Superabounding Grace Over Sin (Rom 5:17-21), Part 2/3

The question nobody asks calmly is the one we start with: what happens to babies and children who die before they can “understand”? We walk through Romans 5, original sin, and the uncomfortable claim that death passes to all in Adam, while also admitting something many people avoid saying out loud, God may show mercy in ways He has not disclosed. That tension forces us to hold two truths at once: Scripture speaks clearly about our condition in Adam, and Scripture also teaches that some answers belong to the Lord.

From there we turn to the best news we’ve got: Christ’s obedience. We dig into imputed righteousness, using a simple “accounting ledger” picture to show why justification is not only the removal of guilt but also the crediting of Christ’s righteousness to believers. That’s why we push back so hard on the idea that salvation can be lost. If Christ pays the debt and then credits righteousness, the verdict over God’s people is not fragile. It’s permanent.

We also address the “God is unfair” objection, predestination and election, and what the Bible means when it says God shows no partiality. We talk through the “age of accountability” debate, why it raises real moral questions, and why we believe the law exposes sin rather than saving anyone. If you’ve ever felt shaken by these doctrines, we think this conversation will meet you where you are while pointing you back to the cross.

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Original Sin And Infant Death

SPEAKER_05 0:00

What happens to children or people that didn't know? The thing is, when Adam sinned, death passed upon all, so that all have sinned. This is what we need to understand. No one is born guilt-free. No one. No one. And so we need to understand that. How God exercises his mercy in areas that we may not know or understand or have not been disclosed, such as what happens to babe children that die in infancy, for example. We, you know, we want to believe, and it's very well possible, that there's there's a special way that God deals with with people with children like that. We don't know what it is. It has not been disclosed. We don't know what it is. I have a leaning that there is a a special dealing that God deals with these, with these, with these children, for example. But what I will say, what I can confirm, what Paul uh perfectly lays out here in this chapter, is that death has passed upon all of mankind. Regardless of age, whether you live, whether you live one month, whether you lived inside the womb for one week, or whether you live for a century. All are born dead in sin and trespasses. And this is what we need to understand. And so, but there may be many things that God deals in certain situations and exceptional situations that we may not be privy to, and we leave the secret things to the Lord. We leave the secret things to him.

Christ’s Obedience Brings Life

SPEAKER_05 1:49

So now he says that in contrast, through Christ's obedience, this results in life, in his life and death, and many are made righteous through Christ's obedience culminating in his life, and in his death, we are made righteous. Now here's the thing when Adam's offense, when his sin committed, when he broke God's command, death passed upon all, and that death was permanent for all, except for those who were chosen to be in Christ before the foundation of the world. This is clear in scripture. But it was a permanent death unless a supernatural intervention took place, meaning the Son of God coming here and bringing to life those whom the Father gave him and those who he would send the Holy Spirit to regenerate. But when it comes to the salvation that he gives, the life that he gives to those who believe, he imputes his righteousness to them, and they are made righteous forevermore. They are made righteous. The old nature whereby they were made sinners by the death of by by the sin of Adam in Christ, they were the those in him were made righteous, never to be undone again. That's an impossibility. When Christ saves and imputes righteousness, when he does this, this is a permanent condition. Just as the it was a permanent condition that those that were born under Adam before having a trust in Christ or able to have a trust in Christ, that death was permanent. And all those people who perish in their sins, these are they who were the sons of Adam who were left in the condition in the state of death. That sinful nature was never removed from them by Christ, being the only one who could remove

Grace, Election, And God’s Fairness

SPEAKER_05 4:09

it. It has nothing to do with the will of man, it has to do with whatever it is that the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit has convened to do in the divune tribunal of eternity to save whosoever they choose to save. And there is no man that can render a charge to God that says, Well, he's unfair unless he gives everyone else an equal chance. If an equal chance would imply that there is something on the part of men, an intellectual capacity, that enables one to make the right decision, whereas others could not. But that would go against, that would go contrary to what the all of Scripture teaches, with that salvation is about grace. Salvation has never changed from the time of Adam until the Lord Jesus Christ returns, salvation has always been the same by grace through faith, and that is a gift of God, not of yourselves. Hard pills to swallow. Hard pills to swallow. No one can complain that God is unfair. If God, if you could, because if you have the ability to understand these things, then it is your responsibility to flee to Christ. Flee to Christ. That's the responsibility of all souls who hear this gospel. Flee to Christ. You can't complain about him being unfair if he has given you life long enough to understand the benefits and the glory of what Christ has done. If those around you are perishing and you know that salvation is by Christ, by by grace through faith alone in the Lord Jesus Christ, if you know this and you never tell anyone about it, you have a part in that in their condemnation if you could have done something to show them the way out. I get sick and tired of people who are always talking about, well, God is unfair. He can't be a loving God if he does this. And then these folks, they talk about, well, God is it says clearly that He is imp that he is not a respecter of persons, that He is not, that He does not show partiality. He does not show partiality toward nationality, race, culture, land geographics, not people. He has chosen his people and he shows favor. If grace is unmerited favor, how can it be unmerited favor if it's not favor? God favors his children, just like all of you who have children, favor your children. God favors his people. When it says he is not a respecter of persons, he is saying that I am not just the God of Israel or God of the Jews. I am not just the God of Americans, I am not just the God of the Chinese or the Russians or the whites or the blacks or the browns. That's what he means when he says that. He is saying that he has a favored people from among all nationalities on earth, all ethnicities. God has a people that belong to him from every nation, every tongue, every kindred, every ethnicity, every nation, every land under the earth, under the sun. That's what that means. But if grace, as every Christian that I know of, every Christian that I know, regardless of differences we may have in doctrine, we all agree as to the definition of what grace is. Unmerited favor. Unmerited favor. When God says he saves by grace, he is showing unmerited favor. Favor. If he saves you, it's because he favors you. Yes, he favors you. It was he, the Lord God Almighty, Old Testament, New Testament, doesn't matter. Same God, same thing he says. I will have mercy on whomsoever I choose to have mercy, which means that if he has mercy on you, it is exemplifies his favor. He says, I will have compassion on whomsoever I will have compassion. I choose who I choose to have compassion on. And those who I choose to choose to have compassion on are those whom God the Father gave me from his divine sovereign choice to redeem. This is why I don't get upset with people who fight about this because only his sheep can understand it. Why? Because they are favored. We are his chosen people, and then some other Christians will be like Christians now who fall into this dispensational camp. Dispensationalism is foolishness. But they will tell you if God shows, if God selects or predestines certain people to salvation, that's unfair, that's ungodly. And when we look and then you say, Well, how do you explain these passages where he explicitly says God predestines those to salvation? Then they say, Well, that's referring to the Jews. Why is it okay and fair when you believe he chose them, but it's unfair when he chose everyone who is not of that camp? What sense does that make? How is it unfair to save the black man, the white man, the Chinese man, the Asian man, the Russian man? Why why is it unfair if God predestined a people from among all these nationalities and races and ethnicities? It's unfair if he does that. But if he showed that type of favoritism to the nation, the ancient nation of Israel, that's different. That's not unfair. Do you see how inconsistent that is? That's how this is this doesn't make any sense. We know that the Lord our God has chosen his people, and Christ draws to him all those people that the Father has given him. And when they come to him, they discover the righteousness that had always been reserved for them by God's predestination and election unconditional of them to salvation.

Age Of Accountability And Abortion

SPEAKER_05 11:27

Brother Jeff, man of God.

SPEAKER_06 11:30

Something that was troubling me a while back when you were talking about kids and you know whether whether they receive a special a special treatment. The thing that just struck me hard, and I'm not I'm not bringing up something I think is knowledge, is something that hit me and suddenly between the eyes, that every single person on this earth began as a child. Right, right. Those that are reprobate and those that were elected. But, you know, there's some people that believe, and I I tended that way until until I thought about this, that, you know, up to a certain age, the so-called age of accountability, that children get a pass. You know, in other words, let's say God says, okay, up to five, you know, I'm gonna think you can't understand this, and all of you are elect. Yet if all were elect to salvation or reprobation from before the foundation of the world, that means that some of the children would have to be reprobates. And that troubles me. Right. It troubles me because children tend to be innocent, and even Christ said that those come to me as little children, but it it also heightens and points out the fact of our original sin and our innate sin nature. Because I mean, you know, you can you can see when you when you put a kid in a high chair and put his cereal in front of him and he picks it up and throws it on the floor, that's usually not that that's probably a good example of what it might call a baby sin. You know, I don't want to eat this, bam, I throw it on the floor. But I just throw this out because it just kind of troubled me. I'm thinking, you know, you can how could you have it in a cage of accountability if someone were born that way from the foundation of the world? You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_05 13:18

I don't know anything of an age of accountability.

SPEAKER_06 13:21

Well, I know, but some people believe there is some age of accountability, but I'd say that if you accept the fact that everything was chosen before the foundational world, that blows that out. Right. Because that means that some kids are born to reprobation and some kids are born to election.

SPEAKER_05 13:36

Yeah, and this is and this is what I have a tendency to hold to. This is what I have a tendency to hold to. But but I'm also ready readily being am able to admit I don't know what happens.

SPEAKER_06 13:47

Well see, that's me too. It's just something to think about, and I'm thinking, I'm glad you know God, because I that that's something. If you ask me to make a decision on that, I don't think I can be Solomon in that one.

SPEAKER_05 13:58

Well, we can, because that this this is one of those kind of things, this is one of those kind of things where where the where, like I said, the secret things belong to the Lord. I think that we can I think we can go too far in making assessments about the unknown. But what I do know is that he put it in man, he put it in us to find, for it, for example, abortion detestable.

SPEAKER_06 14:22

Yes.

SPEAKER_05 14:22

You know, he put it in, that's in us for a reason. That's wrong, that's murder. It's it it is, and and and so he put that in us for a reason, and and here's a here's the thing. Because if there is a quote unquote age of accountability, right? If there's a quote unquote an age of accountability, and and if that was disclosed, and we could say unequivocally that every ch every child below a certain age would be saved if they passed on to the next life prior to that age, then you would look you'd have to look at abortion and go, what's the big deal? Outside of the person that's doing it, maybe you might have a moral problem, a moral agency problem. But for the child, you know, it would you would think it would be a blessing.

SPEAKER_06 15:20

Right, to go to be going to heaven and not have to live a life in this world, this part of the world.

SPEAKER_05 15:25

That's right. And so, and so and so this is why it's one of those kind of things for me that as I, you know, because I used to hold a strong and strong position early when I didn't know any better, but as I got older, I began to realize this is something that this is this is left to the Lord. And we we don't, we simply just don't know. But we do know he put it in us to resist the sin of murder. Right. And you know, people get people can call it whatever they want to call it, but that's essentially what it is.

SPEAKER_06 15:56

Yeah, and I totally agree with you. I mean, I think that you know, there is no answer for us, but I think the fact that we're that we even think about it suggests that you know we we strive to know the mind of God, even though He doesn't tell us everything. But I'll shut up because I don't think we want to talk.

SPEAKER_05 16:11

No, no, that's but but that's a good point, brother. And I I think it's good to bring up so that people can think, because it's another reason why we encourage people away from this. But this is a this is a you this is a universal thing. Like I, as far as I know, like I don't know any church, I don't know any Christian denomination of any ilk. I personally don't know any denomination that would say we support, you know, abortion. Now, there may be, you know, it may be if it's a life and death thing with with you know with the with the mother, that I can see something in that in that area. Um there are always exceptions, but I do believe that it's something that from a doctrinal standpoint, we need to be careful because the Lord just doesn't say. He doesn't he doesn't give us any indication about these kinds of things. So we we have to we have to tread lightly on this one. Brother Jeffrey, encourage the servant and then Lisa.

SPEAKER_04 17:08

Yeah, Jonathan, I just want to add, I think this is a matter that we have to simply trust to the heart of God. Right. Jonathan, God knows the mind and the heart of every child that is in this terrible position. Right. And we simply, and I think you you hit it correctly when you say we this is an area. We just don't know. This is knowledge that Jonathan probably is reserved for God Himself because we are not capable of understanding it and knowing the heart and the mind of that child, whether or not they have a concept of sin and the fact that they have willingly, knowingly committed it. Right. So I'm just glad that God is God and we are not.

SPEAKER_05 18:00

Absolutely. Xavion, who are brother, and welcome tonight. Way, brother. Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Lisa and then Xavion, sorry about that. Go ahead, Lisa.

SPEAKER_01 18:10

I just wanted to say, you know, along this subject, uh again, I I agree with with what brother Jeffrey just said, you know, we have to trust God. And if we we look at his character and what he is what he was striving for throughout, you know, the beginning, all the way up until now, God is good, he is love. So as far as the child is concerned, yeah, maybe those that he does allow to come to him are all those who are the elect. And here's a verse that God gave me in a dream one night, and and I I it's Isaiah 57, verse 1. And some of y'all might know what it says. It talks about the righteous man perishes and no one lays it to heart. Devout men are taken away while no one understands. For the righteous man is taken away from calamity, he enters into peace. Right, they rest in their beds who walk in uprightness, right? So God is protecting some people from the wickedness of the of this world. And I'm just gonna say I think it's to all of our benefit to trust our Lord. And when we see tragedy involving a child, we just we I'm just gonna trust my Lord that he knows best, and he's taken that child something.

SPEAKER_05 19:40

Right. I I I agree with that. David thought his he was certain that his son he would see him again. He was certain about that. That's one of the verses that I leaned on. And then I also leaned on the verse where Christ says that for those who harm the little ones, it is better that a millstone were hanged around their neck and they were cast into the sea than to harm one of these little ones. And so to me, that suggests that suggests something that has me lean more to the idea that we will see a lot of children in glory. And and that's just my opinion. And I think that's a safe perspective to have. You know, I don't see, I don't think that I that that we would be outside the the realm of possibility if we thought that all those infants who die as a result of abortion of abortions and infancy, I have a tendency to believe that there's a special dealing that God deals with them. And I do believe it has a salvific element to it. And it's just my opinion. It's what it's my personal opinion that I can't look to a verse or turn to a and say this is it. But I do think Christ's words were pretty strong about what happens when people do, when when people uh talk about these things, but I don't know. I don't know. It could be, it could be they're all saved, it could be that there's the elect, which is what makes logical, theological sense to me. Also, there are elect and there are non-elect, but I don't know. And no one knows. Anyone who says that no, they know is lying. They just don't, we don't, we don't know. We don't know. So I don't know. It's one of those kind of things that that hangs out there, brother Xavion. Brother, you there?

SPEAKER_07 21:29

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 21:31

No, I can't hear you, brother.

SPEAKER_07 21:34

How about now?

SPEAKER_05 21:35

Nope. I'll come back to you later, brother. I'll come back to you later. All right.

Imputed Righteousness And Eternal Security

SPEAKER_05 21:45

So, in verse 19, again, this righteousness that we are made to have by the obedience of Christ is it's a righteousness that we obtain. By not something that we inherit, not something that is inherent within us, but it is something that is conferred, something that is that is imputed. And so Paul talks about this when he puts this earlier emphasis on imputation. The righteousness of Christ is imputing. And we talked earlier about this in previous days, where we talked about the reckoning or the imputation of Christ's righteousness is almost like a journal entry into an accounting ledger whereby Christ or the Lord is going through his ledger and giving an account of a person's life. And when he goes to the person who is a believer, the sinner who was redeemed, there they see a credit, not only a removal of debt, and here's the thing that we need to understand. Christ, by his death, he zeroes out our death, I mean our debt that is owed to God by our sin. But then what he also does, in addition to zeroing out the paying for our debt, he credits us with righteousness. And there you see that abundance of God's grace being displayed on those who we save, an abundance that transcends the fall of Adam. So you have this general accounting ledger that God has before him, so to speak, and he zeroes out the debt, and then he fills up our account with what we inherited by our joint relationship to him that was established by faith. So it's not enough that he zeroed out our debt, but he also imputed his righteousness. So this takes me back to the foolishness of the lie that so many unbelieving Christians perpetrate, being that a person can be justified by faith and then at some point after that lose their salvation. They would have an argument, they would have an argument if Jesus Christ took on our sin alone, took away our sin, but did not impute his righteousness. Then they would have an argument. You follow me? They would have an argument if there was no imputation. In other words, if Christ removed their sin, and that was it, that was the end of it, then they would have an argument that there are things they need to do to stay saved. And essentially, that would mean that when Christ died for them, then he simply died to restore to them the state and condition that Adam was in, which made him fallible to the degree that he could sin, even though he was for a while perfect and upright. But Christ took it a step further. Again, if he left it at that, there would be an argument for losing salvation. In fact, losing salvation for all people would be the inevitable reality if all he did was take away sin. But he imputed righteousness. And so by imp by imputation of his righteousness to us, that is the grounds whereby we stand before God, justified, declared righteous, and reconciled to him and peace established between us and the Lord. It's a beautiful story. Xavier, you want to try it again?

SPEAKER_07 25:54

Oh, yeah, I can't.

SPEAKER_05 25:57

Alright, you still sound like you're in a you still sound far away, though. Alright, we'll we'll we'll come back if you can solve it. Because we can we can't we can hardly hear you, brother. Love to hear from you though. So again, Christ does not give us an inherent righteousness. And this is another reason why this is important. The fact that it was not inherent. If the if the and so you see the difference between righteousness, which is inherent, and the righteousness that is by imputation, two different things. If righteousness were inherent, then there would be also a justification that somebody could make that I need to do something in order to stay right. Which, again, it would also result in us falling away. But what he did do was he imputed his righteousness to us. It was by imputation. And regardless of all the sort of nuances that may that may need to be put upon this idea, the ultimate reality is this all of those who are saved have their sins removed by the Lord Jesus Christ and had his righteousness imputed to us, and it is by that reason that He can the apostle can clear can clearly establish in verse 19 that by the obedience of one meant the many are made righteous. By his obedience, the obedience of Christ, that is what made us righteous before God. That's important. So the actions of each representative, Adam, and then the second Adam, our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, these actions of each one of these representatives determines the standing of all of those who are united to either one. If you are united to Adam only, you'll die in your sins, and that death will be an eternal condemnation, an eternal damnation. If you are found in Christ, known by the faith that you have in him, this proves and demonstrates that you have a real righteous life that was imputed to you, and that life of justification is permanent and foreverlasting. Everlasting.

Obedience From Love Not Fear

SPEAKER_00 28:55

Hold on, baby, up into that point. And then you're on your own, buddy, you know? So that would that would be a decent argument, but the Lord has made a provision in every turn that we can look at, that He has left nothing undone. Nothing. So it's so beautiful.

SPEAKER_05 29:15

That's right. It is. It really is. Sister Vanessa, what do you think?

SPEAKER_02 29:20

I agree. I mean, what is there to say? It's all true, it's all it's all Jesus. And we we just really, you know, thank God for him. You know, that's all I can say. And it's just like I just I told you like before, I just I praise him so much that that's all I think about. I just think about him. And to all the other people that are listening, if you have any inkling whatsoever that God is talking to you, please answer him. That's all I gotta say right now.

SPEAKER_05 30:01

Brother Rodney, your thoughts, brother.

SPEAKER_03 30:05

This is like I said in the in the chat, this is this is really heavy. I mean, like, it's just like, you know, it's just my righteousness, though the righteousness gift is just not rooted in in my perfect obedience, but you know, it's just rooted in Christ's perfect obedience. So like if I even think that any in God's righteousness depends on anything that I'm doing obedient, you know, I I fail. You know, like I have to just understand that it's it's all about Christ's obedience. I mean that's the that security there just is just it it leaves me speech myself. You know, I'm just yeah, so that's all right, brother.

SPEAKER_05 30:48

That's all right. Mr. Lisa, what do you think?

SPEAKER_01 30:53

I think this is so good. You know, when we talk about our obedience and so on and so forth, it's we he's our Abba, he's our father. We we want to please him. It's not, I mean, it never crosses my mind, hey, I gotta do this for salvation. What crosses my mind is I don't want to hurt someone who I love so very much. That's what crosses my mind when I sin or when, you know, when my thoughts, you know, are you know not right, when the enemy or my flesh wants to send me thoughts that aren't that don't honor the Lord, I feel bad because I love him so much, not because, uh oh, uh oh, you know, I'm done for now. You know, that doesn't occur to me. And I don't, I don't, you know, I wonder if it occurs to any of you guys. I mean, I think that when you truly belong to God, it's it he he is, he he's it's no different and just on a higher level than your your earthly father. And when you have a relationship with him, you want to please him and you want to make him proud and you want to honor him and you want to do these things because you love him, not because you're afraid that he's gonna disown you.

unknown 32:20

Right.

SPEAKER_01 32:21

You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_05 32:22

Yep. It's very different. It's it's a it's a it's a familial, paternal relationship that that elicits from us the utmost reverence and desire to please him. And this is something that you know those of us who understand the sovereignty of God always maintain, and and people find, you know, who call themselves Christians, they find this, they find this teaching repudiating. I don't understand it. It's it's like we I can't accept that. I just can't accept that. Brother Rodney.

SPEAKER_03 32:53

Yeah, you know, I just want to say, like, you know, I don't know if this is right, but you know, I come to the point of his sovereignty. You know, I wake up every day and I'm kind of like, you know, we're all doing the day, God, you know, and whatever he says, you know, I just go with it. But it's kind of like I know what I'm doing, you know. So I make a joke with myself, like, Rodney. You already know what the week. The week is one already, you know. You're going to work, you're doing what you've been doing, you know, keep doing what you're doing. I'm blessing you with the job. And no matter if I think I'm doing something wrong, you know, am I doing everything right? Am I doing everything right to keep the job? So kind of this is Lisa's point, you know. I'm trying to make sure I'm doing everything right, you know, but sometimes, you know, I take chances when I'm talking to the customers because I kind of care and I tell them, like, you know, I care more about you and making sure your health is intact in my paycheck, you know what I mean? And it kind of creates a whole nother conversation. I want to be on the phone with them longer than I'm supposed to be. I'm not, I don't want to go too long, but you know, I just took Lisa's point, you know, it it it you fall into that sometimes because you kind of want to just do what's right for the love of God. And then sometimes they are like, Are you a are you a Christian or are you you you follow God? And I'm like, oh shit, I don't know, I can't talk about that, you know. But I still do it and I end the conversation, you know what I mean? And they call back, they ask for me and stuff like that, you know. So I guess I'm doing something right, you know, I guess.

SPEAKER_05 34:16

All right, all right, but keep keep keep that going. Brother Jeff, man of God, and then Jeffrey and Courian servant.

Covered By Blood And The Law

SPEAKER_06 34:22

Yeah, you know, the thought occurred to me as, you know, crazy. We we are we are described as being covered by his blood. Okay, the blood he shed at the cross for us. Now, the nature of blood is that it tends to wash off of you because it's a liquid. If it stays long enough, it'll dry, but it can still be washed off. I'm thinking of the blood as more like a tattoo over your heart. It's more like a total body tattoo. In other words, you can't get rid of it without skinning yourself. So once you're covered by the blood, you can't uncover yourself by the blood. Again, that's against losing your salvation. And the fact that, you know, we are we are marked with that. That is that is a mark that we have, and we're sealed by the Holy Spirit, but we are covered by the blood. And and that thought just jumped in my head. I mean, I don't have anything to back it up. I'm just thinking, you know, it's kind of an interesting thing to think about because it can't be removed. That's right. It cannot be removed. And in fact, it can't be. I believe that.

SPEAKER_05 35:25

That's right. It can be. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_06 35:28

Once you're covered, that's it. That's it. You know, and that's just it. I mean, so we're sitting here thinking, you know, that and that's what gives me gives me the boldness. I mean, I probably wasn't supposed to talk about the Lord when I was an army doctor either, but you know what? I just did it. And you know, and I gotta tell you, God is good because when he puts you where you want to, I didn't have anybody come up to me and say, Major Addison, you know, that's inappropriate talking about religion and you being an army guy. I had nobody ever tell me that. I had nobody ever come to my office and said you should be talking about Christ. Right, right. And uh the thing is, it gives you boldness and faith. It does because even if you get rebuked, I mean it's like you shrug and go on.

SPEAKER_05 36:16

That's right. That's right. Jeffrey, encouraging servant, and then we'll try you after that, Xavion, to see if you can make it on. Jeffrey, go ahead.

SPEAKER_04 36:25

No, Jonathan, I just wanted to add tonight that the blood of Christ is everything for us, brother. There is nothing more precious to us, there is nothing more important to us than the sacrifice he made of his blood. Everything. Thank you, Father God. Thank you, Jesus, for giving it for us. We love you and appreciate you. Hallelujah. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_07 36:49

Brother Xavion, let's try again. Okay, can't can y'all hear me now? Yes, perfect. Perfect. Oh, perfect. Good, man. I I just want to say, man, uh what you said, man, it it reassured some doubt I had. You know, it you know, it it reassured, you know, it's it's very comforting. Because I mean, there was a point in time where you know, I thought that I could lose my salvation, you know. I I I didn't understand, you know, like the word, like how I do now. But I just also want to ask, you said something about predestination earlier, right? And I and I just wanted to uh ask you about uh I think 2 Peter, where it says uh is God will for everybody to be saved. I just wanted you to expound on that, and that's that's really the only question I got. All right. You mind if I come back to that later?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You can come back to that later. All right, stick stick stick around for a little bit, and I'll I'll come to that and deal with that later. So I can so I can stay on the flow here, but I'll definitely I'll definitely answer it, I promise you. Okay. Uh okay. So here in verse, we're in verse 20, and then Paul says, verse 20, moreover, the law entered, meaning the law of Moses. The law entered that the offense might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound. So Paul is now explaining to us, Christians, look at this. He's explaining to us the role that the law has. The law. It entered, not as a primary factor, but as something added to highlight and to increase the awareness of sin. The law of God was never intended for the salvation of any man to be the result. The law.