Conversation with Keith & Tim Live Everyday in August Day 4

Conversation with Keith & Tim Live Everyday in August Day 4

We carry on talking about what has been in the news:

The price of fuel rising again
DVLA losing millions due to people not being notified their tax was due
The shortage of water in the Panama Canal
Ai spots a dangerous astroid that just missed the earth
EV's cost has doubled to charge in last 2 years
EV's catch fire
The effect of the Bank of England putting up interest rates once again.

Join the conversation by posting your comments in the chat.

Transcript

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Boom. Oh, in the room. Good evening everybody. 

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Welcome 

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To another live. This is day four. We we're gonna look at the news again. I think that's where we're going tonight. We're gonna have another look at what's trending in the new. So without too much further ado, once you'll bring in the cohost so you meet some of this. And good evening. 

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Good evening there. Tim. Nice to see you. Haven't have you had a a, a busy day? 'cause I believe he was on a, a podcast earlier on doing 

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Oh, I have 

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Had a busy day. 

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Actually this morning I did a, I was just tidying up some bits and pieces and then I popped over to the, the senior rates mess on HMS Victory for, for lunch, for a drink on, on there and take part in the beat raffle again. This week, I didn't win any meat. However, I did get a fiver on, on the football and yeah, one of the guys who was going to, to a pub and he said, yeah, you can have these. And he gave me a dozen eggs. 

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So Cool. That was good 

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Then. So, so I've got a dozen eggs out of it. 

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Yeah. 

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So I had a, that is an egg, an add an egg banjo for me lunch when I got back. So. yeah. Cheers. Cheers. Elf, 

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I've got, yeah, I'm on. Yes, it's live on mine as well, so I'm just checking that everything is working fine. 

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It's all, it's all going on it, it's 

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All going. Good evening, Rebecca. 

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Yeah. Good evening, Rebecca. So we've got Bos in already. So. yeah, we're all over it. 

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Yeah. How, how's the sound, Rebecca? Is that all right? And cheers. I've got a g and t here, so Hope, hope everything. Hope you've got your proce Prosecco. She drinks, I think, think so. I was told, 

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Well, I, I've blessed him in this. I'm on Spice Rum, so, cheers. 

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So it's, we, we know Richard and carer do fish Friday, but because they chose not to do a fish Friday tonight, because they've got other things on. So that's why we thought we'd have a drink tonight. Yes. So Tim, we, we know, we've got quite a few subjects in the news today that 

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Well, yeah. There's, there's a few things that I've picked up on or we've picked up on. 'cause I mean, you've had a look at it and I've added me a couple of pif within 

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So. yeah. 

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So one of the first things I noticed that then over the last couple of days and fuel prices, have you seen the rise in pure prices lately? I heard, yeah. I heard on talk TV that the price of a dollar of a barrel of oil has gone up a couple of dollars. 

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Yeah. 

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Now, pardon me for being too much of a skeptic, but I've got this feeling that the, the garages are very, very quick to put it up. Any hint, any hint of a slight rise in the price of a barrel rise? It's up. 

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Yeah. Yeah. 

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It's been going down for several months, but not at the pumps. 

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Yeah. 

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Have you noticed that? 

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Yes. Yes. Yes. I've, I've noticed that. Yes. 

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They're really slow at passing it on to ask the Panthers. Yeah. And then they're announcing these big profits. 

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Yeah. 

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And so, well, it's not what we get from the pumps, it's, it's sort of refining and all the rest of it. Yeah. Right. 

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Yeah. 

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Yeah. Like we, like we believe that. 

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Yes. It's 

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Even 

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In, even in my area, it's gone up by three pence, I think. 

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Yeah. I mean, shell round here it was 1 49 0.9, so one 50 a liter for diesel for several weeks. And I noticed that this morning it's gone up to 1 53 0.9. So they've, they've oed it for pence a liter in the last few days. Yeah. Now, are they profiteering or are they taking with our good nature? 

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Yeah, it seems to be, isn't it really? 

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Yeah, it's, I, I, I think, I mean, I go, I go and fill up over it in Southampton. I go over to Costco. Yeah. And Costco generally is about 15 pence, a liter cheaper than the Shell garage over there. Cool. It's always about 15 pence a liter. I save around about six pounds, seven pounds a a fill up. 

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Yeah. 

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That's a lot. Yeah. I mean, that makes a big difference. I mean, me being a, a pensioner and all that. Yeah. And, and I would suggest anybody that if they, if they live near a, a Costco and if they're a veteran or if they can get a hold of a blue light card, you can get a discount on joining. Yeah. And I, I would suggest join Costco just for the fuel. It makes a lot of sense. Especially if you fill it up fairly regular. 

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Yeah. 

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Have we got a few Tony's in? Yeah. 

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Has Richard's come on? 'cause he says he can't come on. He's been trying to get in on the link. 

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Ah, he ain't got the right link. 

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Well, it's the one you sent me, so. Oh, 

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Right. So. it should be able to get in. So if it's the same link as I'll give you today that you're coming on today. Yeah. Yeah. It shouldn't be a problem. 

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Yeah. So. 

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Yeah. So it 

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1 43 for diesel. Yeah. It's up to 1 47 Tony. Yeah. And Baz has said hi. Hi, Tim. Or how are you? Tim? 

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I'm all right. Thanks, Baz. Yeah, I'm doing okay at the moment. We've had a reasonably good day. I've been over to h m s victory to the senior h mess of where I'm a, an associate member Sunday night we have an associate's evening. Yeah. So we're having a quiz and we have a, an American buffet where we all take bits and pieces and we all take something for the, for the raffle prize. So it's, it's a really sociable thing over there. Yeah. What else have we got going on? So, fuel prices. 

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I mean, I believe that the, the fuel companies are taking liberties with our good nature. 

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Yeah. Yeah. So do I definitely. 

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And you can't do without it. 

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No, no. I mean, as soon as fuel prices go, everything else goes up. So it's gonna Yeah. 

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It it's a knock on. 

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Yeah. I mean, yeah. 

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You, you take the average truck, a truck uses roundabout about three to four. That's three to four miles to the gallon, was it? Yeah. May, maybe it does a little bit better than that nowadays. Yeah. But I mean, we, we, we used to get no three, three or four miles to the liter. Yeah. So you, you're getting four miles to the liter out of the fuel. Imagine how much a truck takes when they fill up. They've got 3, 400, 500 liters. 

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Yeah. 

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And it doesn't take 'em very far before they got fill up again. And they're paying similar prices to We are. Yeah. So the haulage companies have to redeem the cost somehow else. They, they, they'll go out business and lots of 'em have gone to the wall because of the price of fuel goes up, the price of being undercut by foreign trucks. Foreign truck comes in the, this country, they don't pay any road tax. They, they generally come in with cheaper fuel on board and they don't buy fuel here. So they're smashing up our roads. They're not contributing any tax. 

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Yeah. 

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Yeah. 

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Our haulers for, for, for a truck. They're paying about, well it used to be about 5,000 pounds a year road tax on a four by two truck. Yeah. Then they've got their, their insurance on top of that, and that's about five grand. They paying out an awful lot before they turn the wheel. Yeah. And foreign trucks, I mean, it was, it was bad when we was in the EU 'cause there was so much sabotage going on. So many UK firms went to the war because they couldn't compete. 

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Yeah. Yeah. And it's, it's gonna now, isn't it really when, when you look at it, it, with fuel prices rising? I mean you, you look at a, a business like Wilkinson's Yeah. Going outta business. They're going into administration with perhaps with a loss of 1200 jobs. And it's all because of the cost of delivering the, the things that they sell in the shops. And staff wanted bigger wage rises and so forth like that. So, 

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And also the cost of heating and lighting. 

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Yeah. Yeah. 

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I mean the cost. Yeah. 

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I mean, when you look, 

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Firms haven't got fortune. Yeah. Firms didn't get the same rebate that we got as individuals. Companies are still getting hit with massive, massive fuel bills. They, they're gas in the electrics. Why are you way over the top? What we're doing, how any company and, and that's why everything for us is going up because they're having to pass on their costs else. They'll end up out business and we'll all end up with nothing. So, so there you go. 

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Oh, Richard's playing games tonight. Carrie's on the UHC playing Sims and Richard's playing Fallout 76 on the Xbox. He's been on it for five hours. I hope he's been streaming it. 

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Well Yeah. Break himself that will. 

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 

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So shall we move on to our next topic then before? Yes. By all means jump off the soapbox And that fuel prices. 

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Yeah. 

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So, you picked up on this one. D V L A notifications as loss of revenue. 

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Yeah. Yeah. Because it's, it's a case of starting this month that the D V L D V L A are now sending reminders to pay Rotax. Because over in, well, I mean it's, it's got figure eight of hundred 19 million was not paid in the year 2020 because people didn't get reminders that their road licenses were due. I mean, it's like for the last two years I haven't had a notification or any letters. It's only that I know when my road taxi is due and I just go on and pay it. 

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you know, so that, so they also found out that over 56% of vehicles have been unlicensed on the roads in the last six months. So it's a case of you've got to get, you've got to sign up for the service and they take your details and your driving license and national insurance number when you sign up. But I think everybody should do that really? Because it's a case of getting a reminder is the best way, you know, you should be able to then Yeah. 

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Well, you know, well i, I do mine by direct debit. Yeah. so that, the first thing I know is that this hundred 60 qui gotta help me bank. Yeah. And on my motorbike, when I set it up as a direct debit, click the wrong button. 

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Yeah. 

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So now I have to pay it. They take it every month. Yeah. For the bike. So it's 

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Just like, to welcome Gail into the stream. I will call you Gail as soon as the stream's finished. We're planning on going on for 45 minutes. That's all. So what'd she say? So here is the thing on those vehicles insure insur insured scary. Yeah. Well, I mean, if you haven't paid your road tax, you're not insured. 

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Yeah. It's crazy. 

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She's not. So, so when's the best time to phone you then? If you're not gonna be around tonight, Gail? 'cause we've gotta arrange the Sunday evening show. Sorry, Tim about that. That that's alright. You only third year. Yeah, it's, it's like mine, Tony. I pay what, 25, 20 pound a year. My road tax. So that's 

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Basically, 

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Yeah. Well I've got a 66 And that if I'd got one type of thing, thing a year older or younger, shall I say 2017, it'd been 125 So. yeah. That's why And, you know, I've got, I've got what, 38,000 on the clock so that, that's gonna last me till 

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Whenever passed away or 

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To whenever Yeah, whatever. On the juneteenth tonight. 

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I, I I was paying, I I was paying 30 pound a year for my series one B M W and then I changed it for an X one because I was struggling at getting in and out of the, the serious one. And it went up to hundred 60 pound a year. Yeah. 

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I'm paying 

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About, that's it. I think I'm paying about 90, 90 pound or something for, for the multi strata for the bike. Yeah. And I'm not paying anything at all for the Bantam. 

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Yeah. Yeah. Not yet. 'cause it's not in the road. And you won't 

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Well no, it's, it's, it's all, it's already, it's all it is taxed and insured to go on the road doesn't need an M O t. Yeah. It doesn't need tax. But you have to register it for tax, if that makes sense. Yeah. So, you have to, it has to be registered. I was gonna say 

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It's a classic isn't it? 

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Classic. It's a classic 1961. Oh, so I'm older, isn't it? Yeah. 

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I've just thought about another subject about what, what do you think about the bottles of spirits going up? I mean, I got another 

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Bottle. Outrageous. 

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Yeah. I got another bottle of gin today and it had gone up 79 pence. 

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That's outrageous. So how can they do that to us? 

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Yeah. so that means I've gotta cut down, you know, I mean, instead of having a top like that of, of gin in, I've after it. No, I haven't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't. 

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Three fingers of gin to one finger. 

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Yeah. Oh yeah. That'll, that's the day. So I've lost the track. Oh yeah. Yeah. 

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D v a So So. yeah. So part of the problem with the D V A as I can see it, is that after the staff work from home So. yeah. So then they're not chasing people. They're not encouraging people to, to what's name it. Are they? 

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No, no. No. So 

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So they've only got themselves to blame. 

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Yeah. Oh, time for a boost cruise. Now that's a good idea. Absolutely. 

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Yeah. 

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Because I know you are not long before you go over to the states. I mean, you could always just fetch a bottle of gin back with you, you know, for an old man like me, you know, testing a she'll tell me off on Sunday, 

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You can actually now bring back four liters of spirit. Which is good. 'cause I did, when I battlefield study tour, I came back and I bought four bottles of spirit back with me. Mainly spice from, 

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Spice from, so I bet when you go away next you'll be fetching the same amount back. Will you? We're not booers. Absolutely 

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Gail. 

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We just like a tequila is what I'm bringing back. Oh, she's fetching a tequila back then. Oh. 

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Just like a little chicken 

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Can FET back will you as well. 

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So anyway, that, that's, that's the, the troubles that the strife for the old D V L A. Yeah. And they've gotta send notifications out if they want to get paid. 

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Yeah. 

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But the other side of that is if somebody has forgot to pay the, the, the road fund license and it gets picked up on these AP P N R police cameras, they can get nicked. 

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Yeah, yeah. I know. Yeah. Yeah. And you're driving without insurance. So you got no insurance, you've got no road tax. you know, it's about hand that they got those type of people off the road. But that's, they, 

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They, they do lots of stings. We see 'em out occasionally and you can see 'em pulling people over and, and nicking them and, and taking their cars away and crushing them quite right. Yeah. Anyway, shall we look at in the next subject, the next piece of news? 

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Yes. 

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So the next piece of news we're gonna look at is the Panama canal and water shortages. Now you can tell us a little bit about it's can't you Keith? 

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Yes. Well I, I saw on the news that these water shortages in the Panama canal, so they are cutting the ships down the number of ships that go through the Panama canal. And so that will mean a loss of revenue for the Panama canal of 150 million. But I wonder why there's a water shortage. Fresh water supplies the lakes that in turn fill the locks in the canals. But there hasn't been enough fresh water. so that, I presume it doesn't say, it didn't say in the, on the news bit. 

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Yeah. But I presume that's because they haven't had a, a lot of rain over there. It's, yeah, it it, oh yeah, it is. I've just found it. It's because, yeah, the dry season has run a lot longer than they usually do. So I wonder, 

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I wonder if we can send in some of our rain. 

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Yeah, yeah, that's what I was thinking. Tim you know, that you, you look and you think to yourself in this country our, in the last month, I mean, due July really, it's in the washout and it's 4th of August and it's still a washout. Well 

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That's, that's 'cause the kids are on, that's the kids are kids are on holiday, isn't it? However, I said that, I mean this is down to global boiling, isn't it? 

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Yeah. Yeah. 

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If we, if we give them some of our rain, we'll we'll have hose pipe bands. Oh yeah, yeah. I think we've already got, yeah. 

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We've already put a, a good comment on could this be down to the drought in the area? Yeah, it is. Down to I 

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Can show they in the area. 

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Yeah, I could do that. Plus the ocean temperature is at the highest level it's ever been at. Yes. It has scale. That is the, this is it. Excellent that when people and politicians and the do gooders say that there is no warming, like someone who wants to be president again in 2024, he doesn't believe in global warming. 'cause if he gets back in power, it'll be more coal being burnt in the states and he'll pull out of all the ratifications or whatever agreements that they've made with other countries. 

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So I'll pull it over to you now, Tim, what do you think? 

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I I do, you know, these, these climate, what do we call 'em? These, these climate experts? Yeah. Pick and pick and choose what bits of the climate they look at. Now, if you take it as from as far as you can see, and they've done a, yeah, they've done a bit of this. They've drilled down into the, the A, the a, the, the Arctic. And they, they've analyzed all the, the, the worst names over the years and all the rest of it. And it's only the last sort of hundred years or so that they've actually been measuring it. 

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The, the temperatures. But what they, what what they do nowadays is they pick and choose which bits they, they they're telling you and, and trying to, to prove. I mean they were saying that the other week that all these fires are are spontaneously combusting Well, yeah. With matches. They, they, I mean they, they have, they have wildfires down there every year. And it's the same in, in, in the like of California and other places that Australia, that, that have a dry climate. They, and there's a reason that they, they have these wildfires 'cause it regenerates stuff. 

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It does do stuff. Good to have to, to burn out all the old deadwood and all the rest of it. And then, then you get new growth comes in after it. 

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Yeah, yeah. And that 

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Happens every year. But yeah, they, they, they put a spin on it. 

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Yeah. So, 

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And, and that's, that's the bit that that really niggles is that they, they they, they manipulate it to their own ends. Yeah. And, and what they're trying to do is cost us the taxpayer more money. Mm. Anyway, so climate, climate change happens regardless. You take what's happened Iceland, they've got a, a volcano that's spewing out at the moment that's spewing out more carbon dioxide than, than the in holiday, the industrial revolution. And since So So it happens Naturally. 

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Anyway, besides, we need carbon dioxide for the plants to be able to live. 

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Yeah. And if we, so if 

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We, if we go totally carbon neutral, we'll be in real stuck. 

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Yeah. So Rebecca says, where's the cat tonight? She knows where Rich is. 'cause Rich is playing a game. 'cause I did send him a link, Rebecca 

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Oh, oh, to the ships cat. He's, I think he's out hunting at the moment. Oh, it came in with a pigeon the other morning. 

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Yes, I know. Yes. I dunno 

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What happened to the pigeon. I can't find it anywhere. It must have flown off. 'cause I don't think he would've eaten it quick enough. 

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It was only, oh well let's 

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Only a couple of minutes. But there were quite a few feathers knocking around. 

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Yeah. So what's the next subject then? That we're the 

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Next subject. Oh, let's have a look. Oh, AI spotted a dangerous astroid that just missed the earth last year. 

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Yes. Yes. 

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Now nobody shouted at about at the time, but this AO found it. 

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Yeah. 

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Artificial intelligence. It says it found found an astroid. Yeah. 

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Yeah. It says so that it says here, it, it, it revealed 2022 gn one flew relatively close 4.5 million miles from the eighth in September, 2022. And it was discovered by artificial intelligence and the algorithms, the new algorithm that they are using. And the astroid was 600 foot in diameter climbing So. it was a very, very close shave. But it was last year. So, I mean, he's in the past. 

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But it just shows you that AI can be useful. you know, I mean, people have been going on about AI for 

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The last six. What if, what if we found it in August last year and told us about it. 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well that would, 

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We've gone into Absolute blind panic with the would would they got, I mean, would they turn it into a movie? Send it out, well turn everything, knock it off course and stuff. 

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Yeah. The, they turn everything into a movie. So we might have a movie produced by AI in the future. Because as you know, that's, 

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That's what's going on in, in, in America at the moment with, with all the, the screenwriters and the actors going on strike. Because what effectively is going on is that they'll, they'll use 'em once to get their AI picture and then they don't need to use 'em again. So they, the, the studios are saying, well, we don't need to pay you your royalties because we're using ai. So that's what's going on. Yeah. But 

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Yeah. But this is it, it is gonna take over the quite a few jobs. But then you've got the other side of AI that it can, the algorithms can detect or find things like this astroid near earth objects also. It can be very useful in medicine. They'll, you know, I mean at, I did read about that how useful AI is. you know, that there was a bit on the news the other day about breast cancer. you know, that AI can detect it far better than a human being. 

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So you could be detected quicker through AI than a normal human being. 'cause it takes two where the AI can pick it up a lot better and a lot quicker. So it could save lives basically. So. yeah. But it, I mean, it, it's, 

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It can be, it's, it's a funny old thing. Ai I mean, it can do all sorts of weird and wonderful things and it could possibly turn against us. I mean, you look at what happened with in Terminator. Yeah. And what, because that was AI and Yeah. That all turned against us. 

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Yeah. So randoms just put another one question questioning or another good bit. And it says, so what does everyone think of the area 51? Who believes in aliens? So Tim I'll ask you, do you believe in aliens or do you believe in terrestrial life? Possibly. 

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I reckon if you take our universe, we can't be the only living things on it. There's gotta be something else out there in other galaxies, in other, I mean, star Wars, look at it. They, they've come up with 

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Yeah. 

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00:31:05

Mandalorian 

2  

00:31:05

What you was what and what you was 

1  

00:31:08

Watching Yeah. Was watching Mandalorian, the latest epi, the latest series of Mandalorian there, there has to be more out there. We can't be the only living things in this whole universe. 

2  

00:31:21

Yeah. So. yeah. 

1  

00:31:23

Sooner or later they're gonna come and get us. 

2  

00:31:26

Yeah. So Rebecca believes in Aliens Random said AI could detect aliens in the future. Yeah. Tony said area 51 closed, move north to area 52. Tony, he's precise. I will give him that. Move north to area 52. That was good. Oh. Oh. And Richard says, I am an alien. Does he 

1  

00:31:57

Mean reckon that's Cora actually, because Richard's on a, on his gaming machine or whatever. 

2  

00:32:05

Yeah. No, he's he's watching the live stream on YouTube now. Oh, right. On the Xbox on his phone, I think. Yeah. you know, Rebecca's missed you, you know that Richard, you know, we, we we missed this Friday. That's what we've missed tonight at a past six. Yes. So he's got effective back. Yeah. 

1  

00:32:25

Okay. That's, that's what we are drinking. Ship check the ship out 

2  

00:32:35

Car. What's that? Probably me. And it wasn't pretty So. yeah, So. 

1  

00:32:44

Yeah. so sorry Ai AI spotted stuff out in space. Wicked. And nearly us 45,000 million miles away. 

2  

00:32:53

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it didn't spot it, it was the algorithm that it says that 

1  

00:33:00

There should be something there. So So it So it might not have been, it might have been making it up. I 

2  

00:33:09

Wouldn't like to say. I definitely wouldn't like to say, 

1  

00:33:11

I mean, ai ai I mean, you can ask AI to do something and it make something up for you 

2  

00:33:17

So. yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, as we all know, could, 

1  

00:33:20

Could be that. 

2  

00:33:23

So Gail's just asked me, so do I believe in aliens? I believe in other forms of life. Yes, I do. Very, very much so. 

1  

00:33:35

I mean, et et had the phone home, didn't he? Yeah. Yeah. And he got Yoda. 

2  

00:33:44

So do I believe there's life on all the planets? I don't know on that, but I definitely believe there are other life forms besides us in this vast universe. 

1  

00:34:02

There must be, there must be something else out there. But, 

2  

00:34:06

But, but because of the vastness, there's no way really we are ever gonna find out. Because unless they can find another form of propulsion, there's no way are we gonna get there. Unless the c unless like star at Stargate, the they can do a Stargate but 

1  

00:34:29

Then dive in, dive into a black hole. 

2  

00:34:32

Yeah. But, but then if, if you've got a Stargate on Earth, it would mean that you would have to put one on another place. So how long would that take to get there? you know, So you 

1  

00:34:47

Go, 

2  

00:34:48

I find it a very interesting subject because you know, whe when you really think about it, that if we could build the Stargate or any, anything like that, how long would it take before you could get another one built on another whale? Then you've gotta have another one built somewhere else in another galaxy. Or even if we just keep it to our galaxy, the Milky Way, it would take thousands of years to build system light years 

1  

00:35:18

To get there. Light years. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Should we move on? Should we have another go? Yes. Yes. Right here, here's a little story. EVs cost double to charge in the last two years. So the pro, so all these, these people that have gone out, spent fortune on buying themselves an EV and they're charging up in the public space. It's costing them twice what it did two years ago. 

2  

00:35:51

Yeah. you know, I mean when you think about that, I mean, if you charge a car up at home, that's all right. But it's charging up in public spaces in garages or, you know, double the price of what it was a year ago. And now it's cheaper to fill up with petrol and diesel than it is to charge an EV car up. And Richard, that's why he's got that he's gone back to petrol because Zoe was silly. Yeah. you know, as he's put in the amount I charged that Renault, Zoe was silly. 

2  

00:36:33

I spent more in the pub while charging. So because he felt he charged up at a pub. Because as always, you go into a supermarket and there's always cars parked there that shouldn't be parked on the ev charging. 

1  

00:36:50

Yeah. But 

2  

00:36:52

If you find a free ev charging point, they're usually not working. 

1  

00:37:00

Yeah. And it won't be long before they start putting I can up the tax on them now. Yeah. 

2  

00:37:06

Yeah. 

1  

00:37:06

What what people haven't realized about these EVs are is that an EV vehicle weighs a lot more than a diesel or petrol vehicle. 

2  

00:37:17

Yeah. Yeah. 

1  

00:37:19

So you are putting an awful lot of more strain on the road through each wheel than you are with a normal vehicle. Mm. Because of the weight of them. That tends to break up the, the, the surface and, and we've got enough dramas as it is with potholes and everything without making it worse with all these EVs ruining the road surface. 

2  

00:37:45

Yeah. Tony says Tony, he's open to get an hybrid soon. So. yeah. I I think 

1  

00:37:52

I can tell you about hybrid I can tell you a little bit about hybrid. Now my, my mate out to go in for a service and they loaned me another car for a day and I had a A B M W IX three. It was, it No, it, it was, it was, anyway, it was a hybrid. Yeah. So I had this thing away and I, I had it on charge overnight. It cost me, I think it cost me about 60, 70 p to charge up overnight. Put full charge in it. Yeah. I got 21 miles out of the electric. 

2  

00:38:33

Yeah. 

1  

00:38:34

21 miles outta the electric. Yeah. And then the engine had to kick in because the electric had all gone. 

2  

00:38:42

Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

1  

00:38:43

When I, when I got back and had a chat with a salesman, he said, well, what they'd done is that they, it is directed at the, the corporate market to, to reduce their, their what's names. 'cause they're being eco-friendly and all the rest of it. So they get tax benefits off of having one of these hybrid vehicles. They don't really do that. Well. The, and then, and then the whole thing, the whole the, the sort of buy it for 24 hours and I think the average I got out it was about 30, 20, 29, 30 miles to a gallon charge out. 

1  

00:39:24

Yeah, 

2  

00:39:24

Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

1  

00:39:26

My, my X one, which is a two liter diesel is, is the X drive. So it's four wheel drive. I get around about 58, 60 to the gallon out of that on a run. And that's just run generally running around town on a run. I can get about 68. 

2  

00:39:45

Yeah. 

1  

00:39:45

Yeah. To the gallon. And that's diesel. Yeah. And it's a lot cleaner. A lot more efficient than one of these hybrids So. yeah. Yeah. I would look at at, I mean was it the Euro six diesels? I mean they pretty much strangled their life out of them, but they are efficient. 

2  

00:40:08

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So re so Rebecca's put, so that you as a bus pass. 

1  

00:40:16

Oh, I'll tell you about a bus pass. Now I've got a about this. Tell get Rebecca, I've got right up about this. Not only have I got my until next year when I'm 66 to get my pension state pension, which will be reduced state pension because I opted out and did ERPs, which they said they should do. Yeah. I can't get a bus pass until next year when I'm 66. However, if I lived in Scotland, Wales, or Northern Ireland, I could get it at 60. 

2  

00:40:49

Yeah. 

1  

00:40:49

Yeah. How fair is that? 

2  

00:40:52

Oh it's, 

1  

00:40:52

And on top of that, they're taxing a life outta my army pension. 

2  

00:40:57

Yeah. Yeah. And, and you've saved, saved your country, you know. Yeah. Which is all, all wrong, you know, but I knew I'd get you wound up there Tim, you know, I thought, oh, 

1  

00:41:09

Anyway. Right. Let, let's move on to, to a bit more ev now, I dunno where we saw in the news the other day, I forget what the name of the ship now, but it caught fire and they reckon the cause of it was EVs and it was a lot more EVs on this ship than they, they first thought, they thought there was only about 28 on there. I think there was about 300 on there. Yeah. 

2  

00:41:39

Yeah. Yeah. 

1  

00:41:40

And the problem with when these EVs do catch fire, you've gotta wait for 'em to burn out 'cause you can't put 'em out. Called into the fireman. 

2  

00:41:51

Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean it's, it's like, it's like the scooters that have been going up these electric scooters, you know? Yeah. That people have been riding round on. I mean, people leave them on charge overnight and Yeah. It blows the battery And, you know, and they go that quick And that vicious the fire soon destroy, you know, So, 

1  

00:42:15

You can, you can't put him out. That's the problem. 

2  

00:42:18

Yeah. 

3  

00:42:21

Back book maybe, 

1  

00:42:23

Maybe the Prime Minister's an alien. No, he's Roland Rat. You remember Roland Rat? 

3  

00:42:31

Yeah. You, 

1  

00:42:32

You put a rolling rat in a picture of him. You don't see him in the same room do you? 

2  

00:42:38

No. 

3  

00:42:42

Oh yeah. 

1  

00:42:43

You don't see him together. 

2  

00:42:45

No. No wonder 

1  

00:42:46

What became a 

3  

00:42:48

Yeah. But 

2  

00:42:49

When you look at it, how dangerous they are, you know? Yeah. So I mean could, if it happens on a ship, could it happen when, when you charge in a, say you are charging your car up in the supermarket care pack. I mean usually these supermarkets are quite full. So the damage that would cause 

3  

00:43:14

Whose wrong? 

1  

00:43:16

Right. 

2  

00:43:19

I'll say So. 

1  

00:43:22

Yeah. And, and it's happening more and more often. And they're not then they then don't release in the actual numbers that are catching fire in China. They, they're really big into EVs over there and they're having all sorts of dramas with them and they're not really telling you how how bad it actually is. They're trying to cover it up. And that's why a lot of these countries are pulling back from making everybody buy EVs by 2030 or 2035. In fact Volkswagen, I saw something the other day. 

1  

00:44:02

Volkswagen said they're not gonna build any EVs anymore. 

2  

00:44:07

Yeah. Yeah. 

1  

00:44:08

So whether they're gonna go outta business or whether they're just gonna say, are we gonna carry on building petrol and diesel cars because they're more efficient. 

2  

00:44:18

Guess what? 

1  

00:44:20

Go on. 

2  

00:44:20

I didn't realize that I'm on this live stream with you and I haven't got a share button. So I, so when you are on your stream and it's going out to my stream, I haven't got a share 

1  

00:44:38

Button. You've got preset down the bottom. 

2  

00:44:41

Now, now, now, now I've only got mute stop cam settings and that's it. 

1  

00:44:46

Oh, how bizarre. 

2  

00:44:50

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh yeah. It's under preset isn't it in sorry. Share screen. Oh, there you go. See if I can share, share, 

1  

00:44:58

Share. You share your screen and I'll and I'll pull myself another spiced there we 

2  

00:45:05

Go's. It's not video. It's not a video. It's only Can you see it? It's only rolling and wrapped. Oh yeah. 

1  

00:45:12

Alright. Oh, roll and rat pop. That's 

2  

00:45:15

Rolling and wrapped. 

1  

00:45:17

Hey. Rolling Rat. 

2  

00:45:22

That was just for Rebecca 'cause she didn't know who roll and 

1  

00:45:26

Rat so So you, which wish you suit out against him. There was such a similar 

2  

00:45:38

Well with our pride minister. Never. 

1  

00:45:42

Yeah, I know. Oh my God. She says 

2  

00:45:49

That's a good Did it? Hey. 

1  

00:45:50

Yeah. So, so moving on. One last topic that, that caught my attention. The Bank of England has just put up interest rate yet again for the 11th straight month to 5.25%. That is gonna hit an awful lot of people that have mortgages. Yeah. Now, I personally feel what the government should do is enforce a cap. And if you apply for a, a mortgage, doesn't matter who you apply a mortgage for a mortgage with, you have a set interest rate on your, your mortgage set up, say 1.5% interest on your mortgage. 

1  

00:46:44

So if you buy borrow a hundred thousand pounds, you'll pay 1.5% on that mortgage for the life of that mortgage. And if you go again another mortgage somewhere else, you still pay that 1.5%. It's not index link. It's not, it's, it is just like having a normal sort of loan where you borrow a set amount of money at a certain interest rate. And I think that would stop all this mucking about with the, the rise in interest rates and, and, and people losing their houses and all the rest of it. It, it'll give people the opportunity to to, to be able to budget properly for, for their mortgage. 

1  

00:47:30

It will give people the opportunity to to live within their means. And because, 'cause the people now are taking mortgages out for 36 years, not 25 years anymore, 36 years and got that, that's sort of a flexible rate going on. And so when, when, I mean I, back in the, the late mid late eighties, I paid 15% on my mortgage. We almost lost a house. We were paying almost 2000 pounds a month on our mortgage. We were working every hour of God sends almost killed us. 

1  

00:48:11

Yeah. Say, I mean it was, it was, we were just, I mean, killing ourselves just to pay the bloody interest on his sudden mortgage. Yeah. And if, if it had been set that that 1.5% people will be able to afford to buy houses. But they won't do that because they're making too much money out. It ain't 

2  

00:48:39

They. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know. Yeah. Yeah. Well this is it, isn't it? It's all down to the finances, isn't it? So random says she's paid a off pay theirs off So. it would've been do double otherwise. I've had nothing but emails about this today. It's ridiculous. That's what Rebecca has been saying. Yeah. People just cannot afford 'em. And Yeah. Really when you look at what Spain's done, Spain are having in the same trouble as what we are because the government acted entirely different to the UK government. The UK government haven't really helped the develop those on benefits mainly and not, you know, well they 

1  

00:49:27

Encourage, they encourage people not to work. 

2  

00:49:31

Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

1  

00:49:32

People won't go out to work because they'll lose their benefits. 

2  

00:49:35

Yeah. How can that 

1  

00:49:36

Be? Right. How can that be? Right? 

2  

00:49:40

Right. 

1  

00:49:42

It's the same 

2  

00:49:43

Tim It's the same. Yeah. It's the same as I've often thought is if you are working, you should be paid a wage where you don't need benefits. 

1  

00:49:53

But Absolutely. 

2  

00:49:54

I know of families that are working and they get work. Well what used to be working tax credits and everything like that. Yeah. And that's because these firms do not pay their workers a living wage. Yeah. And, and and if there was a living wage, a proper living wage. 

1  

00:50:13

Well, well that's, that's why, that's why they want us to go back into the Year U so we can have Yeah. Open borders to bring in cheap labor. 

2  

00:50:23

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. 

1  

00:50:24

Why, why, why can they not invest in our own people? Why can they not incentify our own people to go out and work? 

2  

00:50:34

Yeah. Yeah. 

1  

00:50:36

But this is it, it just doesn't make sense. And they've done it for a long, long time. 

2  

00:50:40

Yeah. I mean, I remember when I was a child, the only, my father went to work and he was a a bus driver. My mother didn't go to work. She fetched us two children, me and my brother. Yeah. Nowadays a family, they have a child. The, the mother gets a year off, but then she's gotta go back to work because to pay the mortgage to keep up with the bills. So when you look at things like that, I think we were better off when we, when I was younger in the sixties and seventies than we are now. People have got more money in the pockets. 

2  

00:51:22

Yeah. Financially they're not better off. And then, you know, so these firms should pay a wage where 

1  

00:51:33

Yeah. 

2  

00:51:34

You don't have to pay many benefits. 

1  

00:51:36

Yeah. They should pay and live in wage. Yeah. And, and and and what I say about a mortgage should be Right. I mean the Germans, the Germans give 99 year mortgages, but 1%. 

2  

00:51:52

Yeah. Yeah. 

1  

00:51:53

So, so the, the, the, the, the cost of the house is spread over a long time. It's it's the same interest rate right. Through and and it's carried on through families. You can't do that in this country. 

2  

00:52:10

No, no, no, no. 

1  

00:52:12

But there you go. Most rent, rent through. Yeah. I dunno whether they do or not. I mean there's a lot of Yeah. Some, some buying houses, isn't they? 

2  

00:52:24

Yeah. Yeah. Well I I think a lot of foreigners do rent more than purchase. 'cause I mean Yeah. It's like in Greece and other countries like that, the build the houses themselves and the family moves up. 

1  

00:52:38

Yeah. 

2  

00:52:39

You know, so the grandparents come in and dah, dah, dah, dah. And we don't, I mean, most UK citizens don't have the family living with 'em. But I do know of a couple that do that have got like three stories in the house and you've got the grandparents on the ground floor. You've got the daughter and son-in-law on the middle floor, and then they've got the, you know, their children. Yeah. Or their child on, on 

1  

00:53:10

The top floor. 

2  

00:53:12

On the top floor. 

1  

00:53:13

I'll tell you what, it's a big I found quite, yeah. I found what I found quite interesting when I was serving in the Balkans and when I've been to Egypt, you see an awful lot of unfinished houses. You, you, you see sort of what's name sticking out the top, what do you call it? Yeah. Reinforcing concrete houses. Yeah. And the reason that that is, is because you don't start paying tax on a house until it's finished 

2  

00:53:48

Ish. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know that 

1  

00:53:50

They never, never finish a house. It's still being built so they're not paying any duties on it. 

2  

00:53:59

Yeah, I know. This is it. 

1  

00:54:04

And that's right across the Balkans. And so Egypt's the same. You see lots of hazards that aren't finished there. Yeah. 

2  

00:54:12

Well, well I, I was talking to my friend the other day and he used to go to AADE for six months a year in the winter. Yeah. And he rented this house off. She, she has got her own travel business and she used to be at Con, the British consulate over there. Now she rents the house and she's rented it for what, 30 odd years now. The owner of it has taken her to court 'cause he wants her out. 'cause he wants to, he said you can buy it off me for the equivalent of 250,000 in d a a million D has about 250,000. 

2  

00:54:57

Well it, it's in a terrace. It's only a terrorist out and the value of the property should be around 60,000 at the most. Mm. And he wants a million Dnar never gonna get it. So. yeah. He wants her out so he can sell it. But he thought Oh, I can make money out of it. So. yeah. She rents the house next door as well. But it's a different landlord so she's moving into that 

1  

00:55:30

And sell it. 

2  

00:55:31

Yeah. So. yeah. Well that's it yet, but when, when you look at things, how things are now, you know, I I mean w I've owned property but now, I mean a rented flat now, you know, because, and we we lived in the park home all our lives. 

1  

00:55:51

Yeah. 

2  

00:55:52

We sold and, and we got a, a council flat, well l h p flat now. So do you think we've been on long enough? 

1  

00:56:01

I believe we have. I think we've covered an awful lot again this evening. I think we've, we've we've covered quite a few salient topics. Yeah. 

2  

00:56:11

I think we've given 

1  

00:56:12

Food for fault. 

2  

00:56:14

Yeah. So are we going live schedule another live at, at nine o'clock through stream yards through your stream yards again tomorrow night? 

1  

00:56:24

We can do that. I think let me just have a double, double, double check. Saturday evening. I've got nothing on tomorrow So. yeah, of course. And, 

2  

00:56:35

And don't forget 

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00:56:36

Everybody, we'll be live again tomorrow. 

2  

00:56:38

Yeah. And don't forget on Sunday night the Gail and Keith show will be back. I am getting in touch with Gail to find out what the subject will be on Sunday night. 'cause she comes up with some s good topics and so I'm looking forward to having a word with her. 'cause I haven't spoken to her for nearly three weeks. Oh. Because she's been rather busy. I haven't seen her around. So it's nice to see her in. Yeah. Nice that you all stopped in with us. Thanks a lot. Really appreciate your support for my channel and Tim's channel. I mean, Tim now is getting more views than I'm, 

1  

00:57:22

Well I should be doing, I should be doing a live during the day on Sunday. On Sunday. Yeah. And I'm gonna try a little experiment. I'm gonna go live from the, the toy shed at Hill Manor and give a bit of an update on the Bantam project. 

2  

00:57:39

Yeah. And I'll, 

1  

00:57:41

I'll I should do that. I should do that live. 

2  

00:57:45

Yeah. Yeah. On Sunday from the toy 

1  

00:57:46

Shed. 

2  

00:57:47

Yeah. Yeah. 

1  

00:57:48

Because I'm out Sunday evening on h m s victory in the senior H mess. Yeah. 

2  

00:57:54

Oh good then. So I'm gonna say goodnight and leave Tim to say it is goodnight. So thank you for joining us all on this four August the fourth. The fourth day of live every day in August of 2023. So I appreciate everybody who comes on keeps us going. We've had some interesting topics. So I hope you like this style. If you don't like this style, please put a comment in afterwards on 

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00:58:27

Let us know 

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00:58:28

And let us know and let us know how we can improve the live streams, what topics you'd like to like to discuss with us. And if you'd like to come on onto our live streams, we welcome anybody to come in and give their opinions. So we thank you. Yeah. Or I thank you and Tim. thank you. So good night everybody. 

1  

00:58:50

We can do that on. Well thanks Keith. Yeah. So if you wanna, if you wanna come on and, and join us on a, what am I doing now? Give it some of that, give it some of that. Yeah. If you wanna come and join us, we'll do another live stream probably on Monday evening where we, we'd have some invited guests on and we'll talk about different stuff that you will have a chat about. So until, until tomorrow we'll be doing another live this tomorrow evening. Same time, same place. 

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00:59:31

Look out for us on Sunday. Not quite sure what time we'll go yet. Keith's going live with Gail on Sunday evening and then we'll be back on Monday evening Keith and myself with another live show. So until then, TTFN Tar tar for now, 

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