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Ordinary people's extraordinary stories & Everyday Conversations Regarding Mental Health
Dental Hygienist Nutritional Therapy Practitioner Rocky Norris
The Tim Heale Podcast S3 E173 Rocky Norris
My name is Raquel. But most people call me Rocky. I became a certified Nutritional Therapy Practitioner and a Licensed RESTART® instructor. My inspiration comes from helping people understand which real foods will help give them the nutrients their individual body needs to feel balanced. I am also a Registered Dental Hygienist for over 12 years. I understand how having a healthy mouth helps you have a healthy gut and body too.
I'm a dental hygienist that will tell all the secrets that your dentist would like to keep hush hush. I have a lot of knowledge about how the teeth are connected to the gut and overall health. I have so many stories I would like to share from being in the military to getting my degree with having ADD and being dyslexia. Which correlates with overall health!
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The Tim Heale Podcasts, Ordinary People's Extraordinary Stories.
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Welcome to the Tim Heale podcasts and Ordinary People's extraordinary stories. Got a great guest for you today. So without too much further ado, let's bring her in. Welcome, Rocky having me. How you doing?
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Good, how are you?
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Oh, I'm okay. thank you very much. Looking forward to our chat, obviously.
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Same here.
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So Rocky, can you tell me where you were born? Not necessarily when you were born, 'cause you were a lady, if you can describe to me what it was like, where you grew up, the schools you went to, and the education that you received. So it's all yours.
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Thanks. So I was born in Phoenix, Arizona, in the States, and my mom had me when she was 15 and my dad was 16 and then they got married and then they decided that they wanted to live in San Diego after they graduated high school. And so I was pretty much raised since I was three to about 13 in San Diego. And then my parents decided to have three other girls. So I had a household of four girls and my dad was the only male male.
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And then my dad lost his job and he decided that it was best that we move to New England. So we moved to Worcester, Massachusetts when I was a teenager. And from there we were in public education pretty much until I was in sixth grade. And then my parents decided that it was best that we were homeschooled. And then I was homeschooled living in Massachusetts from seventh grade to 11th grade. And that's when my mom decided, I don't think I can teach sciences as well as public school can.
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So she decided to put me back in school in 11th grade. And I went to a very small high school that had like 70 people in my graduating class. And I graduated from there after being homeschooled for five years. so that was an adjustment for me socially because all these kids had been together pretty much their whole life. And then I was thrown back into public school. But it was good for me because it helped me overcome some fears of being the odd man out.
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And I definitely put myself out there in high school to make sure that I didn't feel odd. So I played a lot of sports and did a lot of clubs and felt like I actually fit in once I graduated, even though it was two years from there, I decided I didn't wanna go to college.
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Wow. So. yeah. So we've, we, we've raced on a little bit, so sorry. So let's, let's, let's, let's drag you back a little bit. Let's have a look at you. You started out in, in San Diego, I guess that's where, where you started to go to school. So were you, at that time, were you going to public school?
2 (4m 59s):
Yes. So I attended public school from kindergarten all the way to sixth grade.
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Okay. So what was the school like?
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Oh, school was excellent in San Diego. It was year round, so I don't know how it is over there, but you go to school for three months and then you have a month off. And the weather in San Diego is awesome. It's 75 degrees every day. So, you know, we were outside a lot, you know, we had recess outside and we ate outside and, but you know, moving over to Massachusetts, it was a little different So.
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Yeah. One side of the country to the other.
2 (5m 45s):
Exactly, exactly.
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So, so in San Diego then, what was, what was your house like? What was the street you lived on?
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I actually grew up kind of four. So we lived in a trailer and it was a nice trailer though. It could fit, you know, a family of six. And I didn't know any different 'cause I was just a kid. So we lived in a, a, a trailer park, so there was lots of other trailers trailer, but that's how I grew up.
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Ah, yeah. So these trailer parks then, I mean they, I guess we, we call 'em like mobile homes. Yes.
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So So
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Yeah, it
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Was
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So, so did they have wheels on it or, or was it just a, a fixed like porter cabin type affair?
2 (6m 36s):
Oh, it was stationed, yeah, it was not, yeah, no,
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No, you couldn't, you couldn't itch you up to the car and, and, and move trailer parks in?
2 (6m 44s):
No, no. I would've loved that though as a kid that would've been fun, but no.
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So the school then, how big was it? How many kids were in the, in in your, your first school?
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Oh, it was big. Yeah, there was a lot of kids. I couldn't tell you the numbers, but I think there was like five to six grade-wise classrooms, so probably 30 kids in each class. So, it was pretty big.
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So quite a lot. And, and, and a lot of them I guess come from the, the trailer park as well.
2 (7m 15s):
Oh yeah. Yeah. But I mean, it was, I was in more of a rural area in San Diego, so we had different, you know, geographic or, what's the word I'm looking for, you know, it wasn't just a trailer park. There
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Were, yeah, so So, you, you, you, you had a, an another area close by with houses and all the rest of it. Yeah, yeah. you know, sort the wire wide streets and paper boy running, driving, riding down the, the street throwing papers left, right?
2 (7m 48s):
Yes. Yep. Yep. That was behind my trailer park. I remember that because I always wanted that because I didn't really have much of a yard So. yeah. Mm.
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So moving across to Massachusetts then, I mean that's, that's like one side of the country right across to the other.
2 (8m 8s):
Yes,
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Yes, it was. Was it because your dad found work across the other side of the country or what was, what was I think he,
2 (8m 16s):
Oh, I'm sorry.
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So what, what was the, the, the, the reason for the move?
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So he got, he lost his job and he just, I think wanted a fresh start. So my mom and him both talked about it. And he was actually from Massachusetts. He was born and raised here and he moved there when he was a teenager to Phoenix, Arizona. And he always wanted to come back. And I think he just wanted, he just wanted a change. So there was no job. We moved in with my aunt and uncle actually when we first got here. And he just wanted a new change. So he did find a job. And, you know, we moved out of my aunt and uncle's house,
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Got got fed up with the foot weather in San Diego wanting to more changeable weather. Was it?
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Yeah, no, I miss, I missed it. I was not a very happy kid moving from San Diego to, I did not. I don't like snow. I still don't like snow to this day. But
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So, you, you, you're not a skier then.
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I'm a snowboarder, I'm not gonna lie. I started snowboarding.
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Yeah. Anybody can jump on a plank.
2 (9m 32s):
Yeah.
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But it takes a real person to telemark ski.
2 (9m 38s):
Yeah. Yeah.
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I'm, I'm a telemark skier.
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Yeah. so that, right.
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So in Massachusetts then, is that when you started your homeschooling or, or did you get a school first and then, and then decide to come back?
2 (9m 56s):
My parents did try the school. We lived in Worcester, Massachusetts, which it's a huge city. They didn't like this city schools. We did that for a year. I was in sixth grade and in seventh grade they decided to pull my sisters and myself outta school and my mom homeschooled all four of us.
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Oh, right. So your mom's pretty clever then to be a teacher.
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She is. She's very,
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She's
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A paint. I don't even know how she did it.
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So I guess you, you, each of you, you and your sisters had a different curriculum that you were working to, or, or you all learning the same stuff or, or how did that work?
2 (10m 40s):
Yes, so they definitely, you can join like a program and that's what we did. So she would get a book, you know, we'd have different subjects of course, like math, reading, language arts or whatever. And we would have to work out of those booklets. She would check the work, you know, and each of us are all in different grades. We're three years apart. So definitely a different age gap there. So. yeah, it was interesting.
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So was she fairly strict
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Yo? Yeah. Yep.
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So she definitely
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Was.
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Yeah.
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Did were, were you allowed to have playtime? Did she go out into the yard playtime? Yes.
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Yes. She definitely made sure of that. And then we, we got involved with other homeschoolers, so then we would do groups and like, let's say there was two other kids that were in the same grade. I was, we would have, you know, science and we would do the science project together or whatever. So my mom made sure of that and so that we didn't get socially, you know. Yeah. What
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Disadvantaged.
2 (11m 52s):
Yes. Yeah. Socially arts And that, yeah.
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So. yeah. Last, last thing you want is, is getting left behind and finding it difficult to socialize. So you had the opportunity to socialize with other kids that were doing the same. What about kids that were gonna normal schools? Did you, did you associate with them at all?
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Yes. So the kids on my street, And, I was so envious because I so wanted to go back to school, you know, 'cause it is socially more advanced than homeschooling. I mean, I'm just with my siblings all the time. Yeah. And so, yes, I did play with a couple girls on my street and they would tell me about, you know, middle school and how fun it was and interacting with even the opposite boys
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Sex Yeah.
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And all of that. So, and I definitely was very envious of that. Hmm.
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Brilliant. So moving on through school then, when did you actually go back to school?
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In the 11th grade. So, okay. So that's almost, I was a, I was a junior.
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So junior high school.
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Yep.
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And how was that then?
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I'm not gonna lie.
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Did you know, did you fit in or did you find out a struggle?
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It was a struggle at first. And I mean, like the first day I am sitting in the cafeteria and eating my lunch and peanuts were getting thrown at me. And, I was like, okay, this is, this is how it's gonna be. you know? 'cause I was the weird kid, the homeschooler who decided to attend the last two years of high school. Hmm. So. yeah, it was definitely, but I just kind of plugged my way through. Got into a lot of clubs, did sports and made friends that way.
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So what, what sports were you into?
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I did field hockey and track.
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Alright. Hockey's quite a violent game.
2 (13m 58s):
Yeah. I mean, it
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Is girls, girls hockey is a violent game. I can remember, I can remember being at school. And, and, and we had the opportunity to, to play the goals at hockey. We only did it the once.
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Yeah. Oh yeah. And protect your shin. Make sure you have those
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Shin guards. Yeah. They were brutal. Yeah. So. yeah. Let's, let's not dwell on hockey.
2 (14m 28s):
Yeah. It definitely can be violent.
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So did you have a, a, I mean, a good team, did you play other schools and stuff like that? Yes.
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Yep.
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So. Yeah. And what about track and field? What was, what was your favorite sport? What was your favorite part of track and field?
2 (14m 48s):
It was the dash, I think it was what the four? I haven't done it in like 20 years. Yeah. Yeah. I have not ran track for a while, but it was one of the sprints and I can't remember. 20, I can't remember
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So. it was Any, any subject that you hate doing at school?
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Oh, math.
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Is there anything you, you just didn't want to turn up for
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Math?
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So So, you No, no. Good. Or maths then. And what, what subjects did you, you'd want to get up for? You didn't, you couldn't wait to get to school for? What was your best subject you enjoyed the most?
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Definitely science and I liked history a lot too.
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Alright. Yeah. Which period in history is your favorite?
2 (15m 40s):
Ooh, good question. I definitely love World War ii. It's always been a favorite of mine. So what, 1940s? Well, 1930 thirties. That's when it started. Yeah. But of course, you know, the American Revolution is always good too, so,
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Yep. Independence day. See, I mean, if you hadn't have done that, you could have had a king like us.
2 (16m 9s):
Yeah, exactly.
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Instead look what you've got. Yeah,
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Yeah.
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So So you coming toward your, towards your end of your, your your high school then did you have a high school prom? Did you Yes. Did you have a nice date?
2 (16m 32s):
Yes I did. Yep. Yep. I went to prom twice because you can go in junior year and senior year. Alright. So I got through the whole prom experience.
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And did you have a, a sort of ette Yes. Yes. And big flower both times?
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Yes. Yes he did.
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And, and, and did you have a tuxedo your, your date?
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Yes.
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Did it all proper then
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E Exactly. Very proper days.
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So what did you do after you graduated?
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So I decided, because I didn't have the extra funds, you know, usually I don't know how it is over there, but in America parents usually help out with college. I didn't have that. Like I said, my parents financially didn't have the means. So I decided to join the military and right outta high school, I mean, I graduated in May and then in June I was going off to basic training. So.
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Yeah. Where, where did you do your basic?
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Down in San Antonio, Texas, very fast.
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Oh, wow. So it's quite a, quite a, a a, a jump from Massachusetts down to Texas
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In the middle of summer
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Brilliant. It was
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So
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Hot. San Antonio, Texas. Wow. So what, what, what was your training? Like what, what, what service did you join?
2 (18m 5s):
Air Force.
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Okay. Yep. So how, how was the training for Air Force? Dead easy, I suppose.
2 (18m 15s):
It was definitely, I definitely woke up, became an adult, grew up a lot because I was very sheltered too, which I realized when I was there. And unlike other girls, I was very excited to be there because this was the first time I was on my own. A lot of the girls that I was interacting with wanted to go home. I didn't, I was like, we're getting paid to do this. Like this is on. So I'm not gonna lie, it was still a struggle. There was days where I was just like, oh my gosh, am I gonna make it So?
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it was definitely intense. Probably one of the best times I was in shape. It was like almost 70 days of brutal, you know, mind games.
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Because, because I, I think certainly from, from the British military, and I know a little bit about that is that I can, that the first, the first sort of six week is they, they knock you down. They, they, they knock the stuffing out. You and everybody's in the same boat. Everybody's getting picked on and then they, and then you start to gel as a team and then they start building you up again. And I guess the, the, the US military's the same, that they use that same ethos. So by, by the time that you you're passing out off the square, you are working as a cohesive team. So I guess that's the same for you guys.
2 (19m 52s):
Yes, exactly. Yep. Yep.
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And I mean, over here we, when we finish training, we have a big passing out parade, family's come along and all the rest of it. Do you have the same there or is it just not practical? 'cause people are so far away?
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No, we do the same thing. And I don't know how you felt about graduation, but I felt like that graduation was way more important than my high school graduation. you know, you go to school for 12 years and you think that's pretty important. No, my military, the, the 70 days that I went through basic training, I, I felt like I could conquer the world. So. yeah. I was just like, bring it on, like,
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Yeah. Terrific. So So, you passed out and what, what did you do after, did, did you go and do specialist training for anything?
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Yeah, so I became, it's called, called Security Forces. And what our job is, is a cop on an Air Force base and make sure, you know, ah,
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Snow drop, eh,
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Yeah. Yeah. And we guard the PA and we guard the planes. so that, that was my job
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Guard the barracks. Yep. Const constantly staggering on.
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Yes, yes.
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So, so how long was that sort of phase two training for?
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Oh boy, that was almost six months.
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Wow. Yeah. So you had 70 days a break and then six months of, of learning how to be a cop. Yep. And then I guess the, the rest of it's all on a good older job training. Yeah. So where was your first draft? Where was your first posting once you'd qualified as a copper?
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So I, I actually, I got stationed in Massachusetts. Yeah. I can't get away So. yeah. And it was about an hour and a half from my house. So that's where I was. And then, then the Iraqi war started. So
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Which one? The the the last one?
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Yeah, the one that just got over. Yep.
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Yeah. So I was involved with that. I was in Afghanistan when that was kicking off. Wow. So I, I missed the actual, the war fighting phase as it was. And I went there on the three in 2004.
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Okay.
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And I was down in Basra. So, so did you get to to, to Iraq?
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I did, yeah. I was in oh six. So we got activated of course in oh three, but I didn't get, yeah, I didn't serve until 2006. Hmm.
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So whereabouts were you based in, in Iraq?
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Baghdad.
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Oh, Baghdad. I didn't like Baghdad.
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Nope.
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For some, for some bizarre reason, somebody didn't like me in Baghdad and they tried to kill me.
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Yep. Twice. Yeah. That a lie. Twice.
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Yeah, twice they tried to kill me.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yep. I,
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And if that wasn't bad enough, when I, when I got on the aircraft to, to, to leave Baghdad, there was a sandstorm blowing
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Oh, they're
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The gorgeous And the aircraft just managed to get off and then they closed the airport. So if I hadn't, I'd have been stuck there for another week. Wow. Didn't, didn't enjoy Camp Victory and I didn't enjoy the, the Green Zone. We were up there for a meeting basically. But
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That's where yeah, that's where I was state. Well, camp Saher, which is a bop. So, and what, when, what year was that? Was that 2004 for you?
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Two, 2004? Yeah. We, we flew into Camp Victory. The guys we were working with were the, the PSYOPs operators. When they took us down into Baghdad on the way into Baghdad, as we were going out the gate at Camp Victory, there was a card Humvees that pushed away out in front of us. 'cause we were in pickup trucks. Yep. And halfway entered the Green Zone. They got hit by an I E D. Yep. And there was a couple of guys killed and stuff like that. And we got into the green zone or got to the green zone. We were held up outside waiting to, to get through security and all that 'cause of what had just happened.
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Scary. Really scary. And then later on that day when we got back to Camp Victory, we were staying in what used to, I think it was an old canteen, but it was a single building with a, a, a roof terrace on the top with one of these pot fires. And we were sat down there with a few near beers and a burst of about 20, 25 5 Oh. Went across our heads.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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It was like the green zone.
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Yeah. A decisively, unfriendly place. I thought.
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Oh yeah. No, it was not a friendly place at all.
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But I haven't been back to Iraq and I, I'd got no desires to go back there at all. Afghanistan. I loved, I did three tours of Afghan and I loved it.
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Wow.
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So I did oh six and oh nine in Wow. In Afghanistan as well as being in Kabul in 2002.
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Yeah. So.
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Yeah.
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I apologize if you hear that. My dog is not, she's
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Coughing. I'll shut mine now because she's, because he'll be, he'll be up on my lap before I, I didn't.
2 (25m 46s):
Wow. That's, that's amazing. No, I didn't go to Afghanistan, but, which I would've loved to.
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So how long were you in Iraq for?
2 (25m 57s):
I was in Iraq for eight months, so. Alright,
0 (26m 1s):
So that's, that's a slightly short talk 'cause you guys normally do a year, don't you?
2 (26m 6s):
It so
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The Air Force is different.
2 (26m 8s):
Yeah. The Air Force is different. Army usually does a year to 14 months and it depends on the Air Force, but it's usually three to six months. But we were extended because the team that we were was supposed to take over for some reason didn't come. So we, we were there a little bit longer, so we were not happy about that. But, but we all at home, so my squad made it home. so that, that's all that matters. Yeah.
0 (26m 37s):
That's the main thing. Yeah. And I mean, did you pick up any injuries or anything there?
2 (26m 43s):
Not my, my web, but there was definitely other Yeah. People in the Air Force that Yeah. Didn't make it or had injuries.
0 (26m 54s):
So what happened when you returned from Iraq? Where did they post you then?
2 (26m 58s):
I was still stationed in MA Massachusetts. And then I decided that I wanted to go back to school because the whole reason I joined is because I, I wanted that training, but I wanted Yeah. School to be paid for. So I went back to school and then I got out actually. So,
0 (27m 22s):
So what what, what did you learn in school then? What what
2 (27m 27s):
I became a Dental Hygienist.
0 (27m 29s):
Oh, Dental. Hygienist, eh? Yes. Oh, you like looking in people's mouths and scraping away all day.
2 (27m 37s):
Exactly. Totally different than the military.
0 (27m 40s):
Totally different. Yeah. Yeah.
2 (27m 43s):
Yep.
0 (27m 44s):
So 'cause you do things different over there. You are, you have private practices. Yes. And people have to have insurance and all the rest of it to, to Yes. To get it. Whereas we have a national insurance, mind you trying to get a, a national insurance, a a a national health dentist is, is a nightmare over here at the moment.
2 (28m 5s):
Really?
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But there you go. Yeah. So is that what you're doing now?
2 (28m 12s):
So yes, I do that and I then I went back to school again and became a nutritionist. Oh. And so I do both of those things
0 (28m 22s):
Because the two go in hand in hand, don't they? Yes. Having decent nutrition. Yeah. Keeps your teeth healthy.
2 (28m 30s):
Yes.
0 (28m 31s):
So, but,
2 (28m 33s):
But over Western Madison doesn't put those two hand in hand. They separate those two. Yeah. So, you know, my goal in life is to make sure that people understand those two, like you're saying, go hand in hand. And a lot of patients and clients are starting to correlate that. So,
0 (28m 56s):
So from that point of view, I mean, I guess the, the military paid for your education then
2 (29m 4s):
They did for some of it, but I keep going back to school,
0 (29m 10s):
So, so do you have to pay every time you go back to school then? Yes. Yeah. Is it, is it full-time back at school or, or you're working and doing sort of evening classes, that sort of thing?
2 (29m 20s):
I'm not in school anymore. I graduated in 2021, so I haven't been in school in a, in a little bit, which is unusual for me, but now I'm just working full-time.
0 (29m 35s):
Okay. As a Hygienist nutritionist?
2 (29m 38s):
Both. Yep.
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Is it in the same practice?
2 (29m 42s):
No, no. Like I said, those two things are separate. So I own my own business as a nutritionist and then I go into private practice a couple times a week.
0 (29m 52s):
Wow. So you only work a couple of days a week as a Hygienist. Yes. You'd, you'd have thought that would be like a full on, full-time job, wouldn't you?
2 (30m 2s):
Oh yeah. It, it definitely is. Yeah.
0 (30m 6s):
And you, do you manage to manage to just do it part-time?
2 (30m 11s):
Yes. Because then my Nutritional business covers the other half So. yeah.
0 (30m 16s):
So how does your business work then?
2 (30m 20s):
So how, like, how do I get clients or how do they go through my program?
0 (30m 26s):
Yep. All of that. How does that work?
2 (30m 30s):
So getting clients right now has been word of mouth. So, you know, I, I definitely plug myself into certain groups that I know that will need my services and that's how I've gotten my clients in the past. I'm starting to do more with social media, like, you know, getting on Instagram or Facebook, And, that kind of stuff. I'm still very new at it. It's not my favorite thing. I would rather have a personal conversation with somebody than just post something. Yeah. And then once I do have a client, they go through my 12 week program and it's literally foundational work on Yeah.
2 (31m 18s):
Why nutrition is so important. Yeah. For your health, for your body, but also for your teeth.
0 (31m 25s):
Absolutely. Yeah. So how did lockdown trigger, I mean, what, what I guess be before lockdown you were going into surgery and cleaning teeth every day and were in the nutrition business, you were seeing people one-to-one or was it all online to start with?
2 (31m 48s):
Well, that's when I went back to school when lockdown, I was just like, I don't know if I want to clean people's teeth, you know, with whatever this is going around, having no idea what it was. And I knew that I have three children of my own and I knew that I didn't wanna do this full-time because the hours are not sufficient for kids in school. I want to get my kids off and on the bus and, you know, working a nine to five, you don't do that. So I started to study when we got locked down and I was out of a job for almost five months because you can't, in the states, they just, they shut.
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Yeah, they
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Shut off. They did here. I mean, unless, unless you had covid you couldn't even get into an hospital.
2 (32m 46s):
Exactly.
0 (32m 47s):
And, and the dentist shut down. Everything shut down. So it was crazy. It was just a crazy time.
2 (32m 56s):
Exactly. So that's when I, I decided that I need to go back to school, got my certificate in nutrition and then from there things started lighting up and, and I did go back as a Hygienist, but part-time and then I, I started my nutrition business. Hmm.
0 (33m 16s):
So how'd, how'd you see your clients? Do you see 'em face to face or do you do it over the the internet.
2 (33m 22s):
All over the internet.
0 (33m 23s):
All online. All online. I mean that's, that's probably one of the, the only positives that you can take out of the, the lockdown is you can reach a far bigger audience nowadays by remote doing it online. Yes, yes. I mean you, you, you are over in the states. I'm in England and we're having a fantastic conversation.
2 (33m 49s):
Exactly, exactly. It's amazing what we can do in the space, you know.
0 (33m 57s):
So what's what's the future hold then? What are you looking to do for the future?
2 (34m 2s):
I am looking to get out of modern day dentistry and be full-time nutrition, but my long-term goal is to get into colleges and get a curriculum going with Dental Hygienist throughout the country to really focus on nutrition more than just the mechanics of scraping somebody's teeth. Teeth. They put a lot of emphasis on that. But what we need to do is really focus on the body because the body's a miraculous thing and if you take care of it, it'll take care of you.
2 (34m 43s):
Yep.
0 (34m 43s):
So
2 (34m 44s):
That is my long term role.
0 (34m 47s):
Okay. So are you looking at taking your course into, into a college to teach there? Yeah. And also do it online.
2 (34m 56s):
Yes.
0 (34m 58s):
And have you, have you got like a webinar set of programs to put out? So yes. you, you've got a course that you can, you can do as a webinar So, you can get more people involved.
2 (35m 13s):
Exactly, yes. In like a group setting. Yes. Yep. Yeah.
0 (35m 18s):
Have you seen Stream Yard and they're on air webinar?
2 (35m 23s):
No.
0 (35m 24s):
Oh, it might be worth having a look at that. Yes,
2 (35m 28s):
I'll
0 (35m 28s):
Definitely, might be, might be worth having a look at string yard.
2 (35m 32s):
Okay.
0 (35m 33s):
I'll send you the link.
2 (35m 35s):
I would appreciate that. Yes. No, I've never definitely.
0 (35m 41s):
So do you have a book out or anything like that? How can people get hold of you? How can people sign up to do your course?
2 (35m 50s):
So they can find me on the web. I have a website and it's just tooth gut.com and then they can sign up for a free discovery call with me. So it's one-on-one. And we go over your health journey. I've gone over everything from, you know, tooth problems to, you know, i b s to gut related issues. So, and we go from there. And it's a, a holistic way. It's not just focusing on, you know, a diet. Yeah. This a lifestyle.
0 (36m 26s):
Yeah. Because you are what you eat. So to tell me
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Yeah.
2 (36m 33s):
And I, I'm gonna piggyback on that. You are what you digest.
0 (36m 37s):
Absolutely.
2 (36m 38s):
Yeah. If you can digest it, then you can eat it. If you can't digest it, you shouldn't be eating it.
0 (36m 43s):
Yeah. There's a few things that don't digest particularly well
2 (36m 47s):
And that's good that you're aware of that most people aren't.
0 (36m 52s):
Well, Rocky, thank you so much for enlightening me.
2 (36m 58s):
Thank you for having me. This has been great.
0 (37m 1s):
No, it's been a lovely chat. So thank you very much.
2 (37m 6s):
Thank you.
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If you wanna hang about, we'll have a quick wash up. Well, what a terrific guest. There you go. If you want to know a little bit more, have a look at the description, follow the links, and maybe you can have a chat with Rocky and see what she can do for you. So until next time, T T F N Tatar for now,
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