{"version":"1.0.0","segments":[{"speaker":"David Evans","startTime":25.56,"endTime":28.35,"body":"Welcome to today's"},{"speaker":"David Evans","startTime":25.56,"endTime":28.35,"body":"deep dive episode. I'm so"},{"speaker":"David Evans","startTime":28.35,"endTime":31.799999999999997,"body":"excited to share this"},{"speaker":"David Evans","startTime":28.35,"endTime":31.799999999999997,"body":"conversation I had with Dr. Greg"},{"speaker":"David Evans","startTime":31.799999999999997,"endTime":34.98,"body":"Stone. He's the chief ocean"},{"speaker":"David Evans","startTime":31.799999999999997,"endTime":34.98,"body":"scientists for the metals"},{"speaker":"David Evans","startTime":34.98,"endTime":38.67,"body":"company. 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