When Church Gets Cringe And How To Fix It

Some of the biggest obstacles to faith aren’t intellectual arguments, they’re Christians doing bizarre, performative things and calling it “God.” We get honest about the viral moments that make the church look unhinged: stunts in services, street-corner screaming, and the kind of “bold” behavior that feels more like attention seeking than love. When outsiders see that stuff, they don’t just reject the messenger, they assume the message itself must be broken.

We also dig into the quieter kind of weirdness that happens in normal church culture. If you didn’t grow up in church, phrases like “the blood of Christ,” the mechanics of communion, or the unspoken rules around giving and dressing up can feel confusing or even scary. We talk about how man-made traditions get treated like biblical commands, how that pushes people away, and why we should be able to explain what we do in plain language with humility.

Then we zoom out to megachurch dynamics and the money conversation. Big rooms come with big logistics, big assumptions, and real pressure to keep things moving without turning worship into a concert line. We talk about what it looks like when churches use their platform to show healthy Christianity at scale, and why keeping the gospel simple matters more than building a brand.

And yes, we take a hard left into a “Guess The Jingle” showdown that will unlock your childhood memories and prove how powerful catchy marketing really is. If you’ve ever wondered why certain lines stick in your head for decades, you’ll love this part.

Listen, share this with a friend who’s church-curious, and leave a review if the conversation helps you. What’s the weirdest “Christian” thing you’ve ever seen, and what would you change about church culture today?

Transcript

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Just gonna sit there and look pretty. How about that? I am very handsome. If he does say so himself. Definitely doesn't struggle with humility. What's up, everyone? No, no. Welcome. No. To a brand new episode. Uh-uh. I'm not participating. I'm not participating

Cold Open And Chaotic Introductions

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in this podcast. Can I leave? I'm leaving with you. On today's episode. My word is. We are going to be talking about weird Christians. I love how you didn't introduce us. Yeah, that's what I was about to say. So do we just leave? I'm not done. And the weird Christians that we're going to be talking about are Michael Simmons. He's in the And as always. Why are you talking smooth in my ear? Don't like it. We've got tie tie. I'm feeling seduced and I don't like it anymore.

What “Weird Christians” Look Like

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Feel that type of way. My ankles are sweating a little bit. We also have Richie Rich. I'll take my headphones off. No. I'm not gonna do it. I feel like he he sounds like he's in a commercial. Like commercial Randall. The one and only. I'm not talking to you. And as always, producer Zeke. Yeah. AKA my son. Yeah. I'm not your son with that voice now. He called him the fruit of his loins one time in a sermon. What does that mean? He can explain your apple. What's up, what's up, what's up, what's up, what's up, what's up, everybody. We are so excited to be here with you today. We're gonna be talking about weird, weird, weird Christians, man. Like it's it's it's I don't I don't some people are weird. Some people were you ever seen somebody and you're like, I I get why people don't want to be a part of that. Uh-huh. Yeah. It's weird. It's quite weird. Do you have y'all seen and this this idea kind of sparked from a video of the evangelist that made a teenager eat a page out of the Bible? Oh, yeah. I I didn't see like the video, but I saw a post about it. For what purpose? What was his thought process? Because God is going to come upon you once you eat this page of the Bible. It says something like you you are eating the Spirit of God. Was that on YouTube? I haven't seen that. It is, yeah. It's just dumb. It's it's it's weird, man. Yeah. Well, and there's all I mean, just you can look up video after video after video of just nonsensical things in a church service. It's just crazy. I don't, I don't understand. I love the the holy nope. Yeah, I disagree with them sometimes on some stuff, but but some of them are pretty spot on. Right. It's like I get it, man. I really do. I I understand what he's trying to get at. Yeah. It's like it's weird. You ever see these videos? I know you're the TikToker or YouTuber or whatever, but Nah. My son, everyone. I saw, but but I did see one video. This was like back in like 2025, late 2025. I thought when he said back, I thought he was gonna say like, you know, back in the 90s, 2015. Back when y'all was in 1970. Eeez. Okay. There ain't no y'all. Us two, these two, yeah, weren't alive back then. This one, make make your make make

Wild Church Stunts And Cult Energy

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your back in the eighties jokes, because then you can clear. I was I was I was born the same year Star Wars came out. 1977. The first one. Go ahead. Um The original. The revenge of the Sith. I saw this one video where it was um this dude thought God told them to like build a big arc, like Noah did. And his name was like on like TikTok or YouTube was like Ark Noah or something like that. Yeah. So he built a huge ark and he said it was gonna rain on like then he put it in Kentucky to charge people to see it. And then um and he said it's gonna rain like again in like December or something. Yeah, I think. And when he did, like, he got a bunch of people to like go on his arc and everything. Yeah. And then once it hit that date, nothing he like he got arrested and he spent his time uh like Christmas in jail. Yeah, it's weird. Yeah, it's weird, man. And that's what amazes me about this is no matter how ridiculous it sounds, somebody will follow it. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's yeah, you're you're right. One, it's how the cults start, it's how that those things start, you know. It's just you get tattoos and then it's crazy, man. I don't start playing with snakes and right. And it and you again, you wonder how people can be that naive and that crazy to because some of this stuff is not only do you have no no backing scripturally, you have no backing at all because they'll change what they're saying 15 times. Well, and there are entire religions based on things that had to change multiple times. Right. And it's like, how do you continue to believe something that you had to modify to make to make it make sense? Like it doesn't y'all seen that video? It was uh it was when Charlie Kirk was still alive and he was R.I.P. R.I.P. And he was talking on a campus, and this guy comes up to the microphone and was like, God told me to come up here and have a fist fight with you. Yeah, I saw that. I think I saw that. It's so weird. And he was a white guy. And and then Charlie Kirk was like, wait, didn't we just have a black guy up here that was like like right on my side of things? And right. Yeah. Well, people forgot that Charlie Kirk was like 6'5. He's a big dude. Yeah. I mean, it's you know, I wouldn't want to fight him. And it's it's dude, I don't we we had a there's a lady in Auburn that went around yelling at students for eight hours a day, every day on the street corners, screaming at the top of her. It's weird, man. You're like you're a weirdo. Stop it. Stop what you are doing. Yep. And it it just it it seems like more and more people are getting into that the weirdness because it it draws attention. Right. You know, it's like the more I'm out there, the more attention I'm getting, the more views I'm getting. Even if it's bad feedback, it's feedback at least. And it's just it just spoils what what what the rest of us are trying to do because it's so out there that people are like, I don't want any part of that. Yeah, and and and we get associated with that, and and we're all under that same umbrella, yeah. And it's like, hey, you know, they have that experience, and then one of us can go up to that same person, hey, we're doing this, you know, cool church event, and blah, blah, blah. And they want nothing to do with it. Yeah. Right. And you just want to tell you, you're out there

When Attention Seeking Hurts The Gospel

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screaming at people on a street corner with a sign, you're weird. Stop. It it's it's you're you stop it. You're not, you're not, oh well, I'm doing what God has called me to do. No, no, you're weird. That's what that's what you're doing. You're weird. You can't, there's nowhere you can back that up in scripture. Stop it. And then you're you're weird and you're ineffective. Right. You're actually doing the opposite. You're pushing people away. Exactly. You know, not not once have you screamed at someone and they go, You're right. Let me I'll change my ways. Let me go up here and and yeah, and change my ways and and give my like, no, you're not. You're you're very ineffective and you're pushing people away. Stop it. The people who go in to we've talked about this before, that go into stores and jump up on a counter and start shouting at the top of their lung Christian songs. You're weird. Stop. Yeah, it's just dumb. It it's so frustrating, man. When they they're I can't remember the dude's name, but he's been all over Facebook forever. But he has a church and he's a he's a he's a pastor, and he, I mean, he's just so radical, yeah, that his views are are destructive to Christianity. Yeah. And it's like but he still gets the views because he's controversial. Right. So it's it's like people just want to hear what this idiot has to say. It's it's so disheartening because you you you're trying to now, so by the time you get these people that's seen all this in and giving God a chance, you've got to break so many walls down because they've got so much up because they've dealt with that stuff in their lives, and it's just crazy. And what I really hate is a is a is a Christian that starts off quote unquote normal. Yeah. You know, really, really preaching the gospel and and and really having solid views, and then they go off the rails at some point. And it's like you started off so good. You had the audience, and then they use that following to just completely go off of what they started out as. Yeah. And it it goes back to getting away a little bit at a time from the word of God. Just a little bit at a time, a little bit at a time, a little bit at a time, and it just by a year later, you're so far away you can't even recognize what you're doing. Right. You know, I do you have friends that

Drifting From Scripture And Meeting People

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think like like church people are weird? Sometimes. Yeah? Yeah. Cause like I have this one friend that isn't um like isn't a full Christian yet, right? Cause like he believes in like he says he believes in like every religion, right? And I'm trying to like I'm trying to talk to him about like Jesus and telling him that like it's the only like God and everything. So and every anytime like I'll talk to him, he moves like from like 50% to like more like Christian stuff. Cause he said anytime I would talk to him about it, he said he would believe it more. Because like just the way everything like gets put together and everything. It's amazing how some people the the the more you go to them and meet them on their level where they're at, like, oh okay, this isn't so bad. Like it it doesn't have to be this crazy, right, weird sect of belief, you know, it's it's just and and some I mean, even from just denomination to denomination, some of them are just their beliefs are wacky. Right. It's like, what in the world is going on? It's like to each their own, believe whatever you want to believe, but man, do you not see how weird that is to the outside world? Like, and some of it, some of it's inspiring. So here's what I mean by that. So, like um, like say, um, what's the group of people that like, you know, they don't do cars and and all that. Um, there's a lot that I respect about that community. Like, man, okay, at least they believe in this lifestyle and they they follow through with it and they they get stuff done. It's awesome, but there's some of those type of thing, and it's like, where do you get this from? Yeah, where are you pulling this from? Like, it's just some dude said it one day and that's what we hit hitch everything on. Yeah, and that's all that's that is how a lot of and it's not even religion uh to say it's it's the man-made traditions and how we do things pass down uh time after time after time after time. It's just that's it it boils down to that's just how we do things. Yeah. Well, and it it it even you know you've talked about this before about how if you weren't raised in church that some of the some of the traditions and some of the ways we talk, you know, for somebody that just comes into that is like like the blood of Christ. Yeah, it's like oh what communion would be terrifying to somebody who had no idea, you know, we're gonna drink the blood. Well wait, what yeah, like wait a second, yeah. Raise my hand, I got a question. Yep. So it's it's it's about educating people about the the normal side of Christianity and warning them away

Church Traditions That Scare Newcomers

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from the weird Christianity. Right. And just being able to explain those things. Hey, look, this is this is why it means that this is what we lean on, this is why. But some of their beliefs is it it has nothing to do with the word of God, even though that's their foundation, but a lot of the beliefs that they hitch their wagon to is a guy in 1905 said this. Well, and it's it's all about interpretation, right? Some somebody, like you said, back in whatever year they founded themselves, interpreted a scripture a certain way, and they just ran with it. And it just went just went stupid. Well, and it's just like read it. Hold up, read it. Like that's not what it says. Obviously, like it's just I I bet I bet in every area, region of this country, or even the world, there's a percentage of people that are like, Oh, I I can't go to church because I don't have a tie, or I don't know. Right. Yeah, 100%. That's weird to me. And you've talked to people that I was gonna come to church, but I didn't have an offering. Yeah. It's it's not something you pay admission to. All right, yeah, okay. And and they've been almost brainwashed to think that way. Right. Gotta look a certain way, gotta do certain things in order to be accepted into this. Right. And it it's that there's no scriptural backing, there's nothing like that. It's just like, who told you this? Right. And that's what it comes down to. If you can't show me in the Bible, I don't want to hear it. Right. Next. Yeah. Yeah. Straight up. Let's move on. And it it just is, I think it's just damaging to Christianity as a whole. And and all that is from past experiences. Um there are people that have been probably looked down upon or given those weird looks of when the offering plate comes around and they grab it and just pass to the next person. Yeah. Well, that's what I and it's small things like that that gosh, like like I would feel like really weird and awkward and out of place if you know the offering plate came to me and I didn't have a dollar bill and I just passed it along, and people are like, Right, and just look at you. Yeah. Yep. And I I've literally had people say, Well, I pay online and somebody will look at me, and I have to pay online, I pay online. Everybody like it's weird. It shouldn't matter. That's between you and God. Right. And that's why I like that you announce, you know, the QR code, and that that's an option, and people understand that a lot of people do that. So I I I like the, you know, because there's a lot of controversy and a lot of different things going on with different megachurches in the country. I watched a video where this guy went to some of the more popular, more famous, quote, um, megachurches in the country. You know, kind of see what's up. He went to uh 2019 church down in Atlanta, and he he got there, he's like, I feel weird, because there's no church starts uh their Sunday service starts at one in the afternoon, yeah, or two in the afternoon. He's like, I feel weird that we're here two hours early, and there's a line for me at the church, and he was like, It almost feels like we're waiting in line for like a concert or whatever. Yeah, but then he gets inside and he's like, church the service ain't even started,

Megachurch Myths Money And Logistics

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and people got their Bibles out, people are praying over people, yeah. And he's like, and then another thing that churches are or mega churches are uh people feel weird about is money. He was and he was talking about not one point did they did they talk about money, did they talk about tithing, yeah, did they even have anything like on the screen that said, Hey, you can give here or whatever. They said there's nothing about it. So I I love and I appreciate churches that have uh those large platforms and those big followings really doing their best to show what real Christianity looks like, what what uh real love and and Christian love looks like. Yeah, because at a bigger scale, it's hard to do those things. It's hard to it's hard to not talk about money, it's hard to service all those people coming in and try to do it in a timely fashion because you've got those that are wanting to get in and those that are wanting to leave. So being able to to even do something as simple as get people in the building is something that could get wonky and weird, and how do we get them in without, you know, we we want them to be a part of it, but we have no room and all that. So that that would be a hard thing at a larger scale on how do we how do we conduct and and do this. I know some churches they have like overflow room. Right. And you're you're just watching the guy on a screen in a different room in the church, and it's I get what they're doing. It's it's better to have that than nothing than have to turn people away, you know. But it it that's gotta be a whole nother list of problems on trying to figure out logistics, you know, behind just getting people into the room. Yeah, right. You know, so um, yeah, like you said, it's it's just you see you see an appreciation for for stuff like that when they try to make it as normal as possible. It's like I couldn't imagine having a church that like celebrities went to. You have a bunch of normal people, and this like how do you maintain that? Yeah, because how do you get how do you give them a normal experience of the everyday church goer when they're these huge stars and everybody's looking at them and all this? So that's you know, a lot of places they get they get kind of bombarded when they have like via the VIP section for those people, but it's like I I I do understand they they can't walk in the front door like everyone else. Like they're getting they're getting pictures and everybody's trying to attack them. You have to figure out a way to try to make them feel normal, you know. But but then you go so far and then those are the special ones that they get a certain room. And I'm sure I'm sure there's uh I'm sure there's places that like after some time that's that's normal now. It's it like it's be it like um um the pastor for uh Generation Church where Preston used to be uh an associate pastor, yeah. He'll tell me Steve O comes to their church and it's like a normal thing. Like he comes to their men's group sometimes. Yeah, and it's just a normal thing now. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, and and it just it's just that's one thing I do love is seeing all these celebrities that are really not the ones that are proclaiming Jesus just to say it because it's the fad now, but those that are actually doing it, like behind the scenes you find out like these guys are going to church, they're going to Bible study, they're doing these things is really cool to see. I saw on YouTube that Russell Brand and his wife now do their own church services. Yeah. Like just them two. Yeah. They they I haven't watched any, so I don't know what his actual theology sounds like. Yeah. But he's he's a weird guy. Yeah. In just normal, yeah. Like he's just a weird character. Uh, so it would it would be interesting to see him stripped away of all the all the fame, yeah, you know, all the all the stuff. Yeah. And just to kind of kind of talk to him on a regular basis and say, hey, what is what is your thoughts? What are your what is your theology? Because he's been he's been hammered, man. Yes, because he's he's changed his life in the public eye. I feel like and I feel like a lot of people uh like like him go back and what people should do is go back to the basics of the gospel, what it actually is. It's not a bunch of rules, it's not a bunch of traditions, it's far from it. It's it is simply we believe in a man, we believe in a God that sent himself down in the form of his son and in the flesh of human uh to die for us to pay the penalty of our sins so that we may in our next life dwell in heaven with him. Keep it

Keep The Gospel Simple Lead With Love

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simple. And and that's another thing that a lot of uh kind of like I mentioned before, a lot of people don't come to church because like they don't have a suit or something. A lot of people see the the Bible as a is a rule book. Right. Yeah, instead of a guide book. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so just tr just try to be human. Let's start there. Just just meet people where they're at. Be a kind person. Right. Let's start there. It's it's you know, it let's let's not make things more complicated than they need to be. Let's not act like we're better than we are. Let's just be a human being and meet people where they're at. Let's start there. Not be weird. Yeah, that would be good. I was like, I was telling uh you and the the young adults. class uh you know that that uh female evangelist that came to uh the CMO campus but just you know screaming uh scripture at people telling them you know if you're gay you're going to hell and all that the uh I think the chairman of the river campus a very liberal very openly gay man showed more love to her and to the people around him more than that quote unquote Christian did. Yeah and even even if you're screaming the truth you're still not doing any good. Right. Well you do it without love your right your noise. Right you know well it's like think of think of it like this because I've seen it before um people just messing with their dogs they'll say like you know something like oh you're like the cutest dog in the world but they say it in a tone that makes them feel like they're in trouble. Yeah yeah you can say whatever you want right right but the way you deliver it is is how someone's what how however that is right that's how someone's going to going to take it. If you are yelling at them they're gonna think they're in trouble or that you think they're wrong or or something. It's a negative message. Yeah no matter what it is if it's being delivered that way. Yep yep yep yep so for our our next I want to do something a little bit different. I'm trying to remember the yeah different different I'm trying to think of the the word for it um oh my gosh what is it called when you have like a little oh I remember okay hold up one second all right all right all right all right let's see here's Matthew McConaughey what can we do for you all right we haven't done that's what's up in a long time we haven't we're gonna do that next episode okay okay so this episode is going to be guessing the jingle oh snow okay I beg your pardon guessing the jingle

Guess The Jingle Game And Nostalgia

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do you know what a jingle is like the thing you make the bells with it wait what's it sound like wait the first one sounded like a bell the second one sounded like a phone ringing hold up what what'd it sound like it sounded like with the bell you said pull it out your pocket you gotta go now it's a different phone I was about to say it's a road I almost called it a circular phone so so a 26 folks wait 29le same thing kind of like if like a jingle for McDonald's is I'm loving it. There you go it's a it's a sub it's a slogan a a line a yes okay so it's gonna be the first one to say the correct answer gets the point and keep up with how many points you got so I don't get to be in it. I'll start at five okay no no okay you ready this one y'all should get before T. I'm gonna take my team microphones off. I don't want to grow up Toys R Us Toys R Us Wait he said Jack in the box in the box no matter what it was he'd have said jack in the box no matter what I'm not gonna lie I thought you were gonna like play the sound that's why that's what I thought we were doing I thought we were gonna do just restaurants for this and the best part of waking up Folgers Oh I was raised my hand that was me raising my hand raised his hand ooh teacher teacher sorry where's my buzzer buzzer is hilarious. I'm up to stupid give me a break kick at Kit Kat has a has a jingle yeah give me a break give me a break break me off a piece of that kick cat bar seen the off y'all seen the office where uh it's everything reminds him of the office episode where Ed Helm's character is break me off a piece of that's funny he was saying like NASCAR thing I don't know and we'll we'll do this instead of doing that we'll go we'll start going around the room so you still got two so we'll go around the room to give so if you get it right you know then then we'll go around so we'll go to Zeke we're just buzzard we'll go well we want to give Zeke a chance to try to get some of them because y'all are yeah all right you ready Zeke is gonna be you have to get not you don't finish the the lyric but you guess what it's from yeah okay McDonald's there you go Zeke's got one okay was an easy one all right Richard you think every restaurant needs Tyler My Bologna has a first name is it Oscar Meyer Wiener It's not Oscar Meyer Wiener it's Oscar Meyer Bologna It's Mr. Meyer first name Oscar leave him alone meow meow meow meow meow meow meows yeah there you go dang all right Zeke I want my baby back oh snap I know this one that's a tough one for you that's an old yeah they haven't done that in years I want my baby back baby back baby back baby back ribs dun dun barbecue sauce baby back ribs um um I don't know five four three baby diapers two wow one chili that is correct write that down correct correct correct all right we are on Richard well that's still Tyler's turn no okay nope nope nope sucks to be you okay Richard you ready yeah sometimes you feel like a nut I'll enjoy yeah nice nice nice all right uh let's see okay Zeke have it your way Burger King yeah there you go that's a good one he knows the king man right uh have it in a way ooh I don't know if Tyler get this one but we're gonna try it's kind of easy but for younger you may not get it okay chia oh chia pet oh he does remember chia pet okay good everybody knows Chia Pet yep okay good job uh that was like an early 2000s like I'm sure it came out in the 90s oh this one's a this one's a little bit of a tough one well of course it is I'm just going down a list okay the snack that smiles back goldfish oh good that's an easy one they still do that I didn't know I didn't know that you disappoint me why was it goof there? This uh I'm gonna I'm gonna save this one for Tyler so I'm gonna go a little bit okay all right Zeke you ready this one's gonna be a little bit hard well this one's hard too okay every kiss begins with K. Oh gosh um isn't it those um Hershey kisses nope dang it no big kiss though no you're way off you could not be farther off all right Tyler I'm not giving you that one it I got another one it was K jewelry though I have no idea what that was all right Tyler I'm a big kid now I'm a big kid now oh isn't that um I've heard diaper right wait no no no no I'm a big kid now is it Huggies yes good job you've got it I was like you better know this is diapers you better know this one I don't think they use that though anymore no probably not at least I don't I don't remember all right uh Richard yo that's for what would you do for a Kit Kat Bar Klondike bar good job good job all right Zeke you better get this one Liberty Liberty Liberty um state uh whatever it's called what whatever it's called I didn't know you could answer like that whatever it's called whatever it is doesn't it start with an M State mutual or whatever you're close should we give it to him no no stop with the nepotism I asked y'all if we should give it to him you're close it's not even close yeah it is he's close he's got half of it he's got half of it Liberty Mutual I was like man he's about to big his clue all right Tyler they're magically delicious that's easy they're magically delicious um he has to sing it to himself to get it oh lucky charms okay yeah I was like man he may not get this one oh man I'm not big serious um five all right Richard they're the fresh maker oh that's tough mentos yeah good job I don't even remember any mentos commercials oh dude they had the best commercials I haven't had a mentos in so long they're good all right uh diarrhea upset stomach oh gosh uh I can't remember how something diarrhea upset stomach nausea something I don't know Taco Bell Wow you'll need this after Taco Bell it's partnership that one that one's a tough one because I couldn't remember I'll give you a different one because I couldn't remember the that was Pepto okay like a good neighbor stay for him there you go okay five five dollar I was like is that it's five dollar but he is so fun right let's see six all right Richard I Richard will know I know he's gonna know this it's the S. Sketchers baby that's right yeah I'm wearing them right now he keeps sketchers I just bought my new pair of sketchers right back oh that is so fun so let me see I may be able to do some sound ones eight so we're gonna do a couple more a coup a c a couple more maybe I gotta find a where'd the rest of mine go from five I was thinking the song five and Tyler's like five what is there's no background music so it was like was that it was there was there was there a part of the thing wait for the meat to drop right let's see let's see no maybe not what's the score so far I got eight I think I got three's got six Zeke you're holding strong there let me see if I can get something like hold up on like actual sounds up hold up hold up hold up hold up Richard yeah I've got I'm held up thank you I've got um I've got some trivia me and Zeke was was looking at doing some trivia the other day 100 questions okay so this is like the 100 questions every 90s kid should know oh

Trivia Tangent Final Laughs And Wrap

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yeah yeah let's get started okay so first question which purple dinosaur started a Barney Barney dinosaur started your turn actually I think it was your turn no I don't know where were I got it we'll we'll count it so Zeke yeah so which which popular dinosaur let me let me see if I can pull the actual just uh that young now 13 with the mustache one and some goat tea that's growing back oh my gosh and a gold chain that looks tough that's not the word I was gonna go for I got your sentence I got your sentence all right well ladies and gentlemen Richard is the winner of this I'm sorry nepotism somebody I'm not his nepha oh what I don't know what is happening right now this was rigged I hate losing I hate losing yeah yeah yeah why are jingles so they just really get stuck in your head and I know that's the point that is the point that's that's the point of why they do it because they're catchy they're catchy yep but yeah yeah it's remember Rob Deerdack did the jingles he was trying to make jingles Rob Deerdick is one of the most cringy people he's so funny he's a different one have y'all seen the Drake and KD commercial I don't watch commercials I was about to say who who watches commercials Tyler does because he won't pay for the ad-free he knows this because he has my peacock I was about to say that I was about to say that like remember he said that the other day he's like yeah I use Tyler's peacock yeah he's got commercials call him up hey bro you need to upgrade come on man pay that extra amount dude you're not even paying for this give me an extra five bucks and we'll upgrade oh that's funny give me five bucks a month we'll upgrade yeah yeah oh man I love y'all you back but man y'all are weird