Client 0:23

it's hard to explain and hard to get people on board when it feels too hard to change .

Lisa (Coach) 0:30

So it's interesting because you're talking about the difficulty of it and then you're also talking about the person that you want to be with or to help . So it's hard for me and it's hard for them . Hard .

Client 0:40

Yeah

Lisa (Coach) 0:41

so yeah , I'm hearing that .

Lisa (Coach) 0:42

And so , when things are difficult , what do you do ?

Identifying the coaching struggle

Lisa (Coach) 0:46

How do you operate when things feel difficult ?

Client 0:49

I get behind the rock and I push .

Lisa (Coach) 0:52

Oh , okay , and how is that ? How's that working for you ? Is that is that ?

Client 0:58

Uh , exhaustion , futility , uh , frustration , yeah , yeah .

Lisa (Coach) 1:07

So that makes sense and , first of all , kudos to you because it's important work . So I understand that it's coming from a passionate place of really wanting to do that , and the frustration is real , because when we can really see the benefits of something and someone else cannot , it becomes very , very difficult . As we know , we can't make

Sustainable energy for effective work

Lisa (Coach) 1:28

people feel a certain way . So the key here is to well , keep you in a sustainable energy so that you can do what it is you do best . I , you know , I've no doubt you're really good at it . Can you ? Can you acknowledge that ? Yeah , yeah . And so what ? What might be a different way for you to operate , because you can control that ?

Lisa (Coach) 1:55

So I'm curious , cause you're right now in the push phase . You're at , you're at I have to , and you're frustrated and you're almost you're , you're oscillating between I have to and I can't , you know . And then I'm hearing I have to choose one or the other , and I'm hearing that you don't want to choose one or the other that education is important to you and

Finding a new operational approach

Lisa (Coach) 2:15

you know , and the programs are important and that they intermingle . So where is the intersection that helps you operate at a more sustainable level ? Because it's really about you at this point . It's not about the program , it's not about them . It's about where you can be the most effective .

Client 2:32

There are a couple of different answers to that , One of which is if I , maybe I need to get better at sales and understanding the language that will motivate people instead of scare them . So there's a certain amount of . I would feel better if people felt empowered from my language rather than daunted .

Lisa (Coach) 2:55

Yep , that's a great insight .

Client 3:02

Energetically I could probably back off with the I need to know factor , like I can get pretty intense about this stuff because people just don't know and it's critically important . So I guess a certain degree of detachment . I Like I'm just offering this and if you want help I can help you . We can make it fun . It doesn't have to be hard , because getting people off the dime has really been a challenge .

Lisa (Coach) 3:41

Yeah , and it sounds like there's an opportunity here to maybe approach it differently and look

Shifting from "have to" to "get to"

Lisa (Coach) 3:47

at it differently . Make it a quarter , not a dime , you know , but broaden a little bit and soften , as you said . And so you know , the empowering language piece is a great insight . You know the acknowledgement that I can be very intense . You know , when we really know or feel we know what is best for somebody , it's just so frustrating that they cannot hear it and you know you have the answers . But until they're ready for the answers , no amount of , as you said , pushing , you know , behind the rock pushing is going to move them . So awareness is huge and awareness is broad . Awareness and allowance and detachment , as you said , is what's coming up for me in terms of the operation system for you . Does that help you at all ? Does that open up any new possibilities for you ?

Client 4:42

Yeah , it's a matter of grounding and centering and facing the work from I get to do this teaching instead of I need to . Yeah , how does that feel ? It feels like work .

Lisa (Coach) 4:57

That's your brain coming in .

Client 4:59

Yeah .

Lisa (Coach) 4:59

It's resisting you , that's normal , that's good , that's your edge , this is great . So I'd like you to . It'll be hard , but I'd like you to say I get to do this work because just I get to . I get to just until you run out of things .

Client 5:15

I get to because I get to do this work because it gets to use my talents , and I get to do this work because the information can be life-changing . I get to do this work because small changes make big impact . I get to do this work because I want to keep myself busy .

Lisa (Coach) 5:39

That's great . That's fantastic . So I'm going to stop you for a second . Imagine that I am the person that you really , really want to get to , and I want you to again , just by saying I want you to embody and say to me why Not from frustration , Come from what you get to do from me and go to your heart space and tell me why is it going to help me ?

Client 6:04

By working with me , you will have the knowledge and tools to take empowered action to improve your health and the health of your family , to prevent .

Lisa (Coach) 6:18

This is great . You're really good with words . I want you to feel it , and the words might not be perfect , maybe it's difficult for you , but I think it's a good space . I mean , you talked about empowering language . It's difficult for you , but I think it's a good space . I mean you talked about empowering language . Empowering language comes from you , not from the internet , but until you connect with it doesn't mean anything . So I could say to you I see so much strength in you and I know that if we work together and if it was a good fit that you could open up , you could

Creating empowering client language

Lisa (Coach) 6:51

open up your world , and that the possibilities are limitless and that you know the answers . You know all the answers . I just know how to ask the questions for you to get there . Can you feel that ? Can you feel me really wanting to share it with you ? Yeah , so with your work , try to share it with me .

Client 7:07

With a little bit of information , with a small amount of tools , you can feel empowered , that your choices are serving you and your family in the best possible way for your longevity , your energy and your ability to embrace the life you want to have . That's fantastic .

Lisa (Coach) 7:28

It's a good thing you got a want to have . That's fantastic . It's a good thing . You got a recording of that . That's great language .

Lisa (Coach) 7:36

You started with a little bit of info . That's the exciting part , because what you're running into is that there's so much information that they need to know . And let me tell you , when you have a kid and you say you need to know this , they shut down , they don't listen and the only thing they can control is not listening to you , and that's what people do . It's like when the salesperson comes in right , I need to know that you have tasted the Kool-Aid and that you love it and that you want to give me a glass . So when you started with a little bit of info , that's exciting . So put the excitement on that , because I won't close .

Lisa (Coach) 8:10

But if you start to say all sorts of things , I start to go yeah , yeah , I know I should , I really I feel like I'm in , I should . You want to shift me to ? I get to , oh , I get to work with you , because then I get to live a healthier life and I get to be with my children . And you know my values , because health if I don't have my health , I can't live up to my values . Right , that's the intersection . Does that make sense ? That makes a lot of sense . Yeah , cool , thank you for playing .

Client 8:36

Thank you for playing my pleasure .