Spiritual Awakening in Times of Stress: Reconnecting with Authenticity and Heart Energy

What does it take to reconnect with our heart energies and rediscover our authenticity? In a world where safety and approval often govern our actions, how can we return to our true selves? These are some of the intriguing questions we grapple with in this enlightening discussion with Dr. Madalina Petrescu and Cris Agafi. Both Madalina and Cris share their personal journeys into spiritual awakening and how a crisis can often serve as a portal to one's desire to heal.

In this current era, where COVID-19 has disrupted lives and heightened stress levels, we delve into the importance of healing and self-realization. Myocarditis and pericarditis, we find, are the physiological reflections of this collective stress. However, we also discuss the incredible resilience of the human spirit and how even small shifts in perspective can have a profound impact on our lives. 

We explore the healing power of the heart and how it can be harnessed to propel us forward in life. We reflect on the fact that crises, such as the COVID-19 pandemic, can indeed shift people's thresholds, igniting a desire to reconnect with our authentic selves. Together with our esteemed guests, we encourage listeners to embrace the vitality of life, acknowledging the pain but also recognizing the immense potential for growth and transformation that lies within each one of us. 

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Transcript

Because so many people are living, I feel completely disconnected from their vitality. They're just living from this, you know, default of stress. And you can almost feel that, you know, the lights are on like, here we are, our lights are on, we are so activated because we're so connected to so many people are just, the lights are not on. They're living and it's like living but not alive. They're existing, but not alive. And so, for me, it's like my greatest joy to just support the turning on of that light. 

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Whether you are a seasoned spiritual seeker, or just starting out on your spiritual path, this podcast has something for everyone. The mission is to inspire enthusiasm for the spiritual part of your journey through unique perspectives around mind, body and spirit. Join me and other enthusiastic souls as we share weekly episodes of how amazing life is when you embrace the spiritual parts of your journey. This and all episodes can be found on my website, TNT spirit works.com. And if you would like to watch the episodes, please check out TNT Spirit works YouTube channel. So grab your favorite drink, sit back and relax because another enthusiastic episode starts now. Welcome back to another episode of enthusiastically spiritual. I'm your host Teresa. Well, this episode is filled with connecting with your heart energies, healing your heart energies, and a dynamic teamwork that's going to be sharing with you some amazing aspects around heart things. So I'm so passionate about this because I am a Leo son and I have a lot of heart things that are constantly going on with me. So without much ado, let me welcome Dr. Madalina Petrescu and Chris Guffey. 

01:47 

Thank you so much, Teresa. It's really wonderful to be here. We're super excited. Yeah, thank you. 

01:54 

Yeah, welcome. Welcome. And the beautiful light is shining it on you both. So this is a really, this is a spirit led enthusiastic episode for sure. We're definitely

02:03 

getting blessed. Yes, exactly. And the light came on just now. So it's really, really going to be powerful. 

02:08 

Oh, I love it. So first, let's start with a little bit about I'd like you both to share individually, share who you are your journey to where you are at now. And what do you do in the world to support people? Wonderful, 

02:20 

well, I can start. So we basically so I work as a cardiologist, and about up until about 10 years ago, I was functioning and operating in the world as a regular just a cardiologist had no awareness of consciousness, energy, spirituality, none of that I was just really on that rat race, kind of like, you know, just trying to survive trying to make it, you know, doing my best to climb up the ladder of success, you know, with, you know, cardiology is a very difficult field, you know, there's a lot of emergencies, it's really busy Colbert and life and death situations. And then what happened to me is that the way that I was living my life, it was really like in a state of survival. And so I didn't realize that I was operating from all kinds of patterns and kind of operating in this, you know, unconscious and default way of being and I used to go running as a way to keep going. And then eventually, what ended up happening is I had a crisis, I ended up having severe back pain, I literally could not even walk so like, it's almost like life brought me to a stop because I was running and I was not pausing and stopping and being and I was just like a human doing. And then that pain really progressed to like, all kinds of pains, all kinds of problems. And it evolved into a existential crisis, not just from a pain crisis, existential crisis, like what really am I doing here? Like I'm healing people's hearts, am I really doing that? Am I really living on purpose, what's really the meat all these questions are like where I had never really addressed. And from there, I started my own personal journey into back into my heart because I had realized that I was not living in my heart, I was living from the unconscious, I was living from, you know, psychological programming and totally disconnected from my heart, which is why the crisis happened to really bring me back into the journey of my heart. And that's where it all started, we joined together and all these you know, beautiful ways, beautiful journeys, that basically brought us back. And through these journeys, we got all kinds of certifications and energy healing and meditation and really brought me personally back to a deeper calling into my purpose, which is a deeper healing of the human beings that I'm really here to serve, you know, really connected me to my purpose. So I basically that's really where I'm coming from is like the deeper healing that people are really meeting by reconnecting to their own light to their own superpower to their own gifts to their own purpose so they can be alive and really living on purpose. And, and so I do this, you know, we do this in a program called Heart Q, heart consciousness, heart intelligence and And I also I also am a cardiologist. So I bring this even when patients come in that whatever it is, it's happening. It's a callback, and invitation back to the heart. So I kind of combined spirituality and medicine together. And this is where I'm at. And this is what my passion is. So I'm excited to be here and share more of this.

05:20 

I can feel you. You can feel my heart. Yeah. 

05:25 

You know, it's funny, I've heard, obviously, I know your story, and I've heard your stories, you're sharing your story so many times, and every time it's still feel so powerful, and so fresh, and so moving? You know, 

05:40 

that's what I feel. Yes. 

05:44 

So, about me, you know, I always have this way that my, my book, so to speak, is split into chapters. So far. One has a chapter before this awakening, so to speak, right? And the one after the chapter after the awakening. And, you know, the chapter before that my awakening, in a nutshell. You know, I, I lived as I grew up with my parents, with my father being a diplomat, so I got to travel with him wherever he went. But, you know, until the age of about 1819, I lived in a very structured environment, right? Because the world of diplomacy is very much structured. A lot of protocols, you have to behave this way, you have to speak in a specific way. And that was my life since I was three years old. You know, my dad would always say, you know, you'll be careful what you say, because, or at what you do how you behave, because you will reflect on the country. So for me, as a three year old, imagine that was a bit confusing or overwhelming. But so anyway, but that was basically my, my, my, my life for about 20 years of my life. And it was a beautiful life, but it also came with its own. I don't know, dark side, I suppose. Which was that I learned to not speak up authentically, not to be authentic, not to be myself to always think and wonder, how do others want me to show up and then put on that mask so that I can be accepted and loved and, you know, so then, of course, you know, we met and we were in, you know, it was a match made in pattern heaven, as I love to say, because we both came with our own patterns at that time. And then like Marina mentioned, about 10 years ago, she went through her, this event that really put her on this path. And, you know, for about a year or so, I thought, okay, life continues, you know, just just just as it was until up until that point. But after some time, I started realizing like, something's different than her, you know, something is changing in a very positive way. So I started wondering, okay, hey, what are you? I mean, I know what books you're reading, I know, kind of like the things you're doing. But the impact is tremendous. So what are you doing so she left, she led me into her world. She invited me into her world to and I got to see a different perspective. And, you know, by that time, I was literally living with a with a conscious woman. And as you know, it's as a man, it's hard. It's challenging to live with a conscious one, if you are not conscious yourself, because as I like to say, there is no place to hide, you know. And so, so that was my own awakening, you know, it was her invitation into this world of consciousness, spirituality. And that put me on my own path to

where I am today. And where I am today is I'm a co founder with Magdalena of heart Q. And I do primarily focus on coaching, I coach, primarily men, but of course, anyone who, who needs and who desires a transformation in their life. Yeah, and this is what we're doing today. 

09:16 

I'm filled with happiness. Because you guys I don't know if you know, I mean, I have a soulmate partner, Tom, too, and we do our spiritual work together. So to meet another passionate heart centered, open couple is so amazing. And I mean, I can't tell you and also one that works with men. Because Chris, I can't tell you how many places we go to our events and you know, I have a partner and the man comes up and I want to work with someone so like, it's it's needed so much and also the complementary of the masculine and the feminine coming together in both of you. I mean, how amazing so, oh, let's see where do we go with this because this is really big. I'm so excited but I guess I want to tap into a little bit on The cardiologist aspect because you're going into the physical body. And then the energy as you're opening, the physical body is so huge, right? The aura that you know, the energy field, and then tapping into them energetically as to how to heal on all levels. How have you found to work with that, because I'm assuming as a team, you can do it beautifully together. But that's really unique as far as going into the body and then outward with the energy would love a little bit of insights on that. 

10:30 

Yes, it's actually really, for me, it's an amazing experience. Because, you know, having been in both worlds, you know, cardiology, I've been in this profession for like, 25 years. And you know, I have all these specialties, so like medicine, and then have you been in the spiritual realm in so many ways, and like 10 years. So then for me, it's like, just part of who I am. So when I go and I see patients, you know, I kind of like use a heartbreak technique, Michael coherence techniques, so then I tune into the people's energy. So when I walk in, I just let my heart guide me I can feel so the way that how the way things happen is that there's a physical, and that physical thing, whatever it is, is in some way, the heart inviting that person back to themselves. It's some way of like, it's a calling back to themselves, it's a calling back to their heart. And, and then the hardest sending a message. And there's actually really incredible energetic and physical alignment that can happen. For instance, when I see a someone that just, for instance, just recently, I saw a patient, and she was having severe chest pain, and, you know, the, the everything was consistent with a possible heart attack. So she went in, and there were changes that had a possible heart attack, a possible blockage, but the blockage was not significant, but she was still having chest pain. So then then I was feeling into her, I was like, Well, what's going on that's blocking circulation, which is a circulation of love back into you what's going on, that could be in some way or another where you are now receiving the aliveness of love, you know, so then I feel into people based on where they're at energetically and what they're ready, I meet them at their level. And then I ask certain questions, I can open them up so they can receive their own messages. And like this particular patient, for instance, you know, she broke down, realizing, wow, I have denied my heart, I have denied myself, I have been there for everyone, and, and done everything, and gone out left my heart left myself just trying to be there to please everyone. And now I'm feeling abandoned, I have abandoned myself, I have blocked the flow of my own love, hence, the blockage that's found in the heart. So there's, I have found that it's almost like a psychic reading, I see a patient I address the physical Of course, like, I'm not going to be like, meditate, you know, I fit, I would take care of that. And we

go deeper. Because it's not just about fixing, it's about healing, it's about what else is your heart inviting you into. So you can be more of yourself. So you can receive more of yourself and reconnect to that flow that wants to enter you that you can go back into the vitality of life, because so many people are living, I feel completely disconnected from the vitality, they're just living from this, you know, default of stress. And you can almost feel that, you know, the lights are on like, here we are, our lights are on we are so activated because we're so connected to us. So many people are just, the lights are not on, they're living and it's like living but not alive. They're existing, but not alive. And so, for me, it's like my greatest joy to just support the turning on of that light. Just even whatever it is that can ignite something, ignite them back to their own life. 

13:47 

So it's interesting because for you being a doctor and cardiologists that they come to you for a heart, like my heart is something going on physically. But then Chris, they come to you for an energetic disconnect, you know, what's going on with me? Who am I? So share a little bit about that and how people come to you Chris, because it's interesting, because it is definitely, I mean, they'll come to both you with the heart cue, right. But I would love for you to Chris to share how they come to you for that energy for that healing that you share with them. Yeah. 

14:14 

You know, it's, it's true, it's very different. Because I do not work on the heart as the way that you do. For me, for you know, my clients is usually the common denominator some form of being disconnected with themselves and being disconnected with their heart, their their authentic heart, their authentic selves, right. As Thoreau would say, you know, men tend to live lives of silent desperation, especially as men we have learned somehow to society and our upbringing to hold it in, to keep it in. Because that's what's loving. That's what's tough. That's what demanded are asked have us right. And, and the thing is that men are also and on speak, I'm referring to men specifically because men tend to experience this more than I found in women, because women are also very, a lot more expressive, a lot more expressive than men. So, yeah, as men, you know, they, we tend to hold things in. And that also has an effect on the body itself. Right. And that's how, you know, you'll get some of your patients that come with these symptoms. But it all starts from their way of living life. Right? So when I coach someone, I take them through, you know, I guess, like a three step process, like, you know, it's very intuitive, I have to feel into the person that I'm working with, because every person is different, everyone has their own story, and everyone got to where they are in their own way. But But everyone has the same journey back into their heart, to some extent, in the sense that, first of all, we need to bring that awareness. Like okay, what what have you who have you been conditioned to be by you're not, right, so we unpack that we, we go into the patterns and all the experiences that brought you to where you are today, then the second stage would be okay, now that you know who you're not, okay, you know, the condition side that you the self of you that you're not? Now let's discover, who are you really like? What, what Who are you at the core at the essence, right? What are your core values? What is your top core value? The one that drives everything in your life? Right? And what are your desires, your dreams are unfulfilled ones that you that still, you know, they always nudge you, right? So we look at that aspect, let's find out who you are. And then now that you know, now that you know who you're not, and now you know who you are. What are you gonna create in your life? Right? In your

relationships? How are you going to show up to your to your partner, to your kids, to your your business, to your community? Right? What are you going to put out into the world, but from a more authentic place? So that's, that's my work with men. 

17:09 

Beautifully said. And so what I hear you both saying is there's a disconnect, there's a disconnect from the heart that can affect us physically, that can affect us emotionally, mentally, in our whole entire being. So what do you believe is the number one cause that disconnects us from our heart? Either one can, 

17:27 

yeah, so I feel like my, in my experience, it's that when we show up into this world, you know, as children, we are the most connected, you know, we are showing up totally authentic, expressive, limitless magic, you know, all feeling all of ourselves, you know, completely authentic. And then at some level, depending on each person, you know, stuff happens, that makes us believe that it's not safe to be yourself, something happens, some experience happens. And that's when there's this shift from the heart to the brain to be safe. And you know, there's a shift of like, well, I'm going to do what's safe, I'm going to put on this mask, because then my caregiver, mom, dad, whatever society is then going to love me. So instead of, there's a shift of that happens in early childhood, from, I'm going to be all of me and express all of who I am to the world. It's an expression of love. And there's a shift to i, there's an absence, illusion of the absence of love. So then let me do all of these things. So then I can get that love. So there's a there's an exchange of authenticity, for the desire to be loved, to be approved, to feel enough to be worthy, you know, but it's, there's, this is where the shift happens, because up here will never feel it, no matter like the ego. It's like the endless seeking and striving, but you never get there. It will, it's an illusion, you think you'll get there, but you'll never get there. You know. So that's when I feel I think that this is something that happens in all humanity, depending on the upbringing, you know, some people that happens earlier, depending on who starts planting that seed, you know, I think this is something that happens. Unless, unless you're born in some different planet or some the Woods by you know, raised by like heart centered beings, this is what happens and nobody's fault. It's like, it's not like there's any blame here because it's just transferred from the generational lineage, you know, so whoever at some point, there's an awakening there was like, oh, what? Like, oh, wait, this is not real. I, I thought I was living in a reality. But this is actually not real. This is a false matrix. Oh, wait, the aliveness is right here in this being in this presence in this in the heart in the energy where the connection is available to all of us. And so, the awakening happens for whatever, however way it happens for any person. And that's when the past starts. And that's when we all start reconnecting to you know, our purpose, our vitality, who we really are. And in our heart is where we experience who we are in our heart is where we connected energetically you know, we are not formed we are energy. And so this is The way that I see it and how that disconnection happened, I feel it's the plague. I think if you were to trace back even all the diseases and all the problems and all the, all the conditions of depression, anxiety, obesity, like all of it, if you were to trace it back all the way, it's really, this. It's really this separation from the heart, needing for safety and operating from that disconnection. And then the alignment then happens, you know, that's a journey. And it's not like you're now there forever. It's not like now we're living from our heart all the time. To us, we call it returning to the heart. It's like,

every, every opportunity is like, oh, okay, I left myself. Oh, there. Okay. I'm returning now I returned to my heart. So it's like, the journey of how can I return back to the heart? And there's endless way to do that. That's my take. That's my, yeah, 

20:48 

it's so true. Because a lot of times, you know, we always say, to, we try to get to people to get people to live from a heart centered life, right to live from their heart. This is where the transformation, the true transformation happens. And a lot of times, people are like, How can I do that? I mean, it's easy for you guys, because you know, your heart, you coaches, and this is what you guys do all the time. But, you know, I can't live in my heart all the time. And we always remind people, it's not about living in your heart all the time or coming from your heart all the time. It's about always returning. It's what we call heart resilience. Right? It's, it's, it's coming back when you feel like Oh, whoops, I oops, I fell off the wagon, so to speak, right? It's okay. No problem, no judgment, just compassion. Get back on, come back to yourself. You know, and the truth is that it's not, you know, we are swimming against the current of not just decades, like, like you're saying, you know, the caretakers, and although we're swimming against the current, not just have decades of our own conditioning in this lifetime, but generational, generational because times lifetimes, right? Because, you know, we're we are driven by this evolutionary two evolutionary questions. One of them is always mi safe. Right? It's unconscious question, we always ask ourselves, Am I safe? And if we're not aware of this question, we're going to behave in a way that is not the in the best way for our own authenticity. But at least it answers that question. Yes, I'm safe. If I say yes to everyone. I'll be safe. Right? I'll be okay. The second one is, Do I belong? Am I safe? And do I belong? Because of course, if I belong to a social group, I belong, I belong, I am loved by my family, by my co workers, by my you know, community, then I'm safe. Right? So it's this, it goes back generations. And you know, we always say, awakening may happen in a moment, something happens, and it just you get the awakening. But the deconditioning process is a lifetime process. Yeah. 

23:03 

That onion thing, right? Yeah. Okay, you could take off this layer, but Oh, dang. Below us is another 20 layers. And like you said, I totally agree with it's the family. It's the generations, it's a lifetimes, it's, you know, I mean, it goes on and on and on. So we've obviously come through a really large shift right now, from the 2020 on. And there's been a lot of things that people have had to experience and go through. So I want to ask a couple questions around this. First question I want to ask is, as people come into you and clients working with you have you noticed that more people are shifting from their heart or trying to access that from because I mean, there's a lot of right now, anxiety, we see a lot of, you know, people really acting out and all kinds of ways. And so I know people are hurting in different ways, too. So that's the first question is in regards to clients and what you're noticing energetically with others? Has there been a shift since 2020? Yeah, 

24:01 

personally, I really have noticed that there's a kind of an increase of crisis and increase of anxiety crisis, depression crisis, loneliness crisis, I think this whole COVID experience has

anxiety crisis, depression crisis, loneliness crisis, I think this whole COVID experience has brought up it's not like COVID as a reason, it's more like COVID just uncovered, what was their kind of like, their hidden you know, from our conscious awareness. And now it's like out there, the loneliness, the depression, the not being seen the disconnection all of that. So I think that's been brought up and people are wanting, they want to do something about it, because you can either numb it, you can't really like but when you start to really feel it or realizing that the real medicine you can't use alcohol is not going to be shopping it's not going to be it foods not going to be it because it's just not enough. You need to go to the real medicine. And I think people I'm noticing and people like they they're wanting, they have a desire so this is how I see it, like crisis is a portal crisis is serving as a portal like when you hit low enough and hard enough It's like that's in your head. Now the only way is up now. It's like I have that desire and and that's what happened to me. You know, I was like solo, I was like, so uncomfortable feeling all the feelings that I had avoided feeling. And that became the portal to my hunger to want to heal. Because if we don't want to do it, I can't make other people want to feel like you have to personally have a desire or motivation or reason. Like, so when like, that's why pain can be a motivator, gosh, I feel horrible how I feel, I want something I want to feel better. And that's where I'm noticing that people are shifting, they're wanting something they want to go deeper. They want the real medicine. This is what I'm this is why I've noticed. Yeah, no, 

25:41 

it's so true. And, you know, we, you know, we always say that people are going to experience whatever they tolerate. Okay, if they're tolerate and depends, everybody has a different threshold. Okay. But we know we talk about the midlife crisis, the truth is that we all have many midlife crisis, right? All all through our life, it's just that our threshold is not where it needs to be. So that we make a change, we just say, Oh, it's okay, oh, I can I can overcome this, you know, but covered and 2020. And everything that happened since really changed people thresholds really brought them like, like, you're saying to a, to a rock bottom, you know, because if you don't hit rock bottom, your own rock, bottom, right, whatever that is for you, you just gonna keep sinking. And you're gonna go down and down and down. But, you know, I always use this, I'm visual. So I always use this metaphor that, you know, when you reach rock bottom in your life, there's nowhere else to go, right. So all you got to do is just kind of like, you know, go down on your knees, almost like crouched down, and then all then all, the only thing to do is to spring back up, right? And I did notice that people come now with a, not just like, oh, I can't take it anymore. But more like, also with, something's got to change, like, I believe there's a there is a sense that there is something else as possible. And that is huge. Because, you know, anything is possible for anyone, as long as they believe it's possible for them. If you don't believe it's possible for you, I can look at someone that, you know, makes a billion dollars, I can say, oh, my god, that's amazing. That person can do it. But if I don't believe it's possible for me, then I'm not going to achieve my my desired goal. But I'm noticing that people are actually not just hungry, but like you, like you said, but they believe that a transformation is possible. And it doesn't have to be a huge all you all you do, all you need is like a one degree crack in their consciousness to say, hmm, maybe just maybe this is possible for me. And that's where we enter and, you know, we, we open, we open them, we open their crack their hearts open, so to speak, metaphorically. 

27:56 

So what I hear you both saying is it all starts with the person, it all started home, like they have to want it, they have to desire it, they have to have been broken open. And also working with

to want it, they have to desire it, they have to have been broken open. And also working with the heart. And I'm thinking before COVID You know, there's so much you know, heart attacks, heart issues, heart pain. And then now that we've gone through this, there's things like myocarditis and pericarditis and the inflammation around the heart. And so that and it's prevalent and people are, you know, having lots of issues with it, if they even make it through it, right? Because it's I mean, it can be something that well, I'll tell you this, I have a friend who's I'm almost 55 a friend who's my age who just wrote on Facebook recently that I had last year I was diagnosed with congestive heart failure. Like what are you kidding me? Like that's something I when I think of congestive heart failure, I think of like my grandmother who's 8995 It's like the last part of like, your heart is given out and it's filled up and whatever. Right. So and I don't know, obviously, the medical terms I'm just saying filled up and stuff, but I'm filled up with fluids. But so what have you guys noticed with this coming up, you know, with with myocarditis and pericarditis so prevalent, you know, physically as well as energetically, what is that? Have you tuned into? Or have you noticed what's going on in this in this app at you know, essence right now? And the energy? Yeah, 

29:18 

I feel that especially recently with COVID to, again, whatever has been hiding is now being brought over open. Because that's why when things don't feel good, nobody wants to feel it, because it's like, Oh, it doesn't feel good. So it's so much better to put a lid on it. And just keep going, you know, take some medication and not feel it and have a little alcohol. So like now this basically COVID collective humanity COVID raised that lid up, and it's like, sorry, guys, humanity, you gotta feel this. You got to do it. You can't go to the you can't transform. You can't get into where we want to feel without feeling that pain without seeing what's there and becoming aware. So Here's the thing when it comes to myocarditis, myocarditis, and is an inflammation of the heart muscle, and pericarditis is inflammation around the heart. So the bottom line is, it is all caused by inflammation. Inflammation is a state of stress. I think what it's happening, it's a reflection of the heart of humanity, it's reflecting that there is a state of stress that people are living in, that's become normalized, you know, the elder ancestors, you know, you have a bear, you get your stress hormones up, and you take care of him, you go back to normal, but here we have this chronic stress, this mental stress or the thoughts we're having, that are hurting us, the emotional stress, our emotional reactivity, when we're just reacting and reacting, physical stress, the way that we're not loving our body, and all the, you know, unhealthy habits, all of that is creating a chronic state of stress. And this is what's happening. There's a condition called stress. cardiomyopathy can happen in any age. So there's enough stress going on, it can be from a phone call, it can be from some fight with your spouse, it can be from I fell on the floor. And that can create so much stress, that it actually stops the functioning of the heart muscle and heart muscle, which is a muscle doesn't work anymore. I mean, it's basically in a way, the, you know, our heart is asking us, you gotta stop hurting me, you got to stop the inflammation. And the inflammation is coming from living from this default of stress. And so to me, it's like the invitation, you got to live back into your heart, come back into love. Because at the end of the day, the reason people are living in stress is the the illusion of lack of love. And they're doing all these things because of lack illusion of, I am not love as I am, I am not worthy as I am. So I'm going to do all these things go above and beyond to like, get that from whatever you know, and so people are not living in this alignment. So the medicine is love. The medicine is meet everything with love, meet yourself, as you are with love, reconnect to the truth, and start in like a Chris was saying, you know, uncover all of the things, discover who you are, and are create, create your life based on that alignment. That's what I'm seeing and feeling energetically and physically.

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Want to share? I think on that, Chris? So I don't deal directly, like Madalina does, you know, with her patients, but what I'm what I'm noticing that there is definitely a correlation, also just hearing her come home and say, Oh, this patient had this heart condition. And then you know, she has her way of exploring going deeper into the patient's life and, and asking the probing, probing those questions. And there's always a correlation between the condition of the heart and their life, right? So the way that I'm experiencing that more energetically is that clients that come it's almost like their life is in a state of inflammation. Right, they get to this place of, I can't take any more, something's got to give, because otherwise it's going to explore or implode. Right? And it's that sense, is that sense, because this is the way that they experience it. And this is also what they're going to keep creating, because this is the lens through which they view things. So for me, it's more tuning into that and saying, seeing where is that state of inflammation in your life, right? And what what is your responsibility, where you can step into your own life, and start relieving some of that, because, you know, like, well, we always say this. Even in a medical world, I've shouldn't say my medical conditions, but in your life, it's not a medicine that you take to make you your life better. It's not a pill. It's not alcohol, it's not drugs, it's not any of that. You are the medicine, the medicine is you you are your heart, everything comes from inside of you. It is amazing how you just shift your perspective, even by one degree just just a little bit. And everything changes because there is a it's an energy. It's like, dropping an energetic dropping a pebble in an energetic lake. And this ripples all throughout your life. And you know, that usually they come back the ripples, right? And what's amazing is that they come back in ways that you could not even possibly imagine. Because our imagination, we do it with our mind. Imagine only based on previous experience. But if we do it with our heart, oh my god, anything is possible. It's vast. 

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Yeah, and I love what I love about that both of you guys is that for myself, too. It's about making it simple. It's not complex. It's just having the tools and the techniques or the support from like, we'd like both of you guys have walked your talk, you know, a cardiologist and then Chris, you've walked your talk with getting to where you're at, and so on. Understanding how to work with, you know, the not complex aspects of really tuning into your heart. So I want to talk about some of the things you guys offer because I'll tell you, I just did one of your meditations, you have a beautiful playlist of meditations. And I did the one on gratitude, and I have chills, I'm telling you this. And that means my guide is like, yeah, it was so lovely. And I was so calming, and I, so I want you to share, please, with the listeners and the viewers what, what beautiful tools you have, and ways they can connect with you on how they can work with you. So 

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beautiful. I mean, I'm gonna just jump in. Because I really love what you said, which is so true that, you know, you are the medicine, it's, you know, like, so basically all the tools, we don't, we're not making it about here, these are the tools that that's your medicine. Now, these tools are helping you to feel that you are the medicine. But it's the problem is that, you know, I, you know, Einstein said, you can't solve the problem with the same consciousness, I created it. So a

lot, I even my own journey, I would try to, like, Get out of my own mind, with my own consciousness. And I was like, No, I gotta shift, I could expand my consciousness. And that's where you need some tools, you know, to help you the tools are not the medicine, the tools are just helping you to feel yourself in your authentic self as the medicine, you know. So that's how we see it, it's really, we're just the guides, and we're not here to, we're not the they are the ones you know, that's where the power is, within each person is just, they're walking around with a superpower. And it's not act, it's just covered up and crumpled up. Because somewhere along the way they gotta program, it's not safe to trust your heart. It's not safe. And there's this inherent distrust. So it's about really kind of opening that up. So in our heart you.com We have like, we have this beautiful playlist of all kinds of meditations based on what people are needing, you know, is it stress it? Is it? What's the calling of your heart in or just different? based on the needs we have? You know, I call it there is no one way to get to the heart, or to get to yourself, there's infinite ways. And so we have something called eight portals into the heart eight for the Infinite is just eight out of the infinite possibilities, you know, so we offer people Okay, let's try different things. Everybody's different. Let's, let's try, like how can we help you to get back into your own heart, and then you can feel all of that your vitality or purpose, your truth for yourself. So that's the other program. And then we have the one called unleash your heart, which is like what Chris was saying is like the three steps of okay, what what is it that stopping me? And how can I lovingly not judging glee? How can I lovingly become aware from heart awareness? And how can I see who I thought I was that I'm not? How do I discover who I really am? And how can I create a life now from alignment from heart and like life changes? You know, it's happened to all of us here, like, how different is it? Right? So that's, and then you also, 

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all of these tools are available anytime for to anyone that goes to our website, the tool that I am most excited about, is the coaching part. Because, you know, for me as a coach, to see, I get so excited about this, because I see inside every person that sits across from me, I see the Superman or Superwoman inside of them. And and they can't see it yet. And it's to take them on this journey of like, let me put them, let me let me turn you just enough. So you can see yourself in your own mirror. That that experience for me and also for the clients that I've worked with has been so rewarding. I can't even you know, I if I could do anything, we always say this. If I had infinite amount of money, no financial issues, then I would still do this. If we had no money, I would still do this. Because the reward that we get the spiritual reward, the energetic reward that we get from experiencing people have that transformation that is so powerful, 

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where they receive themselves. Yeah, that's really the gift they receive themselves. Yeah. 

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And as healers and providers like you both are in what you're doing is that that is the aspect of what you're here to do is just mirror that back to them. And like you're saying Madalina is you know, having the support and different aspects of like, maybe someone may need to hear

meditation or, or they may need to work with both you guys as coaches because they can go deeper and really, it's meeting people where they're at and then allowing them to dive in deeper to whatever's next because I find that in my work too is that people come and they may do one session then you don't see him for a couple years or they may want to do everything and so it's really having just different variations of aspects that that they can you know, that they can go to and find you and find ways to work with you, or the meditations or whatever it is so well, this has been so lovely. I so filled with love and I just thank you Well, so much for my heart for the work you're doing in the world and I'm going to like tears, it feels so good. It's just, I mean, I'm so in awe of, again, another couple out in the world, sharing, you know, how you can come come together as a couple and really bring forth that love and that, you know, like Tom and I like backing each other. You know, like your team you're in. That's how we should all be working in the world for one another because it gosh, I can only imagine what it would be like if we did and that's the future that I hope and so many, many thanks of love to both of you guys for coming on today and sharing it's and I have everything in the show notes for all my listeners to connect and to find out how to what you're doing out in the world. 

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Thank you so much, Teresa. It's just an amazing it's been an amazing connection with you. I can feel energetically like we're just so aligned into like our foundation, our purpose and our mission. I can feel I can feel that and it's just been a pleasure delight being here with you. 

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Wherever you're at in the world listeners, I hope that you loved love, love that episode. I hope that you felt it in your heart because having Dr. Madalina Petrescu and Chris Agave on today was divine. I absolutely loved it. So a huge thanks to both of them for sharing their amazing energy, what they're doing in the world for assisting people on really finding and really and unleashing that heart energy and their divinity within them. So thank you so much for both you for coming on today. If you've not subscribed to this podcast, please make sure that you do I would love if you would leave a comment how you liked this episode or another episode you've listened to. Please feel free to feel free to share this with your friends and family. If you'd like to leave me a message or have a question for me, please also go to the show note you can go to pod inbox where you can leave that for me there and I'll be happy to get back with you. And otherwise until next week, please remember that life is too short to not be enthusiastic about your unique journey.