LIVE DISCUSSION: "The Lord Answers Job" (Job 38), Part 2/5

God finally speaks to Job and it’s not the answer any of us expects. Instead of explaining the “why” of suffering, the Lord confronts Job with a sharper gift: reality. We talk through Job 38 and the danger of confusing knowledge with authority, the way human pride can make us talk about God as if we’re equal to him, and what it means to be corrected for “words without knowledge” without being crushed by shame.

We also sit with a surprising comfort: hearing from God at all. Sometimes we would rather be rebuked than left in silence, because correction can be a sign of love. From “gird up your loins” to the fear of the Lord, we trace how God dignifies Job by engaging him directly, then leads him through creation as a living argument for divine sovereignty. “Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth?” is not God flexing for sport, it’s God restoring proportion.

Then the whirlwind turns practical. God sets boundaries for the sea, restrains chaos, and proves that storms only go as far as he allows. We connect that to Jesus calming the water, to the daily choices we make under pressure, and to the hard question underneath Job’s pain: has any loss changed the fact that God is still on the throne?

If you’ve ever demanded answers from God, this conversation will challenge you and steady you. Subscribe, share this with a friend who’s in a storm, and leave a review telling us: which question from Job 38 stopped you in your tracks?

Transcript

Human Pride Versus God

SPEAKER_07 0:00

To Job, he's appealing to Job and getting him to look at nature and see how God controls all of these things. And he's showing us that we are a part of that nature. But under God, we are just his creations. Like we talked about last night. We are just clay in the potter's hands. Brother Jeffrey, go ahead.

SPEAKER_08 0:24

Jonathan, I think that human nature wants us to believe that we are somehow on a level equal to God if we understand things that God tells us. And nothing could be a bigger lie than that. It's because we understand how the solar system works. Does that mean that we have the power to speak it into existence? Can we uh change, uh call a dead man Lazarus, out of the grave simply by telling him, Lazarus, come forth. Can you and I do that? No. Right. Can we walk on water? No. We know that Jesus did. Does that make us equal to God? Absolutely not. But that's what human nature, apart from God, my brother, does. It makes us want to think just because we understand something, we are equal to God in it, and nothing, nothing, my brother, could be further from the truth. Right. Job is in the process of learning that.

SPEAKER_07 1:28

Right. So, you know, so God he reproves Job, but it's important to understand the words that wording that God uses uses. He says that Job is darkening counsel with words without knowledge. In other words, Job is speaking, not necessarily falsely, but only in that he is speaking ignorantly. So and so he is saying, you are speaking, Job, about things that were too high for you. You're speaking outside of your depth. You're going too far. You went too far in some of the things you said about me. And so, and when you do that, you put yourself in my place. This is a good lesson about speaking about God or and addressing God in such a way that you have not been made aware to know and to understand. And you see you see so many people who have a tendency to speak so far above what they're understanding that they feel they have to fill up every point of space, even in the simplest of conversation, excuse me. So this so what God is telling him, you are outside of your depth, Job. You are speaking far beyond what you what you are speaking far beyond what I taught you. And so you are speaking with words without knowledge. You weren't taught these things. So but yet you are speaking on them as if you're speaking about things as if you understand me, and you don't understand the things that that you need to understand. And God is coming in here to set the record straight with Job. It's not that he's dealing with falsehood on the part of Job. He's dealing with Job's um lack of understanding in what he is speaking about. And this is what he's dealing with. Sister Vanessa, go ahead.

Better Rebuke Than Silence

SPEAKER_02 3:24

Don't you think that Job was just relieved to hear from God, period?

SPEAKER_07 3:28

Oh, oh yeah. I I think that he was like, yeah. I think he was like, I'll take whatever you got.

SPEAKER_02 3:34

Yeah, that's what I'm I'm just like, you know, I know that God questions him and he rebukes him, but it's like, you know, I think Joe, if I was Job, I would be like so relieved just to hear know that God was there because he hadn't heard him from him for so long.

Gird Up Your Loins

SPEAKER_07 3:51

Right. Yeah, I think I think that whatever the whatever the whatever the way in which they've they communicated, uh, I think that because somebody said this a few days ago, that that you get to a point where where you're happy to hear anything than to hear nothing at all. You rather be rebuked by God than to not hear anything from him at all. And we see this in scripture. Reprobation is to be left alone. That's what repro that's that's what the essence of reprobation is, to be left alone by God, allowed to go down your own way, to go down the path that you will go down, that your sin will lead you down. But to be left alone is the worst thing that a person can experience, to be left alone by God. So so it is better to be chastised, to be paternally afflicted, than to be left alone, to grovel in the mire of your own indwelling sin. And so, and I and I think this is a really important thing to be to be gathered here. I think it's a really important thing. So, yeah, you're right, Sister Vanessa. I think that at this point, Job is like, he's like wiped the sweat off his forehead, and and he's he's dealing with it with his friends, he's going like, finally, I get to hear from the Lord. This is what I've been waiting for, to order my cause before him. And yet God lays out his cause before Job, and I think it's it's beautiful. And so he tells him to gird up his loins, and that that means Job, get serious, prepare yourself, prepare yourself and to submit to me in humble submission, and I want you to consider the things that I'm about to say to you. And so this is what he's saying. He he he's and and just think imagine after all he has been going through, him sitting down in the in the dust, scraping his boils with broken pieces of pottery, and then God tells him to gird up his loins. It's almost as if he's saying, Okay, get ready, because we're getting ready to go somewhere. We're getting ready to we're getting ready to go to do something. He's his his the fact that God has has has reinserted himself into Job's life at this particular critical point in a powerful way, it has to stir Joe's heart up in so many different ways that we probably won't understand until we get to uh until we get to go to glory. But Job is called to prepare himself like a man to be questioned by God. And so what what we see here is that that God, in addressing Job at all, because notice, he only addresses Job. He doesn't address anyone else, he addresses Job in terms of what he's about to teach and convey. And what God does is that he dignifies Job. He he dignifies Job simply by his engaging of him. And he's not dismissing Job. But it's almost like, you know, it's you know you know how you see in these movies where, you know, uh, you know, a guy or a girl sitting in a s in a s in a in a restaurant or a bar or sitting on the beach or wherever they may be, and somebody that that comes along that they hadn't seen before, and they just they catch each other's eyes and they are just struck with the with with each other, smitten is is the word. And I think that in a lot of ways, this is how Job it gets, I think this is how God appears to Job in a lot of ways. It's like, man, I I get to see him and and I get to hear from him, I get to hear his word again. I'm I've been starving and I need to hear from my God. So but but God, by his, just by him speaking to him, just by him speaking to him, it it raises up his level of honor, Job's honor. God dignifies him. So imagine it also in another way. Let's imagine you go somewhere to hear, like let's say to hear a a somebody powerful and rich and powerful and political or celebrity, whatever, and you're going somewhere to listen to them speak. And for whatever reason, everybody's there to see this person speak. But they zoom in on you. They zoom in on you for whatever reason. And this is what's happening with Job. God is looking at me. God is here, and he's here for me. He's asking me to gird up my loins. That means we're about to go on take a ride. And I think it's just a beautiful thing. Sister May, go ahead. You're gonna say something.

SPEAKER_05 8:29

Yeah, so I'm I'm I got I got a Bible and the Septuagint in front of me, and boy, it's just fire. But in verse three, when it says, he says, gird up your loins like a man, for and this is out of Septuagint. It says, For I shall ask and you shall answer me. Right. It's just this commanding of I'm here, I'm gonna ask you, and you are gonna answer me. This is just the way that God is, yep. Um, in the way that he's responding. And so I you get why Job's like ready to put his hand over his mouth because I mean, could you imagine? It's like to me, like what I'm picturing, even in this moment. Could you imagine just like us leaving this earth and opening our eyes in the presence of the Almighty God?

SPEAKER_09 9:21

Right.

SPEAKER_05 9:21

And the only and see, this is this is where I compare the fear of the Lord to, because when somebody's afraid, you're gonna pause, either you're gonna fight or fly. Right. But it's the same response when you have the reverence of the Lord, when you are reverencing the Lord. I I'm sure Job is in this position right now because I know I would be, where he's not even moving. I would not move one inch. I don't even think we could at that point. You know what I mean? It's like the fear of the Lord is just coming over me so much when I'm reading this. Right, this is amazing. And it's beautiful to for me to experience this for myself to remind us that the fear of the Lord really is the beginning of wisdom, and everything else fades away. And him and him alone is what we're focused on, and it makes you freeze. Just like if you're scared in real life, it's gonna make you freeze. Right. It's the same thing with the reverence for the Lord. So it's fire.

SPEAKER_07 10:29

Yeah, we get that here. We get you get you're right about that. Uh, Sister Mariah and then Jeffrey.

SPEAKER_06 10:38

Uh what I well, what I was going to say, you already said it um basically about how um to Sister Vanessa's point and Sister Lisa's point about how it we rather hear from God even in this circumstance, but it says that those whom he loves, he chat uh chastise, right? Or he chastens. And so we would rather to know that we are being rebuked or corrected by the Lord because we know that he loves us. We're not ill illegitimate children, you know? So that that overruns and takes the height of everything, puts the cherry on the cake and all of this. So you already said it, but yeah, it's it's good.

Job As God’s Statement

SPEAKER_07 11:21

No, I think it's good. I mean, hearing these things over and over again is what we do for the rest of our lives as long as we're in this flesh. So no, it's good to repeat it. It's very good to repeat it. Brother Rodney, go ahead. I'm sorry, Jeffrey and then Rodney.

SPEAKER_08 11:35

Jonathan, as we're beginning to look at this and God's responses to Job, Jonathan, my thinking goes back to chapters one and two of Job, where God and Satan are having this conversation. And Jonathan, I'm beginning to think a little bit of this anyway, isn't necessarily about just what happened to Job and his response to God and God's response to him. It's the fact that God seems to me in all of this to be making a statement to the devil. Now we gotta remember this the book of Jesus is one of the earliest books of the Old Testament. Okay. He is making a statement to the devil. Okay, you want to see what a man, a man of mind is still capable of doing when I am faithful to him? Okay, you do to him up to this point what you will. God permits it. We know the story. He comes back again and says, Yeah, yeah, blah, blah. Let me do more to him. Okay, do any what you want. Don't you take his life. Okay, he does that. And yet, Job, in spite of all of that, three worthless friends who aren't worth the skin flint that they're in, and then Elihu, who does everything they all do to Job, what they do. Job remains faithful. Yes, he has 10,000 questions for God, and God answers him with 10,000 questions of his own. But nevertheless, Jonathan, Job is faithful through all of that. God makes a statement to the devil look, you hit him with everything you got, everything you had, and he is still my man, faithful to me. Deal with that, devil. Amen. That's the statement he made to him. At least that's my thought on it.

SPEAKER_07 13:27

Amen. That's a good thought. Brother Rodney and then Sean.

God In The Whirlwind

SPEAKER_04 13:31

Yeah, I just um, just like I said in there, you know, um, it just came to me about, uh think, because I was look, I studied a little bit earlier, but I had got a quick reference call to Exodus um 314, where God actually defines Himself and He just says, I am who I am, is literally defining who He is. So simply as I said, you know, Job, you know, he's not you're not more sovereign than the storm, you know. You don't control the air, you know, I do, because it's just like we we know that, you know, God's not really bullying you in a sense, you know what I mean? It's just it's just beautiful to me because everything, it's just no question. He's it's nothing negative, you know what I mean? It's right, it's not bullying you, he's he's researching you, he's recalibling you, you know. Um, because we know Joe has been like, even what Brother Jonathan just said about you know the response to the devil, Joe's been buried under the grief of his friends, you know, accusations, and I don't know where this coming from, but I'm gonna credit the Holy Spirit because it just can't say um you know, it's confusion and self-defense, you know, he's just been going through it. And God's the just the speaking of out of the whirlwind is the other fact I want to make. Just the word, the words, you know, he just did the word whirlwind, it wasn't like a calm breeze or anything, you know. I'm learning to use a certain language for me. I guess this is my first introduction into that. Because the word whirlwind stuck out to me, you know. It's not like he just came out of a calm breeze, you know. He showed up in the chaos, which I'm also learning.

SPEAKER_07 15:02

Oh, okay. I love that.

SPEAKER_04 15:03

I love that. If I can say this really quick, as I'm riding down the road this weekend, and the GPS never responds until it needs to, if you notice that, you know. And when I got to a certain part of DC and it said for 95 miles, continue straight. I said, Jesus Christ, you know, but okay, and then next thing I know, I'm assuming that there must have been an accident or something because it rerouted me, but I didn't hear a voice, I didn't hear anything. And I'm thinking to myself, but why is it rerouuting me? You know, maybe I'm I I want to go this way, you know, but that's just something, you know, this God's stepping in in the chaos, you know, because in my thoughts.

SPEAKER_07 15:38

And I think that I think that's the I think that's the best statement you made out of everything you just said just now, because that is uh uh uh profound in in a lot of ways. But you you know, Job's life, from the time that he started losing everything, his life was literally in chaos. Literally in chaos. So I think that what you're saying is very, is very is very profound because it's almost as if God is showing Job that even in this whirlwind, that God himself is the stable force behind it all. And it may look like chaotic, it may look chaotic, it may look like this, whatever, but God is in the storm. He's in it. And so, and this is where, this is where I think this is what Job is going to, this is the lesson he's gonna learn uh in these in these words. Um, Sister Sean, and then I'll go to verse four.

SPEAKER_01 16:39

Oh, yeah, I was just thinking about, you know, verse three and saying, gird up thy lords like a man, and reminded me of, you know, God knows that Job is physically weak, but he's telling Job to gird up your mind. I'm gonna strengthen your mind, and I'm gonna take you on this history lesson. Because, like, there's no point. The question, the initial question was why that God does not address the suffering. And the way I see it is um he doesn't have to. Because if he was to say, Well, I decided to test you, then it would just raise more questions. Why don't I just give you what you really want, and that's me? So this history lesson, right? And I'm just gonna take you back to the beginning.

Where Were You At Creation

SPEAKER_07 17:21

Excellent. Love that. I think it's true. He's taking him, you're right, he's taking him to back to basics, is what he's doing. You're right. Absolutely right. So in verse four, God says to Job, he says, Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? Declare if you have understanding. Who has laid the measures thereof? If you know, or who has stretched the line upon it? Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? Or who laid the cornerstone thereof? When the morning stars sang together and all the sons of God shouted for joy. You know, he's asking Job, what do you know about these things? What do you know about these things? But one of the first things that he points out, one of the first insights that I sort of got out of this was that uh the way God is making his case of Job, he is show he's showing that knowledge about lofty things has to be linked to participation. And he he's like with Job, where were you? If you know anything about these things, please tell me. I want to hear it. Tell me what what it is. How do you explain these things? And this is this is so so so true, because he's like telling Job, you don't understand this, you don't understand these things, but yet you're speaking as one who feels that you're in a position to judge the way I handle and govern this world. But you don't understand. But he gives them a chance. If you think you know Job, let's hear it. Let's hear it. And so God begins here by pointing to creation itself. He points to creation itself. And notice, he doesn't just go in on Job in this vicious attack. He, you know, he he he he takes his he he steers his attention his attention uh to creation itself. He doesn't tell Job, look at yourself. Look at your pathetic. He doesn't tell Job, you need to examine your he's telling Job, he goes, let me explain these things to you in creation. But he doesn't he doesn't he doesn't belittle Job in any kind of way. He's he's lifting his, he's starting to lift Job up. And sometimes in order to be lifted up, we need to be humbled. Whoever shall be uh abased will be raised up, and whoever uh is raises himself up will be abased. And I think Job is in this situation where God has to put him down a little bit in order to elevate him again. So the question here God is asking, the question is that he's asking Job, what are they meant to do? They're meant to humble Job and to raise his understanding, to take away the ignorance that darkened the Lord's counsel. So now God is filling in the blanks for Job. He's telling him what he needs to know. And so, and and this this passage is so good. And God is telling him, Job, you weren't you weren't here at creation. You can't possibly understand how the world was was made and how it was ordered. And he uses the imagery of measuring and found laying foundations, and he shows that creation was done with wisdom and listen and by design. There are so many people, even Christians, who doubt that the earth was created, that it was organized, that it was a tapestry that was carefully woven and put together by God. It wasn't happenstance, it wasn't chance, it wasn't a big boom or a big bang. It was nothing like that. God is telling Job, I ordered all these things. And he uses, he uses the speak of using measuring tools and art and tools that are used to create some artifice of some sort. That's what the earth was and all he what he what he created. And Job, God is saying, this is done, this earth, all creation, all of it is by intelligent design. And God is using poetic language. He's not trying to deal with scientific elements, he's not dealing with that. But what he is dealing with is counteracting the perspective that so called scientific. science today is is is is spouting, which is that the earth is not by intelligent intelligent design. And it's crazy that people argue this. They'd have these debates. Like being a Christian, I'm never going to have a debate with somebody about intelligent design, design versus science. It's like if you if you're if you want to be that stupid and say that the earth was not created by God, was not designed by the the the the creator of this universe, there's no conversation to be had. Because the only answer that I can give a person is look around. Look at the sky. Look at the moon look at the stars. If you think that's an accident, then we cannot have there's no conversation to be had. And Job is being is shown by told by God himself. The morning stars and the sons of God are likely referring to the angels you know um to the angels no doubt. But the point is clear that if Job does not understand the foundations of the earth how can he fully understand God's providence in it? And this is what God is asking him. If you can explain all this I like to hear it. And of course Job is left dumb in this in this manner and and speechless.

SPEAKER_03 23:18

Anyone else want to comment before I move on to verse eight I will go at least I just want to say this is what I think is so beautiful about the Lord is that he doesn't shame Job and make him feel less than he's reminding Job of who he is and then who Job is in comparison to him. And and it's it's a lesson we all can learn and it's so beautifully done. And I honestly I feel I feel God's love in this honestly I feel oh yeah. Because even we uh you know well I can't compare humans to to the Lord it's just when we teach our children a lesson we do it out of love but I truly truly feel um God's love and I feel job feels it as well. You know what I mean?

The Sea Stops Where God Says

SPEAKER_07 24:17

Oh yeah we we we're watching we're watching a true relationship we're we're watching what a true relationship looks like you know with with God. And we're and we think about it, you know God has his words and his questions for Job but you're right if you don't sense the love of God for this man in this, I don't know what to tell you because he's he he could not be speaking to Job in a more paternal way, in a more fatherly way than he's doing right now. And you know and and you know just having all these questions to ask that he's asking Job it also reminds me of all the questions that the Lord Jesus Christ asked people when he was here on earth. His questions ended up being the very answers to the questions that were being asked. And and so and and because what he would do is he would guide your mind by these questions he would guide your mind as you start contemplating what the answer must be because when Christ asked a question he assumes that you know the answer and he doesn't just assume it he knows you know the answer. That's why a lot of these pharisaic people they'd be like oh well that's enough I'm gonna I'm gonna turn around and leave and go home I I don't want to deal with that question. I don't want to answer that because it's gonna it's gonna ratify the very points that his questions rhetorically are intended to make and I'm not going to admit it. But it shows the wisdom of God and we see consistency with Christ asking those questions in the New Testament and with and with God speaking to Job asking him these questions and no doubt he's talking to the Lord Jesus Christ himself no doubt about it. No doubt. So in verse 8 he goes on he says or or I didn't I didn't I should have read it in connection but um when the morning star was saying together and all the sons of God shout out for joy or who shut up the sea with doors when it break forth as it had issued out of the womb when I made the cloud the garment thereof in thick darkness a swaddling band for it and broke up for it my decreed place and set bars and doors and said hitherto shall you come but no further and here shall thy pride waves be stayed. Does anyone want to grant render uh give an assessment as to what he's talking about here? I know it's a lot of tough language I'm reading I read out of the King James but can anybody tell me what they think this is what this is what God is talking about here?

SPEAKER_02 26:55

In Job 38 8 through 11 I kind of think that he's talking about the sea and how everything in the sea is made with him too and he did it all and nobody can shut it up but him you know nobody can dry up the sea nobody can do anything except him that's right yep that's my stab.

SPEAKER_04 27:17

Brother Rodney go ahead yeah I'm just leaving Sister Vanessa yes amen. Yeah literally that it's another example of him showing that he again controls the chaos like how can you ever think that anything that his friends put him through was you know more powerful than me so it's kind of like that last table that conversation the last person I put not putting God at the end like that but you know not to bring him down but you know it's kind of like that in a sense he showed up last and when I showed up last but it's different this time I'm not changing my answer based on what everybody else said I'm coming with the true glory the true power to show you that I am in control of the water you know the enemy may rage everybody everything may go crazy but even still I'm the last answer. So Amen.

SPEAKER_08 28:06

Amen brother uh Jeffrey and then Mariah yeah God is saying here I have created all of this you see it and it goes no further than what I tell it to it goes where I tell it to that's as far as it goes. That's it God is and that's it exactly and and job here is speechless he is left speechless there there is no way he can answer God as to the questions God is asking Job. It's just Job has to just sit now and listen. For 37 chapters he has already been questioning God why now God is answering him above and beyond any way possible Jonathan that Job could possibly answer. All he can do is sit and listen or stand and listen to what God has to say. That's all he can do.

SPEAKER_06 29:07

Amen brother sister Mariah go ahead it kind of reminds me of how like sometimes the Lord refers to like man as like the sea and and things of that nature and how um you know there are there are doors on how far we can go and it's only God by the grace of God that he allows us to go past which is you know onto unto eternal life or not and and so um I I think of it that way um as well as what Jeffrey just said.

SPEAKER_07 29:47

Amen.

SPEAKER_02 29:48

Sister Vanessa I just wanted to add one thing it reminds me of when Jesus was on the water and the you know he was asleep and they woke him up in the boat because there was a storm you know and what did he do? He just calmed the sea. Calmed it so yeah just calm.

SPEAKER_07 30:07

Good point good point.

SPEAKER_01 30:10

Sister Sean I I think it speaks to Job's situation he he describes the sea as something wild and chaotic and then he says he uses the word garment and swaddling he's it's like he brought this into existence and then he gently restrained it. Yep and it's like he's a father. He he truly is a father.

Hard Choices In The Chaos

SPEAKER_07 30:33

Right. So so sh so sh uh I'm gonna come back to that in a second. So hold on to that sister Sean I'm gonna come back to y'all Rodney what were you gonna say brother?

SPEAKER_04 30:42

I actually had a question and I guess anybody can take the answer. Um I won't I'm I'm sorry I won't bore you guys with this weekend but literally I was I made a post because I'm like you know we take sometimes we take a lot of things in life really serious overly serious right and this was their wedding day right and so the chaos to the point we're talking about I was asked to take the drone down which I was authorized by the bride and the groom you know to to capture the shot you know what I mean and you know I get it you know people don't want to be seen privacy I get all of that stuff right the chaos I was told to bring it down but then later on the event coordinator and the bride and groom asked me to to get a certain shot and so now I'm at I'm at odds with myself in a sense because I'm like well here I am you know I don't want to get in trouble but I also want to appease to the client so in my posts I said well God it could only be you because you know here we are again and I was also you know I was told to take it down or of course you know authorities would be called they went they went all the way there um and I just said hey man look God have my back man and the bride and groom they want me to get the send off and I'm gonna do what they say you know right right if I if I unfortunately face authorities I guess I have to deal with it when they get here but so I'm asking my question is like how how does one you know deal with that situation? Was I right to kind of put that on the Lord? I'm not necessarily you know what I mean I guess I'm not I don't want to conf confuse it, but that's my question. Was I right or was I wrong to go against the park or go against the world's rules of privacy to appease my my client. Not really my desire you know what I mean chaotic moment I guess I'm trying to kind of relate it to what we're talking about.

SPEAKER_07 32:38

Well I think that what I think that in in all situations we should seek God's direction in these in these matters and I think that when we do uh I think that God is is is is is prepared is ready to give us an answer to how to deal with these kind of things it is hard for me to know not in that profession um about the about the the uh arrangements but I think that you I I would venture a guess that you probably know what the answer is about this. Um I don't I don't really know but you know that's particular things but I'll I'll come back to that with you. I just wanted to throw that out it was on my it was on my heart really quick on the top right I don't I don't want to lose my thought here but but um but I I definitely I would definitely address this with you. We'll talk about it. Brother Jeffrey and then Candy.

SPEAKER_08 33:24

Hi Jonathan let me throw another question out here to you and to the panel. As we go through this and begin God's response do you kind of get the sense that God is saying to Job yes all of these terrible things have happened to you they are terrible they are horrible they are awful but Job has it changed the fact that I'm still God has it changed the fact I'm still on the throne right yep you've lost everything you're sitting out here in the field scraping the boils with a piece of broken pottery but has it changed the fact I'm still your God has it removed me from the throne I'm still here right so who are you then Job to question me and how and why I do what I do when, where and how the way I do it. And I think if we take that another step further my brother do we not have to sometimes ask ourselves that very question because for Jeffrey I have to tell you I've got to ask myself that question a lot who is God and who's the servant and remind myself of how that works.

SPEAKER_07 34:45

Right. Amen Sister Candy and then I want to go back to Sean and then I'm gonna get back to the next verses and Mariah as well.

SPEAKER_00 34:54

Sister Candy go ahead yeah I was just looking in in Proverbs he says wait that's Psalms in Proverbs he says when he set the sea for its boundaries so that the water would not transgress his command when he marked out the foundations of the world and then in Psalms it was like you set a boundary that they may not pass over so that they will not return to cover the earth and in Jeremiah speaks where it's about basically do you not fear me declares the Lord do you not tremble in my presence for I have placed the sand as a boundary for the sea an eternal decree so it cannot cross over. Though the waves toss yet they cannot prevail though they roar yet they cannot cross over it so it's setting those boundaries that he has set for no matter what it is like he tells us he he makes a way out for everything that we go through.

SPEAKER_07 35:54

So so okay so let me let me let me address something with you. So then how how how do you think Job might have taken this