In July 2020, Mateo ( 2 years old) and "Mommy" (Karen Alvarado, Producer of Podcast/Co-AD of Thinkery & Verse) walked through the empty chapel and small rooms of The Church of Saint John the Evangelist, the home parish of the slain preacher and choir singer. As they explore you will hear Karen reminisce on how the church entered their lives and wonder what it was like in the 1920s when Edward and Eleanor shared the space... with possibly their murderers. As Karen unpacks the aesthetics and "feel" of the rooms, Mateo plays, asks questions, sings and offers emotional responses to certain sections of the church. Listen to hear what this mother-son team unpack in their impromptu exploration of "The Murder Church."
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