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A Heartfelt Vision for Wellness Sanctuaries

October 09, 2020 Hosted by Jeremy Melder Episode 7
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A Heartfelt Vision for Wellness Sanctuaries
Oct 09, 2020 Episode 7
Hosted by Jeremy Melder

Vision for Wellness Sanctuaries

In this interview  Sebastian Hilbert shares his story of moving to Australia from a small rural town in East Germany, with a population of  200 people.
He discusses how he and his partner, Theresa Armytage, created Wellnesspreneur after realising there was a gap in the market in how effectively wellness businesses were creating and using their online presence.  Seven years on,  Sebastian and his partner have become leading authorities on wellness business growth training.

When the world took a collective breath during the Covid-19 lockdown, Sebastian started to question whether he was following his true passion. He spent a few days alone in nature feeling into what he'd love to create if there were no limits and Wellness Sanctuaries was what emerged.

Still in early development, Sebastian shares his dream of creating Wellness Sanctuaries around the world that integrate farming, community, sustainable building and off-grid living. He is working with Gymea Eco Retreat to create a model for a space that provides more than a temporary escape. Sebastian is determined to create an experience that is truly transformative for the individual and their community.

Sebastian shares about the following in the interview:

  • how he discovered his passion for wellness and how it has developed over the years
  • his tips in helping health professionals to engage with their customers and grow their businesses
  • how his moments of crisis and change have been the biggest catalysts for positive growth and transformation
  • his vision for Wellness Sanctuaries and the importance of collaboration.

Bio:

Sebastian is the Co-Founder of Wellnesspreneur, speaker and author of ‘Wellness Influence'
After finishing with honours and as dux of one of the most prestigious hotel schools worldwide, Sebastian learned from alternative and holistic health professionals that ‘the big three’ diseases: diabetes, cardiovascular disease and cancer, which had such a profound effect on his friends and family, can , in many cases, be prevented.

This inspired Sebastian to micro-niche and co-found ‘Wellnesspreneur’ with the vision to move the world to ‘Sustainable Wellness’, helping health and wellness professionals to triple their revenue in 6 to 12 months.

After a 7-year entrepreneurial journey, Sebastian wants to build a more conscious, harmonious and abundant world, by building foundations and the capacity to grow for businesses in wellness, health and sustainability.

 

Links:

Wellesspreneur

[email protected]

LinkedIn:

Gymea Eco Retreat & Spa

Sebastians Book: https://www.wellnesspreneur.com.au/book (You find the video there too)

 

Show Notes Transcript

Vision for Wellness Sanctuaries

In this interview  Sebastian Hilbert shares his story of moving to Australia from a small rural town in East Germany, with a population of  200 people.
He discusses how he and his partner, Theresa Armytage, created Wellnesspreneur after realising there was a gap in the market in how effectively wellness businesses were creating and using their online presence.  Seven years on,  Sebastian and his partner have become leading authorities on wellness business growth training.

When the world took a collective breath during the Covid-19 lockdown, Sebastian started to question whether he was following his true passion. He spent a few days alone in nature feeling into what he'd love to create if there were no limits and Wellness Sanctuaries was what emerged.

Still in early development, Sebastian shares his dream of creating Wellness Sanctuaries around the world that integrate farming, community, sustainable building and off-grid living. He is working with Gymea Eco Retreat to create a model for a space that provides more than a temporary escape. Sebastian is determined to create an experience that is truly transformative for the individual and their community.

Sebastian shares about the following in the interview:

  • how he discovered his passion for wellness and how it has developed over the years
  • his tips in helping health professionals to engage with their customers and grow their businesses
  • how his moments of crisis and change have been the biggest catalysts for positive growth and transformation
  • his vision for Wellness Sanctuaries and the importance of collaboration.

Bio:

Sebastian is the Co-Founder of Wellnesspreneur, speaker and author of ‘Wellness Influence'
After finishing with honours and as dux of one of the most prestigious hotel schools worldwide, Sebastian learned from alternative and holistic health professionals that ‘the big three’ diseases: diabetes, cardiovascular disease and cancer, which had such a profound effect on his friends and family, can , in many cases, be prevented.

This inspired Sebastian to micro-niche and co-found ‘Wellnesspreneur’ with the vision to move the world to ‘Sustainable Wellness’, helping health and wellness professionals to triple their revenue in 6 to 12 months.

After a 7-year entrepreneurial journey, Sebastian wants to build a more conscious, harmonious and abundant world, by building foundations and the capacity to grow for businesses in wellness, health and sustainability.

 

Links:

Wellesspreneur

[email protected]

LinkedIn:

Gymea Eco Retreat & Spa

Sebastians Book: https://www.wellnesspreneur.com.au/book (You find the video there too)

 

Jeremy Melder:

Hello, my name is Jeremy Melder, and I'm the presenter from beaming green. Before we start, I would like to acknowledge that this podcast is being held on the traditional lands of the bundjalung people and paying our respects to elders both past, present and emerging. The beaming green podcast is a weekly podcast, which will help you to take out some of the stress and confusion about how to live your life more sustainably. Can we do this by introducing you to people that have first hand experience and expertise in all aspects of sustainability. So you can get some amazing insights of how you can implement simple and practical solutions to enhance your life and the lives of your family. Today, I'm gonna be speaking with Sebastian Hilbert, who is the co founder of the wellness printer. Sebastian is a speaker and author of the wellness influence after finishing with honors, and as Dux of one of the most prestigious hotel schools worldwide, Sebastian learned from alternative and holistic professionals that the big three diseases, diabetes, cardiovascular disease, and cancer can be prevented. In most cases. Sebastian and his partner, Teresa have found a micro niche and co founded the wellness printer with the vision to move the world to sustainable wellness, helping health and wellness professionals to triple their revenue in six to 12 months. Now that's pretty impressive. But today, I'm going to be talking about Sebastian's journey, where he wants to look at setting up wellness retreats in Australia and around the world. Sebastian, I'd like to welcome you to the beaming green podcast.

Sebastian Hilbert:

Thank you for having me, Jeremy.

Jeremy Melder:

And Sebastian, I know that you've got a bit of a background in the wellness industry. Can you tell us a bit about your story of how you got started in the wellness industry?

Sebastian Hilbert:

Yeah, more than happy to do that, Jeremy, um, it's an own sense of being as a bit of a unique story in itself. I mean, I come from a tiny village in Germany. And I always say, you know, 200 people living there. I'm 100. Yeah. 199 since I left, actually, so. So it's really small. Right. So, and I were there. It's also part of East Germany. So when the war was up, am I born in 86? So I'm born in the former Soviet Union part of Germany, basically. Wow. And if you think about that, you know, during that time, I wouldn't have been allowed to come to Australia, right and no being here. It's pretty incredible. And breaking out also, out of this environment, it was was a very safe and secluded environment over there had a beautiful childhood, and spending lots of time to forest in the woods. So on that sense, it's been really beautiful. But there also was a sense of, is that it, you know, got to be moved to the world, right? I got I wanted to break out of that. And, yeah, I long story short, I started working as a waiter in Switzerland. And from there, I woke myself up to the assistance of the manager there, his name is Ralph Mark debold would then help me to come to Australia to study hospitality, management. It was cool. And the reason why I chose Australia was because the introductory school that I went to in Switzerland, was teaching all their subjects in English. And my school teacher told me that my English is terrible and there will never be able to speak English fluently

Jeremy Melder:

Im sure you will share this podcast with your teache.

Sebastian Hilbert:

Oh, and they said, Well, if you want to learn the language, you should go to the country where we speak the language. Yeah. So in some of my friends said, Australia is a beautiful place. So I went there and started studying.

Jeremy Melder:

We're about to start

Sebastian Hilbert:

started in Canberra, actually, person came to Canberra and that's where I met my beautiful partner now in business and life as I like to say, Teresa, and yeah, we got together there. I really thrive there. I finished the BA with honors and stacks of the intake. And I really loved it. And I had this vision of becoming a general manager of a five star hotel.

Jeremy Melder:

It's a good aspiration to have

Sebastian Hilbert:

any good right. Yeah. And I worked for Hotels like the Park Hyatt in Sydney and the four seasons in Sydney and the Grand Hyatt in Melbourne and lilienfeld. Simply mountains everyone ever been up there. So it's been an incredible x, bending journey journey of mine. And I really love that about Australia, because I always thought that could be anyone over here might, if you go to Europe now from Australia, it's very, very nice. Seeing all the historical, and buildings and all this stuff. But with history, I find that comes also a certain social structure and framework right in almost for me kind of a social pressure. Mm hmm. So I didn't have to not stress, I thought there could be anyone here. And now we need to be loved and still do.

Jeremy Melder:

I think a lot of people feel like

Sebastian Hilbert:

that Sebastian did the land of opportunity. They called you know, the United States was the land of opportunity. But I think Australia is definitely a land of opportunity. I agree. But what happened then is that I, after I finished, I taught, I talked to a few people that also general managers back then, and ask them what life is like for them. And what I heard I didn't really like. So I was like, maybe that's not my pathway. So I got these nudges from the universe, or God or whatever you want to call it. And I did a course on entrepreneurship, where I then decided to start my own web design business with two visa. Yeah. And we also decided to go to Europe. So we started a business, designing websites while it's traveling around, and around Europe for four years. So we lived in Switzerland, we lived in Vienna, even a bed and breakfast and France for nine months we obviously have from Germany with my family and close my family. So it's been and we did two big trips with Jesus parents actually, around Europe, in lots of countries, and it's just been an absolute incredible journey. And after a while, we realized, okay, we've been doing our business a bit on the side, because we've been traveling and made a different choice. So we want to have a future when you get a bit more serious about that. So it's okay, what are we going to do? So we said, well, I don't really want to be here with business businesses so hard in Germany, you found or in any other European country because of the bureaucratic. And as I said, I just didn't feel strong enough yet almost to establish myself over there. And do business with debt. So look, let's go back to Australia. And there was a whole visa issue around, there were increasing prices of the visas and we still got in when it was still low. So so we came back to Australia. And that's when really a whole new world opened up to me when I came back the second time. And that's when I was mostly actually for Teresa's family. I was exposed to wellness in a holistic and holistic approach to health, let's call it and I was just fascinated by the simple fact that most of the Big Three diseases in the world cancer, cardiovascular disease and diabetes, on most cases actually preventable. I couldn't believe it because I lost two grandfathers to cancer and one two, stroke several strokes. I lost two very good young friends to cancer. My mother is a chronic, so called hypertension is high blood pressure. My grandma suffers from diabetes. This, these three diseases that I come from in the rural environment in Germany are an absolutely pent epidemic, right? It's everywhere. And every second or third phone call I have with my family. I hear about someone else either dying from cancer or getting cancer like my one of my best friends just was diagnosed with cancer again, and she's like two years younger than me. So and I just couldn't believe it. This is actually in most cases preventable. So I was like, I gotta be part of spreading the word I've got to be doing something that moves the world now. And this is my vision now to move the world to sustainable wellness. And we basically decided to morph our business from building websites to build a online program complete online program for an health and wellness practitioners or holistic practitioners. To help them not only build a website, but really getting the word out they are really growing their business and and really make a bigger impact because I know if I help them to get a better business because they're really Good and what I do I let it be osteopathy or kinesiology or acupuncture, natural, puffy, whatever it is have really good in their trade. It's a. But when it came to business, there was a big lack. And I thought, wow, I can really help you desert that there's a gap there that I can help. Close. So when we came back to Australia, we started establishing the business, what we call now wellness printer. So making entrepreneurs and avans Industries. And that's been your or your bread and butter business until Until now,

Jeremy Melder:

we'll be back in a moment. Hello beaming greeners I really appreciate you listening to the beaming green podcast today. If you like this episode, I'd encourage you to leave a review either on iTunes, or on our beaming green website under the episodes page, we need people to engage as much as possible. Now if you're a social creature, I would encourage you to share those thoughts on your social feeds, we need more people talking about sustainability. Our planet has finite resources, and we need to generate more dialogue and action for the sake of all its inhabitants. If you're doing something in the sustainability arena, please share that on our social media feed. We'd love to hear about it. Thanks so much for your support and keep those comments coming. Thank you. Welcome back. Wow. Now, I gotta agree with you. Because if you look at if I look at my own family, the three things that are affecting cancer, heart disease, and diabetes, I've got the trifecta in my family as well. So and I don't think that's just our families. I think it's a world conundrum, isn't it? It's something that's really affecting quite a lot of people. Now, what I found that's quite interesting, Sebastian, is that he say that you've managed to help these people that are in the wellness industry to grow their businesses threefold by doing what you do? And what is it that you do that helps them

Sebastian Hilbert:

good ones, you don't mind sharing? I'm more than happy to share this with you and into your audience. The we have a program which has three major steps, and we call that the three major steps are your connection with your audience back to making a connection with your audience? And how do you do that effectively. The second one is to then systemize. So once I know how to communicate with my audience effectively, because most people that doesn't, it's not just for health advice practitioners, basically, most small business owners, they are so close to their business, that they have trouble to remove themselves from what they do and what that passion is in their business. And understand what do my patients or my clients actually want from me? What then what do they need to hear? So they understand exactly what I do and what I can get out of working with me. So what language do you use? Do you have a visual model on how to really show the process that you're going through with them, because when someone can see something, they can feel it right? And they can really understand what it is instead of you just talking for an hour in the assessment or something like that. And then the next step is to once once you have established that, to find systems and automations in your business for processes that you don't like doing basically. Right? So how do you build a database of people who are interested? How do you nurture these people, we have a concept that's called the wellness product ecosystem. So how do you build different products and packages in your business based on on your services, that you create a client journey that someone can take from like touching your business through any type of channel and the very first route to beginning to then take small little steps towards getting to know you understand more about you all the way to buying a big program from you? And once you have that all in place and worked out for your business, then Okay, how then do I really get out there? So I've systemized and automated processes, which makes me more leverage in my business. I know how to communicate with my audience. Now, how do I do this on a bigger scale? Reach out? How do I grow? Man, you talked about some of your podcasts that you will already have done a few episodes which are fantastic, by the way. Thank you. I'm glad

Jeremy Melder:

you're enjoying it.

Sebastian Hilbert:

And then how do we make it big and how to get it out there? How do I do that and the things that we focus on as partners, right so podcast is super easy, right? Because you obviously in the You people, and then you can leverage their network and ask them hey, we just did an episode. Yeah. What about you sharing that? Yeah. And then the other thing is social media that we've been teaching. So how do you reach out on social media, engage people and make that work for yourself? And once you have that is, how can I actually make my sales process more effective? We used to do a little bit of advertising, things like that. But we stayed away from that at the end, because it's, it's, that's a whole nother

Jeremy Melder:

another thing? Yeah. Well, it's interesting that you raise this because I know from my own daughter's journey, so she studied to be an osteopath. And I was surprised that, you know, even in the journey, they obviously do a lot of work on being osteopath. But in terms of learning about the business side of things, there's very they do cover it, but it's not the main focus, obviously, it's about how can I make people feel well, so I presume that you know, there's other, you know, people that you've met have got that similar type of journey visa, you're obviously good at what they do is like, how do I get this message across? You know, it's how do I communicate and get my customers to say, I really like you on Facebook, or on Instagram, or Twitter or whatever? Medium they choose? Because, you know, it's sort of, you know, like talking in different language, isn't it? Absolutely. Because they know the human body?

Sebastian Hilbert:

Yeah, exactly. And then what is that message? Usually, you know, what is that message and I've seen many marketing programs that I have done, but I have different mentors, and then different program and invest a lot in like building my knowledge and skill because I started hospitality. Right, so now I'm doing coaching with Ron marketing. So how does that work? Well, I did, I worked with some really, really great people who have been my mentors, and I paid for programs, and it's how I learned and applied it in my own business and other businesses. And the big thing that I see is like, what's that message and most programs are kind of not really tapping into what I find is especially important for health and advanced practitioners, or people in the ones industry is like, where does that come from? Like, they come from the like, inside out, but needs to come from the inside out. So that's always the very first step that I go through with every single person is like, okay, let's define, What's your story? What's your WHY? And where do you actually come from, and then from that place, we structure all other language and then content, and then it's always what you share will always feel congruent and in alignment with yourself, because it came from the right place. And not someone just say, telling you, you know, these are the words that you should use and, and they need to be in palette with the same letter or the same ending or whatever it is, right? It doesn't matter, right? It matters, that it comes to the right place, and that you feel congruent with it. Because if that's the case, it's very easy for you to share your message. Because you know, you can stand by it.

Jeremy Melder:

I totally agree with that, you know, and I think that that inside out approach is very much critical in everything that we do really in society, isn't it? You know, why am I doing this? It's like, I think the conundrum that we've all got is like, you know, we go to work every day. And then some people, particularly now with the pandemic have been questioning, what am I actually doing? Why am I doing this? Which now leads me to this question that I've got, you've gone through your own little conundrum now, haven't you? You know, well, what would you call it like a little awakening process about, you know, what you really also love to do, you'd love you know, helping your clients, I know that I can see that passion in what you're doing. And I know Teresa does the same thing as well. And but you've also now wanting to look at this wellness retreat, but I'd really love you to share the story of the journey that you went through, because it's for me, I found it quite moving.

Sebastian Hilbert:

Mm hmm. Yeah. Thanks me. Yep. love to share that. I think, too. As a big picture, I believe that life whispers to you. I believe that the universe of God not just you in the right way, always. And if you ignore these nudges over a long period of time, and we'll come with a big hemlines, instead of knocks you have your feet. And if you then ignore that again, and you know, the hammer blow gets big on I think that's actually exactly what happens on a global scale at the moment, right. For many people, that's been a wake up call, and yes, they've been so much suffering, you know, and usually the big hammer blows that hurt, right? You know, there's lots of people who have to do much more work and this dots of suffering in the world and video need to acknowledge that but generally that's what happens at what is smallest and the largest scale. So for me, I had my first big wake up call when I was 18 I was doing not so good things or studying an engineering degree in Germany and yeah, I was getting involved with the wrong people and I've taken drugs and it's just wasn't really good I was on a really bad trajectory. And what happened then was that in 2008, my big cat first became a blown my life happened and that was that my dear grandfather who raised me in part big part of my childhood own absolutely adore and he died of cancer. And I dropped out of uni and I had a big car crash where I almost killed my best friend was sitting next to me in a car and myself and I remember being in the hospital and thinking oh my god like this is this is awkward I got to change something and I might need to make a significant change. And I remember like dragging my I had a broken rips which punctured my lung in my lung. My right lung wing collapsed. So that put a to be accepted as a drainage is drainage tube yeah put a drain into to remove the fluid and had to drag this thing next behind me to like weather better drainage we all go in right and walk down the hallway in the hospital and the only people would go out like that were smokers. Right? So they were all like looking at me and oh, yeah, this guy and look at and be in hospital and going for smoke. But I just wanted to go out in the park into nature, right to read some air breathe some air, right. But it was it was really awkward feeling but back then and a member this park, and I made a decision is going to change my life. I'm going to take whatever's necessary, come up with my parents get everything straight. And I changed and that's when I went make the decision to do waitering have become a weight on Switzerland.

Jeremy Melder:

how old were you then?

Unknown:

I was 22

Jeremy Melder:

That's quite a interesting age, right? To make that transition to decide. That's actually good. A good time.

Sebastian Hilbert:

Oh, yeah. I think, you know, in hindsight timing, it's being perfect. And I think the more you listen to these notches and hammer blows, and at best, avoid the hammer blows always look at the notches and timing in hindsight will always be like, Oh my god, that was just perfect, right. And so that's when I met Ralph, in Switzerland. And then they got me on a journey to come to Australia studying. And after my then I finished my study, I got these notches again. And then earlier this year, I got another hammer blow. So I remember it was my It was our anniversary, it was a mind anniversary thing. Oh, god, she's when she listens to that you're like, No, I think that was seven of the eighth anniversary like, but we went out for a walk and New South Wales Queensland border and members. were chatting about all kinds of things. And we come Can we come up this hill and on top of the hill, you could overlook the Gold Coast, like crumbling and barely in Cedar beach at the end. And I started just breaking out into into tears. And it's like, oh my god, what's going on? And I had this like thing of like everything kind of crumbling You know, this feeling when you just think like everything that you do has no meaning. Right? So it's like, oh my god, what is this? So again, it's like, okay, gotta listen to this. gotta listen to this, like, what does that mean for me? And I realized that this thing was trying to be becoming this marketing guru for half months, petitioners being on the computer, all the time was was doing 1012 hour days, right, trying to make this business work. And you know, we've got fairly successful, you know, we've made a really good impact and and things were actually going quite well and early that year. But I realized it's actually not me, right? And the easy thing in that sense would have been to just go back and continue just ignoring that. But I said that no, I know what this means. It means need to have a change. So I then went back to what's my vision? And this is something that's always been with me as the state move towards the sustainable wellness, but how do I do that? Right? So it's like there's a big difference would be for me between vision and mission. know people get that often mixed up, your vision is always there, you know, it's a big thing on top of the mountain, but your mission can change and then you can have different several different missions, trying out different pathways up that mountain. And in all these different ways, pathways can get you up there, right? So it's like, okay, like, what, what, what else can I do so, so I went out I went to a family property from two pieces and two years auntie and called Lost World of amazing as I found it I didn't get lost. But I went went there for three days just on my own and really tapped into Okay, what is it that I that that is that is coming up here, right? Like it created this space to, for something to emerge or something new to emerge. And I came up with this thing called what I call now a wellness, sanctuary retreats or wellness sanctuaries, because I was thinking about what is it? What what is it that I truly love doing? Like, who am I? What is my true self, and I look back at my life and like, hospitality have thrived. So this is something I'm really good, because I just love being with people. I love being having lots of people around me, you know, people say like, a social butterfly, you know, Jamie, you probably know I talk, I can definitely say, with a with no, no hesitation that you love social interaction. You do. So it's like, okay, that did that needs to be an effect on you to bring the back in. I certainly don't want to spend time behind the computer all the time, though. So I needed back in my life. And this thing of creating a space where true transformation can happen for people became a thing. And I was like, Okay, what can I do around it? So that's when I then came up the concept of and dismantle those centuries. It's fantastic. I think, a lot of people, as I said in my statement earlier, emcon through this, I went through that, as you know, and I was just trying to decide also, well, what am I going to do? You know, now I'm stuck at home, you know, I had an epiphany as well. So I got rheumatoid arthritis, that was my gift. To know that, you know, I've got to have a back operation, hip replacement, and knee replacement, all these things over the space of seven years. And it's like, Well, okay, so what can I do, because I still love the environment. And I want to see how we can do sustainability. So during COVID, I was like, Well, I can still talk. What happened if I'm in a hospital bed, I can still talk unless that gets taken away. So I think there's been a lot of people have had minor epiphanies or big epiphanies, like you have, you know, and now you're wanting to do these wellness centers. So tell me about what you're wanting to create. Now, how do you think, how do you want to go about this? Have you got got that far yet? Or is it is brewing and, you know, very much early, early, very early stages? Very much, when I kind of wrote down what it is and what I imagined. And I really recommend to anyone who likes to try this out and feels like there's something new coming up in their life to really get away from everything and just start writing down your thoughts and don't worry about it, what comes together, but just write down what you're what you're thinking, and then what you expect will flow and you create something and that's what I did. And then I was like, Okay, well, I want a sanctuaries, okay, a network of wellness sanctuaries around the world is just crazy, right? But it's this feeling of like, I had all the resources in the world, no restrictions I had all the time. What would I do? You know, really great question to ask yourself, like, if there would be no restrictions, money wise, time wise, or anything else? Really? What would it what is it that you would want to do in the world? So to answer the question for myself and abundance, sanctuaries came up and then it's like, Okay, this is this big, always compared with me looking at from our balcony in, in Eleonora behind currumbin, overlooking the hinterland. And there's all these different valleys that we can see. overgrown by rain forests in the very back is this mountain peak. And this one, as Sandra says, mountain peak, and there's all these valleys and forests in between, I have no idea how to know, golf through that, right. So so but interestingly, when you start sharing that peak, with others, the next step will always present itself and that's what happened and interestingly fruit at time, I got the first one or two steps are kind of in front of me, and I did them and then I kind of got distracted by other things. So easy to do. I you all know that life gets in the way, new shiny things. shiny object syndrome. You know, we all know that. And I realize oh my god, I kind of got off track here. Oh, so but what's the next step with it? I don't know. And all I was like, Okay, I just need to share with some people so I thought of some people be interested, reconnected and all of a sudden, the next step was then what To do so, where am I now with it. I'm working with guy Mia wellness retreat in UK up in northern New South Wales and the owners because there are Teresa's family parties, his family and working with them to create a first concept. Like what actually is the model behind that, that those Bella sanctuaries because we don't just want to create another retreat that people escape to buy, that's, that's really important to me, it's, I see many people, they go on retreats to escape from their day to day life, and then I come back and nothing has changed. And you know, they're just been a way for, for for for a week over a longer treat was. And that's what I want to see in the world right now. Right? So I really hope that we come out the other end on a new level, rather than going back to our old ways, right. And that's, that's always what I think what happens when you go for transformation if something really big happens. So that's what we've done to correct create a model. And my I want to go to right now is actually finding people to collaborate with Yep, so we can really establish and the model around that. So there's some, some great concepts out there, like because you want to integrate farming one integrated community, you want to make it in a way. So also, it's not just luxury by deras, you know, lower price levels that say available as well. And it needs to be all sustainable. So it gave me of instances, I'm pretty sure whatever completely off the grid or like almost done is all run on rainwater on solar and you know, and that you talked about him building on top. So how does that come in, like sustainable building all the chemicals and construction these days is crazy. But as all these things were, that I want to bring in, but it's it's percolating, why it's slowly forming, it's slowly coming together. And I want to leave it open and make it collaborative, so it's driven by others. And not just by my own mind. And Harshaw, you want to

Jeremy Melder:

you want to engage and get to make it a consultative type of process, so that you can all percolate together, because you know, you've got strengths in marketing, other people's have other strengths that they can offer to this and, and that way you can gret create something that's wonderful, by having all the elements or the ingredients to, you know, cook a nice dish, you know, you can't just use one, um, Sri Lankan, I'll use a lot of chili, but you know, your German, you probably won't want so much chili, so. So it's about trying to listen to what's really needed in a community in the world, you know, so I guess you've got to start somewhere, which is in our community right now. But, you know, what I'd like to say to our listeners is, you know, if you're interested in wanting to create, you know, a wellness sanctuary or think it's a great idea, let's just start that discussion in terms of getting that percolating. Because I think these are really important things that we all need to consider, we need to, you know, address a new way of living, that actually takes into consideration the environment, not just for us, but we do exist, believe it or not with other wildlife. And we have so much impact in the way we actually interchange with that. And we really need to think about the whole planet. This is no, no, there's no plan B here, this is our planet. And we really need to look after ourselves from a psychological perspective of a physical perspective. From a community perspective, we've got to take into consideration a number of elements, not just about making money and being just successful, because that's just one way of looking at life. I don't know if you I don't think you disagree with that. But I

Sebastian Hilbert:

totally agree, never ever like to add something that Jimmy you know, like, this is awesome, you know, because everything, everything starts with with yourself, right? And I think that's my big thing. I know, like sustainability in itself goes beyond environment, right? And all starts with yourself. And you can only change others and the world if you change yourself, but this is awesome story I read like a couple months ago, and it really stayed with me. And it's this. It's, you know, imagine like a priest on his deathbed. And he gets asked like, Oh, you know, by this live and Do you regret anything? And he's like, Well, you know, when I was young, I always wanted to change the world. And when I got a bit older, I realized I can really change the world. That's just changed. local community. So he started in started trying to do that. And then he got a little bit older again, you realize I can't change the community, let's just change my friends around me. And then last he was like, okay, a contract my friends either as major as my family. And then he said, at the end, I think I should have just focused on changing myself. Mm hmm. And, and who knows, I changed myself, I may have changed my friends, and maybe even the world. Yeah. And I think there's something so beautiful. I get goosebumps every time I think about that, because it's so true, right? We, this is, this is bouncing back and forth between, like, what you action out there, but you know, really surrender yourself to what's happened, you know, I was like, Oh, do the work, be honest, and surrender the outcome. That's like, like some big principles I live by. And if you do that, it's like you You stay, you always check back in with yourself the inner journey, and we'll work with who you are yourself and your inner truth and your true self. And that's where one of the credible sanctuaries to help that process, but then you need to go out there and apply it. And, and move and do things and do the work. That's being honest. And then you need to bounce back and check back in and outside. So and yeah, that's, that's the new path for myself.

Jeremy Melder:

Yeah. So with these wellness centers, or the, what you wanting to do, how can people get involved with you? How would they contact you?

Sebastian Hilbert:

Yeah, um, Jeremy, I would love for you to put my email address in the show notes, if that's if that's all right. And that that's probably the easiest way, because it's, as I said, it's very early stages. And I'm looking for people who align with those values that I that I expressed and also aligned with maybe creating Varna sanctuaries and around the world, let it be run construction with building or programs you will or you run retreats, or maybe already have a venue, like all these different things will know about community living and all these things like a really like to get more input to crystallize what it really is, what the model is to have the concept is there. But what's the real model that will actually be able that we can recreate more around the world and give everyone the opportunity to? Yeah, listen to last whispers in the notches instead of always getting a wake up call by the big glows.

Jeremy Melder:

Sounds good to me. And you really want to make this available to everyone. Which it's not about just the money is that it's about actually making it so that it's a life an opportunity for life changing moment for people.

Sebastian Hilbert:

Yeah, that's, that's that's the number one thing, it's it's all going to be focused on conscious experience for transformational journeys. So nothing else, I don't have anything else on money. I put aside completely, like I said, like, it doesn't matter what things cost doesn't matter. I'm not saying I have all the resources, right. But the thing like I don't want to create this from a place where this is irrelevant, like money, I believe, is a commodity. And it'll come if you find the right concept, if you find the right model on the right people involved. Our belief is true in my heart that this will not be a problem. We just need to figure it out together.

Jeremy Melder:

Yeah. And that's what we're involved in. you're inviting really is getting people to participate in, in our create a bit of a brainstorm around what can we do? How can we look? And let's see that how that percolates and see if you know, you can direct it in some way together. Because, as you said, you don't have all the answers, I think collaboratively, you can find the answers and make something happen. Yeah, look, Sebastian, I really enjoyed this discussion. And I just love the tooing and froing that we've had and and and I really appreciate you coming on to beaming grain.

Sebastian Hilbert:

Well, it's been an absolute pleasure, Jeremy and its been, lots and

Jeremy Melder:

good, thank you.

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