'm going to start.

SPEAKER_05 32:23

Right, right. No, yeah, yeah. Um so I'm not a I'm not an Israelite. I'm a Christian. Um I I do understand about the the Gentiles and everything, everybody drafted in. As long as you believe that Christ uh pay for your sins and God rose up from the dead, uh, you shall be saved. I get that part. I'm talking about uh this favor that uh God uh shows to Israel. Not that, not that he favors them like like not like this a favorite, like how should I put it?

SPEAKER_03 32:53

Um let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question. Because if you don't have your Bible, what you're gonna be telling me now is gonna be mostly feeling.

SPEAKER_05 33:01

Oh no, no, no. It's uh no, it's not feeling. Um because it's uh I'm it's not feeling at all. Because uh I know I know that um um Christ for some for some reason God um um you know he favored um uh you know the Jews is what I'm talking about. No, he didn't, but but I think no he doesn't. No, no, but what I'm saying is that not not like in a way where I I get anybody like like I said, anybody that John 3.16, I believe that we all fall into that. Anybody, John 3.16, we all fall into that. But what I'm saying is that, I mean, I I wish I could bring up the the the scripture about um about you know people attacking the Jews.

SPEAKER_03 33:37

Well hold on hold on one second. This is what this why that's why I offered this up to you. You put you put it together. I mean I mean I'm here every night, put it together, we'll talk about it. We'll talk about it. Put your put your put your verses and your arguments together, and let's talk about it. I'm willing to talk about it.

SPEAKER_05 33:54

Okay, we'll do that. And then I want to address one more thing and I'll be um uh you said that the the the war in Iran was unnecessary. I I disagree because I never said that at all.

SPEAKER_03 34:03

I never said that.

SPEAKER_05 34:04

Oh, you said that we sh said something about we shouldn't be there or uh We shouldn't. You know, we should uh Yeah, but you know when you when you're dealing with with evil, uh most most times.

SPEAKER_03 34:16

Let me ask you a question, brother. What evil are you talking about? What what was the evil that was done?

SPEAKER_05 34:20

Right. Okay, so uh do you know anything about uh proxy?

SPEAKER_03 34:23

No, wait, hold hold on, hold on one second. I'm gonna ask you a simple question. What evil did they do?

SPEAKER_05 34:27

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm talking about that. I'm talking about Iraq.

SPEAKER_03 34:30

What was forget about the proxy? Tell me what the evil, what is the evil that they did that warranted us invading them?

SPEAKER_05 34:37

Oh, they're on a live, um, they're on a live many Americans in Iraq. They were in Iraq. They were in Iraq, they were unaliving um Americans in Iraq.

Taking The Debate Offline

SPEAKER_03 34:46

All right, all right. All right, just because of the statistics. I understand. Let's let's let's stop right now because I I don't want to derail the knives. I don't want this to be about you and me. We exclude everybody else from the conversation.

SPEAKER_05 34:57

No, no, no, no. I would just I would just say I would just say that that that the war in and and and Iraq is fighting.

SPEAKER_03 35:02

I understand, I understand, I understand. It's not it's not justifiable, but I understand why you believe it is.

SPEAKER_05 35:07

Well the parents that lost care.

SPEAKER_03 35:10

I get that brother, I brother, I brother Bailey, I get it. I get it. Put your own. It's not. But I'm saying you, I'm I'll I'm willing to listen to you make your case, but just not here, right? Just not here right now. That's all I'm asking. Just not right now. We're talking, we're doing an exposition on Joe, and I want to continue on that. And I understand you want to talk about it. You and me can talk about it offline. And that's what we'll do. I'm willing to do that. You send me a you send me a um you know uh uh a follow or whatever, I'll follow you back and we'll and we'll talk about it. We'll we'll get to it.

SPEAKER_05 35:42

But because I don't because I what I'm trying to mention, that's why I thought it was an open space about it.

SPEAKER_03 35:47

I it is an open space, but we're talking, we're doing an expos an exposition on Jove. So I'm saying.