guest 0:23

you know , giving myself a structure that , so that it's not just the audition or the the acting , you know .

Lisa Hopkins 0:35

It's interesting the word sorry , I harp on the words with my clients . I'm like structure . That's an interesting word choice , especially for someone who's lived such a structured life

Rethinking Structure in Creative Life

Lisa Hopkins 0:46

, structured by everything else . So if you were to to maybe I don't know reframe that word as something that really worked for you , about what you really what would that be .

guest 0:59

I mean right , yes , I think honestly like giving myself projects , things that I'm passionate about , things that I can look forward to working on every day , so that I'm not at the beck and call of some force that might grant me a job . But you know it's like so I think it's more about yeah , if , if structure is not the word , then it would be like I don't know Self actualization in my then . It would be like I don't know self-actualization in my days , like you know , something that I set out to do that I don't need

Yearning for Self-Created Stability

guest 1:39

anyone to sign off on , you know .

Lisa Hopkins 1:45

Yeah .

guest 1:50

It's interesting , because what ?

Lisa Hopkins 1:53

I'm hearing underneath what you're saying is is balance that won't be disrupted . So so I understand what you mean , Like it would make sense , knowing you and knowing just even what you've just told me , that you're used to structure . You're used to the structure of an eight week show or of an agent , or you know your whole life has been structured .

guest 2:07

Yeah .

Lisa Hopkins 2:09

And I and I understand that you don't want to be at the back and call . However , you also acknowledge that that is the life of an actor . Yeah , yeah , so , but but when you say structure and your brain knows all that data you are , you're a natural . Like the words you use were like work that I want to be passionate about . You could have been talking about what you do .

guest 2:33

Right , right .

Lisa Hopkins 2:34

Yeah , you said projects . You said work . Yeah , passion , that's exactly what you do . Yeah , you work on projects you're passionate about , and right , and , and what I'm hearing you say is because you know you've grown vertically , let's say , right , you've grown . You've definitely risen , as they say in your field , and will continue to . There's no doubt . If you want to keep doing that , you will , and that's just about a series of choices and opportunities and a lot of things you can't control .

Lisa Hopkins 3:04

I know that if you want to do it , you will control your vessel and you will take care of your body . I know you will . So I don't . I don't worry about that , but what I'm hearing and you tell me if you think this is true , cause I could be totally wrong but what I'm hearing is that you're you're yearning for something that you create that won't go away . When

Finding What Won't Go Away

Lisa Hopkins 3:28

right that ? Honor it's like something you honor and value . That doesn't go away when you get drawn that way .

guest 3:35

Yeah , totally that's it , that's it .