What's in the news today with Tim & Keith

What's in the news today with Tim & Keith.

Today we discus the following news items:

100 new gas & oil licences to be issued for the North Sea.

Just stop oil go into melt down.

Illegal migrants and the numbers that keep coming to the UK.

Lawyers encouraging illegal migrants to lie to stay in the UK.

Tax on alcohol and the freeze on draught beer.

Shoplifting and the punishment.

Mercy killing and the release of David Hunter.

Our predictions on when the next General Election will be held and the likely out come.

Transcript

1 (56s):

Boom. I'm in the room. Welcome. This is a new venture. Today

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Is the

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1st of August, 2023, and we are gonna do a little sort of a news program, myself and my oppo Keith. So while we're waiting for Keith just to set himself up, we we're gonna be talking about issues that are in the, in the news at the moment. So some of the top topics. So without too much further ado, I'll bring in Keith. There you go. Welcome. Good morning.

2 (1m 42s):

Good morning, Tim. I hope that you are well, and this is part and parcel of Live every day in August. And hopefully we're gonna do this every Tuesday morning live. Yep. With you what's in the news today. So, well, I'm looking forward to doing this and seeing if we get some views on it, see if we get any comments or anything like that. It'll be really interesting 'cause we haven't, well I haven't put anything out previously, so I will see what happens then.

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So, you going out on Eagle VP this morning?

2 (2m 19s):

Yes, as far as I know. I will check on my phone and just see if it is going live on my channel. So just gimme time and Yeah, of course.

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See, at the moment

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You can't see at the moment, so I'll have to go in there 'cause it says I'm live. So, so, yes, because I cannot see, so I cannot see anything.

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So

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I don't, I don't know what is happening here 'cause I've signed in.

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Yeah. So, well, what we're trying to sort add are technical issues. What we're gonna be doing is we're going live on my channel and also live out on Keith's channel.

2 (3m 21s):

Yeah. But we're not, are we?

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But we're not at the moment. So

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Do not understand that. 'cause it says log in, I logged in and I'm doing everything right. But you've got control of everything, so I'm not that So. It's all right. Anyway, we'll just carry on lightly sent him. 'cause it doesn't bother me. And we'll try and get it right next term.

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Well, let's have a look. See if we can sort it out from here.

2 (3m 52s):

Well, you, you can. 'cause it's got, I can do everything. So is it because I'm a look, see, I can change Yeah. Everything like that. So I do not know, understand why. So it's all right. I'm, I'm going out with you So. yeah, I'll, I'll, I'll just have to do a stream on me own, so later on.

1 (4m 17s):

Yeah, yeah. I mean, what, what you can do. Yeah. I can't say it, it doesn't appear to be coming up on your

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No, it isn't

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Your live stream.

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No, no, no. It isn't. How

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Bizarre. How,

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Because I clicked on the link and then it says sign in and I signed in, but it's only going out on the one channel, So. yeah, well, whatever we, we we're All right. I'm, I'm not worried about it.

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So,

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But we'll get it right for next time. We'll have to do what we should have done is done a private one and just to test it out. Yeah. Because it's not coming. There

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Is to it.

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Yeah. It's, it's not coming live on mine at all.

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No, no. How, how Very strange

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It is. Yes, yes, yes. 'cause it should have been live on mine as well, but, 'cause we haven't done any for a long time. That's why. Yeah. So, no, no, it's, it's all right. It's on your channel. So I will do something later on then.

1 (5m 24s):

Okey dokey. Okey. So we are live. Yeah. I'm coming to you live from the, the Hillman Studios. I'm your host, Lord Tim Hill, and we've got Keith who is my co co-host. So the first first thing we're gonna be chatting about this morning is what the government has just announced, a hundred new gas and oil licences issued. Well, have they actually been issued yet? That's the question. He's announced it, but will they get announced? Will they get actually issued, and will the gas and oil companies sort of take up these new licences to, to go out and, and, and start exploration for new gas and oil fields?

2 (6m 17s):

That's the question. Well, in, well, in my opinion, Tim, that I don't think they've been issued yet. He just announced it yesterday. Yeah. And regarding the second part of the question, do I think the oil and gas companies will go out and drill because of the windfall tax that they're gonna have to pay? Yeah. But they're still gonna make a lot of profits and because of the situation that we are not gonna be self-sufficient in solar, wind, or tidal by 2050, and it's gonna take 20 or 30 years to build these nuclear plants.

2 (6m 58s):

So we're still gonna rely on oil for most of this country, I would've thought. And gas,

1 (7m 7s):

It's, it's, I mean, it's inevitable that we're gonna have to, I mean, what, what I should be doing is, is investing in Rolls Royce and getting these modular nuclear power stations up and running. They're fairly quick and simple to put in. I mean, they do it on nuclear submarines and, and, and alike. So, and, and you get one of those, and it'll give power to sort of a hundred thousand homes.

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Yeah.

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Good morning, Valletta. So we've got, well, I think we're both will.

2 (7m 50s):

Yeah. Yeah. So, but, but back to that then Tim. Yeah. Yeah. I do believe that they are making advances, but we in this country have gotta find a better way to insulate our homes. Because I did read after he announced the new oil and gas licences for drilling in the North Sea, that most of our homes here in the UK are energy efficient enough. And I did hear, or I did see, or in on the news, that every new build now should have solar panels on.

2 (8m 35s):

And I've always said that, but you know, instead of creating these big wind, these big solar farms, if they had solar panels on every roof house, roof or flat roof or bungalow, then you become self-sufficient in your own space. All right. Weather like this, like we've got now cloudy, you're not gonna get much. But even when it's cloudy, you still get a little bit. so that whole all else. And if you've got it on every roof or

1 (9m 11s):

Well, I, I I can I I I can speak with some authority on solar panels. I've got solar panels on the house. We've got four kilowatt set up. Yeah. And let me just, I'll, I'll tell you what we produced yesterday. Yesterday wasn't a particularly good day. It was, there was overcast and there was a bit of sunshine, bit of later in the day, but yesterday we used 13.6 kilowatts of power. Yeah. We generated 5.6 kilowatts and we exported N 0.6 kilowatts. Yeah. That was yesterday.

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That was yesterday. And. that was

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And. that was an overcast day. Yeah. At the moment it's sunny outside and we're, we're, we're, we're generating 3.41 kilowatts of power.

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Yeah.

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So,

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So, so

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On a sunny day, we, we, we, we generally, it's all about three kilowatts. Yeah. But when the sun goes in it, it is not all that clever.

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No,

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No. But it does save us some money. Yeah. We've got a well, well insulated at home. Yeah. So I'm keeping down the cost. Yeah. We've got gas central heating. Yeah. Which is a godsend. It was, I mean, during the winter we try and keep the, keep it down to about 20 degrees Yeah. When it's all minus cold outside. Yeah. And that's good.

2 (10m 46s):

Yeah. So I know we're getting off the subject a bit Tim, but Yeah. What, what do you think to these heat pumps then? Would you consider purchasing?

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Absolutely not. Absolutely not. Have you seen the size of these things? They're massive.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And,

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And when it's cold outside, they don't work,

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Don't they? Oh,

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No

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Problem. I dunno a lot about it's problem.

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Well, it, it, it what it is, it, it it is a thing that uses electricity Yeah. To generate hot water that pumps around the house. And that's where, where they don't, because it can't, you, you're using a lot of energy to, to heat up these things, to push it around the home.

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Yeah. Yeah. So, so

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It's like an air conditioning unit. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they use a lot of power. Yeah. For little, when it's really, it's really hot that it just calls it down a little bit. So. yeah.

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So,

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And it's the same principle. I

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Dunno whether you, I dunno whether you remember that. I remember when I used to go up to the fit here in ops, the chalets, you know? Yeah. And they all had little windmills, little wind things, turbines Yeah. To charge the battery up many, many years ago. I often think that you've got wind farms now, but if every house outside solar panels a wind generating thing, that we could then become self-sufficient in our own little homes.

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But

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Yeah, I mean, the, the fact is

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We still haven't got fact good energy policy. Sorry,

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Tim. I mean, if, if you look at generating electricity or, or, or the, the power that we need. And when the sun doesn't shine, solar powers aren't all that clever. Where the wind's not blowing. It doesn't work either. And is a live update at the moment. We are, this is renewable energies. I, I'm a good energy. And this is what's produced at this moment. So 6% is biomass.

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Yeah.

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1% is hydro, 10% is solar. 37% is wind.

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Yeah.

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So that's a total of 54% at this very moment in time. Yeah. Yeah.

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36%

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Is 9% input imports 27% gas.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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And then 10% is nuclear. Yeah. And that's what's produced at this moment in time. Yeah,

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Yeah. Yeah. And that that's,

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It's what we're getting.

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Yeah. It's a nuclear thing that really, that is gonna be built up. But it takes years to build these new,

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These massive great power stations. I agree with you. But, but these small nuclear units, they can have 'em up and running within a couple of years.

2 (14m 0s):

Yeah. And

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That's what they should be investing in. Yeah. That's long term that they, they they last 20, 30 years, 40 years.

2 (14m 9s):

Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And well, it's, it's, it's like everything in this country, they haven't got long-term plans for anything. I mean, transport, it's

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Short. It's short term because of the short term governments.

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Yeah. I mean,

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We've had the toury government in for 13 years and they've run out of ideas.

2 (14m 29s):

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. But I mean, you look at b in the railways. Yeah. B destroyed the railway system. So, you think to yourself, instead of having all these big lorries on the road, 'cause I mean they have extended the lorry sizes now silicon carry more. Yeah. I always thought in, in my opinion, I mean, I read it years and years ago, where if they'd have kept the railways, they could have taken most of the goods on the railways to a distribution point. And then vans, like prime bands, you know, the,

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Well, well, that's what I had with b r s, but it's rots. They used to move it all, a awful lot of freight on the railways. And then you had the small depots that, that distributed, and then Laurie's got bigger, the trains become uncompetitive and slow and all the rest of it. And that's why we were in the situation that we are. Yeah. Anyway, should we, should we move on from this, this, this, this is the hundred new gas and oil wash. Yeah. Now, the people that are really, really upset about it are these clowns. They, they just stop idiots.

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I'll just stop oil. Yes. I mean, they, they're beside themselves at the moment. They're, they're planned on more, more of their protests, more of their upsetting people. I dunno if you saw the other day, there was, there was this, this other group that called Just stop pissing us off. They, they, they had a guy infiltrate their wifes names and they, they turned up at the same place that these guys were about to gone broke. I think it was one of the bridges in London. And what they did, they just corralled them on, on the paper.

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And then, and then these just stop oil idiots had planned a party in his church hall. I think it was, it looked like it something like a big old church hall. And these, these guys winning. And they got, they got, you know, these Heale balloons. They got a few of these healing balloons and some rape alarms. And they went in, pulled the, pulled the pin on the rape alarm And that things go. And they're up on the ceiling. Oh, wow. And they driving them nuts. And they, it's okay to protest.

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No, I didn't see that. So we, we sat down

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So. it was funny. Yeah. I think So. yeah. I, I dunno, I dunno exactly where it was. It didn't say, but it was hilariously funny giving them some of their own treatment. you know, they, they're having a party. Yeah. I mean, they're such hypocrites. These just stop idiots. They're such hypocrites. Yeah. They, they, they go off on holiday and they Yeah. They, they're just the the, it is a lost cause. Yeah. Yeah. And all they're doing is is is pissing people off. Oh yeah. And it's gonna get out of hand. It really is. I mean, you're gonna see some of these guys getting a proper, proper kick.

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There was the one, the, the other last week I think it was, got a clout and knocked on the ground and kicked.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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And there's lots of people now pushing them out the way and Yeah. And it's gonna get more and more violent.

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Yeah. Yeah. And they're asking

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For it.

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Yeah. I mean, there are other ways really to protest and get the message across, not walking slow and stopping traffic and interrupting sports or other events. you know, I mean,

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I mean, what I doing by walking slow is, is causing traffic jams, which is causing more environmental Yeah. Damage. Yeah.

2 (18m 29s):

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Agreed. Agreed on that. Yeah. They just,

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They don't get it. Do they just don't get it. They

2 (18m 35s):

Just don't get it. No, no. Fully agreed on that. Tim.

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I mean, they really wanna make a difference. They would do like reform UK. They would stand a candidate in every single constituency at the next general Election and put their case to get voted in. And then they can make the laws, they can make the changes that they want.

2 (18m 57s):

Yeah. Yeah. But, but this is it because,

1 (18m 60s):

But that's odd. That's, that's difficult for 'em. Yeah. Yeah. With, with a two party whats name, it's, it's, it's a, it's a, it's a difficult thing to get in. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, this is one of the things that I've, I'm sort of campaigning for reform UK, I think looking at their manifesto, looking at what they stand for, looking at their ideas and their fresh ideas and their good ideas on making this country great again, And that their policy on reforming the N H s Yeah. Reforming the gas and oil.

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I mean, they would, they will allow fracking. And we've got this, why are we importing so much gas and oil from, from around the world? Why are we when, when we've got it under our feet?

2 (19m 56s):

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just

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Doesn't make sense.

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But then you've got do gooders who say, we don't want fracking in our area. It's like, well, building houses, isn't it?

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The question is, do you wanna pay high prices for your fuel?

2 (20m 11s):

Yeah. Well, its like building houses. It's the same problem there.

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Yeah. We don't want it on our doorstep.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. We, and this is it. I mean, we need houses. We need all this, we've got to become energy sufficient as soon as possible. Because with what's happening in the world nowadays, I mean, you've got Russia, you've got this happening in, in Africa now. Yeah. Russia is in Africa. The Wagner group. I, now I'm getting into it. But you, you look and you think it's a very unstable world. Yeah. Because he's not done the grain agreement again, renew that our grain price is gonna go up, which it will do. so that means bread, cereals, everything's gonna go up again. Yeah. We're gonna get, I mean,

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People don't realize how much of a, the, the European bread basket Ukraine was or is Yeah. The amount of grain that they produce. And it, and it's, and that's why the prices have gone up for, for food.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. It's one of them. One of the reasons there's lots of others, but that's one of the main reasons is that they can't get the grain out of Ukraine. Yeah. What they should be doing is because it used to come out in the ships out of Odessa. Odessa's been blocked off. Yeah. What it should do is, is have trucks running in and outta Ukraine and making it easy for those trucks to go and pick up the grain to bring out Yeah. Yeah. Whether they, they must still be doing it. 'cause that's how they, they, they've done it in the past, but they need a lot more trucks. And then that runs into another problem. There ain't enough truck drivers.

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It's a catch 22, because people don't want to go into that industry. It's, it's, it's hard work. The legislation that there's so many pressures put on drivers that why would they want to drive for peanuts when they can go and get a job in a warehouse or in this country? They can go in the dole, get as much money for, for sitting on their ads.

2 (22m 17s):

Yeah. Yeah. The, the, the, this is a problem. you know, the the complete system is all wrong, you know, So. yeah. But we're, we're, we're talking about this just stop oil, you know, at the protest. Yeah. The problems, the cause. And there are better ways, as you've said, protesting

1 (22m 37s):

If you wanna make a difference. Yeah. Go stand for for Election. Yeah. It's as simple as that. And that's what they should be doing. But you know, they, they're sort of middle class idiots really, that have got nothing better to do with the time. Yeah. So there's students that have been fed all these garbage in university now they're on holiday for 12 weeks, so they've got the time on their hands to go and do it. And then you've got these idiot old age pensioners that are joining in as well. Yeah, yeah,

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It does.

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So should we move on? Yes. Let's have a look at, let's have a look at the next thing. Migrant crisis Illegal migrants. Ooh, yes. I mean, this, this is, is, this is really starting to get out of hand. It's costing the UK taxpayer somewhere around about 8 million pounds every single day. That's just, that's just a little tiny bit.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. Back in 20 21, 20 5,000 Illegal migrants came into the country across the channel in 20 22, 40 6,000 Illegal migrants came into the country. And in 2023, so far this, this year, I'm checked the latest figures. But we, we've surpassed last year's figure. And we, we, we are looking like this year's gonna be another record somewhere about 65 to 80,000 Illegal migrants coming across the channel.

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Yes. That is a vast number, isn't it? you know, and it's,

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It's, it's, we, we,

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We

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Can't It unsustainable.

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Yeah. It is unsustainable. Because, you know, because they're Illegal they should be sent back straight away.

1 (24m 41s):

Absolutely. I mean, the bit I don't get is, is they're picking these, these buggers up in the channel on the French side of the channel and bringing them to the UK. Yeah. Yeah. Why can they not pick 'em up on the French side of the channel and land them back in France?

2 (24m 59s):

Yeah. Yeah.

1 (24m 60s):

The law's there to do it. The agreement's there to do it. They should be doing that. They should be landing them back in France.

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Yeah. But, but this is the problem, isn't it? That it, it, yeah. All, it all boils down to money. And if you Yeah. Want safety, you stop in the, in the first country that you can get asylum them. Well, because of our system, you know, where, where we pay out all this money to 'em, give them houses instead of giving them to our own homeless people. I mean, as soon as they get arrive in the country, they get a full m o t at the medical center or at the hospitals.

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And this is the problem that you look and you think to yourself all that all those resources are taken away from us or UK citizens that pay the tax. And this is where it's all wrong because they arrive in France or whichever other country, that's where they should apply. They shouldn't be coming over it. I believe in legal migration, you know, if they've got a cause where they're being persecuted all this war, like the Ukrainians coming over. But it's, most of these Illegal immigrants are for financial reasons.

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They want jobs, they want better standard.

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But the legal, legal migration last year topped up at 1.1 million people came into this country. 0.1 million people came in legally. Yeah. Last year. I mean, that's, that's taken into consideration. The likes of the, the Ukrainians that were fleeing generally women and children, the Afghans that we'd left behind that managed to get themselves out.

2 (27m 4s):

Yeah.

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And of which three of those I've assisted with my local mp

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Yeah.

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To, to, to help them. you know, I mean, they, they were, they were stuck. We left them behind, basically. Yeah. These are guys that work for me when I was out there. Yeah. Yeah. And we, we've been in touch and I managed to get him, we managed to get him out, get him into Pakistan and Iran and, and get 'em brought over here. Yeah, that's fine. I mean, that's, that's what we owe him.

2 (27m 35s):

Hmm. Yeah. We do. Yeah. Yeah.

1 (27m 38s):

But you, you've got the likes of people from Hong Kong have got a right to come here. Yeah. Yeah. And then you've got, I mean, look at the students now, this, this, this doesn't make a lot of sense to me. You've got students coming in from like, the likes of India or China and they're bringing families with them. Why? The idea of gonna university is that you, you leave the nest, you go home. Yeah, yeah,

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Yeah, yeah. Agreed on that. But this is it. This is people in it, you know, it's, it's, they shouldn't allow it, you know? No, definitely not stuck at source and say No, if you go to university in this country, you'll leave your family back. You don't take it

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With you. And then when you finish your course, your return to where you come from. Yeah. And it's as simple as that. Yeah. Yeah. You don't give an extra couple of years to stay here to No, you finish your degree, you bugger off end of story.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. you know, I mean, Tony Blair had this Brilliant idea of, of every kid should be able to go to university. I mean, they wanted, what was it, 50% to go to go onto higher education uni. Why? When, when we've never had that. It's always been sort of between the 10 and 20% of kids that have gone on to university and now they've got all these Mickey Mouse type degree courses that Yeah. They're never, ever a never gonna get a job with b, never gonna be able to earn enough to pay back tuition fees.

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That and, and all the rest that they've been given.

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Yeah. Yeah. Agreed on

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That. That that needs to stop. They, they, that that comes off. Yeah. So we've gone off the top topic again, So yeah. Off the back of these Illegal migrants. But this, this is something that really should stop. And this is migrant Lawyers telling their legals how to get around our laws.

2 (29m 49s):

Yeah. Yeah.

1 (29m 51s):

That is wrong. Yeah. And. that, that is so many levels. That is, that is wrong. Why are these Lawyers doing it?

2 (30m 1s):

Mm. Well, I mean, for, for for money. Yeah. And, and, and, and costly Illegal immigrants can't pay the Lawyers. They're get any from the UK government. Are they really?

1 (30m 17s):

How, how does that make any sense? Whatsoever? You come into the country illegally, you get free everything. If you get free accommodation, free phones, free food, free healthcare, and then on top of that, they give you legal aid to fight the government. And you've come in illegally, right?

2 (30m 44s):

Yeah.

1 (30m 44s):

Yeah. Some, an average citizen steps outta line in this country isn't entitled to, to legal aid.

2 (30m 53s):

No, no, no. I know

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They've foot themselves.

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Yeah. It's absolutely,

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I wouldn't pay into the system. And it doesn't, it doesn't work for us.

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Yeah. No, no, no. It doesn't. Definitely not

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That that needs to change.

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Yeah. Yeah. It,

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And I think if Reform UK get in, they will change that. They will tie up all these, fill in all these loopholes.

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Yeah. Do

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It. Just do it. Anyway, before we jump on. Too much of a a soapbox.

2 (31m 26s):

Yes.

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Shall we move on to the next subject?

2 (31m 30s):

Yes. Yes. Here

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We go. Tax on alcohol rises today. Oh, is frozen. Don't

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Tell me that. Me g and t me gin's gonna go up every time I go to the supermarket. I'm gonna have to cut down. I'm gonna, instead of having two bottles a week, it's gonna have to be one bottle. I

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Know. It's crazy. How can we afford, how can we afford to keep paying taxes on our alcohol? Yeah.

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Yeah. I

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Mean, my alcohol consumption's gonna take a nose dive. We can't afford it.

2 (31m 58s):

No, no, no. You've gotta cut back somewhere, aren't you? you know, so.

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Absolutely.

2 (32m 2s):

Yeah. So will it be the heating back to oil and gas? Yeah. So, so we won't be those,

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Is it gonna be heating or drinking?

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Yeah, drinking.

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Because

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A glass of g and t warms the inside. So Absolutely.

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I won't need

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The glass

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Of spice from, doesn't go am miss.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is it. Yeah. So how, how much are they putting it up Tim? Because I haven't had the TV on and I haven't,

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I've not seen the percent of that. It's gone up. But this was in the last budget.

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Yeah.

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But they, they, they've frozen the, I think you'll save about 12 pence on a pint of beer.

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Yeah.

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So, so so beer in pubs is not gonna go up. Yeah. But everything else is spirits and wines going up So. it is a catch 22 on that.

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Yeah, yeah. Yeah. But you know, it, it's gonna affect us. 'cause you are a drinker. You like a, a glass.

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Oh, I do. Like me, I do like a little drop.

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Yeah. Yeah. Same as me. I do. you know, so I mean, yeah. Yeah. I don't drink outside, but when I come home, I enjoy a drink to relax. It owes me to relax. Yeah. Outdoor, you, you,

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It's, it's really expensive to go out for an evening in the pub nowadays. Yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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It's, I mean, if you go out in London, you, you looking at about seven, eight pound for a pint

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Fine. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

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And the province is, I mean, down here I think you're paying 4 50, 5 50 a point.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Somewhat like that. I, I don't know how much your spirit is. 'cause I mean, as I say, I never buy anything. 'cause

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Well, if, if you, you get a single, it's a, I mean, you could barely taste it. It's a tiny, tiny, tiny Yeah. However, I mean, you, you drink at home. I mean, it's, it sort two fingers of gin.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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We used to call it a we wendy measure, which is like two fingers of gin. Yeah, yeah. A a really good friend of ours, I mean, she died a few years ago, but I used to to drink with her regular and Yeah. Yeah. A Wendy measure was, you know, mean the, the average person, they'll be smashed off to the first half a glass.

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Yeah.

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Well, there you go. That's, so that's, that's the tax on alcohol going up today. Yeah,

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Yeah. Fancy that though. you know. I mean, you know, first of all, it's going up, you know. Yeah. I'll tell you what we, we, what we've discussed so far. Is there any good news around

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Possibly this is what this, this leads on to, to sort of the taxes going up now, tougher sentences handed out for shoplifters.

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Yeah.

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Have you seen this in the news? I mean, shoplifters are, now you have to be captured, you have to be charged 50 times before you're sent to prison for Shoplifting.

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Yeah.

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It's, it's encouraging. Right. Police don you. Yeah. The, the police don't, don't turn out No. To these events anymore. Yeah. You get shoplifters for Shoplifting to order.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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You can, you give 'em a shoplift and they'll go nick it for you.

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Yeah. I, I see on the news the other night where those youth or whoever they were raiding the co-op and Yeah. you know, the, the phone up, the police don't, don't attend So, you are encouraging crime criminals to do just as a, like that, that's another topic because I, I think the justice system is

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All wrong.

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Yeah. I, I think I, I'm a great believer is like that type of crime or if you steal from somebody, you should be made to pay back what you've stolen. If you can't pay it back, you wait for that person until the debt is paid off. I don't believe in throwing them straight in prison because the No,

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I I quite like the Saudi Arabian punishment for Yeah. Stealing. They, they cut your left hand handoff.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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That de deserve them for stealing.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But when you look at that, that must deter people

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Because of course. Yeah. I mean, don't, don't, you don't in Saudi Arabia, that's for sure. Yeah,

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, you know, I know people go on about the human rights, but if you steal or commit a crime Yeah. You shouldn't have any human rights.

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No.

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You know, because I mean, alright. People can say, well, I'm stealing because I can't afford to feed me family. Yeah. But there's other way. That's,

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That's been way beyond that. Nowadays. Nowadays it's, it's, it's, it's organized crime. Yeah. Yeah. And that's what it's, it's organized crime. And these, these criminals, these, these shoplifters are doing it to waterland and on a massive scale. Yeah. They'll go in and clear a shop out.

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Yeah.

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And, and, and all that does is put the prices up for everybody else. Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Or the shop will go under, if it's a small retailer, they'll go under. Yeah. And the police would

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Say about it. Can we just say hello to Marcus? 'cause he's just joined us in the street. Alright.

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Morning Marcus. I'm Marcus.

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Good morning to you. And how are you doing a good video. Did, did, just getting off the subject a minute, Tim. 'cause Marcus is in. Yeah. Did did you watch Marcus's video on fear that he I did. He's,

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Yeah, he's, he's bit on about a procrastination and I'm worried about making it perfect. Well, I mean, we are doing this and we're perfect, so, oh wait,

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I, I didn't think

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I can Charlie, I think this looks rather professional myself.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't, I don't think we're perfectionist. We're, we're not. There's no one perfect, perfect in this world. We're, we're all one perfect. And we all do our best. And

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Absolutely. That,

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That's all you can do. And it is all about personality. If you've got a great personality, it's gonna come across on these lives eventually. And you're gonna grow. Yeah. We, we are trying to do this every week, Marcus, on a Tuesday morning Yeah. About what's in the news and as we're just talking about now is tougher sentences to be handed out for shoplifters. Hmm. Yeah. Nah, absolutely. Yeah. But, but there should be, so Absolutely. What type of sentences, what type of sentence would you put out then? Tim.

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I would make them a lot harsher. And instead of, I mean, if you get, if you get caught for something and you, and you eventually, 'cause it takes a long time to go to court and of courts dish out a, a, a punitive sentence, then something there needs to be done as well. Because the, it is not a deterrent anymore. And what it should do is make prison life a lot harsher. Hmm hmm. Given, I mean, we used to have, what do they call it?

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Oh, odd labor. Yeah, yeah. You get a sentence with odd labor. Yeah. And you make them work for it.

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Yeah. Yeah. Well, I, I agree with you. Yeah.

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Nowadays they, they, they get televisions, they get internet, they get, they get their phones. No. Take all of that away. Make it a deterrent. Make it hard. Yeah. That's what I would say.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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Anyway, talking about sort of prison sentences and stuff like that. Should we move on slightly? Yeah. Now this guy, David Hunter was sent to prison for, for a Mercy Killin, yeah. Was his wife or something like that was in

2 (40m 39s):

Yeah,

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58 terminal. They were terminal anyway. Yeah. Yeah. And he just assisted to die, put 'em out. Misery. I mean, you don't let animals suffer. Like we, we make humans suffer. If, if somebody's got a terminal condition, then there should be something in place for euthanasia. Switzerland's got the right idea and I'm sure Marcus will agree on that. Yeah. So, so in Switzerland you can, you can get assisted dying. Yeah.

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Well, there, there, there again in this country and most of the western world, you've got the do-gooders who say no. Yeah. Let 'em suffer. Let 'em suffer. I mean, all I can say is that I saw a, a friend who had cancer and they were in a lot of pain and he asked his partner at the time Yeah. To take his life. But for she wouldn't. But fortunately enough, he didn't survive that much longer. you know, although he was in a lot of pain. And as you say, if an animal's in pain, you just go to the vet, a quick injection, And, that's it.

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Put

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It down

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And put it down. And if you've got no quality of life and you are in that much pain and morphine and the pain don't work, I think I would ask somebody. Absolutely.

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I mean, we used used to have something called the, the liver Liverpool care plan.

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Yeah.

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And effectively that is what it was. It it was assisted. Mm. Somebody's so much pain, they were terminal anyway. They just give 'em a little bit more morphine and until they pass. Mm

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Mm

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But all the do good has jumped on that and said, can't do that. Now they call it palliative care.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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Which is pretty much the same thing.

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Yeah. But I I, I look at what, what's happened in Cyprus there. I mean Yeah. He's, he got a two year sentence because he's saved the two years. So, but that should never have gone to court. No. I mean,

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Absolutely not. He,

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He, he, his wife begged him 50 years in marriage. He took her life and he was gonna take his own life. But he wasn't successful in that. He wasn't quick enough. No. And I look and I think to myself, that man is gonna suffer for the rest of his life. 'cause he's lost his partner of 50 years. But saying that on his conscience, he should think to herself. Well, I, it was a blessing. I have helped her. Yeah. you know, she's at rest, she's at peace now, but he is gotta live with that and Yeah. It, it's gonna be on his conscience for the rest of his life.

2 (43m 33s):

All right. I know. He,

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I I, I, I think he's comfortable with that decision. Yeah.

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Because

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He made that decision and, and 50 years of living with somebody, you know him inside out and and he must love her to bits Yeah. To be able to do that for her.

2 (43m 48s):

Yeah. Yeah. So,

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And then what happened to him was just wrong. I mean, it shouldn't have gone to court. It, it shouldn't have been investigated. It it, she was terminal anyway. Right. Yeah. And if somebody's got a terminal, terminal illness, illness, then they should have the opportunity Yeah.

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To,

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So to have their life terminated.

2 (44m 9s):

Yeah. So I'm gonna ask you Tim, because your previous wife, she suffered with cancer. Yeah. Did she ever ask you, did she ever get to that stage where she asked you?

1 (44m 21s):

We discussed it. Yeah. Yeah. And, and yeah, we discussed it And that last, the last week of her life. She's, she was in intensive care. Her heart rate was banging away 180 beats a minute. Yeah. They tried to defi to, to bring it back in. But it was, it was, the problem was the cancer came back a second time and it was far more aggressive. And I hadn't realized. Yeah. What I, what I tried to do was do a, a stem cell transplant on a, and basically she caught an infection when she had no immune system whatsoever, And that and, but the cancer would've got her.

1 (45m 13s):

Yeah. It was horrible, horrible to see go through it. Obviously there's so much pain that, that last week in intensive care. Yeah. And they, they just put one of these morphine in Yeah. Lost names on So. yeah. Yeah. So I, I was there for that, for it as well. So.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Right till the end.

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Yeah.

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So that's my view, isn't it? Yes. I think it should be allowed.

2 (45m 43s):

Yeah. Yeah. I do. But you know, I don't think that the do-gooders in this country will, the the, there'll always, there'll always be somebody who says, oh

1 (45m 55s):

Christ. Yeah. No, there's so, so many things that Yeah. Should be allowed and, and, and people don't.

2 (46m 3s):

Yeah. Yeah.

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So should we move on to the last subject of this morning? Yes.

2 (46m 8s):

Yes. Yes. By all means, Tim. Yes.

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When will the next general Election be called?

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Well, sometime next year or, I mean, how long? They've got more about another 15 months So it could be

1 (46m 23s):

Next year. Yeah. I think they can drag it out till about, so I think it was about January 25, 5.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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So I, I think, I think they will probably call it somewhere around about October

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Next year. I was thinking more of may, may time next year. 'cause they seem to go for May or October general elections. Yeah. Who do I think is gonna win the next one? That's very odd because we're in a two party system. I don't think there'll be a big majority. I think we could get a Parliament where the little parties may have a say.

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Well, I mean, you know, my feelings, I'm, I'm, I'm a a, a fully paid up member of the Reform UK party. As much as I like my local MP who's a conservative, I can't vote for it Again. I just, I just don't believe the conservatives are conservative anymore. Mm. So my vote will go to Reform UK and I will promote everything I can about Reform UK Yeah. And encourage proper thinking people to look at the policies. Yeah. What I do think is that it, it will be a low turnout.

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People are just so sick of politics at the moment. Yeah. The Conservative Party have got a leader that shouldn't be put in, in the first place. The Labor Party look at their front bench. It, it, it scares me that that lot are likely to hold some sort of power. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that they will have to do some sort of coalition to, to, to get power. It, it, it'll be, it'll be a, a tough, tough one. But all I do think is Reform UK are gonna stand, I think it's 630 candidates across the country.

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Yeah. They're gonna stand a candidate in every single constituency across the country to give people the opportunity for change. Mm. And it's the only way we are ever gonna get change is to get a party in the, that believes in Britain. Mm. The, the crop, what we've got in there at the moment, don't believe in us. Yeah. Yeah. There are a few, the likes of the conservative e r g, the Reese Moogs, the Mark Fran, Fran Francois and, and a few others. But they, like in the majority, in the minority in the, in, in the conservative party, and certainly Labor haven't got anybody that's got any sense whatsoever.

1 (49m 29s):

No. Starer, he flip flops like he's going outta fashion. He, he's got advisors that are looking the news and see what's trending. Yeah. He'll change his policy. I mean, he's just changed the policy on, what was it? He just changed it. Something just recently on an Illegal migration. No, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it So it, it's flopped on that. There's one really on Les. Hes is Oh yeah. It's on the fence with you, Les. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And, and you just know that if they get in, they will have us back in Europe quicker than an heartbeat.

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Yeah. Yeah. And going against the, the the 17.4 million people that voted to leave, they just haven't given us And that that's, that's the problem. No, no, no. 'cause it's only a partial

2 (50m 27s):

Brexit, isn't it really? When you look at it. Yeah.

1 (50m 29s):

It's only a name.

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Yeah. We're still paying for a lot of the things that we used to, and, and, and the problem now is we haven't got a vote.

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If, if we're

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Not at the table,

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What, what we should, what we should do is go full w t o with the eu. Yeah,

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Yeah.

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And just trade on them. Trade the same as we do with the rest of the world.

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World. Yeah. Yeah.

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I mean, we've got that new agreement with the C P P P P P, whatever.

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It's Yeah.

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That's up a massive market for us. And I mean, one positive is the Americans have got an Election next year. Yeah. Hopefully they'll get rid of Biden and get somebody in, wants to do a deal with us. I mean, yeah.

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Whether,

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Whether they'll get Trump back in,

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He gets somebody else. We, we, we're not gonna get a deal because Trump don't want you. Okay. He wants to make America great again. Like

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Yeah. But he'll deal with us. He'll, he'll give us a half decent deal that, that obviously benefits America, but it'll also help benefit us.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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So. Yeah. So you go. That's,

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That's it then. That was, we've had some good topics today discussing

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So. yeah. I mean, we, we've covered most of what's in the, the news at the moment.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So what do you think to these Tuesday morning lives then?

1 (52m 0s):

Oh, good. I think we can carry on.

2 (52m 3s):

Yeah. So do I, you know, I've, I've thoroughly enjoyed being on your channel today discussing these issues that affect everybody. So.

1 (52m 13s):

Yeah. It's just a shame that we couldn't link up your channel. I don't know why, why it didn't work today. We'll have to have a, have a look at that.

2 (52m 20s):

Yeah. I think it's because I'm a on your thingy, Bob, you know, because I can do everything here.

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Yeah.

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You know, I can change the layout and everything. So I think really what I've gotta do is sign out of that because Yeah. And

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Then coming, coming through the link.

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Yeah. I remember when with Gail, 'cause she was a team member when she clicked in, it took it to mine and she couldn't get on ears. So I think this is what's happened again, because I'm a team lead, you know, I'm on your team, so I've gotta get rid of that. And then I come in on my own because the moment I signed in, I'm on yours instead of my string yet.

1 (53m 8s):

Yeah. So, okay.

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That is why. So we will do a test.

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Yeah. And then, and then next week, hopefully we'll be going out on both our channels,

2 (53m 20s):

Our channels. Yeah. So, Thank you for having me and I will be going live sometime today on my own channel for 10 minutes because, or something like that. Because I'm gonna start live streaming every day in August. And I believe you are gonna try and do

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All, gonna have another bash at it. So. yeah. Live without, without later we, yeah. We're gonna do it ourselves.

2 (53m 46s):

Yeah. Yeah. So can you remember what the things were that we could work on doing live streams?

1 (53m 58s):

Oh no. Maybe we,

2 (54m 1s):

Yeah. We'll have to pick a subject and just work on it to get over better. Yeah. Yeah. So we might do quite a few in August together.

1 (54m 12s):

Yeah. Through That's a, that's a good scheme.

2 (54m 15s):

Yeah. Yeah. So thank you. I'll just say thank you to Marcus and look forward to seeing you

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On Thursday.

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If I do a live stream later on, hopefully I'll see you So.

1 (54m 31s):

Yeah. Phone gone off then, so thanks Keith. Catch up with you soon. Well, there you go. That's 1st of August. One done, one down. Let's, let's carry on through the rest of August, doing a live every day and we'll do different subjects and different things. But next Tuesday we'll have another, what's in the news today with Tim and Keith. So until then, T T F n Al,

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