In Madison's Shoes: A Unique Blend of Compassion, Ambition and Resilience

Today, we step into the world of Madison, a hairstylist and bartender who dances masterfully between her two professions with discipline and zest. Be prepared to be captivated as she takes us through a hilarious Fourth of July mishap and her reflections on the relentless pursuit of doing more.

Madison's tale takes an intimate turn as she delves into her personal life, sharing the impact of growing up with a brother who has special needs. Discover how this shaped her into the compassionate woman she is today. She sheds light on her love for her community in San Jose, her favorite food, and her daring move from SoCal. 

Finally, we walk alongside Madison as she navigates life after divorce and chases her dreams. We explore the challenges and rewards that come with her career choices and her future plans, including her dream of owning a bar and hair salon that caters to people with special needs. Madison also opens up about her experiences with meditation and its role in her life. Her story is not just about a hairstylist and bartender, but a journey of resilience, ambition, and staying true to oneself. Join us for a heartfelt episode filled with inspiring stories and unique insights.

Transcript

Interview With Hairstylist Madison

Speaker 1 0:00

Hey guys , welcome back to the hassle of hair . Hopefully you enjoyed your 4th of July , had a good barbecue and saw some fireworks . I got burnt . I decided not to wear sunscreen , like I always do I forget right And I got burned pretty red . You can't . I don't know if you could tell in the video , but I am pretty red .

Speaker 1 0:24

And today's guest is Madison , a hairstylist at Mysterio in California , san Jose , california , and a bartender at Five Points in San Jose , california , literally right next to each other . But yeah , i just want to thank her for doing this . She was pretty nervous and I'm this is new to me I'm learning how to go out there and interview people instead of just having to set up , and so thank you for doing this , madison , and I'll have all those links so you guys could . I'll have all those links so you guys could follow on Instagram , book your appointment with her . And yeah , it's , i don't know , her story is pretty pretty it's . It's funny , like talking to people that are like always busy , right , the one thing that they they always feel with most of the people that I talk to that are really disciplined or just always constantly on the move . They feel like they're not doing enough , and I believe she says it towards the end of the interview where we're talking about it . And it's weird because I heard just telling me that she , she works as a hairstylist and then she also bartenders bartenders , bartends To me that's like someone that's has to be disciplined , right .

Speaker 1 2:07

If you're you're moving in those jobs , you have to be disciplined . It's not many people . There's always like a side gig or something that's small or like gonna work retail side on the side , but these are two professions that are are pretty hard right . And I think bartending I see I meet some people that bartend on the side , you know , and my hairstyle like it's just , it's pretty unique , right . And it's funny because you talk to people that that that constantly work right , constantly do stuff and better themselves and and want to be disciplined or want to do good in life , they don't think it's unique . They think I feel like they people that I talk to , feel like like everybody does it right , but then like it's not that many people . There's areas where it's not . It's not like that right .

Speaker 1 3:17

And I think that Madison has a story that that it's something too inspired to be , something too too , that maybe she'll be able to mentor people later on in life , right . And then she gets into other stuff about her life and and I I tried to like , i'm like , okay , i want to do documentaries , right , and my brain doesn't go . Okay , let's learn , let's have somebody teach you . My brain is like I'm just gonna go out there and do it . So this is me trying to do it , and as I'm editing , i'm like , oh , i should have done way more , you know So , but I am . I I will be traveling a lot more . Like I'm about to go to Santa Cruz and go interview somebody And then , and then a few weeks from now , i'm gonna take a big trip .

Speaker 1 4:19

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Speaker 1 4:41

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Speaker 2 5:54

I feel like it varies . It's kind of chaotic . It always starts with walking my dog and then usually I'll like make some sort of breakfast . I can't .

Speaker 1 6:03

Okay .

Speaker 2 6:03

Okay , so how long have you been doing hair ? I did hair for about four years now . I started in 2020 . Well , i graduated from school in 2020 . I started hair school in 2017 . It took me about a year and a half to graduate And then , since then , i've kind of been on and off doing hair , but I guess I've been having my license since 2021 .

Speaker 1 6:30

And you just got into this place , like two weeks ago or a month ago .

Speaker 2 6:36

Yeah , I just started over at Mysterio , probably like two , three weeks ago . Before that , I was working in a solo salon with one of my friends . We shared the space . Yeah , I always been doing cuts colors , blondes .

Speaker 1 6:48

And how excited were you when you got the job here .

Speaker 2 6:51

Oh , i'm so excited . It's such a cool space , i don't know . I feel like it's very type of a lot of cool , creative people , so I'm really excited to be in here and kind of share that with them And get back into doing hair . It's been a minute since I've done it . It's like a year I took off , so I'm excited to be creative again . Use my brain .

Speaker 1 7:08

It's not like you got a job , because this is your first salon or barbershop that you worked at , right .

Speaker 2 7:13

Yeah , so this one's the first like male domino shop I've been at . I assisted out one of my one salon in Campbell And then I moved from there to the solo And I was working for myself there And then , yeah , kind of doing the same thing here , but in a cooler space with more people .

Speaker 1 7:30

What were the struggles that you had going to doing it ? learning how to do hair and then getting to the spot you are now .

Speaker 2 7:39

Definitely just kind of getting used to the flow of it , because when you're in hair school you know everything's kind of like dictated for you But when you're out on your own , you're on your own . So learning just how to manage a business , half of it plus the actual skills . I think that was the biggest struggle Because you know like you spend a year and a half learning your skills But then you're just in there And there's other ways to go for it You can work for , like a commission based salon And they kind of talk more like you don't have to run your own business . But I chose to go the round of the amount of loss .

Speaker 1 8:16

And did the business side take you by surprise ?

Speaker 2 8:19

Definitely . I feel like it took me a minute to like get all like the finance part down and like taking inventory , like knowing what to buy and when , how not to overspend or not to waste products , like all the things that you don't think about And you just do because you never had to like maybe like pay for to keep track of it . That's a little adjustment .

Speaker 1 8:40

And what was your craziest moment ?

Speaker 2 8:42

Craziest moment . Hmm , honestly , my clients and hair have been great . I haven't had any horror stories . I've been pretty lucky . but I feel like in hair school there was some like I witnessed something that scared the crap out of me . My friend was doing one of our other like students' hair and they left the bleach on for too long and her hair just started falling out in clumps And like blisters on her head like the poor thing . So I'm sorry that scared me so bad that I have always been so careful with bleach and like put so much into a learning color . So I don't ever want to see that again .

Speaker 1 9:22

What pushes you to do this ?

Speaker 2 9:24

I love being creative . I feel like I've never wanted to work just like in an office job . I've never been able to sit . still , i was kind of I fell into this because my cousin did hair too . so I was kind of inspired by her and I like store that like her schooling line and my lifestyle . She got to live because of doing hair , because it was very flexible . for a reason It's so much fun too to make someone like feel so good about themselves . You know they can walk in , feel an N like , walk out with the confidence of like we've never seen before And it's really great to be able to give that to somebody .

Speaker 1 9:58

Who is your biggest mentor in this ?

Speaker 2 10:00

My teacher . My name is Miss Tammy . She was really awesome . She was my biggest mentor during school and since then kind of like always believed in me , encouraged me . She taught me a lot about color and she always just like put so much into her clients and like taught me the same too , to you know , care about them as a person and not just like your job Ready . Yeah , i got to remember stand-up script . Bye , thanks , bye , mary , see you .

Speaker 1 10:43

Like , what made you get into bartending ? Like how'd you get into bartending ?

Speaker 2 10:47

Um , honestly , i started out as like a prep cook and I was doing like smoking meats at this one barbecue and bar and then they just kind of moved me up and then I had one guy , the bar manager . He was like no , you should be a bartender , Like you got hustle , you should do it . And I was like okay , so then I kind of just went from there . It was like more of like a shot-in-beer kind of place compared to Five Points , which is like super crafty

Growing Up With a Special Needs Brother

Speaker 2 11:13

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Speaker 1 11:13

What's the craziest pickup line that a guy's came up to you or approached you , or woman , oh , I got lots of those .

Speaker 2 11:18

I got lots of them . I would say the craziest one . Well , i could say like the stupidest one . I was just working in the . This guy's like an older guy with his friend and like a sister or something , i don't know . They seemed like family . And then this friend , anyways , i like walking back and forth and he stops me . He's like , hey , like , can you feel my sweater ? And I was like what , like what ? Okay , i don't know why I did it , but I just went for it . So I like touched his sweater and he's like , do you feel that His boyfriend material ? And then proceeded to continue , just like calling out my name . I feel like my name . They kept going with it , going with it , and then at one point they leave and then he's all telling the host . He's like , hey , like , tell Madison to come out here .

Speaker 1 12:04

Like yeah , that's what , working as a woman downtown is like It's crazy because you are like what you do , like you're bartender , you're a hairstylist by morning , by day , and then a bartender by night . Like , like , where do you find the time to do anything ?

Speaker 2 12:23

I feel like I don't do much other than work and I don't know . I feel like I'm okay with that because I have like such social jobs . I feel like I get all of my like interact with that . So , other than that , when I get home , like I just like to be with my people and kind of just like chill because there's so much going on day in and day out , you hear so much from people that it's kind of exhausting sometimes . So I just sleep , chill , hang out with my dog , my cat . Oh yeah , my favorite food the mac and cheese from firehouse . Yeah , the bacon mac and cheese and I add buffalo sauce or hot sauce to fire .

Speaker 1 13:03

I come from a small town . This is like a small town . Feel like in a big city .

Speaker 2 13:08

Oh yeah , everybody knows everybody . You can't go with anything . Something happens and you'll hear about it like in the next hour from someone down the block You didn't even know knew someone that would know I don't know .

Speaker 1 13:21

You came out with that sound . I was like , if you like , do you feel like that's a good thing that everybody's putting their stuff out there ?

Speaker 2 13:27

I mean , i think it's pretty funny And it's like it has this representation of San Jose , how you want to see it . But it's kind of funny . I don't know how I feel about it . I feel bad for the people that are on it , sometimes like if it's not a good one , but it brings a community together . I grew up in SoCal , orange County , and then I moved up to San Jose probably six years ago Five , six years ago , i think . I moved here in 2018 .

Speaker 1 13:59

That's five years ago . That's five years ago .

Speaker 2 14:03

Five years ago .

Speaker 1 14:04

Yeah , so you sorry . you grew up in Orange County and you came out here in 2018 .

Speaker 2 14:12

Yeah .

Speaker 1 14:13

Like what was your childhood like ?

Speaker 2 14:15

That's good , i mean like it was . I don't really have any complaints . I feel like my parents are still together . I have two younger brothers . One of them is what , 22 ? And another one's 18 , i want to say He has special needs . So it's kind of like an interesting dynamic growing up with that . I feel like it really like shapes me into who I am today and like give me a heart for like different , just different types of people .

Speaker 1 14:48

Yeah , and what kind of special needs is your brother Down syndrome ? Down syndrome , yeah , okay , it's pretty wild , like my mom . Growing up my mom worked with autistic kids and it's . It's such a like she used to be an aid for them , like she'd go to their houses and do like the schooling and stuff , and it's just like you enter that world of like special needs . It's rough .

Speaker 2 15:11

It's crazy , i feel like . I feel like one thing to do is kind of like maybe nervous if , like I want to have kids Like there's so many things that like could happen that you know realize until you're like introduced to that world by like knowing something And it's like it's scary but it's really cool . I like . It's like I don't know He's a character for sure And it just like he brains up my life for show . So funny . He'll like sit there and like take like any pen that's like laying around and he'll smoke it like a vape And then like bring , like he'll smoke like fake cigarettes , like the little candy ones , because we're like he can't bring this like pen around everywhere .

Speaker 1 15:46

Yeah .

Speaker 2 15:46

It's funny .

Speaker 1 15:48

And what ? what was it like Like ? what was it like growing up with the brother with special needs ? Was it was there ? was it a struggle Like ? did you learn to appreciate it when you got older ?

Speaker 2 16:00

Yeah , i feel like I feel worse seven years apart . So I felt like when he was born it was like I didn't quite understand right away , but as I got older I don't know it never like affected me , like . So I feel like some people like get kind of like embarrassed or like I don't know . Those are like little things that can happen , but I feel like , sorry , i don't know , i'm ranting .

Speaker 1 16:27

No , you're fine . You're fine , like , how did you feel ?

Speaker 2 16:34

I'm going to start a way like I feel like I guess I did in a way of like I like had more of like a sensitivity to like people like who are kind of different , like you know , like this like shot kids at school or something . Like I feel like , oh , like I was more sensitive to like talking to them or something because like I would want someone to do that to my brother and kind of like it was opened up my eyes if it .

Speaker 1 16:58

Well , it shows in your customer service . I've seen you , bartend , and I see the people that you deal with Like it . you could see it Like that probably . that's probably why what it's I mean that I see it in you , that that's what it's done . I guess that's where it comes from .

Speaker 2 17:13

Yeah , i feel like I've never thought about it . I think it's never been like a second thought , it's just been normal to me .

Speaker 1 17:18

Yeah .

Speaker 2 17:18

Yeah .

Speaker 1 17:19

Some of the some of the roughest people I know , the people that I've been through like I'm not saying what you went through is rough , But I'm saying like , with with upbringings that weren't typical and probably a little harder , Most of the time they're a lot nicer than everybody .

Speaker 2 17:34

Yeah , i would say so . Yeah , i mean , yeah , i definitely had my fair share of struggles in my younger years , so I feel like , definitely what brought you out to to San Jose ? I was following my ex up here . He was going to law school And we decided to get married and move up here . And then , yeah , when we broke up , i just decided to stay and fill my life up here , and now I can't imagine really being anywhere else .

Speaker 1 18:02

Was he ? was he a high school sweetheart , or what is it ?

Speaker 2 18:06

None . We met through a mutual friend . We were going to a rave And then , three months later , we got married .

Speaker 1 18:15

Oh shit . See , this is why I tell people so I got , i got married after six months . Right , so I was with my wife for six months and I got married with her . I've been married for 10 years . But I tell people , like it's not , that's not how it works . When we get , we'll get into that . Like when did you realize ? like , because at first you probably were like you guys are in love and you're like , man , this is the best thing ever . I'm gonna move with him to San Jose , we're going to get a castle , we're gonna , like you know , live happily ever after Right . Like when did you know ? like , oh , this was not the move .

Speaker 2 18:51

Um , I mean , we were in it for like four years before , no three , three and a half years almost before like a lot of this thing started popping up . But I think maybe after the first year , like moving it , the moving it together the whole night . So we didn't even live together before , we just moved in and got married .

Speaker 1 19:14

I'm going to go get the food , yeah .

Speaker 2 19:15

Yeah .

Speaker 1 19:16

Yeah , we're good . So we were talking about you met your husband or ex-husband for three months and then you moved with him this Saturday , without even living with him before .

Speaker 2 19:33

I'd never been here either , and I also didn't know anybody up here . Yeah , it's crazy .

Speaker 1 19:40

What pushed you out ? You said you had a good childhood . Like what pushed you out ? here We're just madly in love . I'm just kind of sad .

Speaker 2 19:45

I'm just kind of spontaneous and a risk-taker , i guess . Well , the reason why we were going to move up here and then the reason why we ended up getting married instead of just moving in together everything's so damn expensive that we needed somewhere to live So we could get housing through his school . So that's how it , because we went to a Catholic law school . So that's how we ended up with that idea , but I didn't think twice about it at the time .

Speaker 1 20:13

Cause . Orange County is not like cause . I come from Los Baños . Yeah , orange County is not like a place where you want to run from right .

Speaker 2 20:20

No , it's a beautiful . I'm so lucky to have grown up here . Yeah , i didn't , it's not . I just was like , oh , it sounds like a good adventure , like I love him and sounds fun , like why not ? what could go wrong ?

Speaker 1 20:36

I'm a three months annoying to him .

Speaker 2 20:37

Nothing like go wrong .

Speaker 1 20:39

And what ? when did it realize like , oh , this is not the move .

Speaker 2 20:45

I feel like we definitely had like a hard time the first year , like adjusting . when he was going to law school I feel like that's kind of when I realized like , oh , like this isn't what I thought it was going to be . But it was like towards the end , like probably the fourth , third , third , third and a half fourth year , where you know mistakes started being made on like my end , other people's ends .

Speaker 1 21:15

Yeah .

Speaker 2 21:17

And so what had happened to where it just wasn't meant to be anymore ?

Speaker 1 21:23

Your , your , uh , your guys's dream went away .

Speaker 2 21:26

Yeah , and .

Speaker 1 21:29

I had , i had , i had something to follow up with that And I'm trying to remember , um , like , so you , you , you get married . How long were you guys together or married ? for Almost four years , four years , four years . And and then you , you're out on your your own , basically in a city that you barely even know anybody in .

Speaker 2 21:54

Yeah , that's why I feel like I've like loved the bar so much , because I was like , really , when I first started at five points , it was like a really lonely time for me . I'd been like maybe like almost a year since . We had like broken up , um , but yeah , but on my own since , and it was like it was really difficult . But yeah , the bar definitely like kind of saved that I've made so many cool friendships and just getting to know everybody around here has like been life saving for me , like it's helped me so much .

Speaker 1 22:21

Yeah , and when you first got divorced , were you , were you . did you already have a plan of doing a bartending , or did that come from hustling ?

Speaker 2 22:33

Yeah , so I already was . I was already doing both . I'd already finished school and graduated , got my license when I was at the Sola studio . When I was doing that Um and I just started at the first bar , i worked at um around that time .

Speaker 1 22:48

So God , damn , this is hot .

Speaker 2 22:50

Spicy . Yeah , i know , i'm like whoa .

Speaker 1 22:55

Let me take a video of the last one I go .

Speaker 2 22:59

I was not this spicy .

Speaker 1 23:03

All right , god , this way , yeah , like . So how was the hustle Like when you first decided like okay , i'm going to . How was your hustle Like you ? you seem like you have a good hustle , like you're just always working .

Speaker 2 23:19

Yeah , i've been . I've always been doing two things at once . So when I was going to school for hair , i was working . I would go to school like 12 hours a day , or like eight to 12 hours a day , and then I'd work all the other days , or like , if I didn't have school , i'd be working in the morning and then going to school at night , whatever it was . I've always had a crazy schedule like that . And then , yeah , after like I was on my own , i was like , well , i really need to like get it together And like I maybe like when I started off at my job a new job , i guess I think I've always worked two jobs . Yeah , i've done that for a long time I've been working since I've been very like started working before I even was a lot . I wasn't even old enough to work . I had to like go get a workers permit .

Speaker 1 24:07

Like in school you're saying high school .

Speaker 2 24:08

Yeah , I was like 15 and a half or something .

Life After Divorce and Pursuing Dreams

Speaker 1 24:11

What did your ?

Speaker 2 24:12

parents do . My dad owns an auto repair shop , and then my mom stays home with my brother .

Speaker 1 24:19

So he's a entrepreneur .

Speaker 2 24:21

Yeah , that's what it is Makes sense , yeah , okay .

Speaker 1 24:25

The more people I meet when their parents are entrepreneurs , it just seems like they have a different kind of hustle . So you're newly divorced . You decided you wanted to do this hair thing and you wanted bartend . Like how was that ? like What was the come up like ?

Speaker 2 24:51

The come up was great , i feel like , at least when I was working here at Dr Funk 5 Points . I remember it was so exciting being able to move up so fast from bar backing to bartending . I worked my ass off to be able to zoom in around that bar to prove my point , especially as a girl . I can do this and I'm going to be good at it . So it was really exciting being able to work my way up .

Speaker 1 25:20

And what were your struggles ? Did you have any setbacks Because you were on your own ? How did that feel after four years of being married ? What was it like making your own decisions and not having someone to worry about ?

Speaker 2 25:33

Honestly , it was super depressing at first . It was really really hard , especially because I had a lot to work through just about what had gone down and what led to the divorce , and just got a lot of self growth to do . And I'm thankful for it , though , because I would not be anywhere where I am today . I'm a completely different person and I don't think that's a bad thing , but yeah , it was really difficult . I remember I couldn't go to sleep for the longest time without something playing on . I was super the fan on . I had to have the light on . I don't know . I have a pillow set up to make it feel like a prank .

Speaker 1 26:20

It was so sad .

Speaker 2 26:23

I feel like it's just part of how it is in any relationship when you break up .

Speaker 1 26:27

And what got you through that ?

Speaker 2 26:30

The bar . Being around with all different types of people and just seeing how much there still is out there Making my own life for myself . It was exciting , especially because I was 19 when I got married . I feel like I missed that big part . It's like reverse People are now where I was years ago And now it's back . It's a weird transition period . I had to learn a lot . Being on my own is great .

Speaker 1 27:15

Where do you see yourself ? What's your goals ? What's your plans ? Do you do hair and bartending ? Is that the end , all be all for you ?

Speaker 2 27:27

I don't know . I think my plan is to do hair full time and then do bartending . I don't know . It's talking about my social life and it's fun . I love it . It's great . I get bored easily . I feel like it's a good mix for me . Eventually , i would love to have my own place Either a bar or I'd love to have my own hair salon . I always had a dream for it A bar and hair salon .

Speaker 1 27:57

I had a separate room for people who wanted to be private . I would want a wheelchair accessible and safe spot .

Speaker 2 28:04

They have that now . I don't know how I explain it . I specifically made it for people who are more accessible .

Speaker 1 28:36

Do you see yourself going into that world and trying to do more stuff like that ?

Speaker 2 28:42

I don't know . I feel like I'm not as a courier . I'd like to blend it and have it as a safe space . I don't see myself going into it . I'd like to volunteer .

Speaker 1 28:58

You know , not too many people think like that . There are not too many people who are driven to do the hair and bartending . I want to have a hair salon . I want to make it accessible for special needs . That's different . Do you find yourself different from people or do you surround yourself with hard working people ?

Speaker 2 29:25

I feel like it's been a process . I feel like before I definitely didn't . I surround myself with people . I did feel very different As I get older . I feel like the more people I interact with and spend the most time with , the more people I inspire me . I don't think it was always like that . I've always been awkward . I'm not like a little bit like .

Speaker 1 29:55

Sorry , what are you saying ? It's funny because there are certain people who are like , oh , they got what . I got That awkwardness . I'm the same way .

Speaker 2 30:08

I'm definitely more drawn to people .

Speaker 1 30:11

If you see the people like my buddy Diego he's super awkward too . I'm awkward , that's why I get along with him I feel like it's I don't know how to describe it . We were talking about your meditation , right ? Let's go back over it , okay .

Speaker 2 30:33

You don't mind , yeah , yeah .

Speaker 1 30:35

So you say you practice meditation and you like what kind ? what kind of meditation do you do ? do you describe it ?

Speaker 2 30:42

I usually go on YouTube and I'll find YouTube or like Apple Podcast or something . But I like great meditation on YouTube . They're a little like short , like five , ten minute , like videos . I guess They tell you like affirmations and like how do you just like think , like visualize , which I think is really helpful too And then , yeah , it's like a good way to get the day started . Or like I like to listen to , i like to listen to Jason Stevenson that night , such a calming voice And then , like we're getting breath , work and stuff , she just like relax your body and the faucet like instantly . So I'm like I have a hard time falling asleep sometimes , so I feel like that's really helped me .

Speaker 1 31:23

It's crazy to me . Well , it's , it's cool to me , like if I , if I paint a picture , like with words , basically describe you right , because I grew up in a place . I grew up in East Side Sound . I grew up in a place where , like , people didn't have goals , people didn't have dreams , people didn't have good habits , they weren't disciplined right A lot . And when , if I like , if I describe you to yourself so you have two jobs , right , you have you , you meditate , you journal , you do all these discipline stuff , this discipline stuff which not a lot of people do . Maybe in your world , like in my world of of martial arts and podcasting , people do it on a regular right , whatever they in my community like , what keeps you so disciplined ? Do you even feel like you're disciplined ? I don't .

Speaker 2 32:16

that's the thing I don't . I feel like to me that's something I think that I lack . It's just like it's so weird hearing it from you , because to me I'm like I didn't , i'm like I kind of perfectionist . this That might be it where I'm like I did this every day so it doesn't count . But yeah , it's really . I don't think of myself that way .

Speaker 1 32:35

Do you find yourself like doing a bunch of stuff and you feel like you're not getting ahead in anything .

Speaker 2 32:41

I feel like there's always work and do .

Speaker 1 32:43

Yeah , Yeah . I feel like how do you ? how do you get through those moments of like , like I'm not doing enough , I'm not , this is not good enough . Like obviously you're getting somewhere , Madison , Yeah , You're doing the hair , you're doing the bartending . Like how do you get through those moments ? Because I feel I wake up sometimes . I'm like I am not doing enough .

Speaker 2 33:03

Yeah , How do ?

Speaker 1 33:03

you get through those moments .

Speaker 2 33:05

I feel like that's where like support from like I don't know , my friends and family kind of helps with like little reminders , like no , this is what's going on . You know , like it's like nice to hear it from an outside perspective , of like be easier on yourself , Like you're doing enough . It's just giving yourself . I guess I gotta give myself some this Lord grace . Yeah , yeah , learning that , yeah , that's kind of how I do it . I feel , yeah , talking about it helps . I've definitely learned how to communicate more .

Speaker 2 33:33

Kind of it's nice to hear like things from an outside perspective too , so you're not just like in your own head all the time .

Speaker 1 33:39

Yeah , We get caught up in it Like it's pretty crazy , because like we're out here trying to grind right And we want more , more , more , more , more , more more . Sometimes it's good just to sit back and say , look , this is pretty fucking cool .

Speaker 2 33:54

Yeah , that's what I've been trying to like implement lately too . more is like just being thankful for where I'm at and like taking like the extra time to like reflect and think of . like this is how far I've come , like it's okay to sit here for a minute and take a break .

Speaker 1 34:09

Yeah , were you like that in your like when you're in married ? were you this driven , or did that come from having resentment from the marriage ?

Speaker 2 34:19

Like I think I think it's always kind of been there Um , because I remember like I wanted , like during COVID , I wanted so badly . I was like I want to finish school and as soon as I finished school , I'm not going to assist for hair . I was like I'm not going to assist , I'm just going to like , rent me on spot , This is what I want to do . And I was like so stubborn and stuck on it and like I remember him always just being like I don't know if that's going to happen , Like , so , like I feel like it's a little bit of both , where I'm like no , I'm going to show you it could happen , or also , yeah , What did you want ?

Speaker 1 34:46

What did you ? what did you want ? growing up , Like when , when you , when you were like in your teenagers , like how did you see yourself ?

Speaker 2 34:55

My teenage years .

Speaker 1 34:56

Like what did you want ? to be Like ?

Speaker 2 34:58

I feel like I've always been like so back and forth . I've like gone through so many different like ideas . I wanted to be like I wanted to be a speech pathologist . I want to be a therapist . I wanted to be human resources , it's going to be a dentist Like I was like all these crazy ideas Not crazy , but like I had so many different things I wanted to do And I tried to go to college for a little bit . But school is not really my thing . I'm good at it , but I just don't like it . Yeah , that's what was it .

Speaker 1 35:31

I was like what do you want to be when you grew up ?

Speaker 2 35:34

Oh , everything .

Speaker 1 35:35

Everything .

Speaker 2 35:36

Everything , yeah .

Speaker 1 35:38

A few more questions and then we'll be done . I don't want to take up too much of your time And I just thought of this now , like , like thinking of my daughter . She's 17, . Right , she's 17 and she's not . She's really book smart , she's driven . But then I went to we had a photo booth . Man , every plane decides to come by . Right now We are by airport , jesse , no , but she , she's driven , right , and . But then we had a photo booth the other day and me and my wife own it And we went to this party .

Speaker 1 36:15

It was really nice party And I see these teenagers , these teenage girls , like they're , they're families rich , like they're . I've seen what my daughter's comparing herself to , And I'm not I don't ask , i don't ask her if she does but having to go to school and see , or even online , seeing on your phone , like comparing yourself to other women , like how did you grow up with that And how does it affect you now Do you compare yourself to other people ? Like , how does social media and the I get ? I'm trying to form a question here How does social media and other people's performance affect you ?

Speaker 2 36:58

I feel like social media is such a hard one , like you always think everyone's doing so much And that's all you see , right , like it's all the good things that you don't see on the hard spot , which I feel like is kind of changing . I felt growing up that's what definitely what it was like , where people only show the best parts . But I feel like now people are starting to get more vulnerable , like online and stuff . So like it's been kind of cool to like find different niches of like I don't know different like mental health stuff and all that like and like just hearing like people will just like think like real life shit that they like struggle with . I feel like social media has actually kind of helped in that way for like some things . But anyways , i feel like , yeah , i definitely I don't do it as much anymore

Education and Career Goals and Perspectives

Speaker 2 37:42

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Speaker 2 37:42

I compare myself to like other people and like their success , but it's right in front of you . How can you not sometimes Everybody does Like I don't know . It's kind of hard like gotta like ground yourself , i don't know . I try to stand my own line and just think about what's going on right in front of me rather than like everything else . But I remember like in , like high school , like college , when I like wasn't going to college . I remember seeing when everyone was like oh , they're graduating or they're this or that . I'm like damn , that could have been me . But instead , like I'm doing this and I like felt like it wasn't the same , like just because I had to go to college . I remember that .

Speaker 1 38:20

How do you feel now ?

Speaker 2 38:22

Now I'm like I feel like I kind of got better at it because I'm stuck in a bunch of debt . I'm like I'm stuck in debt and I got all this stuff . I'm not like , yeah , i feel like it kind of benefited me in that way , but I don't feel upset about it anymore .

Speaker 1 38:39

yeah , It's crazy because I'm wanting my daughter to go to college and then I think about all my friends that went to college . There's like three people that I know that are doing good .

Speaker 2 38:50

Or like you changed your mind , like I had room to change my mind because I wasn't like stuck in a program for too long or like doing this or doing that , so like it was nice to be able to like discover myself in that way and like not be stuck with it .

Speaker 1 39:04

Do you think it's a personality trait like that you just don't fit well in school and you'd rather just be hustling .

Speaker 2 39:12

Yeah , i don't know , because I think it's like my brother did the same thing to my younger brother . It's like maybe it's a family thing . We all are kind of just let me just try it out or I can find another way to do it without having to go to school , like I think that's what it's always been . Yeah .

Speaker 1 39:27

And then anybody wanted to get into the hair bartending industry . Any advice for them . What's the route to go ?

Speaker 2 39:36

Well , hey , you gotta go to school . But when you're in school , like take it seriously and like learn as much as you can from everyone around you , because everybody has something to offer , and like take as many clients as you can like . Even now I feel like I still try to take it like I don't like to say no to anybody , because there's still so much you can learn from everyone , like hair and stuff like that . But yeah , don't say no to clients , like in the beginning stages , so you can get all the different experience . Bartending , hustle like work your fucking ass off , be fast . Barbacking like really helps me a lot . I learned a lot that I wouldn't have like , because I started out bartending at another place and then I went backwards to barbacking . But if I didn't bar back , i wouldn't be as like I wouldn't be where I'm at at all today , like , and I'm like thankful that I actually did go back and have that experience . Yeah , have stronger bones than me at first too . Tell people .

Speaker 2 40:44

I'm not gonna say it . I'm gonna tell people to fuck off or they're being creepy , don't fall into it .

Speaker 1 40:51

That's something that I will probably never deal with .

Speaker 2 40:53

Yeah .

Speaker 1 40:53

I probably will never deal with a creepy woman trying to . Well , actually , i dealt with a creepy gay guy before . Like that's out there too . It's insane to me like watching the differences of like how we react at the bar , like me and the security , and then how vulnerable the women are there . It's like , fuck dude , like there's some creepy guys out there , It's scary yeah . I don't know . Yeah , so tell them to fuck off .

Speaker 2 41:21

Yeah , it's telling them to fuck off . That's my advice . I gotta learn to take my own advice . Don't do it .

Speaker 1 41:27

Yeah , it's hard . It's hard like even being a bouncer , like there's guys that are super invasive like I try to stick to like a two foot perimeter around me . Don't get within that area .

Speaker 2 41:42

I'm getting the bubble , don't get in the bubble .

Speaker 1 41:46

Two more questions . You are where you are now . How do you see yourself ? what are two goals ? I'll give you this what are two goals that you have that you wanna be in 10 years ?

Speaker 2 41:59

10 years . I , i don't know that's hard one , but I feel like my overall it would be . I wanna be surrounded with like close friends and family , people who I like love and who support me , and people that like inspire me and have just like a close yeah , close knit people I don't know .

Speaker 1 42:27

Yeah , having good people around you .

Speaker 2 42:29

Yeah . And then career wise , I don't know . I just wanna do what's making me happy . I don't feel like I have like anything that I need to be doing , as long as I'm happy and like feel fulfilled in the work that I'm doing . Yeah , our travel , i'd be like , yeah , i just collect all the experiences , live my life to the fullest . There we go .

Speaker 1 42:53

It's not a series , but yeah , Laugh , love live I just wanna live .

Speaker 1 42:56

I wanna laugh , i wanna love , i wanna live three goals And then , awesome , before we end it , like thank you for doing this , appreciate it , like there's a reason . I've seen .

Bar Hustling and Hair Styling

Speaker 1 43:08

I heard that once you posted that you were doing the hair , like Diego posted to you , and I was like , oh , that's fucking cool . And then I seen how you hustle at the bar . I'm like , holy shit , this is different . That's a different life . Right , that's why I reached out to you was because this is a that's a hard life to juggle . So I praise you for doing that . And if there's any , how do people get a hold of you ? If there's anything , any last words you wanna say ?

Speaker 2 43:33

Yeah , well , follow my hair page on Instagram . It's madblashkehair , and then on there I have like a link in my bio to book . If you wanna book an appointment or anything , or feel free to DM me . Yeah , i think I have like all my contact info set up on my Instagram , basically .

Speaker 1 43:52

Cool and I'll put the links all down below and all that stuff and I'll put it out there and then , yeah , thank you for doing this .

Speaker 2 44:00

Yeah , thanks for having me . This is kind of fun . I was also nervous , but I'm like okay , it's not that bad .

Speaker 1 44:05

Yeah well , thank you , madison , i appreciate it . Thanks , go follow Madison guys .