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Etisalat Beach Canteen - Dubai Food Festival 2024 - Part 2 (E66)
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In the second part of the ChefJKP Podcast’s Beach Canteen special, Chef James Knight-Paccheco takes you on a flavorful journey alongside a delectable array of culinary delights.
Delve into the fascinating stories behind the incredible eateries featuring in the 11th edition of Dubai's Food Festival Beach Canteen, plus what food and drinks are must-haves and what are the stories behind the incredible concepts?
Tune in as James speaks with:
• Sid - Sushido
• Hala - Hangry Joe’s
• Ghena - Beach Canteen, Culinary Theatre Curator
• Ben - Benny Mack’s
• Paul - Mamacita
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- Of course, I think the setting is beautiful, as we are saying, the weather is great, and mostly, I think, getting all the... these different concepts together at one place, very convenient place.
You can bring the family, you can bring your friends and having about like 50 -60 different concepts, different cuisines. Trying them all together at one place I think it's a perfect place and I think it's the best place to be right now.
Honestly it's very very diverse but I feel like if you have the right product and the right marketing you can penetrate the market. market. We have like a couple of workshops right here.
So one of them is the culinary theater. And the chefs come in here to cook food and they actually teach students to cook cuisines. And also we have other activities like burger eating competitions,
there's so much happening around here. Burger eating competitions. I think the biggest change I've seen in the Dubai food scene and it's probably since Covid is everything.
had to up their game. No disrespect. You go back kind of 10 years and there were some places that were kind of just going through the motions. For me,
maybe naturally busy because of location and maybe underdelivering a little bit when it came to the quality of food, price point, service, stuff like that. But the change has been amazing that I've seen in terms of quality of service.
quality of food, attention to detail, chefs are cooking again properly, and there's a demand of the staff to be as best as they can when it comes to the service part as well.
Kind of encapsulates all the variety of cuisine of Dubai, so it doesn't really matter what you woke up thinking you feel like eating today, you're going to find it here. So you're not running a risk of showing up and you know,
not being sure what to eat unless you are tempted by everything. For the first time ever in the history of this podcast, we are heading out of the studio. We have partnered up with Eti Salat Beach Canteen in conjunction with Dubai Food Festival to bring you interviews from some of the best and most incredible concepts featuring in this amazing Beachside Food Bonanza.
The Beach Canteen canteen is on from the 25th of April right through till the 12th of May, so make sure to get down here, it's free of charge so there is no excuse for you not to come. If you are new to the show,
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industry. Massive thank you to all of the partners, and at the same time, a massive thanks to you, the listener, as I am super excited to bring you a bumper -packed show. Expect the usual parts of the podcast,
and at the same time, expect to hear about where to go, the must -try dishes, tips and tricks, and of course, a few of those incredible quick fire questions.
And by the way, I forgot to ask, are you sweet? or salty? This is a two -part special, so enjoy the second episode. Time to rock and roll. Now I'm very happy to welcome Sid from Sushido.
Sid, welcome to the show. Thank you so much, chef. How are you? Very good. Very good. Nice and busy. I'm loving the place and their setting. Yep. So, what's your favorite childhood food memory?
Wait, interesting question. question. So Chef, I grew up in India, I grew up in New Delhi. So New Delhi is very popular for its North Indian style curries and kebabs. So I think that is my favourite childhood memory of having those fresh kebabs right off the grill and very spicy of course.
But yes, that's where my favourite childhood memory in terms of food is. And at which age did you start sort of getting accustomed to spice? Oh, I think as young as about like...
like seven to eight years old, I used to go out with my granddad at that time and he used to take me to these small, like local hidden gems in the streets. And that's where I picked up the taste for spice and the taste for authentic Indian kebabs,
yeah. - So what is very interesting, Sid, I have to ask, is of course, everybody knows how rich and diverse Indian food is. - Yeah. - So then tell me about sushi dough,
because this is... is not Indian, right? Yes, yes. I think I think with times I think if I talk about the food scene in India as well, it's grown a lot. There's a lot of influence from all the places around the world.
So again, Japanese and sushi and even in Dubai, as we all know that there's a lot of influence of, it's a melting pot of cultures. So similar to that, I think New Delhi where I'm from is as well a melting pot of cultures.
So over the years, a lot of different food influences have come there. Talk about it. food, talk about European cuisine, American cuisine. So I think that's when I started to like have interest in different types of foods and that's when yeah that's when Sushi Do came.
So then tell me for anyone who's never had the concepts before. Okay. Walk me through the menu. Yes, so Sushi Do is a very is a very different concept as compared to the other Sushi's which are available across in the market.
So Sushi Do is a fusion Sushi concept. So by fusion Sushi, I mean it's not very authentic Japanese Sushi, but it's a very accessible Sushi. So when I talk about accessible, it's of course accessible in terms of price points and one thing,
but in terms of taste profile as well, it's a very saucy, it's a very fusion kind of a Sushi with elements from different types of cuisine as well. For example, we have some types of Mexican Sushi as well.
So there's an influence of American Sushi as well. So So that's why the concept of fusion sushi, which I think for a market like Dubai fits perfectly because we have people from around the world. So it's something which is very accessible to every taste palette.
So that's how SushiDoh is built. - And tell me about the name. - Okay, okay. So I mean, funnily enough, no story as such about the name.
Just a very cool name, appealing to, I'd say, I'd say a target audience. which is mostly Gen Z and Millennials. So I think Sushi -Doh, a very easy to remember name and a very catchy name, I might say.
And what are the specific menu items that you would ask people who are coming to beach canteen to try? Okay, so I'll give you two items.
One's the truffle salmon roll, the truffle salmon sushi roll, bomb of flavors, might people might not have tried anything like that ever at any other concert. Wow.
So it's a creation by a chef. A chef is Japanese as well, Chef Daisuki. So he's come up with these very interesting fusion concepts. So truffle salmon roll is definitely one of them. And apart from it, the classic Philadelphia roll,
which I think we do, we do it very good. Yeah. So the other thing is I wanted to ask you, is that you touched upon it before. OK. Yeah. Why do you think the Dubai food-- food scene has exploded so much?
- Wow, I mean, the food scene in Dubai I think is, as compared to any other metropolitan cities in the world, I think it's right up there now. I think one of the few reasons being as like, I'm an expat over here,
all my friends are expats, all my coworkers are expats, a lot of people coming from different cultures and they bring the best of them together. So when I see different concepts coming up, a lot of chef -driven concepts coming up. up, everyone is trying to bring the taste of their region,
of their country, to Dubai. And I think that's why I think in terms of variety and the types of the flavors, I think you can't compare it to anything else. Dubai is right up there for me.
Absolutely. So then when it comes to food concepts, and if we bring it back home to the beach canteen, why would you ask people to come and visit here?
here specifically? I think of course I think the setting is beautiful as we're seeing. The weather is great and mostly I think getting all these different concepts together at one place,
very convenient place. You can bring the family, you can bring your friends and having about like 50, 60 different concepts, different cuisines, trying them all together at one place. I think it's a perfect place and I think it's the best place to be right now for everyone.
It's super cool, isn't it? it is it is Thankfully, it is thankfully. Yeah, it's really nice. I have to say the atmosphere is great. The vibe is fantastic Super -friendly lots of foodies Yeah,
so then if I wanted to come and find you or order where can I do that? Okay, you're saying in Beach canteen or like not a beach can't okay So you can find us so we are delivery concept as of now So you can find us in Dubai,
Abu Dhabi Abu Dhabi. We are also there in KSA. We are very big in KSA. We're one of the first sushi concepts there in KSA. So we're now in Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Riyadh, and Jeddah. And you can find us on all the delivery platforms,
your Talabar, Deliveroo's, Kareem's, and UAE, and the biggest, and the bigger platforms in KSA as well along the station gyres. - So Sid, what are the plans for sushi dough in the future? Are you gonna have bricks and mortar space?
- We, as a concept, we are running very profitably. in terms of delivery. We have about 20 plus locations across the region. Yes, when I talk about Dine -In, yes, that's in the plan. But I think we're taking it step by step.
I think having experiences like the beach canteen, having a pop -up set up at food festivals, that's how we're taking it. And maybe the next step is definitely a brick -and -mortar survey soon. So then if people wanted to follow you on Instagram,
how can they find you? You can find us on sushido .ue. We have some very cool content on socials, so do engage with us. And yes, be a part of the SushiDo family. - And what are those accounts? Is it SushiDo?
- Yes. - Just type on an Instagram, sushido .ua. You'll find us. - Beautiful, beautiful. - And SushiDo, KSA for our audiences. - Perfect, yep. - So then, for you now, we've come to the quick fire question,
Sid. - Sure. - Are you sweet or salty? - Sweet. - Which types of sweets? - All types of sweets. - I have a big sweet tooth. tooth. So then What would you say is your favorite ingredient?
Favorite ingredient? I'd say is would you consider chocolate as an ingredient? Absolutely chocolate anything chocolate? I'm up for it. And who are your top three culinary heroes?
They don't necessarily need to be chefs either. Okay culinary heroes I think num and if I talk about people who inspire me people who I why really look up to in terms of the concepts they have created,
I think first is Chef Calvin Chung. I think the concepts, he's also had a few concepts in India. So that's where I got into the concepts he created and Jun's in Dubai as well. So I think he's one who inspires me and a lot of people I know.
Apart from it, I think my family, my mom, my dad, my granddad, all of them have the influences and the type of... of stuff. They've made me try it from a very small age.
I think, yes, they are my culinary heroes. - Amazing. Kelvin's actually here, I've seen him around. - Oh, nice. I saw your podcast with him. - Yeah, he's a good boy. He's a good lad.
- Well, Sid, listen, thank you so much for taking the time to come here and be on the show and discuss all things sushi dope. - Most welcome. - Can't wait to see what you guys do. Looking forward to doing a few tastings later as well.
- Amazing. amazing, amazing. Thank you so much. - Thank you. - Please take care. - Bye bye. - Thank you. (upbeat music) - On the show today, I would love to welcome Hala from "Hangry Joes".
Hala, how are you? - I'm good, thank you, how are you? - Very good, I'm very excited about being here. The weather is nice, no rain. So, very happy. - Yeah. - First things first,
can you tell me about your favorite childhood food memory? - No. That would be every Friday after my father would finish the Friday prayer. He would pass by, get us our favorite chocolate cake that we would enjoy as a family after our lunch.
So tell me what was so special about that chocolate cake? The fact that we would enjoy it every single Friday as a family. And it was beautiful? Definitely.
Was it sweet? Was it salty? Did it have lots of layers? What was about that cake that you loved? Yeah. Was it sweet? Was it sweet? was very sweet. I did have the layers, but for me, it's mostly the company. Yeah.
Okay. So it's all about having the family laughing. I routine. Exactly. Really nice. Yeah. So then we're here to talk about hungry Joes.
Now, first thing that came to mind is when you're hungry, you're hungry. hunger and you're angry and it's a very dangerous situation to be in both.
Definitely. Why did you come up with that name? So honestly, I cannot take credit for coming up with the name as it's a franchise from the US. Yeah. So tell me about the type of food then.
What is the things on the menu for somebody who's never had it before? So to tell you more about our concept, it's a national fried chicken with a a Korean twist and we use only fresh chicken breast for everything apart from the wings and even for the sander we use brioche bun so it's a premium fast food and my personal favorite thing on the menu would be the wings because we have the dry rub wings which is crispy
on the outside juicy on the inside it's just phenomenal. Okay Hala now you have to slow down there because there was so much information and it sounds amazing so Korean American it all sounds delicious.
What's your most favorite thing on the menu? Honestly there's a lot of good things but then again my favorite thing would be the wings. So when it comes to the wings is there a specific flavor?
It's just the dry rub because normally when you have it mixed in with the wet sauce you lose that crispiness. So when you have a dry rub it's filled with a lot of of seasoning a lot of flavor it's Korean infused so the flavor on its own is phenomenal okay again so is it sort of because Korean foods yeah they can generally be a little bit sort of sweet salty spicy lots of umami is it spicy or is it a little bit
sweet I would say a little bit spicy yeah but like not too much you get to choose your level so we start off with no heat Mild medium hot and the angry hot which you're required to sign a waiver phone Yeah,
angry hot. Yeah, okay. How hot is hot really hot? I had people cry and sweat from it people who couldn't go to the toilet after it. It's like a bad Wow So look first thing.
Yeah, the the concept is self You're you're based in Saudi or you're based here or based in both. So personally we opened our first restaurant in city walk And we're available across all the aggregators like Talabad Deliveroo Kareem Insta shop noon Insha 'Allah insha 'Allah the plan is to open in Saudi and to open more locations across the UAE like Shahjah Abu Dhabi and so forth So look there like the market here in in
Dubai is full -on, right? Yeah, but for you how have you found the Dubai food scene? Honestly, it's very, very diverse. But I feel like if you have the right product and the right marketing,
you can penetrate the market. And having been in Dubai for five years, I have tried a lot of fried chicken brands. And what I would find is that it would be crispy on the outside, but dry on the inside,
or vice versa, where it would be soggy on the outside, but juicy on the inside. So to find that perfect combination of the crispy and juicy chicken is very rare to find and on top of that our chicken is not just bland chicken it's very flavorful as I told you all of our chicken has the dry rub seasoning which is the Nashville style with the Korean twist.
So from all of the tastings that you've carried out over the five years yeah I mean was it a difficult job because in one respect you're trying to enjoy it.
the chicken. Yes. In another respect You're trying to be you know sort of as professional as possible What was the most difficult part about tasting all these sort of different brands?
Honestly, it put me off from chicken for a while because Sometimes you would feel the oil more than the chicken and that sometimes you would also notice that they don't clean the chicken properly their flavor would be very overpowering and And honestly,
like for a while, I'm like, I love chicken, like growing up, we used to have chicken nuggets, like that's the go -to meal, you know? So it put me off for a while until I tried Hangry Joe's and I asked them, can you make it more crispy?
They're like, yes, I'm like done, where do I sign? - Wow. - Honestly, 'cause I feel like it's needed in the debate market. I tried a lot of places and I would feel like it would be too heavy, that I can't even finish three pieces of tenders,
you know? And some of the-- them the batter would be too thick that you would feel very heavy and what I like about our concept is it's very light and you can keep eating and eating and you would never feel full afterwards and you can finish the whole tray wow yeah okay so I'm gonna have I'm gonna test you later because I'm gonna go and try it I'm excited for that all right so then when it comes to the beach
canteen why are you excited to be here honestly I heard that the black team is very very very hands -on, which I really like. I've been through a couple of events, and I can definitely tell you that this is the best event I've been so-- - So,
how about-- - Your future. - The other thing I wanted to ask you is on social media, where can people find you? Which accounts should people be following? - We're on Instagram, hangryjaws .ae,
and we're on TikTok as well, hangryjaws .ae. And we're on across all aggregators, like, tell about it, if you're interested. Kareem, Noon and InstaShop. Perfect. So then we've come to the quick fire questions for you.
Are you sweet or salty? My personality. Personality or what you like to eat? I prefer salty food, savory over sweet all the time. And personality?
Personality, sweet. Yeah. What would you say your personal or favorite in is apart from chicken? And food in general?
Yes. Honestly, salt. Salt. Yeah, I love salt. So sweet and salty, mixed together, that's what you are. Who would you say are your top three culinary heroes and they don't need to be chefs?
Okay, but culinary heroes already have three for you. No Matsuhisa. Wow. - Wow. - Joel Robuchon. - Gordon Ramsay. - Oh my God, those are serious. - Yeah. - You are hardcore.
- That's why they have Michelin stars. - Yeah. Well, well, Hala, thank you so much for coming onto the show. It's been fantastic to have you here. - Thank you for having me. - And cannot wait to try Hungry Joe's.
- I'm excited for you to know exactly what I was talking about. - Thank you. - No problem. - On the show now, I'm extremely excited to welcome the programming curator,
the one and only Gina. Gina, welcome to the show. - Thank you for having me, Chef James. - First things first, what's your favorite childhood food memory? - Oh, I think as a chef,
you wouldn't like this answer. - Tell me. - It's noodles, I loved eating noodles, all I ate when I was a kid. - You know what? what that is? I have to tell you a secret cheat for chefs.
Okay. We hate cooking at home Generally, right and whenever we used to have a break Instant noodles is the things that chefs love so don't worry.
So that's good. Okay. You're you're in good company Yeah, okay, great. So look when it comes to the beach canteen and your job here Yes, there are so many amazing concepts.
Can you tell us a few that are running through here? Oh, there's so many. Okay, if you're asking about the ones that I like. Yes. I have tried so far a couple of them and not all.
So I would say, and I would start with Rare. I tried their steak on fries and it was amazing. So Rare is one of the ones that we recommended.
Yes, recommend. And also, I tried Korean, I think Taiwanese. Taiwanese food called Mama Bee. - Oh,
wow. - And it's amazing. I tried their noodles, Pad Thai noodles and their bows and they're amazing. James, you should really try them. - Okay,
so those ones are the ones that we really need to try. - Yes, and my favorite is... fat. Fat I've tried their noodles and wow.
What was it in particular about those noodles that you really liked? Oh my god okay so I can talk all about food. So what I loved about the noodles is that the broth was full of very flavorful even the noodles.
Usually I find it very bland like when I try it anywhere else but fats had like like, it had flavors and even the chicken that they had in it was full of flavors.
I like anything that's very flavorful, that has a lot of like spices and herbs. - And it sounds actually like an amazing concept because we interviewed Lyle from Fat recently and he has an amazing history,
very technical food background, but the food sounds absolutely amazing. incredible. - It's amazing and actually there's something I actually want to add. It's because in general, I don't eat eggs at all.
And in their noodle soup, I really don't know the name of the dish, but it's amazing. I ate their pickled eggs and they're like heaven. I don't know,
I want to express more, but I can't find the words express. So you should really try them. them. They're really good. So then if you're a regular guest. Okay. Why should we be excited about beach canteen?
Oh my God. Actually, there's so many things happening in beach canteen and every day there's many things, different things happening. We have like a couple of workshops right here.
So one of them is the culinary theater and the chefs come in here to cook food and they actually teach. students to cook cuisines. And also we have other activities like burger eating competitions.
There's so much happening around here. Burger eating competitions. Yes, that sounds fun. Wow. My drip. Yeah. Okay. And at the same time, there's lots of live music going on.
Definitely. There's a lot of live music. We have every day a new program going on and people love the music on stage. So in a bit, you'll hear it. amazing sound and music and people usually gather there.
It's great actually. And so for people who don't know where is the beach canteen located? So the beach canteen is located at Nesnas beach at Jamera.
So it's right by the Kite Beach too. If you're looking for beach canteen you should get on the beach canteen website. So beach canteen .com .ae. There's all the details that you need right there.
But it is amazing, no? Great. So then, Gina, we've come to the quickfire questions. Yes. First of all, are you sweet or salty? Salty. Salty. All the way. Okay.
Secondly, what's your personal favorite ingredient? Ingredient? Truffle. Truffle? I love truffle. Truffle on anything.
Anything. Anything. Anything. All right. And who would you say are your top three culinary heroes? Honestly, I would start and end with my mother because she has the ability to actually,
whenever we try any nice dishes outside, my mom has the ability to recreate any dish and it's epic. Wow. - Yes. - That's a serious,
like epic. - Yes, epic. It's always epic. Like, for instance, you know, the lobster thermidor? So we used to go to a certain place, a very fancy one,
every weekend to eat it, me and my sisters. So my mom was able to recreate the same exact lobster. So anytime mom, we're craving lobsters,
she's able to recreate it. My mom is amazing. - So, 'cause lobster thermidor, from a chef's point of view, is a very technical dish. - Yes, it is. - So, I love the fact that your mom is able to just be like,
break down the recipe and bang. - Yes, in a minute. - Wow. - Mom is amazing. - Okay, any, so who would the other two be, would you say? - I would say Chef James. - Don't know who that is.
Okay. - He's amazing and like, I've been following his recipe. blog and all his talks about food, and the last one?
Mom again. Mom again. So, Gina, just to go back, really, thank you very much for taking the time to be on the show. Thank you for having me.
I know you've been extremely busy organizing everyone to be in and out of the culinary theater. Thank you so much for being here. here and see you again soon. - Thank you. Thank you for having me, Seth James.
Thank you so much. This was so much fun. - And now on the show, we have a legend who has been in the industry for some time right here in Dubai,
the one and only Ben Tobit. How are you, Ben? - I'm very well. - Lovely to see you. - Lovely to see you too. Thank you very much for the intro. Legend. (laughing) (laughing) - Film it.
like that already, very kind of you to have me. - Favorite childhood food memory? - Well, so many of them, but I think it goes back a long way actually, my dad was a chef and I grew up in pubs and restaurants and my first experience actually in the kitchen was helping him with pots and pans and doing the old lettuce garnishes and stuff like that.
But he taught me how to make my first Yorkshire pudding. - Oh! - And yeah, it's kind of that, you know, that... feeling when a souffle comes out and a Yorkshire pudding works, same kind of feeling that that kind of sense of achievement that it hasn't collapsed,
complete mess. So, first Yorkshire pudding with that, yeah. - And do you know what? I don't think people understand the technicalities of a Yorkshire pudding. - Yeah. - You know, it's not easy to get it right. - It's a tough one, yeah. - It's actually quite easy recipe,
is equal amounts of egg flour and milk and away you go with some seasoning. But... But if you open the door or you check once too often or whatever, bang, very much like a souffle. - Yeah. - So yeah,
that sense of achievement when you see it, you know, souffle right up and you got a great big crispy Yorkshire pudding was amazing for me. - Love it. So look, tell me about Benny Max. Tell me about the concept.
- Okay. It's been a long time coming. Obviously the original business I started after leaving Jamira was Ben's Farmhouse. (upbeat music) That business was primarily focused on online wholesale,
e -commerce, events in catering, and a bit later on, schools. But there was always the fifth vehicle of the business that I wanted, which is obviously my background and my passion, which is restaurants. So as we came a little bit further out of COVID and life went back to some kind of normality,
the opportunity came along for a location in Town Square, which ticked all the boxes. primarily because there was nothing else licensed around there, but also because we live around there.
Hand it? Yeah, always hand it. I actually live right opposite the pub there, so I can actually look with my binoculars out and see what the guys are doing, but it was an absolute no -brainer and I think in this day and age,
especially for small businesses, it needs to be a no -brainer. It can't be too much risk involved. So, we took the location, and after a lot of... blood, sweat and tears we managed to open back in January and as I say it's licensed so it's the only licensed premises in that whole area.
British Gastropub. Most gastropubs even in the UK they have lots of influences from around the world so it's not just fish and chips and pie and mash. There's lots of other influences and we've just launched our new summer menu and it's going down the tree it's very popular.
And how have the community taken to that concept? Very happy initially, of course, because they've now got a local where they can go to and they haven't got to jump in taxis and travel afar to go and enjoy a nice meal and a beverage.
But it's not just a case of opening the door and they come. You've got to have the right price point, the right quality, good service. All of these things are still required. required, whether you're the only place in the area or not.
So we've had our ups and downs in the beginning, like any new business, but we're over the moon. We're kind of where we are now, and it's really starting to resonate not just with the immediate local residents,
but with areas around like Mira, Ranches, the Mack Hills, basically like that. So we're coming a little bit of a destination as well, a local destination. So then you touched upon earlier about the menu.
Walk me through the menu that you have right now. - So there are the British classic dishes, you know, that you got the Scotch eggs on there and you've got the fish and chips and the pie and mash and the roast on a Sunday,
as I said, but for me, a proper gastropub is where the food and beverage are on a par and if anything, the food becomes a little bit more important. So we've got some more integral dishes on there,
influences from places like Spain's. - Thank you. got a lovely octopus and chorizo dish on there. We've got a beautiful Asian braised short rib that we do for nine hours. Well,
so we've got on there that's really interesting. I've just written the menu, sure I should know, shouldn't I? Yeah, we've got some lovely Thai inspired stuff on there as well. So there's a nice cashew crusted salmon that we do with some zucchini noodles and a nice coconut Thai sauce.
sauce so yeah a little bit for everyone on there and then you've got the usual bits and pieces like your chicken wings and your arancinis and stuff like that for your bar snack so there's a nice eclectic mix on there which is something for everybody.
So now if we if we look ahead to what's going on in the scene you've seen what's happened over the past 10 -15 years within Dubai but particularly right now in this this space.
Yeah. What excites you about the Dubai food scene? I think the biggest change I've seen in the Dubai food scene, and it's probably since COVID, is everyone's had to up their game.
No disrespect. You go back kind of 10 years and there were some places that were kind of just going through the motions. For me, maybe naturally busy because of location and,
you know, maybe undeliver it. a little bit when it came to the quality of food, price point, service, stuff like that. But the change has been amazing that I've seen in terms of quality of service,
quality of food, attention to detail. Chefs are cooking again properly and there's a demand on the staff to be as best as they can when it comes to the service part as well.
So I think the Michelin guide come in to the country has been a revelation as well. The level of cooking you're seeing in some of these places, phenomenal.
Wasn't something that I chose to do in my career because I like to cook what I like to eat, which is more kind of brasserie rosette standard food, but we've eaten out quite a lot recently 'cause we can do again after the terminals of COVID and some of the cooking,
the techniques, the presentation, the service part. absolutely phenomenal. So I think in a nutshell that everybody raising their game and really making a conscious effort to be better. - But I think the other thing that's particularly interesting is that you are what I would call one of the homegrown heroes of Dubai,
you know, you've been here for a while, you've had the businesses and also I think what's also exciting for myself for other chefs is to see someone like you open a business. within Dubai and really do well.
How do you see yourself within that realm? We're much more residential focus. We're much more community focused in my business as opposed to my years with Jamira and the IV and places like that.
So it's a little bit of a different place to be because you're dealing with different customers, you're dealing with different different business levels, but I think between me and my wife who started Ben's Farmhouse is a massive,
massive sense of achievement to take a small amount of money in a small group of guys and develop it into now is quite a well -known concept,
brand, local brand. It's a massive sense of achievement and hopefully onwards and upwards. upwards, we're not running before we can walk, we're taking our time,
but when the right opportunity comes along, we're grabbing it. I felt that I owed Dubai something, I did 10 years as I say with Jameer and Dubai was very good to me,
the company was very good to me. I developed a lot as a person, as a human being, met my lovely wife here and started Dubai to buy some property here and really developed it.
as a person and I felt I wanted to give a little bit back to Dubai and in particularly, as I say, the residents and communities where years ago they had to reach out far and drive to go to have a nice meal and stuff because there wasn't much in the community.
So now to be able to provide that to them after the support they've shown the business is, is fantastic for us and hopefully long long way to continue. Yeah, absolutely So so then Ben when it comes to the beach canteen Why did you say decide to be here first of all and also what excites you about being around different foodie concepts?
so for many years When we were at the IV and we had riveted in place We did taste of Dubai down at the amphitheater and always loved it You know that place where you could go and try small smaller portions and try mobile cuisines and different concepts.
And I felt that's what it would be like down here. And it was the perfect opportunity with Benny Max just opening to showcase what we do and try and get a little bit of brand awareness. And I remember doing Taste of the Vi must have been 10 years ago and we had a queue going right down the place and it was all for the fish and chips.
So we got a lovely fish and chips going on over at Benny Max as well. well. - Yeah, so hopefully some people will come down and try what we're doing. There's a few other options on there, but as I'm being told, the fishing chips is so far the best.
- Very good. - Yeah. - So if people wanted to find you, if they weren't at Beach Continue, you're in Town Square, right? - We're in Town Square. So basically, Umsa Keen Road over the main big roundabout, then you go into the Alcudra Road,
which takes you up to Alcudra Lakes and stuff like that. So just after a sustainable city. City, Arabian Ranchers, Arabian Ranchers too, then you've got Town Square and Meera Community up there,
which is a lovely community, very family -orientated, probably the most family -orientated location I've certainly lived in in Dubai. And we nestled in there in the main square where they've got a lovely play area for children,
water park, lots of activities going on. So yeah, it's become in a much more desirable area. and obviously people are watching the pennies a little bit more these days so it's an affordable area with lots and lots going on,
really lovely place to live and as I say me and the wife and the baby soon. Congratulations. Yeah very much, due in July, we're over the moon and we love it out there and couldn't think it was a better place to be to be honest with you.
So then Ben, when it comes to the quick fire questions, are you a sweet or a salty? Salty. - Salty, 100%. - All the way? - I don't really do sugar, to be honest with you. (laughing) You know,
I'm actually more of a, if it comes to something sweet, I'm a Haribo man. - Ah, very good, but you've still got the sour and with the sweet there, but I'm not a big sugar person, so yeah,
definitely salt, yeah. - And what would you say is your favorite ingredient? - Favorite ingredient, God, that is a good question. And I would probably say, say it would be some kind of seasoning,
maybe along the lines of a sashimi pepper, I'd say, which has got multiple uses, very, very good enhances dishes, lots of flavour. And who would you say are your top three culinary food heroes and they don't necessarily need to be chefs?
Okay, well that's just as well because number one would definitely be that, as I mentioned earlier, you need to my first experiences with Dad was in the kitchen and as I say,
he taught me the old kind of iceberg, lettuce garnishes and the wedges and lemons and the real old school pub stuff. So he would be in there. I'm sure this is probably in said a million times without a shadow of a doubt,
Gordon Ramsey would be up there, simply because when I was coming through the kitchens in London, London working for Caprice Holdings, Gordon was kind of reaching the pinnacle of his career.
He used to come into our restaurant and eat a lot after his shifts. The passion and the drive with him, forget the naughty words part, but the passion and drive and the food he does is accessible to people as well.
Not everything he does that's fine dining is without the reach of certain people to even make at home. And then I'd probably say that the biggest influence on my career was a guy called Tim Hughes,
who was the executive chef at Caprice Holdings. While I was there, he was ex -Harvey's with Heston Blumenthal, Gordon Ramsay, and of course the main man,
Marc -Opierre White. Tim then went over to Caprice and in my many years I spent with the company on and off, was a real culinary guru to me. and I owe a lot of where I am now to him.
He gave me a lot of hard times in the past. There's a few tellings off but I always look back at him as the guy who really taught me kitchen values and the proper way to be a chef.
Well Ben look I want to say thank you so much for coming on to this show. The very best of luck here at beach canteen and of course at Benny max over at town square. Very excited to see see the summer menu and do a few tastings.
Amazing. Thank you so much for having me. Good to see you again as well, been too long. Thank you, mate. All the best, buddy. Cheers. I'm very fortunate to welcome the one and only Paul from Mama Sita.
Paul, how are you? I'm amazing. Thank you. First things first, chief. Favorite childhood food memory. OK, so I'm from New Zealand and we claim to have discovered Pavlova.
We're at war with Australia over this claim. - It's a true story. - Yeah, but it's 100 % it comes from NZ. So this was a particular,
especially a Christmas dish that we always enjoyed and my favorite memory of it is the first one I ever made. It was about three millimeters high. - Nice. - Yeah. But I did eat the whole thing.
- Yeah. - So what would you like to put into it? What sort of fruits would you have? - So typically we would cover that thing in whipped cream and then we'd have all kinds of summer fruits on top and it should have been about 10 cm deep.
- Right. - Yeah. - But the point is to get your hands dirty and to make it, right? - Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, my mum was, she was a working mum solo and so I did a lot of baking by myself at home.
- You know what? - I think it's, one of the most underrated desserts it's a Pavlova yeah it's killer because I think it's so beautiful especially in the summertime mm -hmm nice and light you can put any fruit you want yep you know do your own thing I think it's really cool yeah so but you're definitely saying NZ these are the guys who invented it yeah yeah for sure yeah yeah this belongs to like Australia is pretty
pretty phenomenal they're trying to take great credit for many great Kiwi things like bands and foods and things like that, but we never gave up the fight on Pueblova. You heard it here first,
right? So then, if you talk to me about Mamacita and you've never had it in your life before, what type of food is it? Okay, Mamacita represents my wife,
but she was always Mamacita to me, and when she wants to get into the food business business, then this was a name that kind of just jumped out to us. She's Colombian.
She's a South American. Her own personality is explosive, and so her food is explosive, and even the design of the brand is explosive,
and I'm a black T -shirt, black car kind of guy, and she's full -on vibrant color, and that's what comes out in the brand. And, you know, you can definitely see it. her in it. But that's what South America is all about,
right? It is. It is. It's vibrant, full of life. It's fiesta. Yes, exactly. So then what are the types of food in this concept? So it's Latin flavors.
We didn't really want to pin ourselves down because for certain events we do twist the menu a little bit and try to cater to different crowds and so on. Certainly,
there's a lot more. of Mexican in the menu, but it will go anywhere from Spain to Peru to Mexico to Brazil. The menu shifts around a bit. She's highly experienced in all of these locations and dishes and so on,
and so she mixes it up. - So for you, Paul, what would you say is your favorite item on the menu? - Yeah, it might be the Kiwi and Me again, but the,
yeah, I'm not sure. pulled beef taco. Yeah, this tends to be the one that I'm drawn to. We love our barbecues back on and so on. But she's obviously,
she explores a lot more with food than I do, but that's definitely my favorite. And what's your wife's name? Paola. So it was you and her that came up with the concept?
Yeah, so we're partners in this. We actually have other lives as well. This is the one thing we came together and created. And yeah, we're both highly enthusiastic about the brand and it's being well received.
We're in absolutely everything. So we're in all the events. And yeah, it's going well, I mean. - And how long has the brand been alive for, first of all? - Literally just one, yeah. - Oh,
wow! - Yeah, yeah. - Nice! - Yeah, I could actually, I could not tell you. how that happened. It was all very spontaneous, and it just... And do you both have food backgrounds or not?
No, so I'm a marine biologist. I build public aquariums around the world. And to be honest, I know my mom's not listening, but she was really a meat and two veg kind of lady.
And so I grew up with zero flavor. And then once I hit like 23, I started traveling the whole world. world, building these public aquariums. And I lived in all the countries and,
you know, like I built aquariums in Thailand, you know, Vietnam and Kazakhstan. And so I got exposed to all of this radical food from all over the world. How was that for you to sort of,
you know, go from New Zealand and have, yeah, be in two veg, as you say, to then go into a world of foodie and flavor explosions? Yeah, well, look at that. it's actually a bit of a gift,
a bit of a privilege, because, you know, if you get desensitized to food at such a young age, it's hard to impress, right? I am really latching on to Peruvian food now.
And I know a certain lady who's, who's probably one of the best in the world at preparing Peruvian food, and she's just blowing my mind. Like, she's ruining Peruvian food globally for me.
- Who is that? - Yeah, 'cause, uh, it's, um, fusion ceviche. Ah, Penelope. Yeah. Yes. So it's hard to move on after her. Um, her, her food's pretty incredible. But yeah,
I mean, it's, it's a, it's a real treat to experience all this stuff in your adult life for the first time. And, um, that's what's going on. I mean, I started drinking coffee at 29. Right. So you imagine now,
like not long ago, I was, they have like this Jeep VX. vehicle in Columbia called a willy. It's quite funny because they thought they were calling them wheelies because they do a wheelie.
Right. Yeah, because they load them up with coffee on the back, right? To the point where this thing's supposed to be doing a wheelie, right? Wow. But I'm in Columbia and they'll like jump on my willy and we get on the back of this jeep and we're going around these coffee plantations,
like some of them most beautiful landscape I've seen in my life. And I'm trying all this coffee, you know? So as an adult, getting all this first time exposure to all this, you know,
explosive flavors is amazing. - That's amazing, yeah, really. So then, can you explain to me now what really excites you about the Dubai food scene?
- Look, I mean, I think Dubai kind of took the crown from many places. Like, you know, you used to say that Miami or places like that were the most multicultural and so on. But I can't believe the city now.
And I saw it go up. I was in here in 2007, putting up Dubai Mall, doing the aquarium inside Dubai Mall. Wow. You must have seen so much. Yeah.
And, you know, I saw it go from, there was a couple of brunches here and there. Yeah. And, but now the the food scene is incredible like brunches. I mean, Mama Cedar is going to be a wild brunch one day too.
Yeah, you wait for that one. But yeah, I guarantee it. Yeah, but the brunch scene in Dubai is like nowhere in the world now. Like people really use food as kind of the pivoting point on their day out,
which is a big difference. I mean, the food is essentially the cornerstone of the party and Dubai is one of the biggest party cities in the world now. Absolutely. And there is such a culinary capital generally now,
right? Yeah, correct. So much. So then how does your wife sort of see the South American food sort of taking over this region? Look, I think there's a big fan base here for South American food.
I mean, there's a lot of people in my house on the weekend. I mean, there's plenty of Latinos, Latinos, but there's also a huge range of cultures that are embracing it. And I think probably more of the Latin flavors are now coming into the mainstream,
where it was always just mix and mix and mix. And now you're starting to see a lot of Brazilian dishes and Peruvian dishes and things like this has started to kick in. And people are knowing the names of these dishes as well, which is really cool.
So it's a, if you were to pick one that's rising up, I think. I think that's definitely the one that's rising up. Yeah, look, the reason why I'm saying that is because I'm half Venezuelan. Oh,
amazing. So when it comes to South American food, I mean, so your repas, plantain, or platter, all of this super cool things, they are really coming into the mix,
and people really are starting to take heat of the fiesta of the party here. Yeah, correct. Right. So then when it comes to it comes to here, the beach canteen, why should people come and visit us?
Here at Beach Canteen? Yes. I mean, kind of encapsulates all the variety of cuisine of Dubai. So it doesn't really matter what you woke up thinking you feel like eating today.
You're going to find it here. So you're not running a risk of showing up and, you know, not being sure what to eat unless you are tempted by everything. Yeah. Yeah. But it's a amazing place,
great vibe. Yeah, correct. Loads of cool foodie people to meet and chat to. I think it's fantastic. Yeah, look, in this area is definitely the most alive on the weekends and as far as on the beach.
So then when it comes to Mamacita, where can people find you on social media? We're very active on social media. So Mamacita UAE, we're the only one.
And we do a lot actually. actually activation -wise. You know, I bring down some of the girls to do Salsa and we do shows and obviously we did a football event and you can imagine what we did in that.
You know, like so, if you go to our social media, you're gonna see a lot of the activations. We have an activation here for Beach Canteen as well. There'll be a Salsa demonstration. - So then if people wanted to come and find you,
where can they taste your food? literally when you come through the front gate just turn a hard right count two trucks you're on us and then see for example if I was unfortunate that I wasn't able to come to beach canteen where are the other places that we could find you so we are we have a permanent location in Abu Dhabi in Al -Qaeda and so that's kind of hit -hit office okay and then we have three trucks that
are running around all the events so you can pretty much get us in every event. We don't miss many unless we're doing three simultaneously like we are right now, to be honest.
So yeah, we're pretty, you'll see us if you're going to pop up events, you're going to see the see the name. Love that. All right, then chief. Final part of the show, quick fire questions.
Are you sweet or salty? I am with soul. Yeah, I am with soul. - What's your favorite ingredient? - Well,
this is not answering the salt question, but now I'm kind of stuck on chilies. - Oh, very good. - Yeah, so I find myself spicing everything. - Everything? - Yeah, everything. - Breakfast, lunch, dinner. - Someone could bring me a bread and butter pudding and I'll chili it,
so it's like. - Wow, I know what, that's a really good mix. - Yeah, yeah. - I like it. Who would you say, apart from your wife, who would you say are your top three culinary heroes?
- My top three. - Wife always number one, it's okay. - I threw my mama under the truck earlier, but I'm gonna put her on the list of the three, so she's there. - Uh -huh. - All right, definitely my mama's there.
Jamie Oliver was in my ear the whole time. growing up. He kind of made food popular as far as entertainment goes. Food was food,
but then he kind of brought entertainment to food. And then the entire cast of, is it cake? Oh yes. I'm hooked on that one. It's so good. Wow. Is it cake is just a fascinating show.
Brilliant. Yeah. Brilliant. It's really cool, by the way. Yeah. I think it's super inventive. I've been as well in just one or two. -Oh, really? -Yeah. -Well, I have to watch it. -Yeah. -Well, Paul, I have to say, thank you very much for coming on to this show,
discussing all things Mamacita and other things. Fantastic to have you here and cannot wait to taste the food. -All right. Thanks for having me. -Thank you, man. I told you it was a bumper -packed show.
So many amazing concepts, so much delicious food. Where do we even... even start? I was blown away with everyone's passion, sharing the stories,
plus the love of food that brings everyone together. Which begs the question, which one would you want to try first? Let me know in the comments, I would really love to get your thoughts.
Thank you to Etisalat Beachcantin for this amazing partnership in conjunction with the Dubai Food Festival. which also brings together some of the best chefs and restaurants within the city.
For more information, head over to www .visitdubai .com, click on the tab what's on and then Dubai Food Festival. Alternatively, you can head over to www .beachcantine .ae.
Until next time, food is memories.