20 Minutes To Post: Episode 213 (Coolmore Classic Day)

The Coolmore Classic headlines a massive day of racing at Rosehill this Saturday, and the boys are ready to get stuck in. Plus, will the 2yo picture get any clearer? Listen in as we try to bring you all the winners around Aus. Thanks for listening as always and Good Luck on the Punt. 

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Hello and welcome to another special edition of the 20 Minutes of Post Podcast. My name's Max. Nate and Josh joining me as always, ready to rip into some of this weekend's racing and recap the weekend it was and what a weekend we had, boys. We tipped a stack of winners down south in the new market. Ended up finding that one and the All-Star Mile with Tommy Kitten. But it was up north with the win of Jolly Star, ultra impressive their second up. And she's an alibi, and it's confirmed, boys. It's looking like the ownership team want to go towards a Doncaster. 49 and a half kilos going into a Donny, potentially lining up against an Autumn Globe. Boys, this is going to be a mouth ordering competition if both of those Phillies and Mayors make it to the race. Um, wow, let's start there. She's an alibi, ultra, ultra impressive, started favourite, well deserved, and nothing ever, nothing else in the race ever looked likely. Came from the back of the field, went straight past Autumn Boy and Attica, and it was all over Red Rover. Nathan, what a performance. She is an absolute star, this Philly. How are you doing?

SPEAKER_01 0:59

Yeah, doing well, Maxie. She's a beauty, isn't she? Just what an absolute flogging she gave the boys in the Randwick Guineas. Josh alluded to it last week. Not easy for a Philly to go against the boys in a race like that and get the job done. She didn't just get it done, she gave them a belting. And with not the best run in transit either. You have a look at the replay. She sort of had to suck air for a little bit of that race. She was exposed a long way out with Luke Nolan in the saddle. Not much he could do. He just ended up getting cast. J Max sort of found the 1-1 on Autumn Boy, and you thought, geez, okay, we've got a race, but it really wasn't. She was just absolutely electrifying. We saw her down in Melbourne. We sort of speculated and talked about, probably should have been in the hunt for a thousand guineas. Prep didn't go right, had to go to the paddock. And she's come back and Josh, she's just absolutely put her hand up and said, yes, I should have, and probably would have won the thousand guineas had I got there. She is an absolute star. 49.5 kilos in a Doncaster. Who's gonna deny her? I mean, seriously. Autumn glow, does she avoid her? That's the other conversation. I think she might off that peak, because goodness me, the ratings say that they are going very, very similar. How are you doing?

SPEAKER_02 2:03

Yeah, good thanks, boys. Oh, what a weekend. And she dead set carved them up, but she didn't have it all her own way. Like you mentioned, she did not look great at the 600. She looked off the bit, she wasn't travelling that well, but once Luki Nolan straightened her up at the top of the straight, he, in a few strides, put them to the task quite quickly. She is a very, very good filly. Duran was on the wall from that sand down Guinea's last prep at Caulfield where she gave an absolute bolting up by six lengths. Since Peter Moody's gotten gotten this horse from there up in Queensland, she's just gone to leaps and bounds. And yeah, Doncast to look out. Don't know who rides, but at 49.5 kilos, definitely a live chance. And that ran with Guineas has always been a great form for these three-year-olds Garner Doncaster. So Autumn Glow, will they go to a Queen Elizabeth or will they go to uh the Queen of the Turf on the last day of the carnival? That seems like the word it looks like they're gonna take on, uh go against she's an alibi, not take her on just because of the potential seven kilo weight swing, it looks like it's a shame. I'm sure we might get it maybe next year because next prep, it looks like Autumn Glow will be uh heading towards a cosplay campaign, while she and Alibi will be heading towards a golden eagle path. So if we don't get it this autumn, we might not see them match up again for a while, which is a shame. But at least we've got two very, very good fillies to talk about between that, don't we, Maxi?

SPEAKER_00 3:44

Oh, we certainly do. Um, yeah, she was an absolute star on the weekend is gone. And I hope we do get to see them match up in a Doncaster, but uh hey, J Mac might be right. Uh, you know, stretch Autumn Glow out to 2,000 meters, then you avoid the Doncaster entirely. Um, just that little extra week in between runs uh might be costly, but hey, have to wait and see. They might try and keep that unbeaten record intact with Autumn Glow. But it was all about she's an alibi from the weekend, just gone ultra, ultra impressive, um, potentially heading towards that Doncaster and geez, firm to write in the market. You're getting$2.30 now in the Doncaster Autumn Glow out to$3.50 as a result. So if you're taking it in the all-in market for Autumn Glow, ooh, you might be a bit nervous there, boys. Um, other winners on the day, of course, Jolly Star, J Mac Walla, 1300 metres. I mean, what else to say? I mean, she's absolute star sprinter of Chris Wallace camp. Um, I mean, she's been absolutely outstanding of the beaten brigade. Jeez, it was all walla walla walla. Um Beyvacht, great in de feat there. That was a really good run there from the three-year-old. And Lady Shenandoah looked maybe a little bit disappointing, uh, to be honest. I I thought there was maybe a little bit more there in the locker, maybe got shuffled a little bit too far back, but um, yeah, certainly not disgraced running third to Jolly Star because when she's on Song Nathan, she is otherworldly.

SPEAKER_01 5:04

Yeah, she's a beauty. Um look, she's just so honest. And so Max and I, we were trying to poke some holes in her last week. We sort of spoke about her first up form. Generally sort of sits a bit prettier than her second up form. We thought she was electrifying first up and she got the win there, and then um was just brilliant second up and well tipped up by you, Josh. You wanted to stick thick and lucky you did because it paid dividends if you stuck thick. I thought that, like you said, Maxi, I thought that this is going to be a good form race. I thought Bavacked back to his best, ridden on tempo, back to a turn in Sydney, looked very, very good. I was happy with that performance. Uh, gave him a bit of a sprook last week. And um also, Lady Sha, no, I'm not giving up on her. I think she's a very, very talented mayor in her own right. And look, she's no autumn glow or anything of that caliber, but I think she's a potential um, or I think she's already got a group one on the CV, so maybe it's a more group one. Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 5:53

So she she's she's already ticked that box.

SPEAKER_01 5:55

Exactly. So she's got more uh wins in her, whether or not it's group one level, I'm not sure. But but she is a very, very good horse in her own right. And so that's more credit to Jolly Starr. She's just so honest. I think it was what, her sixth group one win, something along those lines. So she's been going very, very well, and she just continues to sort of raise the bar. Is she the best sprinter in Australia? That's probably the conversation now after the new market. Josh, I know we've been talking at pre-pod sort of about TJ Smith's and who lines up where, and if we all get these horses coming together, Jolly Starr, she's got to be right in the mix.

SPEAKER_02 6:25

Well, she is a star, but I will say I'm pretty confident the map won of that race last weekend and the Canterbury. She got the run of the race sitting 1-1 off that speedbind Baywalk where Lay Shenandoah had to go back to free wide at the tail of the field. I thought it was a good run by a lot of horses in that race. It was a bunch finish, so there wasn't a lot between them. That's why I say the map won uh one Jolie Star the race. But Jolie Star, group one went there from 1,200 metres all the way up to a mile. I think uh her first group one was actually a thousand guineas in her three-year-old campaign there down in Melbourne. So she's a very versatile horse. But as we were mentioning pre-port, like you said, the TJ Smith might end up being a race that decides who is out and out the best weight-for age sprinter in Australia. It's looking a cracking race. You've got Baebok Leishonando and Joel Eastar hopefully going there from the Canterbury. You've got Gigakick coming from that run last weekend, which was a great prep run heading towards a TJ. You've got Briasa coming back, you've got Tentauris there coming off a cardiac arrhythmia down there uh in Melbourne. You've got uh Tempted possibly coming off the surround when and then uh we've got one of yours, Maxi, one of yours, Natty, one of ours, Jimmy Starr, coming from a William Reader to a TJ Smith. So if they all uh go to a TJ Smith off uh all the runs they've had this prep, it looks an absolutely stunning race, boys, and it could shape up as the best sprinting group one we've had in a long time, and that's saying something because we just had Kay Ying Rise and come over for an Everest just last prep, but it could be a race that decides the best sprinter in Australia, Maxi.

SPEAKER_00 8:17

Oh, it certainly could. Um, and jeez, there's part of me that's like may maybe it's a little bit of greed, if anything, but I'd love to see Baywacht actually drop back in grade but go towards an arrowfield sprint instead. I reckon that would be a cracking race over the 1200 metres. Same day of the championships uh as well there, just purely for the three-year-olds. Look, tempted's right there at the top of that market, but if they want to run Tempted in the TJ, I reckon then Bayvark looks like the Godolphin runner in that race. Um, currently getting$15, it'll firm right up. But uh that's an all-in market, so take with a little bit of risk. Haven't got any mail as to whether or not what Chris Waller's gonna do, and he's probably one of the hardest uh trainers to judge what he's gonna do with his horses. Um but yeah, I can't wait for that TJ. It is gonna be a mouth-watering affair in um a couple weekends' time. We're gonna get another element to it in the galaxy at handicap level. Um, sometimes you see some of those high weight runners in that galaxy head towards the TJ as well. So yeah, cannot wait towards the championships. It's gonna be an absolutely cracking affair and probably crown themselves as you know the the number one sprinter to try and take on Kai Ying Rising going in towards an Everest later in the year. So, geez, we're already talking Everest. Uh and we're not even through the Autumn Carnival Boys. Um, let's dive away from Ramick real quick. Of course, other winners on the day that we all tipped. Uh Riesling, that was a great tip from you there, Nathan. And uh Paradoxium, uh maybe not such a great tip by us. Uh, very wrong. So very wrong. We'll move on from that and we'll go down south, talk about the all-star mile. Look, race change complexion, treasure the moment, and buckaroo both out before the race, but it was all Tommy Kitten. Um, looked out that race under control, had to dig deep because evaporate was there, and Pride of Jenny up on speed. Look, Flemington, I just want to say across the day, played interesting. Up on speed, you wanted to be near the leaders. I think that really favoured Pride of Jenny, and we'll also talk about that new market as well because I think that factored into it too, how leader bias it was on the day, like coming around the turn and also up the straight. You wanted to be red hot on that fence. And look, Tommy Kitten had to dig uh deep there, three wide, no cover, or three wide um line coming into the home straight. But yeah, class prevailed and the first horse to go back to back in this race, Nathan.

SPEAKER_01 10:36

Yeah, really good win. And like you said, Maxi, interesting feature day, rail out six. Dunno, a little interesting thought there, you know, big race days. You kind of get it. Like, you know, we've got a lot of racing.

SPEAKER_00 10:48

I'll ask it now, actually. Do you think because of one less track, one less metro track, not having a Mooney Valley to potentially pick up like an all-star mile meeting or something, that that's sort of hampering them? Because they've got to run a lot of these midweek races. Yes, they've got the Corfield Heath, but they've got to run occasional midweek, you know, Sunday even meetings as well, Super Sundays at Flemington at Corfield. That's potentially hampering these tracks because you wouldn't think that out six metres for you know the last big group one day of the you know, I guess Melbourne Carnival this autumn.

SPEAKER_01 11:20

Yeah, it's a look, I uh it's interesting. I do think it comes into play. We've seen Randwick and Rose Hill alternate, and it does that too. You know, sometimes you see a day or two where the rail's out and they play on speed, and you just got to bed into that, and that's just sort of what happened on Saturday. And look, I'm not blaming anybody, I'm just saying the reality is when the rail's out like that and there's a clear on-speed bias, punters can see it as the day goes on. You feel for punters that got on early, you know, uh you're like us, you know, we get on early, sometimes it works out, Cabalas, sometimes it doesn't. You know, if you're a big Pride of Jenny fan, you probably would have been chips in during the day anyway, because like you said, Maxi, look, it was just a perfect setup. I think as I don't know about you boys, but as I was watching the the All-Star Miles sort of unravel, the thing that surprised me was just that she never got that distance. You know, she usually picks up six, seven, eight lengths prior to Jenny turning for home. And when she didn't pinch that break, you just thought, okay, she's vulnerable here. She has something, whether it's just she's not able to sort of quicken that tempo in the middle stages. Haven't looked at the sectionals, so I'm not sure. But she looked to be a little bit flat there first up. While Tommy Kitten, he was coming off a brilliant win first up, got the perfect stick. Craig Williams, take a bow. 10 out of 10 ride, found the 1-1, didn't have to do too much work from the gate, but goodness me, he's riding out of his skin at the moment, peeled out, like you said, Maxi, and just got the head down where it matters most. Evaporate sat outside the leader. I thought was an excellent run as well. Doncaster for a horse like that looks perfect, even though it might have to take on some superstars. But uh looks at look at a form race that we've talked about in the past. All-star mile going to a Doncaster or going to a Wait for H Group 1 tends to be pretty good form. So I want to trust this race. I want to trust Tommy Kidney. He's just going so, so good. Back to back all-star miles, Josh. It's you know, regardless of the race shape and how things unfolded, you've got to be impressed by him. He's just come back a very good horse.

SPEAKER_02 13:08

Yeah, very good horse. They ran quick, Tom. Now they were only a half a second outside the track record, I believe.

SPEAKER_01 13:14

It was a quick day. It was a quick day in general.

SPEAKER_02 13:17

A minute 33-7, I believe, they ran for the mile. So they ran quick and still first free ran the turn with first free home and at all-star mile. So it fast tracks do tend to help horses that are more on speed if they handle the going. But I'm with you. I'm surprised that Pryder Jenny couldn't get that big buffer between the 800 and 400. I think that really decided the race against her there late. But uh, in saying that, uh, Craig Williams was hands and heels on Tomkin to about the 200 metre mark. That horse was trucking into the lead. I was surprised actually that he didn't put a bigger margin on a fap rate closer to the line. But the horse was holding a fap rate the whole the whole straight there. The interesting thing was that uh Pridegenny kicked back again on the fence with 50 to go. The horse looked gone and then kicked back again late. So that was fair interesting. I agree with that. Very good race. Um, Tommy Kidden uh possibly goes to a Donny after that, I would say. Don't cast a mole.

SPEAKER_00 14:22

Maybe Australian Cup as well. Do you think he stretches out 2,000? He's tried at that before, and he's won a group one at three over the 2000s, so could be an option for it.

SPEAKER_01 14:32

I'd say as well, Maxi. I do think he's probably goes, I don't know about you, Josh, but I reckon he probably goes a shade better in Melbourne, just on face value, and Melbourne just seems to have more luck at least, because in in Sydney that's always a hard luck story. So I'd probably want to keep him down in Melbourne.

SPEAKER_02 14:45

Yeah, I just I think I heard Anthony and Sam Freeman say they think this horse is best now as a fresh mileer. So I just think they want to keep the the sprint in his legs, and he might become a bit dower if they try an Australian Cup first before a Donnie. The interesting thing is I uh it all reports uh right. Pride of Jenny might be going back to the Queen Elizabeth again this year to take on Autumn Glow. They they're intrigued by that matchup, but she would definitely honour as well, who's landed in Australia. Yeah, yeah. Very interesting race coming up there in the Queen. Obviously, they'd go to Australia Cup first, which the Australian Cup looks a pretty nice race too in a couple of weeks' time. So there's a lot of good forms to come out of their race. A Fap Rate, another bridesmaid, Nathan. Will this horse get the group one on the CV? It's going really well, but um, watch me rock poured up lane, which was disappointing there for the uh for the WA team there. But all in all, I thought it was a very strong race, Max.

SPEAKER_00 15:48

Yeah, uh like you said earlier, um, Nathan, and you sort of echoed on it as well, Josh. Want to follow this form line wherever a lot of these run is home. Even the likes of a Sabage as well. Do I think he's do I think he's group one level? Probably not, but just that rung below, like if he finds the right race, I think he could be very, very deadly. Um, does he go back towards like a two-rack or something like that, like this time in six months' time, potentially? Um, but yeah, the house is the pause is going absolutely outstanding. So yeah, follow that form line, that is for sure. We'll be seeing those runners um having runs up in Sydney and staying down in Melbourne. Um so keep a close eye on those. Um last race we'll touch on the new market, it was Kabalus there. For Bjorn Baker, Froggy knew it, he gave it a perfect ride up on speed, he knew what the racetrack was doing. Gallant Sun, um look if you wanted to play to how the track was playing, like just look at Gallant Sun, you know, it goes around at what, I think$71 uh in the race and then still holds on there for second. Uh, from Angel Capital, who is huge, honestly, in defeat. Uh I think it's one of the runs of the race. Um, but oh, he's not one of mine, I have to pot him. And Sandle as well. Um, but all the talk is about Tentayris um look had a big weight coming into this as a handicap. I think what, 56 kilos for weekend hustler, the last three-year-old to tackle this new market. Um, gets 57 coming into this race. Um look, was the weight too much, Nathan? Do you think he just got settled too far back, track conditions, or was it a little combination of a bit of everything?

SPEAKER_01 17:24

Well, I just think at the end of the day, Maxie, you just see cardiac arimir and you just pen the run. I mean, I thought he was really good, honestly. Uh, you look at the replay, he's finished what, fifth, sixth in the run. He was back in the rack and it was just a bit of a hard watch. It was second last pretty much the whole race. Yeah, he was back in the which it was what he did in the lightning, but he only had to chase down seven rivals, you know. So you're probably looking at that race and you're thinking, why couldn't he do it again? Like you said, big weight against a quality handicapped field. And so look, he had excuses. I don't want to totally pen him. I know Josh and I was again talking pre-pod that you know now we hopefully see him go to a TJ and we'll get the best of him. And we like we've said, we've said it before, for uh second next run off a off Cardiak Army, usually they come out and run a big, big race. So look, uh there are obviously excuses. If you did you know at the shorts, you're gonna be disappointed. I know I was, but that's that's racing. Sometimes it happens. And sometimes we talk about races like this, and you go back to the old faithful. Up on speed, take luck out of the equation, you give yourself the best chance, and that's what Cabalus did, and that's what Froggy knew it did. And so sometimes you get your way. Was there bias? Leave it to the interpretator. Well, maybe slightly, but still jump, lead, get the job done, and that's exactly what Cabalus did. Sometimes you've got to throw your hands up and say, Well done, and well done, Maxi. I know you uh tipped him up, but so you've got to give yourself some pat on the back. I mean, good value there, especially on the whirlpool, finally. Jeez, usually you're taking a dollar or four for Autumn Glow, but you know, at least you're getting a good price on the Whirlpool for the for the sprint races. So look, all honors the winner, like you said, Gallant Sun, good, nice horse, but you know, do you want to be following him into big features? I'm not so sure. But um, look, there were some really good runs in the beaten brigade. You even mentioned Angel Capital, a horse that's not going to be out of place in a TJ either. So um I think a T this again, we keep going back to this TJ Smith. Looks a beauty, Josh.

SPEAKER_02 19:13

Yeah, well, we we handicaps find out, and Cabalus was obviously the best handicapped horse going into that race. Congratulations, Cabalus. Great ride, Froggy knew it. Um, had straight form. It won down the straight on Derby Day, albeit it was he won in a race six lengths slower than Tentauras' Cullmore win based on times and measurements. But but the weight difference did tell a difference there. You could say the cardiac arumia was forgiven, but did it get the cardiac army because of the weight it had to carry in that race? We we just don't know. But total forgive run Tentauras. And the shock for me, boys, and the race was is that we saw Legacy Bound and Medicinal earlier in the day win down the straight, middle of the track. And instead of splitting, which is what I had the race predicted, having two lanes, and Tentauras would get that run through the middle, they all came to the inside rail. That shocked me big time in that race. I don't know why they did it.

SPEAKER_00 20:21

I think no matter where you were, just because of how quick they were seeing the jockeys were all seeing the pattern that hard up against the rail that that was winning that that was winning in races, like the ones that were leading into the races or leading into the home straight around the bend, not necessarily down the straight, but that part of the track seemed to be really the A1 sort of like um part of the track. Honestly, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:45

Sorry boys, I just uh just to your point there, Josh. I think sometimes we play a bit of follow the leader and they jumped and they all saw they everyone started shifting to the left, and then suddenly they probably looked up and thought, okay, we're all here. And it just you know, the jockeys from the outside stalls shifted across and they went, shit, you know, suddenly we're all in in the one racing line, or you know, the the group racing line anyway. And so I think you know, it's total happenstance. Maybe there could have been that one jock that slid over to the right and raced on their own. That would have been interesting, but um yeah, uh looking at your brazen bow. But sometimes that's um that uh that's uh that's how it goes, you know. So I think there was a bit of follow the leader there. Not you know that it was a bad or good tactic, you know, but it is what it is. The races run now, so hindsight's a beautiful thing. But you make a good point. It was interesting to see them all bolt over to the to this to the rail, and like Maxie said, maybe uh some races earlier in the day, uh just with this with the turning course uh came into play there.

SPEAKER_02 21:42

Yeah, uh you're probably right. I think yeah, a lot of the leaders on speed saw Craig roll hard, quick to the inside rail and probably just followed, thinking he knows what's going on, we're gonna follow him, and uh think that's the best part of the track, which is fair enough too, but um. Yeah, just all you can say is too good the winner, the handicap. That's that's what a handicap's meant to do. It's meant to uh tell you the best handicapper is, and on the day it was Cabalus, but Tentaurus, I want to totally forgive, and w I wanna see it bounce back strongly and a wait for HTJ Smith. Like you said, Maxi, Angel Capital, I thought was quite unlucky, didn't get the gaps when it needed to, but still hasn't broken its group one yet. And I thought Seppels was a great return. I wonder where they're going though. Would they go with Don Caster or do you think maybe an all-age stakes at the back end of the carnival might be a grand final type of race for Sepples? Because I think Seppels has come back really well after that first start run.

SPEAKER_00 22:46

Yeah, it's he he's he's a tough one to work out because on his day, I think he's maybe not at I feel like we said this about a few horses already, boys. Not at that top rung, like you know, not at that group one level, but he's just sort of close, he's around that mark. And um, yeah, if he finds the right race, if he finds the right, you know, circumstance way it um folds. I reckon at a handicap level he could definitely find himself in a group one victory. Maybe like an Oakley play, that that seemed to be, you know, the ideal sort of crack, I guess, or maybe even this new market. If the track played a little bit different, um he'd be right there in the finish. Um, but yeah, all credit to Kabalas. Um ends up getting the chocolates there for Bjorn Baker, and Froggy Newick gets another group one to his name. Uh boys, anything else to touch on from this weekend just gone, or we dive into some of this win, some winners this weekend. That sounds good. All right. We'll start down south because we were talking about that Australia Cup and a good lead up race to that Australia Cup down south is the Peter Young Stakes. We're at Caulfield. We're going over the 1800 metres at group two level. Buckaroo has lobbed up your favourite here. Of course, we missed him last week in the All-Star mile. He finds himself favourite in this race. Birdman in the market here, also nombed for a race up in Sydney. Light infantryman as well, also in this race, all for the same ownership. Apulia and Chief Little Rock to finish those in single figures. Nathan, how did you break down this Petty Young stakes?

SPEAKER_01 24:08

Yeah, so what I did is what I looked at the form boys and I decided to say, oh, I see they're giving us$2.80 for Bakaroo, and that'll do me. I cannot believe a horse that I was tipping up in the All-Star Mile at a pretty good price. She comes out here, much weaker race. Don't get wrong, eight horses. There's some quality light infantry man. I thought the first up win was good, but Bakaro's first up run, goodness me, that run behind Pericles, and no one missed it. I thought it was enormous. First up, 1400 metres, has a second up profile. We talked about it. One of Chomps was second up a couple of preps ago and and has looked good in an underwood at this course and distance in the past. Only beaten a half length by Cerdelius. Tick, tick, tick, draws barrier to John McNeil, keep it out of trouble. It'll be winning. One of the best bets of the day for me, Buckaroo. Happy to be chiming in at the$2.80. I think that's more than fair. Get a little bet boost there, make it three bucks. That will do me. Best of the day, Buckaroo. In for second, my only danger for mine, or one of the only dangers, actually comes in the form of this Aiden O'Brien, overseas galloper. Goes by the name of Chief Little Rock. I think it's a very nice horse. Trolled up very, very nicely. Long break, 630 days off. That's the main query. But you go back for his form lines, he's got some very, very good form over in uh Ireland and also the UK. Forn enough of this horse to take it to a group two when beaten by Calandigan. We know that that horse, arguably one of the best horses in the world at the moment, and was a good winner prior to that as well. And a group three level over 2,000 metres. So first up, 1,800 metres, might be a bit sharp, but I think it's a very talented horse. Son of Galileo. So what's this horse getting over further? But I think at$9.50, if I was going to chop out, that would be the horse I'd chop out on. In for third, gone with light infantry man. Uh look, again, the first up run was great, but I do think is tested against Buckaroo. I think it's just a superior horse. And then in for fourth, tracked in Birdman, who I'm just not sure shows up here. Like you said, Max, he could end up in Sydney, uh, but definitely got to be respected off that second up win. Third up call field, I don't think, suits. I think Flemington's a better track, so just relegated down the numbers. And no knocks on a poolia either, boys. I know she's one of yours, and I'm definitely respecting her. I think it's a pretty good race, but I just think Buckaroo's the class, and I think at$2.80, chips in one of the best of the day.

SPEAKER_00 26:17

All right. What about you, Josh? Um Buckaroo, he lobs up the favourite. Are you with him or potentially trying to take him on?

SPEAKER_02 26:23

Yeah, no, I have to be with Buckaroo. I still think we're getting a good price there around the$2.80, and uh it's just got to run to its best track and trip, and it should hopefully be breaking. It stuck its first win for a year and a half since the underwood of 2024. Can you believe it's been that long since it last won? But if it's going to break through and get another win, it should be here second up this weekend. So Buckaroo on top from Birdman. I thought that was a really good win, second up over the mole at Flemington. Um, and got to go back up to wait for age level. But this is a nice little race, whether they come here or Sydney. The horse is going really well. And I would say uh the Australian Cup fourth up would be Birdman's grand final. So uh should run well here, whichever way it goes here or Sydney. In for third, I'll put in Light Infantry Man. We'll be there on speed from a soft gate. Thought it was a nice return. First up, he looked gone at the top of the straight and then came back to win on the line. And then in for fourth, I'll put in your chief little rock, Nathan. I'm just thinking it might need the run. Second up, 2,000 metres. Australian Cup looks to set up. I think it might be ready to peak their second up D-Day in the Aussie Cup. A pool misses my numbers too, Maxi, just because I think it's a better Flemington haws. It's a two goes at Caulfield and missed the numbers twice. So I just want to be against at Caulfield, wait for it to step back up at trip, going back to Flemington. But all things equal, at Way for H level, Buckaroo should be breaking it stuck again this weekend.

SPEAKER_00 28:02

Yeah, I see where your boys are coming from with a pool here look. I'll give my numbers as if Birdman is rocking up in this race because I reckon Birdman's actually going up to Sydney, uh, going around in race number five up there at Rose Hill in the sky high stakes, um, where it starts favourite. But uh, if he's in this race, I think he's right up there. So Buckaroo on top for me for everything you boys have outlined. Um, from Chief Little Rock, I think is good value in this race, um, brings some really nice class over here. Just want to see it perform. Look, do I think it's gonna be winning first up? No, probably needs a run, kind of similar to like a middle earth. Um, that that's sort of the vibe that I'm getting with this Chief Little Rock potentially peaking um second up coming towards an Australian Cup. In for third, I'll chuck in Birdman. Um look, I I don't think he's gonna be lobbying in this race, but um he certainly would be remiss in this. Um I I think he's yeah, heading towards an Australian Cup, and he looks to be uh peaking potentially fourth up, as you mentioned, Josh, and then I'll chuck in a pulia in there for fourth, and the light infantry man was the one that ended up um being there last of my numbers. I can't really make a case for any of those at double figures. Um look, one or two of them could spoil in the uh minors, but it looks to be Buckaroo's race to lose here. Look, he has been costly, but uh yeah, let's butter up, boys, for him in the Peter Young stakes. That's the feature down there. They've of course got Vobus racing down there too, potentially might have a best bet or two down there. But let's head up to Sydney boys because we're gonna touch on this two-year-old pitcher heading towards a golden slipper. Win and you're in the Magic Knight and the Pago Pago. We'll start with the Magic Knight. This is one is for the Phillies, and Pembury has lobbed up your favourite who was held in a pocket last start there behind Spicy Miss. Um, Nathan, are you with the short price favourite? J Max seems to be sticking here for the Tony Golan Philly. Um, or do one of these others take your eye?

SPEAKER_01 29:54

I think it's an interesting race, Maxie. I think I think if you backed him back to last time, you want to stick. I tipped her up. I'm gonna stick. I got her on top. I'm not gonna be chips in like Buckaroo. This is a very, very uh interesting race. I thought she was excellent on debut. I'm gonna trust that debut where she's jumped, took luck out of the equation. Last time was just no luck. You rarely see J-Mack get it wrong, but if he had his time again, I think he would have just decided to take luck out of the equation and ping the lids, go to the top, and just see how we go. I think that's what it'll do here. I think for Marriott 9, go across this field, get to the top, and try and find some legs here. Third up in the campaign. She's nice and fit. Uh, and I think the daughter of Prague uh for the Tony Golan tank can finally chalk up that win.$2.40, I do think it's on the short side. Um, I'm not gonna have a big bet, but I have something small in the race. Uh and my other bet in the race just gave it again, two small bets. My other one's number seven, Afari. Very interesting uh daughter of home affairs. I thought her first up run at Canterbury was pretty good. Uh Forrest King goes around in the boys' race, so you can tie that into that form depending on how this one goes. But I thought the first up run had merit. It was 1100 metres on soft ground, so improving ground, second up, 1200 metres, draws a soft gate with Karen McAvoy in the saddle. I think Afari's the danger here at the 13 and 320th place. I could even say maybe have a little each way bet might be the play for me uh in hindsight if you want to get away from the shorts on Pembury. But I'm gonna have two small win bets, one on Pembury, one on Afari. In for third, I chucked in this first starter, Hellenic Bell. Oh, hell Hellenic Bell? That's what I'm going with. Hellenic Bell, uh, the daughter of Hellbent. I thought the two trials have been really, really good, particularly the last one. Uh cleared out nicely uh by 2.7 lengths. That was a Warwick farm over the 800 metres. I thought was a really nice piece of work. First up into a race like this, clearly they want to try and win, and you're into a golden slipper. So if they do that, they'll be racing again next week. And then info for tractor number one, that's by choice, comes out of that same race with Pembury and a few others. Clearly, the four mine the market wants to be with, and I completely understand. So uh main bet Pembury, and I'll have a little savor maxi on Afari. Not a big fan of this race, but um, I do think those are the two for me.

SPEAKER_00 31:59

Yeah, all right. What about you, Josh? How are you seeing the magic night stakes for the Phillies?

SPEAKER_02 32:04

Well, I was against Pembury in that run last start, so I'm happy to be against it again this weekend from the wide gate. Although I see J Mac jumping the lids and probably going forward uh from that gate this weekend. So if you're on, stick with. But I was against, so I'm gonna be against again this weekend. And I'm making a case that you just made a case for Nathan as well. I'm with number seven Afari on top. I really like that run first up in the maiden at Canberra. He was making a lot of ground late. Um, there the first two in the race, uh, like you mentioned, they're going to the other race, the Pago Pago. But I thought this horse was coming home well, and the step up to the 1200 metres should suit here. From gate six, Kieran McAvoy jumps on, and I think$13 is a good each way price. So Atari on top from the favorite, Pembury will be making its own luck on speed. I doubt he'll be going for cover this weekend, J Mac on Pembury. So if it gets a soft enough lead on the speed, look out at my kick at the top of the strand, be hard to run down. In for third, the first starter you mentioned, Nathan, number 10, Hellenic Bell, like the trolls, uh, will be going back, I would say, from the gate and could be finishing off strong at around the$9, getting a nice each way price there. And then in for fourth, number 11, Kieran Starr comes out of that spicy miss race as well. I just think if they had their time over again, they would have gone more forward as well. So I see Pembury in Kieran Starr being the speed in this race. And then you've got Buy Choice and then Lumbini that might want to go forward as well. So it might be a lot of speed in the race and set it up for some coming from the back. And I hope that's number seven. So Afari for me on top, boys.

SPEAKER_00 33:52

Yeah, I'll I'll go three for three and be against Pembury here. Look just on that wide draw. I I wanted to try and yeah, take it on because I do think there's a lot of speed. J Mac probably recognises this and is probably gonna go back from that wide draw, but I think he's probably not gonna get caught in a pocket this time around. Like from barrier nine, um, if he gets caught in a pocket once again, uh geez, you'd be you'd be you wouldn't be too happy if you were the owner. We'll just say that. Um I'm gonna go with the first starter, Hellenic Bell. Um look, really liked its trials, comes into this with um, you know, no convictions against its name, um, against a field that I think is yeah, lacking a bit of depth, um, as it is a bit of a last ticket to get into that golden slipper. So Hellenic Bell on top for me probably doesn't head towards a slipper, more likely goes towards a Percy Sykes. Um so yeah, it could be a really nice um sharp filly on the up. Uh Afari, that was the same one as well. I like that form line as well. I'm gonna be touching on that form line once again in the next race. Um and you're getting$13 for it. Much easier race than what looks like the Pago Pago is gonna be. But um, yeah, did its best work late from the back of the field. And if there's gonna be a hectic speed up on um speed with the likes of Kieran Star, Lumbini, and by choice, um, you know, that you mentioned, Josh, I think it will set up for some of those at the back of the field. Um in for third have gone with Pembury. Look, looks the obvious class, it was so good there first up, and I guess we don't really know what what was still left in the tank there, second up, so it is the big question mark, but you're taking short odds to find out. And I'll chuck in by choice. Look, honest type, comes out of that spicy missed race as well, up on speed on that occasion. Um, yeah, it looks like it's going to be doing a lot of work up on speed, but even the start before that at the Gold Coast, finishing third behind Unit 5. I thought there was a great run there as well in the Magic Millions, so definitely respect it. Let's head on to the Pago Pago boys, and geez, Central Europe needs to win this to get into a golden slipper pitcher. J Mac jumps on board, draws out in barrier eight, but War Woven, another runner as well, that looked to be all but certain in that golden slipper pitcher, but now the rest of these runners with the prize money and the ballot exempt, like a lot of the horses that we didn't think were going to be in this field, um, heading towards the slipper, are now looking likely to be going towards it with a few late nominations paying up. Now War Woven's in danger and missing the race entirely, so it needs to win this race to get into it as well. Um, then you've got plagiarism and double figures the rest. Nathan, how do you see this Pago Pago panning out? Because geez, it looks like it's gonna be a much deeper race than what the girls are showing.

SPEAKER_01 36:29

You know, initially uh you would have just thought Central Europe was going to show up here, be a dollar 70 and win, but then uh suddenly Warwovens popped up, a few other nice types as well. Uh look, I I'm gonna stick with Central Europe on top. I know uh Josh has a fuges ticket, so we'll be praying for that one so that uh Central Europe wins this race and gets in at a good price for slipper punters. Chances are they will one week back up as well, so that's a little uh little touch wood there. I've got it on top. Uh, not a massive bet again. I just think a little bit too short at the price. Uh so a little just a small bet on Central Europe. The other one that I'm actually going to back each way is a horse that's down towards the bottom of the page, and that's number nine, high alert. Okay, this was a big push. It was in that same race behind Campione di Italia, uh, which you boys also gave a push to. But high alert, I thought was a real forgive. Just kept getting checked back and checked back and checked back. I thought it was a massive forgive run with Nash in the saddle, drew inside, and I just think sitting in between horses, the horse got a little bit uncomfortable, very green, and just kept getting worse, worse midfield. And then that last sort of 200 metres I thought was good through the line. So I want to trust him. I think he can bounce back. And at$21.04 on the placeline, I'll make him my each way bet in the race. I think he's a very, very good price here, high alert. He needs this to obviously get in, and I think he can. Fourth up in the campaign. A little bit awkward from Barrier 7, but if he gets any luck, I think he's a very good chance here at the odds. So Central Europe on top, high alert, uh, the main each way play in the race. Gone with Warwoven in for third, out of respect, but off that last start run, I'm just a little bit trepidatious. It'll jump, it'll go to the top, it'll give you a bold sight. But I mean, I was wrong about paradoxium, so it'll probably win by about seven. So uh keep that in mind. Uh, I'm not seeing the two-year-old picture very clearly at all. Uh, and then in for fourth, I've chucked in number three, plagiarism, the one you referenced, Maxi. Another horse looking to be uh sort of uh go forward and give him a bold sight with Hippo in the saddle. But uh I thought this race dropped off pretty quick outside the top uh couple in the market, but I do say high alert for me, uh, the each way uh play in the race in the Pago Pago.

SPEAKER_00 38:31

Nice bit of value to be found here. Josh, how are you seeing the Pago Pago? No doubt Central Europe on top uh for the love of the horse. So I think geez, I'll be praying for you. Hope it runs well.

SPEAKER_02 38:42

Yeah, thanks, boys. I've got it on top, obviously. I wanted to make the slipper, but because I I've got a bet for it in the slipper, I won't be going too hard this weekend. I'll put it on top, hope it makes the field. But if I was going to have a small H way bet in the race, boys, in for second, my H way play would be number six, Forrest King. I thought that was a really good win first up at Canberra. I've got Afari on top in the race before and the Magic Knight. So here in the Pago Pago, I think Forrest King can bounce off that maiden win. And I think uh 26 to win 4A the players. I think Forrest King is the big each way play in the race. So obviously, I want Central Europe to win, and I've got a bet on it in the slipper, but I'll chop out each way with Forrest King in the Pago Pago just in case it makes an upset. In for third, I'll put in War Woven from gate 10. They'll probably have to push forward. I just hope there's a couple that come across that want to go forward, like a plagiarism star of Jamaica, drum fire. So I hope again there's a bit of speed in this race to set up for some coming from behind. And then in for fourth, I'll put in the world that ran second behind Forrest King, and that's Euripides. Another one that I thought had to do. A bit of work actually in that race at Canberry. Went forward, and Forest King got off its back late and one, draws a softer gate this weekend, but another one that should be put should push forward. Maybe it's looking for a bit further trip, but if it stays on, it could run a really big racer. Another one at double figure. So Central Europe on top, my top pick, but my bet would be Forest King each way.

SPEAKER_00 40:23

Yeah, I'm seeing it very similar to you, Josh. Um, Central Europe on top. Um, and I've also gone Forest King as well. Uh, I really like that form line there at Canterbury. Um, yeah, I thought it was a cracking two-year-old maiden, and Euripides fills out the numbers there for third. Um, look, I want to be following those first three across the line out of that race in Euripides, Forest King uh, and Afari. So look, if I'm having a bet in the race, I think those two um represent some pretty good value. And then Warwoven to finish out my numbers. Um look, draws awkwardly out there from Barrier 10, so that that's my main knock against it, but certainly has the class and does have the figures to run well in a race like this. And now all of a sudden that they have to really put in a lot of effort to try and get that prize money up just to make the feel for the slipper, um, there's going to be some intent there, which you like to see. Alright, boys, that's it for the two-year-olds. Um I think we've already painted our picture on who we like pension heading towards a golden slipper over the last couple weeks. Obviously, Josh, you're keen on Central Europe. Um, heading towards that golden slipper pitcher. Do you think, Nathan, that um are there any going around this weekend that you think could make a big splash, or uh is there maybe one or two that you've got on your mind, or you just need to see that field and you need to see what barriers are drawn just to get a better feel for the race?

SPEAKER_01 41:42

Yeah, 100%. Um of the horses going around, I do think Central Europe's the the main focus. I think uh you think of the horses that'll be on the one-week backup if they can get the job done. That's been the big one, a long way out. I mean, you only have to look at the futures markets to see that. Um, they do not want to lose on this horse um bookies at the moment, so um you'd have to say he's the big watch this weekend if he gets gets in and uh is on the one-week backup, then uh full stem ahead uh for Central Europe Punters. But um, yeah, outside of that, it just looks a bit murky for me. Uh there's a few horses that'll be coming up from Melbourne. We've seen the blue diamond form look really strong, so maybe we can see one of those pop up and uh get the jobby done next week. But yeah, I'll wait for final feels, Maxie.

SPEAKER_00 42:24

Yeah, and you tipped Chao Yan as well last week, its current favourite in a golden slipper market, which is wild to believe. Um, the Philly there. Um, Josh, obviously Central Europe on top for you, heading towards that golden slipper pitcher, one just over a week out.

SPEAKER_02 42:38

Yeah, yeah, that's who I obviously want to be with. But I was making the case post last Saturday that in all the big meetings for the two-year-olds, the girls' races have rated better than the boys' races. So the girls are going better as two-year-olds this year. A bit similarly to last year where Mahoona came up and won the slipper. Even in the blue diamonds, Dry Sand got the chocolates there for the girls beating the boys. Spicy misses race, the time was quicker than Campion d'Italia. And then last week, Cheyenne's time blew the boys off the path. The Riesling was a far quicker race. Now, that doesn't always tell the tape, but just for me personally, the girls have been going better than the boys heading into this year's golden slipper. That's just my opinion. But I'm hoping maybe Central Europe comes out and wins this weekend and uh chalks one up for the boys going well into the golden slipper next weekend.

SPEAKER_00 43:40

Yeah, I I I'm sort of in aggression. I didn't mind the run of spicy miss even as well, um, a couple weeks ago. I think that was in the skyline. Um, and even Champion d'Italia as well for the boys. Look beat Central Europe on that day, and yes, it was a ten out of ten ride there from Tommy Berry on that occasion. But um the horse promise plenty um as well and I think there's more improvement to come and if he can improve you know second up going in towards a golden slipper I I think the$18 on offer at the moment might represent some good value, but yeah, have to wait and see because or plenty of chips to fall, especially with the likes of you know Wynn and you're in um with a few of these runners heading towards that golden slipper pitcher. That's gonna be a fascinating race in just over a week's time, boys. Let's head on to race number seven here at Rose Hills, Farlap Stakes. This is for the three-year-olds, and 60s has lobbed up your favourite here for the Waller Camp. J Mac jumps back on board. Um course went down to south um to the Australian Guineas behind Observer, beaten by nearly a length or so, draws out white this occasion. Um Shangri La Boy, disappointing last start there in the Hobartville behind uh Ninja, and then Panova, the other one there in single figures. So, Nathan, how are you seeing the file up stakes? Because market-wise, looks all about 60s here in this race.

SPEAKER_01 44:58

It is, but at$1.70, and the fair thing in department, I've been against this horse all prep. Now it's done me in a couple times, to be fair. Uh can't be uh got to put my hand up and say that. But thought was good. Uh comes out of the best form race, there's no doubt about that. But$1.70, not for me. I'm happy to be against. I'm gonna back two horses here. One of them I've got on top on an each-way basis. Boys, it's one of the faves. Coming up here with number eight, goes by the name of Federalist. First up, was beaten at Packingham, but forget about it, it should have been winning. Oh, just taken back. Rear of the field. Tia Nugent, dead set, pulled it. No kidding. It was a he just dragged it back. And it ran on really, really nicely. Obviously, missed, would have liked it to break its maiden heading into a race like this, get some confidence up. But second up at the mall, I think this is gonna be a very nice race for this horse. Second, or 1500 metres. Second up here, gelded. It's last run, uh first up run last prep was disappointing behind 60s. But then subsequently, I thought was really good behind Attica. That was over 1600 metres at Randwick. I do think this track's gonna be a little bit interesting, but from barrier seven, I'm just hoping that Dylan Gibbons can find some cover midfield. And I do think they'll go a genuine clip here with the likes of Shangular Boy and a few other speedsters. Just park midfield, sit close enough, peel out. And I'm still convinced that this son of I am invincible has some ability. Second up, Gilded Ot Boys. Come on, last chance for me. Federalists,$23,440 each way all day. Uh, and then the other one I'm gonna back is uh pardon me, one of the Phillies coming to this race was first up in a group one surround, if you don't mind, when beaten by Tempted. And that's number 10, Panova. I think she's got a lot of ability. I thought there was a nice uh end to her run. Her last couple hundred metres was very good. Second up, draws barrier 12 here with Tommy Berry in the saddle. So they'll be back and wide and storming down the middle of the track. Can they get there in time? If she can replicate that final run of her preparation last prep at Flemington uh on the first day of November, I think she can definitely be winning a race like this. I think she's very talented. It's just whether or not she can put it all together in a race like this and beat home this short price favorite, which I've got in for third. Uh, that's 60s. I respect it. Jamak in the saddle, you're just paying a tax there for mine at the$1.70. Could it come out and win? Absolutely. It might even bolt up. But I just can't be with it at the price. Happy to back Federalist and Panova. Uh, and then in for fourth, I'm gonna be forgiving of Shangular Boy. I've got him for fourth. I thought the first up run was very forgivable. Just 1400 metres. I think second up will definitely improve. Bigger field, kick them up a long way out, and I think we'll be uh giving them something to chase up on speed. But yeah, Maxi Hart, I'm happy to be against this favorite. Uh I just think a dollar seventy is too short.

SPEAKER_00 47:37

Alright, what about you, Josh? Are you with this favorite or are you against uh 60s$1.70? It's short, but uh looks the class.

SPEAKER_02 47:45

It does look the class, and if you go by its run last start and the Aussie uh Aussie Guineas, it should be winning this race. But I can't take the price, boys. I can't take the$1.70. I've landed with number 10, Panova on top. Tommy Berry jumps back aboard this horse, second up. Got a wide gate, but hopefully we'll go back and be able to come over the top of them. I just think this horse is better on top of the ground on a good deck, and I think with the track drying up, it's a soft five now. I think we get to that good four on the weekend. 1500 metres here, second up with the with the weight drop there to the 54 and a half. And Walla has a great record in this race with three-year-old Philly. So I'll trust him knowing this is the way to go with Panova. So$8. That's a nice little each-way bet there with Panova in for second. I'll put in 60s. Uh, like like we said, uh, good win in the CS Hayes, and within a length of observing the Aussie Guineas and the sit and sprint tempo style of race. Uh no knock, just hopefully the wide gate. It takes J Mac a bit of time to get across, and uh, there's a bit of speed on on up front with the likes of who I've gotten for third, number two, Shane Gillard Boy. No real excuse from that first up run. It was quite disappointing there in the Hobart field, wasn't it? I had it on top that day, but the market doesn't want to let it go off that run.$7. So they're obviously calling it a massive forgive run. So on speed at Rose Hill, 1500 meters, gate six, Nash jumping back aboard. One that may be able to bounce back in a big way here, and then in for fourth, I'll put in Federalist Nathan. It just still doesn't know how to jump and take a position, even with it being Gilded, it just has no racing manners. If it could jump and get a position, I'd definitely have a go on it each way. But I need to see it do something here in a high-class race. It's going from a maiden now up to a three-year-old group two. Hopefully, it can show something here second up, because I think it really needs to. And then didn't make my top four, but one for Exotics Boys. Don't forget number six top reward here, Craig Williams on for the Clayton Douglas yard. This horse is the query runner in this race, ran fifth tob server in the lead up to the Aussie Guineas. Then trolled and blinkers behind Globe, didn't like the blinkers, so now they're taking the blinkers back off. But from a soft gate, we'll go forward, and it has some nice little form lines. They wouldn't bring it up here if they didn't think it was gonna run a solid race here. So put it in all exotics, I think, top reward. But for me, I'll go with the Waller Philly here, and Panova goes on top for me, Max.

SPEAKER_00 50:42

Yeah, see where you're coming from. I want to be against his favorite two in 60s. I've gone with Shangri-La Boy, just gone the other way. Um, look, just forgive it there. First up, look, he wasn't great first up on that occasion when he went around at Canterbury, uh at his first ever race start, but improved ultra um when he ended up cracking the maiden on that occasion. So I'm kind of putting it down to that. He might not be a first up performer, second up, he did salute, so um, yeah, really hoping he can bounce back. Um had a bit of a gap in between runs as well, um, which I kind of like leading in towards this, and heads towards Rose Hill. Might just be, yeah, I I think Rose Hill is his better of the two tracks between Rose Hill and Ramwick. So I want to be following it. Uh in for second, gone with Panova um for everything you mentioned. Huge behind tempted uh their last start in the surround stakes from the back of the field, but just yeah, needs to sell a little bit closer, but it's gonna be hard to do there for Tommy Berry from barrier 12 60s goes in the mix there as well. Um, wide draw, not sure what they do. They could roll the dice, try and go forward because there doesn't look to be too much tempo outside of Shangri-Lar Boy, and then the other one that could push up, um probably sit on the hammer of Shangri-Lar Boy would be top award to the one that you outlined there, late Josh. Um barrier one, jump, go forward, try and get onto the back of Shangri-Lar Boy and pill if it's back. But if it's a bit of a leader's day there at Rose Hill, which it can be on a drawing deck, rail in the true position, I want to be all over Shangri-Lar Boy, just ticks all the boxes for me. Alright, let's go on to the group one feature of the day. The Coolmore Classic, 1500 metres. Lazura has lobbed up your favourite here for J Mac as he closes in ever so closer towards Oli's record. Ran second last start there behind Sinsolt, looking to improve, go one better. Savvy Halley, Ole Dancer in the mix alongside Verona Rose. Nathan, what do you like in this next at Rose Hill?

SPEAKER_01 52:31

Yeah, I think it's a very interesting race. I'm gonna keep it simple, boys. I'm gonna back two horses. I'm gonna back the best form, and that's the surround stakes. I'm happy to be with Savvy Halley and Ole Dancer. I think one of them can win this race. I want to trust that form. I said it after the race, I thought those were the two uh coming out of that form line behind Tempted. Tempted, we talked about comes through the best, uh, well, comes through the Everest, the length of Kaying. These horses are right in the mix against that horse, albeit over 1400 metres. But I respect the heck out of Tempted, and I think uh she might even be the best sprinter in Australia. I'm just putting it out there. Uh I've said that for a while. So hopefully she can win a TJ. They'll take her to the Arrowfield, but hopefully she can win a TJ. Um, but uh I want to trust that form. Obviously, stepping up to 1500 metres looks ideal. Savvy Halley, barrier 13, jump, cross them, we'll give a bold sight. Did electrifying work in the surround stakes. She's rock hard fit now, fourth up into the campaign. Is it a run too many against these older older mares? I'm not sure, but I'll trust her and I'll trust the Brad Wittett team. She's going well enough. And then the other one, Ole Dancer. I mean, she was phenomenal as well, up on speed, attempted got by them, but I think with a sit from Barrow 11, they can just drag back. They'll go a bit quicker here, and she can get the last crack at them. I think she's very talented. Obviously, a thousand guineas winner. Uh, so you've got to be trusting her. I think she can win this race.$5 and$7 a piece. I'll have 60 on Savvy Halley, I'll have 40 on Ole Dancer. That's how I'll be betting the race in for 30 goal on Lazura. Gotta trust her. She's going so, so good. The first up run behind Sineso was excellent. Uh, punters are still wondering how she didn't win, but she was great that day. The trial since was good. And then her form last prep behind Pride of Jenny, that form just jumps off the page when you look at this race. So you you can definitely uh take her with some confidence. I understand the price about her. I think she's probably fair enough at around that 460, honestly. Uh, she's got like that top weight, but I do think she earns it in a race like this. And the other one that earns the weight is number two, Manal, rounds out my numbers there. She's going very, very well. Uh, but SPD short price when beaten by Verona Rose. Verona Rose is$9 here, so interesting to tie that form in. Um, I'm going with the younger horses here, Maxi. I'm happy to trust uh the three-year-old. So I'll go with Savvy Halley and Ole Dancer to upset some of these older horses.

SPEAKER_00 54:40

All right. What about you, Josh? How are you seeing the cool more for the girls?

SPEAKER_02 54:44

I might be a bit blasphemy here. Blasphemy here, boys, but I'm going against the surround form this year. I know it won the race last year with Lady Shenon, but um I'm not sure these two are the A-grade three-year-old files this year going towards this race with Ole Dancer and Savvy Halley. So I'm against them. And I just think Lasur's too short going into a race like this. I thought it disturbed and had every chance to win first up, and it might bounce big time here second up, but at the price of$4.60, I have to be against. So I'm having three bits in the race this year, boys. And my on-top runner, I feel has the best rating of any horse in this race, but has to replicate it. And that was when it ran second in this race last year to Lady Shenandoah. On top of number nine Firestorm. I think this horse is just gonna run a big race here, second up, going back to Rosehill 1,500 metres. Tyler Schiller jumps back on. The last time he was on this horse, I believe, was when it ran second last year in this race. So Lady Shenandoah drops back down to the 53 and a half kilos, and I'm getting$13. And I think this race will be run at a good enough pace where Firestorm can get back and run on from the back. So$13, I'll have$40 to win on Firestorm and put it on top, and then I'll have two$30 to win saves on two horses that I think mapped to get the best runs in the race. In for second, I'll be having 30 to win on number four for Rona Rose. What this horse has done nothing wrong. It's gone to a new level since it went and won at Flemington at the end of last prep. Then I thought was a great return by Unweeping Woman. And second up, I thought was a great win behind uh beating Manal. Third up, gate four, read a peak here. Craig Williams sticks for the ride. Before the odds opened final fields for this race, it was$4.50 favourite. Drawsgate four blew out to$10. So I don't know what's going on there, but this horse can run a really big race here, and at$9 I'll have$30 to win on that. And then in for third and my last$30 to win, I'm gonna go with number two Manal. I just think this horse is better at Rose Hill as well and ready to peak third up. I know it's got to carry the weight, but it was ridden upside down in this race last year where it lost by free length, Salation and Dower carrying the 51 kilos. They went sat and led on a hot speed. I think from gate two, I know they've got to go up seven kilos from last year, but they get a really soft run here with Jason Collett sticking for the ride. And$4.20 and$3.40, its first two starts. And now we're getting$10. We're getting a nice price here to have a go. So I have my last 30 to win on Menard. And then for fourth, I'll put in Ole Dancer, the three-year-old. Think it's going really well. Ray, the peak here, third up, just gate 11 was the little knock for me. And I've got a little bit of a query about this thousand guineas last prep from Caulfield based on how apocalyptic has gone from that run. So just a little query on that horse. Savvy Halley drawing an awkward gate as well. That's why I've gone against it. But three bets for me, boys. 40 to win on Firestorm, and 30 to win both on Verona Rose and Manal in a very open edition of the Cormore Classic this year.

SPEAKER_00 58:32

Yeah, it always is this race. It looks to be a cracking race once again. I've gone with that surround form, the form that you're knocking there, Josh. But uh I see what you mean. Draws awkwardly, Savvy Halley goes on top for me, 50 to win, and then uh the other 50 goes on Ole Dancer, hoping to get a result between those two runners. Um, yeah, draws awkwardly out there, but I just want to trust it behind Tempted. I think you outlined it perfect, Nathan, that if Tempted lines up in a race like this, what price? Um, to be honest, yeah, tempted would be better over the 1200 meter than she would 15.

SPEAKER_02 59:04

Can I be honest, boys? I tempted won't run the trip out, so I don't think you'd get a price.

SPEAKER_00 59:11

No, but but but in terms of like the quality of the horse, yeah. I agree. I think a tempted lobbying in a race like this would be a very, very short price favourite. And Savvy Howley nearly ended up getting a beat there last start in the surround stakes. I think Savvy will only improve stepping up another hundred metres. Um, and same with Ole Dancer as well. I think the step up and trip will definitely suit. It's only an extra hundred. Um, but yeah, I want to follow that form line. Both of them third up in the campaign, so they're looking to peak uh as well, and there's been nothing wrong with their runs there first up, um, in for second. Oh sorry, they're my first two, in for third, I'll chuck in Lazura, this favourite here. Um look, went down in the Milly Fox at a short price on that occasion, beaten by Sinsolt, um, who took a big step up in grade, backed at the trials, nice little trial there, um, little tick over, and look, makes its own luck up on speed, pretty versatile, can settle midfield. And I think J Max is going to try and do that, get a little bit of cover in this race, and if there's enough tempo, it'll be in the finish. And then I'll chuck in Sinsolt up coming out of that Millie Fox form line uh as well. Um, yeah, was just able to pinch a break there at the top of the straight and hold on for dear luck. Um it was a big step up in gray to go from 74 to winning a group two, and now finds itself in a group one at single figures, but um look, draws a nice barrier, and this horse might just be going to another level. Um it just keeps winning, and you know what they say about May's inform boys, uh, keep following him in. Alright, let's move on to the last race we're covering, and this is the Ajax Stakes. Militarize, geez, he's been costly, hasn't he? Has lobbed up your favourite here. Lord Penman in for second, market wise alongside Globe and Exuno. Nathan, how are you seeing the Ajax Stakes?

SPEAKER_01 1:00:47

Yeah, interesting race. So we've got a couple of dual acceptors here. The main one that I'm touching on is number seven, Inxuto. Uh, I've got it on top. Uh, it's racing, it's dual accepted for Caulfield, an early race of Corfield. I think either race it goes to, I'm pretty keen. I think third up in the campaign here has been very, very well placed here for Robbie Rivers team. The first run was great behind Cafe Millennium, subsequently ran into Birdman. You boys mentioned that horse, whether that goes to the skyline or goes to Caulfield, got to be a live chance in both of those races. So I want to trust that form here. Third up in the campaign, back to 1500 metres. And this horse is right in the market for a race like the Villiers when beaten by Yorkshire, and then a crambin cut when beaten by Sabahs. You referenced that horse, Maxie. Uh, but that was huge last week in the all-star mile. So I want to trust that horse. I want to trust that form. And I think Exudo third up, reader peak. That'll do me barrier two. Yes, please. Tyler Schiller on the saddle should get a lovely run here with the 53 kilos. I think it looks well placed. I hope it goes to Sydney because I think it's a better race for him overall. So Exudo on top in the feature, or in this feature. If we're seeing going number two, militarise. Like you said, Max, his horse is just becoming costly. I made a best bet there. First up when beaten by King of Russo. So probably got a little bit further back than I would have liked from barrier one, but hit the line well, said back my next start. And so, geez, I might have a little saver there at$3.60 because uh if I get beat uh by JMAC here, I'll probably kick myself. But yeah, it was unlucky uh not to win last time. So can definitely win here. Second up up to 1,500 metres. It was a little bit disappointing, second up last prep, but he did run into open company behind Fangirl in the seven stakes, so a little bit forgiving there with militarized in for third off track to number three. That's Robusto. Bjorn here, uh he just knows how to get his horse going. He's a little let up there with the 63 days, but a good barrier trial behind Crystal Clear, who's in the race as well. First up last prep was good behind Cole Crusher. That was at Newcastle over 300 metres. So the setup here, good track and distance form. So draws barrier five, Timmy Clark in the saddle. Not a lot of knocks. Uh horse has been really good for connections, and at$12, could do a lot worse there from barrier five. And then I've chucked your number four, that's sandpaper. This will be the jump lead and give a bulb bold side again. This horse was uh right in the market when beaten by Tom Kitten. That was around$8.50 at Corfield over 1400 metres in the Heffenon. Now comes to Sydney and$15. So sandpaper's one that I'd be definitely chucking in my quaddy numbers if I was having one. But Exuto on top for me, Maxi, if it ends up here.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:08

Alright. What about you, Josh? Best or how are you finding this race, Ajax stakes? Win and you're in towards a Doncaster.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:15

I agree with you, Nathan. I'm with him too, though. If it comes here on top, I'm worried it might stay at Corfield. But why not come to Sydney? You're winning you're in Doncaster. And like you said, it's got good form over the mobines, both Sabaja and Yorkshire. So at around$6, I think the market's got about right. I'll put it on top. I think it maps to get a very good run for the race. And for second, I'll put in Lord Penman. They need to win this race to probably make a Doncaster field. And I'm hoping with enough speed on up the front there with Globe and Sample that Lord Penman gets its chance coming over the top. Zack Lloyd jumping on from gate 10, but dropping down to the 53 kilos. Run should run well here. Second up coming to Rose Hill up to the 1500. In for third, I'll put in Militarize. I really have to see it win now to follow it with any confidence. It's been a long time between drinks now, hasn't won since obviously its three-year-old season winning the golden rose. So uh a bit of a D-Day here for Militarize here, second up, but probably already has enough to make it Don Casterfield. And Globe in for fourth I would have put it on top, but it might have to do a bit too much work coming across from gate 11. But this horse last prep did win a group one beating both Treasure the Moment and Buckaroo. So it has the class, hence why it's got the 59 kilos, but wouldn't be shocked if Globe won this race. But for me, Insunto on top, and if it goes to Caulfield, I'll be landing with Lord Penman.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:51

Yeah, I see where your boy's coming from as well. I've just gone the other way. Lord Penman on top. I think now he's got the win under his belt here on Australian soil, who take that full of confidence and can progress through the grades, and by progressing with the grades, hopefully end up in a Doncaster because this is going to be a tough race for him. But uh you're getting you know short price to find out. Zachy Lloyd jumps in the saddle, so that's no negative there. Um, you know, draws barrier 10. He's gonna have to be good from that barrier. But I I I just really like that win there. The last start, I think he'll take a great deal of confidence for it. And he came over here with a big boom uh to his name or big expectations, so hopefully he can deliver on that from Iksuno. Everything you boys have outlined, um look, has gone close and down to you know, gone down to some very, very classy horses like Cafe Millennium and Birdman uh, for instance, and they wouldn't be remiss in a race like this. Globe goes in there for third, and they'll chuck in militarise for everything you boys have outlined. Look, just so costly there, draws barrier one and went up on the inside, which was the inferior part of the ground there behind King of Rousseau. So look, another forgive for him. But geez, you you're gonna be very forgiving if you want to keep. Backing him, that's for sure. Can't take him at that price, unfortunately. Alright, that's it in terms of the races we're covering. So, best bets, boys. Let's try and find a few. So, Nathan will come to you first. Where are your best bets lobbying for this weekend?

SPEAKER_01 1:06:13

Yeah, I've got two at Rose Hill, one at Corfield for my best bets. We'll stay at Rose Hill since we're already there. We'll go back earlier in the programme. We'll start with race number two, is where you'll find my next best on this card, and that comes in the form of number four to Zima in this benchmark, 78 over 1900 metres. I really like Tazima. I think Rita P here, third up in the campaign, was well beaten last time behind DeCorum. But that horse they fought enough to chuck it into a rank with Guinea's, and I thought ran okay uh last week, uh despite being well beaten by she's an alibi. I think this horse a little bit flat second up there over the mile, but third up, 1900 metres at Rose Hill, placed twice at this track, uh albeit with only those two runs, and was good behind Juju Kibo over 2500 metres and around this grade. So I think Reader Peak here, third up in the campaign, we get J Mac in the saddle, drawn gate two, nice soft run in transit. Watch for Tezima to be stormy over the top. I do like unleashing, it's a nice horse, but I think Tazima a little bit lightly raced and a little bit more upside for me. So Tazima, the best, uh the next best at Corfield. But for my best of Rose Hill, geez, I'll get there. But my best bet at Rose Hill actually comes up in race number five, and that is the Sky High Stakes. We mentioned Birdman might be coming to this race. Bring it on, I say, because Wooton Verney is my best bet at Rose Hill. I really like that form line, obviously, behind Autumn Glow there. Last start over the 1600 metres uh in the group one, very elegant stakes, third up, 2,000 metres. This horse was doing excellent work around this time last preparation, uh, winning back-to-back starts, won the Coongi, and then came out and won that group three at this course and uh sorry, uh Rand Week over 2,000 metres at the end of the campaign, beating Imperialist by 2.3 lengths, gave it an absolute baff. And the two runs this campaign are suggested to come back in really good order. We get J Mac in the saddle, he would have had the choice, and that's what makes me think Birdman won't end up in this race. I just feel like J-Mack probably would have put his hand up to ride Birdman if that horse was going to be here. But if he's confident with Wooten Verdi, that will do me.$3.20. Make it my best bet at Rose Hill in the sky high. But my best bet anywhere in Australia this weekend comes at Caulfield, and we've got to go to race number two. We got it the job early, uh the job done early with Legacy Bound last week. Hopefully, never mind it's scratch, boys. It was gonna be Amina, it's come out. It's come out, it was gonna be a meaner. Amina's scratched. Uh so I'm in that same race. Uh, we'll go with photograph. Photograph will be the best bet.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:35

Um right, new best bet for us. Give photographs.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:38

It's a hypothetical one, though. It's not a real one, uh, because I I was pretty keen on Mina. So no, no, no.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:44

But now it's chips in all about photograph, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:46

Yeah, we'll say that because give it straight. Trinity College comes out. I spruit that also to you boys as the best bet of the year. And then now Bloody Amina's coming out. Oh, it's just what an awful way to end the podcast for me. But hopefully found a few winners there, boys. So two going around at Rose Hill, go to Zima, and also Woods and Verney.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:05

Nah, that's it. Walton Verney, it's going to be lobbying there as well, uh, bringing that nice form-line born autumn glow. Josh, best bets this weekend. Are they scratched? Are they running?

SPEAKER_02 1:09:15

No, they're all running, thankfully. Last time I checked, so fingers crossed, boys. But we'll start in Sydney, and my best bet there, we're going to the lucky last boys. And there's a horse here that I really like stepping up second up to the 400 meters, and race number 10, number 14, Modella is my best bet in Sydney this weekend. Really like the run finishing off first up behind Sinsold and Lasura. Second up, 400 metres, staying at the 55 kilos. Drawn gate two, Saki Lloyd jumping on. There's enough speed in this race with both Sovereign Hill and Perfumist going forward. Hopefully, we can come over the top there late. And I think this horse has got a lot of ability. And at$4.80, I'm happy to make that my best bet in Sydney. So Modella goes on top there in the last. Now down to Melbourne. I've got two bets down there. We're going to start with race number four. And I was with this horse first up, and I thought it was a massive run. Race number four at Caulfield, number seven, Tane Orlele. I really liked its run first up behind, get a good feeling. Stepping up to 400 metres here, second up. Harry Coffey, gate two, sit behind these leads. This horse is a very good turn of foot. And the last time this horse stepped up to 400 metres, it ran second to She's an alibi. So Tane Orlale at$4.20, I think is a cracking bet. But my best bet at Caulfield, we're going to the second last. And this horse got beat, I think, by the track bias a little bit last week. Going race number nine, number 12, Salty Pearl. The boys saying get the name right. Okay. It might be called Hawaii after it wins this weekend, boys. But Tane or Laley until it gets up this weekend. But yeah, so Salty Pearl, my best bet at Corfield. Race nine, number 12. I thought it was enormous from the back of the pack last start there behind Sass Appeal and Pillow Fight. They're two on-speed runners on the day where you had to be full. This horse was flying late on the week backup. They wouldn't do that if this horse wasn't ready to go. Sticking at the mile, soft gates, John Allen jumps on,$2.40. That's going to be uh the best bet at Corfield Salty Pearl. And now for my thai runner, we're going up to the Gold Coast boys because there's one I followed last prep that's gone back up there, and I think it can run really well here. First up. So race eight at the Gold Coast number one, Call DaVinci. Martin Harley jumps on here for the Lamming Camp at around the$10. I think it can run a big first up run here. Had some good form last prep. First up, running second behind Bacash. And then just was buying good ones there in Panova. And she's an alibi. Tried to stay up to the 2,000, but was just at the end of its prep. Goes back up there to Brisbane, draws a soft gate here in gate three, where all the dangers have drawn car park barriers. Sit close to the speed. And hopefully, with that freshness and its legs, can run a really big race there. So call DeFinci at$10 up there. Race eight at the Gold Coast, number one, my failure runner of the weekend. So they're my best bet, boys. Wish them luck. And it's Hawaii if it wins this weekend.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:47

Oh, it's winning this weekend. Don't you worry, Josh. It's one of my best going around this weekend. Had the one bet down there at Caulfield. And yes, it's race four, number seven. Tien Olele. Hawaii. Give him strength going into this weekend, boys. Got another best bet on the Saturday as well. Going to go back up to Sydney. Rose Hill, the Maurice McCartin race number six here. I liked one of a little bit of odds here. Horse number eight, Mal Coop. On a bit of a winning streak here. This one here for Steve O'Halloran. Yeah, it's just been running so, so well. And the market's been following it as well. It's been beating nice horses along the way. Like your polyglot, like your IFIR, like your let's go again. And that last start win, one and a half lengths, it put that field to the sword there, benchmark, you know, uh 88 level, and now finds itself in black type grade. It deserves to be here. Um, of the other runners in this race. Look, uh Koguelan, he's costly. Um look, he got the chocolate last start, but only just beating off Tonkin on that occasion. King Secret, the other one there as well, along with Flying for Fun. But Malcoop, I reckon, uh, represents a pretty good value in that race. But boys, we've got to be having a bet on the Friday. So all those early listeners out there to the potty, hopefully you're having a listener this before. Kembler Grange and their race meeting there of the Kemblack Grange Classic is run and one. So we'll go to race number seven, the feature race of the day, group three level for the three-year-old Phillies. Really good Phillies have won this race in the past, like your lover lover, um, like your Pahuta Kawas. And last year it was taken out by Verona Rose, finds itself in a group one this weekend. So I'm don't know if this is group one level, but uh I'm gonna go with the toppy here in Spicy Lou. Last start, ran behind She's an Alibi. Yes, beaten by about three lengths or so, um, but brings She's an Alibi form to what looks like a pretty alright sort of average sort of race. Most of these runners are around that benchmark 72 sort of level and brings a bit of backward black type form to this. Um if Spicy Lou lobs at her best, she will be running close. Nasha Wheeler jumps on board, ticks plenty of boxes, and the race before as well at Cambler Grange, race number six, it's a benchmark 94. You don't see that too often on uh some of the um I guess the midweek cards. I'm gonna go with a favourite here in Bunker Hutt. Um look, it just brings the class to this race. Um, yes, has to carry top weight against this field, but all these other runners are stepping up in grade, whereas Bunker Hart, this is his level 94. All these other runners are maybe 78, maybe a benchmark 88 at their best, and they got a face on Bunker Hart. Bunker Hart doesn't give up too much weight against this sort of field as well, against well-timed and charcoals. Um,$3.50 looks absolute value, boys. So I'll be loading up on those ones on Kembler Grange Classic Day, and as well as the one at Rose Hill and the one at Corfield as well. So give them strength for this weekend, boys. Hopefully, we have a stack of winners. Nathan, Monster Pod as always, and next week, geez, I can't wait for it. It's Golden Slipper Day. We're building towards it for so so long. It's finally here, brother.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:48

Yeah, the appetizer's great this weekend, but the entree is going to be oh so good. Cannot wait for next week. Massive group ones all over the shop. The Ramvant, the Galaxy, and then the Golden Slipper. Hopefully, uh, we've found a few winners this weekend leading into it, so we can have an absolute fill up for that.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:04

Josh, go well as well this weekend. Hopefully, build up a nice little kitty going towards Golden Slipper Day.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:10

Yeah, that's it. Hopefully, we've found the stack of winners and we can load that up, boys, into a massive pod next week for the listeners for the big Group One racing there at Rose Hill. But got to get through this weekend, and hopefully, there's a stack of winners there for us, boys.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:24

Oh, there certainly will be. We tip to a stack of winners, give them more strength, and to all the listeners out there, good luck on the pun.