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You Don't Have to Believe to Be Psychic

Teresa & Tom Shantz Season 5 Episode 42

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"We're all just practicing."  Hosts Tom and Teresa explore the theme of spiritual sensitivity, discussing how individuals can possess psychic abilities without necessarily identifying as psychic. They delve into the challenges of navigating doubts and fears surrounding spirituality, emphasizing the importance of accepting others' journeys and encouraging personal growth. 

The conversation also highlights the significance of practical spirituality and inner leadership, advocating for a relaxed approach to interactions with others. 

Ultimately, they reflect on the human experience as a learning journey, embracing the idea that everyone is practicing and evolving in their spiritual paths.

  •  Many people are sensitive but don't identify as psychic.
  • Spiritual sensitivity can exist alongside religious beliefs.
  • Trusting one's intuition is crucial in spiritual interactions.
  • Relaxing with others' spiritual journeys fosters acceptance.
  • Encouraging others to find their own answers promotes growth.
  • Practical spirituality helps in everyday life.
  • There is no hierarchy in spiritual growth.
  • Leaders should help others flourish rather than dictate answers.
  • Embracing human imperfections is part of the learning process.
  • Life is about practicing for evolving in our spiritual paths.

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Welcome to another episode of enthusiastically spiritual. Teresa and I are going to share on another topic about our sensitivity. And what I wanted, what was on my mind, what I wanted to share about was how I hear many people talk about how, you know, the folks around them, they just don't believe in any of this ⁓ spiritual sensitivity or being psychic or being aware. And

I wanted to talk a bit about that, that I don't have to believe that I'm psychic to be psychic. that's a good topic, Tom. I like the theme of this episode. Very good. Well, I think this is a big one because I've met so many people in my immediate, you know, family and friends, as well as when we've gone out and done a lot of expos and fairs where

you know, people say things and my God, they're psychic and they're aware and they see and they feel and it but they would not say or tell others that they are seeing or feeling or experiencing these things. Yeah, and that's another angle, you know, or they, they'll come up with another reason, you know, they'll go, Well, I thought that out. But one of the examples I'd like to give is I'm in a country band, as you know, and the fellow that leads the band is a very sensitive person.

You know, I would say that he's high in the gift of prophecy. He just knows he's very creative and yet he's more religious. So he doesn't, he wouldn't profess that he is sensitive or he has ESP or angels or anything like that. So, ⁓ but what I notice is, ⁓ in fact, this just happened last night. I was playing a tune and I'm using a different instrument that I normally use. play drums.

And I was using some congos, which I'm kind of congas actually that I'm new to. Congas from the Congo. Yeah. And we were playing one of the songs that we were trying the congas out and I was playing a beat and I was within myself. I wasn't ⁓ fully secure with what I was playing. You I'm just learning how to play them. And he's very encouraging about me playing, you know, these these kinds of instruments and percussion instruments.

So right as I'm thinking to myself, is this beat, you know, effective? Is this an appropriate beat or pattern for me to play? He turns around and he says, Tom, that's really great what you're playing, you know, keep that up. And then he turned around again and started singing his song. And it's one of many examples I could give of working with this fellow, where he's just so sensitive.

And yet, if you asked him, he would say he's not, you know, that he doesn't, he doesn't believe in it. And ⁓ I think more or less, he would say that, you know, from from what I know of him. And I often noticed this with my dad as well. You know, my dad was very sensitive, probably first gift feeling, you know, high and picking up feeling impressions, turning thoughts into feelings, and very intellectual, though, at the same time.

and well educated and had a lot of leadership qualities. And when there would be times when I'd be working with him or talking with him, and he would just know things he would his sensitivity would be spot on. And yet if you asked him, he wouldn't he would never admit because he's very religious, that he, you know, was psychic. So

Where have I gotten to with all this? These are just a couple of examples of people that I've worked with is that I've learned to realize I know that I know, and that I respect even if someone says they don't quote, believe in it, or they've got more of a religious ⁓ point of view with regards to those things, then I go, you know, I know better. And I'm going to trust their, their intuition as well. Like it's, it's

I can, I can work with them. So you know, like my friend who works with his inner knowings that prophetic part of us, you know, I know when he says stuff, he's picking something up. You know, there's, I, you might say, I always trust a good prophetic when they're relaxed and in balance, they, they they exude that and I've learned over the years to trust or those feelings. And often the reason I trust is because I've had the same inklings. And when they come up with it, it's like,

Okay, I know I'm on ⁓ track. How do you relate to any of that? Well, how I relate to that is, I mean, the key word of relax comes to mind, because I too have been around a lot of people, like I started this conversation with, who are very aware, very open, but doubt, and are very fearful. And I'll even say the word scared. A lot of people are scared of, I know someone that has dreams that come true and...

and you know that and knowing that they know a lot of things and it really frightens them. So for myself and where I'm at in the journey at this moment is I really just stay relaxed with where other people are at and that would be a really big suggestion to those listening out there because everyone's in different places and I know for many years before I came together with Tom and you know really full on took on this work is that I would be wanting to change people.

my goodness, I want to change my family. want to change my friends. want to change. want everyone to know what I know. And I want everyone to embrace what I embrace. And that brought on a lot of, of, I want to say that hot energetic mess within me because it would just stirred me up because it's not what other people are ready to embrace or understand on the level that I am. So, and that's not saying that, you know, I'm any better than anyone else, but just I'm at a different place. And so

I really just relax with where everyone's at now and just accept it. you know, like with you and your friends and, you know, I'm being around people that are very sensitive and we'll just spout out things. You're like, my goodness, you are so sensitive. But again, like what I say to that person, wow, you're really high in prophecy. No, cause they probably don't really care about hearing that. So it's just knowing for myself and recognizing within my, you know, my realm is okay. I know how to work with that person.

Yeah, and I always find that my guidance can give me little insights as to what to say to, you know, ⁓ trust that impression, or thank you, boy, you're sensitive, you, you picked it up, right? When I needed to hear that you said the right thing to me. And that's ⁓ easy for people to digest easier, you know, so we're here to learn and grow. And we're here to back other souls and their learning and growth. You know, I love what you're talking about.

about that saving wanting everybody to know what I know, to get to you know, I'm so excited about it. I think it's a stage that a lot of us go through. But we had an experience a little earlier when we were doing another episode where, you know, I picked up an impression about what you were feeling that there was a little bit of guilt, you know, about returning some food, we shared this in the last episode. And, you know,

I realized like let Teresa discern that rather than me tell her what I picked up. Now she's paying me and we're working at it. can give her some hints, but the key of working with people spiritually for all you spiritual leaders out there is help them get their own answers because that's where the growth, the aha moments come from the confidence that inner confidence that they can develop. So it's always great to reinforce people's confidence and that inner

insight that they get. In fact, ⁓ it's easier, I feel happier and freer, knowing I it's not my opportunity to clarify everything for a loved one, or people that you really love and respect. Yeah, so that goes back to the what we talk about a lot of times is making this practical.

So in recognizing all this unseen parts of us that we honestly should freaking know from like day dot, right? We come in, we're a sensitive soul and we, and the different cycles we go through and what we would experience here and recognizing that it's all a part of us. And so how to make it practical. And that's a lot of what we share in our intuition now classes is that practicality of getting your own answers or what I recently had to put, you know, do it yourself.

Yeah, that inner leadership, that inner security, that inner being confident. You know, I had another experience that I could share about please do come to me. I was thinking about before in our green room, the living room, the cream room, the cream room in the cream room. The ⁓ incident was where I have lost my train of thought.

too social there. It'll come back. It'll come back in the green, say the cream room again and cream room. It'll come back about being practical with your spirituality. Yeah, to make it practical. That's an important thing because if you understand and ⁓ can relate to, you know, your psychic perceptions and your spiritual helpers and your energy and and how not to be like we're talking about, you know, fearful or scared or anxious about what we pick up and you know, our

involved in every day in that aspect of the unseen parts of us and learning how to make a practical can really be a benefit to yourself and then also to the people that you radiate and echo out that energy to as you move through your days. Yeah, and you know, remember? Not really, but I'll just start talking. It'll come back. Come back. I love when that happens. Just kind of leave so

Anyway, working with my guidance and making it practical so that I know when to move in and move out with people, ⁓ respect the sensitivity that they have, and ⁓ allow them, you know, to grow at their own pace. There's no greater than or lesser than, there's no competition when it comes to a soul's spiritual growth. There's just souls with more experience and more awareness who may be practicing or tried to practice.

or been involved for a longer period of time. And there will always be opportunity to share with our brothers and sisters, you might say spiritually, you know, little insights and tidbits. But the key is to help people to stand on their own two feet from a spiritual, you know, perspective. Yeah, and also the more relaxed you can stay with interacting with others that may not be on the same wavelength as you actually the more influence and impact you can have on

your energy being a good, you know, mojo sort of energy going out into the world and going out into, know, where you're say work at or you live at. And so I know for myself and that has helped tremendously because I move in and out with people in different times of my day and different times of the month and recognize that, you know, even if these people don't know anything about that part of them, it's OK because we resonate and energy and I say we but I mean, I but also you out there listeners.

wherever you're at, resonate a beautiful energy, no matter if people, if they relate to you or not, but you stay relaxed with that. And then you're going to attract those that want to interact with you. And then you're also going to repel those that you probably don't need to interact with. Well, know, spirit must've wanted this message out because you've just essentially picked up and channeled what I was thinking about and that get out of town. Here's my way of saying it different than Teresa's that

That's a more effective way of leadership for me is to allow people to develop their own answers. And many times, even when we're giving classes, you know, I'm very sensitive. I've done lots of readings. I can read people's auras. I've worked on myself a lot and I work as a consultant or counselor to people from a spiritual perspective, working with guidance.

And they can share some of the experiences they're having. And I can almost read them like a book, you know, I go, ⁓ they're doing this, they're doing that. I get little insights. And sometimes those insights are for me to kind of help me see something more clearly about myself. And they're just provide an example of one of those learning experiences that they're going through. So ⁓ I really caution people who want to give people their own answers in that.

It's a trap you can fall into. And it's kind of a downward spiral. The best leaders help people flourish and rise above. And when I'm relaxed and I'm clear and not sort of trying to put my point of view across, but just sharing at the right time, at the right place with my guidance, letting that little penny drop for people, being of service that way, you know.

So they have their aha moments or they have their insights. And now you've got and they love it, you know, they, they feel secure. They feel good. And this is the challenge we have with ⁓ younger people, and particularly loved ones, we want to help them get where we're at. That's a religious concept, really, that's a religious training, you know, that people have. Yeah, I think the thing that pops into my mind, too, is just sharing this is that

recognizing that, like you said, like some of the things that I pick up for other people are not for me to share. And here's a good example. Or an interesting example. So years ago, I used to do a bunch of mediumship training and channeling and trance work and et cetera for when I was living in Florida. And there was this medium that I was with, or he was a guy who was very trained, well trained in mediumship. And so we're traveling along, we stopped at McDonald's to get an ice cream on the way back to where we're going to.

And so he goes in, we go into McDonald's and there's a really young gentleman behind the, who's the cashier. And so we ordered our stuff and right when he turned this guy, my friend says to him, Hey, stay in school because you know, that's going to be help more for helpful than this. But he like, he like blurred it out and the guy was like, what, what? And it was just interesting because I kind of, it was kind of funny, but yet it wasn't because it was almost like, you know, was that

really did you need to tell that to that person? And of course, this is just an example of just blurting something out because maybe he did need to hear that. Maybe that guy didn't need to hear it, but it was just at an odd. was an odd experience. And for myself, again, I kind of laughed a little bit about at the time, but you know, there are times to share things and then there's times that, OK, well, that information is just for me. And so I need to check. Do I share that or not? And this guy just blurted it out. So he will. I got the impression as you're talking and I, you know, have that

memory about that is that he didn't have a moment he didn't check with his with anything he just blah you know just blurted it out sensitivity his sensitivity yeah so that's that's just one example of you know many times I'm sure I'm sure myself too I've probably said things I'm like why did I why did I say that night if I would have checked in I probably wouldn't have said that crap I found you know getting back to being sensitive you know I found that there's been people on the phone that I was talking to and if

you know, I pick up certain impressions or want to make a joke, you know, and it turns out that like, my God, I'm speaking to somebody that I'm glad I didn't make that joke, you know, would have been inappropriate. And I wouldn't have been able to tell because I couldn't see him, but I'm so sensitive. I'm picking up on, you know, it's like talking to somebody who's Italian and maybe making an improper joke or, you know, something about being Italian and talking too much or being in the mafia or, know, something like that.

where I don't really mean anything by it, but you know, in business, it might not be the best thing to say, might be inappropriate, you know, so, yeah, with with spirit, ⁓ they will ⁓ say things through other people sometimes, and right people that have maybe mastered that area. So it's always great. Like when you hear something like that, like this guy blurted out stay in school.

You know what I would do if that happened to me that kind of a situation is I'd relax and I go, that's interesting. That really struck me when the person said it. Is that something I need to pay attention to? So you know, there's that too. This is what's great about working with guidance. I mean, we have so much backing and you know, as long as we move from the pivot or I found when I moved from the pivot that I'm already perfect. Now how I behave is not always to my best interests or

to my best advantage or the most effective ⁓ way to work with my energies so that I can stay in that mode of being happy and free and achieve what I came to achieve here and have the relationships that I want. But if I work from the perspective that as a soul, I'm already perfect, then the pressure's off. I'm not saying I'm not going to improve or I'm just learning more about my sensitivity. know what I do, Tom? What's that?

I remember that I'm damn human. That I am having a human experience. so, and honestly, the ways that I learn and grow is by having moments where I maybe make a mistake or I say something stupid or, you know, make someone pissed and then I'm learning about your sensitivity. Absolutely. And I think that's a big thing too, because a lot of people are like, God, if the earth was just so perfect and we all got along and love like

Really? What would we be here to learn? Like, I mean, we have to have that opposing forces and, and everyone's playing a part of the journey right now of, know, like the positive and the negative and because that's how we learn. you might say we're all just practicing. And as soon as I say that, you know, I relax, okay, I'm just practicing, there will be more opportunity to go through it again. And as I refine it, and as growing my awareness, then often I'll re experience things from a different perspective.

And apparently that's, you know, what we do, we're here to unfold that inner power, that inner wisdom. And you know, it's based from that love, true concern, one with all, we're all a part of a team vibration. like it. And I think that's a good place to end. do too. Yeah. So we hope you enjoyed this episode, this mini morsel episode of enthusiastically spiritual and any last words on that time? Yeah. Check out our intuition now courses.

some of the free videos that the Way Showers College offers and Teresa's SoulQuake Survival Guide book. It'll help you get started and give you some key techniques. ⁓ sounds good to me. And so until next week, just remember that life is too short to not be enthusiastic about your unique journey.

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