The Bubble Effect: Spiritual Protection and Backing in Unity of Purpose

Spiritual Perspectives: Discerning News on current events relating to our personal energy and experience.  In this episode, the hosts discuss the recent Social Media "feud" between Donald Trump and Elon Musk to delve into the positive energy "bubble effect" in relationships and teamwork working for a clear purpose, emphasizing the importance of unity and common goals.  

Season 1 Episode 24 of "...Discerning News."hosted by Teresa Shantz, Author and Podcast Host,  Tom Shantz, "The Spiritual Businessman" along with Tiger Coll, D.D., President, Wayshowers College (SM).

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• 0:00 Summer Vibes and New Beginnings
• 8:10 Awareness of the Bubble Effect
• 17:37 The Nature of Change and Personal Growth
• 26:39 Wants vs. Needs on Teamwork and Unity of Purpose

Transcript

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Welcome to our summer series. You guys ready? I'm enjoying it. I'm dressed for summer. Certainly ready for summer. Yeah, we've been doing this for six months now and it is time to shift it up a little bit for the summer vibes going on. And we've got some really good episodes coming up in the next few weeks for you. And we're going to start this one off with some interesting vibes. So what you got to share Tom? Well, the story of the moment is probably the best way to put that.

is this feud between Donald Trump and Elon Musk. And to just recap, because I was following it for some reason, I was getting some, you know, notices and so forth. And I saw this tweet on X by Elon, that was disparaging the big beautiful bill. And it's pretty obvious that

you know, as he was involved with Doge and cutting costs and finding waste and fraud. And he's been a proponent of, you know, cutting spending in a balanced budget ⁓ out of the necessity of reducing the, you know, the debt and because it's massive and it's going to be, you know, get worse. So anyway, he's not he wasn't impressed with the big, beautiful bill because it's it continues spending. And in fact, it adds to the

national debt, the deficit in the yearly budget was going to accumulate and increase the national debt, which is already at like $37 trillion. So I was watching a Trump and the Chancellor of Germany, a press conference. And during that, the reporters asked Trump about

Elon's tweet. And that was the first time that Trump really responded. And he said some things about Elon, like always wearing thin and he went a little crazy and, you know, some things that just didn't seem quite right. you know, Trump's really backs a big, beautiful bill and he wants to get it passed. So from there, the back and forth continued between Trump and Elon. And in in my view, at first,

Uh, it was more the first tweet by Elon was more about the policy and then it got personal. There's some stuff going on there. But what was funny, what was funny was Trump predicted. He goes, well, it hasn't been personal yet, but I think he's going to go there. And I mean, it was just really uncanny. Um, some of the things that were said, and then they did, it did play out that way. Um, so those are the basic facts. I won't.

won't talk about my reactions or responses yet. Yeah, well, that's a big deal. Yeah. And the first thing I pop in my mind when I heard this and I, you know, I didn't hear anything for the whole day because I'm at work, right? And then Tom's like, guess what happened today? I'm like, what is that this was this is just something set up to stir the energy to absolutely stir the energy because when things are going so well, something sends us sometimes come in confusion, whatever you want to call it to

Stir the pot, get things going. What do think, Tiger? I mean, that's, that's pretty much the size of it. And, you know, I'm, this whole thing is, is discerning news, right? This, this, this whole podcast is discerning news. So I have to discern what that is for me and how I'm going to work with it so that I can, I can have more fulfillment in my life. You know, two, two guys, two powerful people.

beating each other up over whatever the hell, know, playing Kardashians. It's like, okay, right. Wow. It's, Ooh, you know, but I mean, obviously it just fills the airwaves with it. So I can't help, but hear about it. Right. You know, but the thing I wanted to open with on this had to do with bubbles. I wanted to open with bubbles. So there was this, um, thing

that they united for, right? And so they got together and they moved forward to accomplish their goals, right? In this case, it was the election. And then, you know, they moved on to the next phase. In this case, ⁓ Elon went into Doge and, you know, Trump went into the presidency and doing all that thing. And so when you're working like that and there's this unified situation,

You get into a bubble. There's a bubble there, right? And the little things that can bother you, you're able to move through them, right? Because you have this unified energy. It's kind of like being in a family, ⁓ you're just gonna say that I've had this happen so many times to me. So, but the moment I step outside of that or I get away from it, all of a sudden...

the distinction start really showing up. Right. And so to me, that's what's going on there. You have two powerful people. mean, this, the one here is the, you know, supposedly the richest person on the planet. And here you have the other one is the most Googled person on the planet. Like, right. You got the Trump guy. so, well, and you could say the most powerful.

He's certainly electric. He's certainly electric. Whatever he does, people, you know, like him, love him, whatever the heck it is, hate him. It's, it's an electric energy there. The point is, is you got two strong willed people there and the moment they move off their unified goal, then their uniquenesses start showing back up. Right. And, and because that's the bubble.

And so I'm, what I'm equating that to is it is important that when I'm unified for something, I respect and honor that bubble. respect and honor that teamwork because there's protection in it. I'm able to get going forward with other people, even if I, they're not the people I normally would want to hang out with. We're all unified for something and I'm able to handle.

the idio sequences and the the the personality is better, right? Because we have this unified energy. It's kind of we had that they did that podcast on Memorial Day about that unified mission that those people have. When you're in that in vibration, it's this unified thing. So same is happening there. So there's a bubble there that they were both working off of. And now that Elon Musk has stepped out of that, now he's

The little stuff that bothered him now is becoming front and center, right? his thing and amplified, right? So this is normal. This happens to, I mean, people write books, you know, they, had the different administrations and this one gets fired or leaves, and then they write a book, you know, and trash in the whole thing. And that's all normal. It happens every single time with every single administration, every single prime minister and all this stuff. So that's, that part's normal. What is important to me is.

how when I'm involved in something and I'd like you to share on the family part of it, but when I'm involved in something, I've got this backing to all go forward to accomplish something united. Right. But the moment I take a step out, that's when I'll feel the individuals within the situation instead of a team. And I'm not suggesting one is better than the other. I'm just suggesting and being aware that that's a reality. And so.

For me to be able to move in and out and work with people, I need to be aware of that. I need to be aware that I need to put my personality aside when it comes to teamwork. I cannot have my personality amongst the teamwork and the mission that has to be takes aside. Now, when it starts getting back into my own energy and I'm in my own thing and I'm doing my own business, I can bring other things back into place. Right.

So it's just being for me, it's being aware of the bubble, being aware of what's me and not me and being aware when I need to cut the personality and just work together and when to say, okay, that's it. Yeah. So it's interesting because you know, you're mentioning this bubble and I, I relate it to for myself, a family or even friends, new situation. So it's like that honeymoon stage. It's like, it's like Trump and Elon had the honeymoon stage.

And I've done this so many times where I meet someone, I'm all excited, my energy is high. Like you said, maybe come together to do something together or to have a new experience together. And then down the road, it's not so much fun. I'm Thomas said, as we before, he's like, boy, you know, sometimes you go through people because it's just like, I get involved in that new bubble energy. Yeah. And it and then I'm so excited. I'm so you know, like into someone new. And then it's like, well, gosh, now I do see their pitfalls or their

the things they have going on, the pitfalls I experienced with that person. And they probably vice versa for me too. Right. So it's interesting the dynamics of seeing these two very well renowned people of really of the whole world, right? And how they're interacting with one another. What strikes me is ⁓ Trump, one of his first, you know, responses or reactions to the Elon's tweet, the initial tweet was, you know,

It seems ⁓ that maybe he's got Trump derangement syndrome. I'm certainly paraphrasing here, but he did say Trump derangement. He goes, lot of people, once they leave, you know, the oval office and they get out of the, you know, ⁓ the glow of the oval office or the limelight or whatever, or the bubble. know, Trump wasn't using sophisticated language. That's not his style. But I'm thinking to myself, wow, that guy's really

sensitive. I mean, he's not completely discerning a bubble of energy. He thinks of it more in terms of, you know, the grandeur of the office or whatever. But I mean, that's exactly what he said he's just like, but when they get out of the partnership bands, you know, the mission together and some people move out of that energy is what we would say, then all of a sudden, you know, the like you saying the differences show up. Yeah. I mean, so the

The common, what is the common goal? If I, if I'm not clear with what my common goal is with people or my team, I'm going to have trouble. Right. And when you have such with, with the transition of power in this case, where you're going from one kind of, I guess you could say one extreme to another might be most people out there would kind of see that even people who are supportive of.

the blue ties and people are supportive of the red ties. It's, it's a swing, right? It's not kind of like, well, we're kind of here and then we just kind of go there and then we kind of go here. No, it's a swing. And so when you have that kind of situation, or I have that situation in my life where there's a swing and now I'm correcting something for myself, right? I'm changing a habit. If I keep doing the same thing and

wonder why it's not changing. I'm a little bit crazy, you know, so I need to change something, something needs to shift. So that unifies energy, right? It unifies people. The swing does that because we're way the heck over here. I want to go over here. That provides a lot of focus. If it's just like, wow, we're kind of both in the middle and then it's this thing, but you're going from way over here to way over here for those.

listening and not seeing me. It's like I got my hands completely spread apart. You're going from way over here to this side. So that unifies energy. In other words, for myself, if I'm going to make a change, if I want to make a change, or you were talking about confusion earlier, if I want to make a change so that I don't keep attracting the same problem, I'm going to have to make it. I can't keep going down the same track. I need to get on a different track. Now,

how I do that, and this is kind of the part that bothers me personally about it, because it's just not my style, right? This is my personality talking. It's not my style to deal with things like that. Like I feel like even if there was bad mouth for me, someone is bad mouthing, you know, I'm usually the guy who says, well, you know, I mean, actually they're kind of ignorant because they're picking the problems that, you know, they do by real problems, wouldn't.

Pick those to talk about, you know, I didn't pick a better problem that talk. So I'm more that style, right? So that's not my way, the way that hit and hit back and stuff like that. But it sure does make for good TV as they say, but, in the end it's, it's me knowing that when I go to make a change, there is a lot of backing there. There's a lot of support. My spiritual helpers are there to back me there to really make the change. And we were talking in the green room earlier.

⁓ how this week has been quite a week. And if I keep doing what I've always done, I'm going to get what I've always got. And so it's, it's imperative to me to catch those little things quickly and move on them. Be obedient, be obedient to my inspiration, be obedient to my true feelings, obedient to spirit.

Otherwise I miss the opportunity. And Tom, you were talking about, you were saying that you were picking something up and it's like, I don't want to do that. But then you caught yourself, right? It's like, no, that's I want to get that clear. You know, it's like, that's that old habit. And I relate to that. I don't know if other people do it's that old habit of just doing something where I miss the timing, doing something where that fear of success moves in.

Yeah, I think the other thing that comes to mind with this story, which it can be with a lot of other stories, too. You know, we hit some high some good stories every week, but usable instruments. Yeah, right. That's that. That's exactly it. That and they're human. The people that we see in these stories week after week on the news and the media online, whatever. They're they're usable instruments, as as you know, like we people put them on a pedestal. They're just human. Yeah.

And I think that's the part for myself that I really take into consideration is that, okay, well, Trump's got way more money than I do, and so does Elon and whatever. But my God, they're human, and they're gonna have their ups and downs, they're gonna have their, I hate you, I love yous, their interactions with one another, and sometimes it's really messy, like a lot of our lives can be. But being able to recognize when...

when we see something like that, and when I see something like that on the news, that's why we do this, really why we do this, this podcast to really showcase that what we're seeing out there is just mirroring what we're all going through. It's just different, different dimensions as different people, different levels of consciousness. Cause like you were saying, Tom, mean, Trump, you know, either love or hate him, but he's very aware and he's very good with moving in his, in his timing.

to be where he's at. mean, you have to be right to be a president, to be able to make that timing to be, you know, and even like the four years between the first timing, I feel that spirit got there. Something came in that for four years we had to have some shifting and then he came back into now here's a new, new perspective and new timing for you to work with. So being human and being a usable instrument. Yeah, I, I'm cutting you off a little bit, Tom, but I wanted to just add to that.

That's like super important for everybody listening and for myself is it is my responsibility and no other, not even spirit gets in the way of my loyalty to my decisions. Not that's how I know the difference between a high soul and a soul that isn't made the grade yet. My high soul will never interfere with my free will.

Right? That is the distinction where souls of lower vibration or even people, sometimes they want something from me. They want something from me. And I understand, you know, if I'm not in business, if you're in business, it's, know, you have an energy exchange for things. So I, here's the widget, you give me a dollar for the widget. Here we go. You know, you want something, but there's an energy exchange when, when there's that lower vibration.

They, they want something from me, right? Where that master soul, that higher level energy is just sharing its love. It's just giving, right? Doesn't mean they don't tell, tell me tiger, what the heck you doing you dummy. ⁓ but it's, it's a giving vibration. And so it is my responsibility to catch these things. That's what, where I was going with that confusion thing. So

If I get into a situation where personalities are taking over, right. It's my responsibility to make sure I don't contribute in that lest I be caught in it. That that's, you know, the thing is that the Fred Ricknick che quote, something about if you stare into the abyss long enough, the abyss stares back into you, you know, that kind of thing.

So that is a really good one that it's my responsibility to catch this stuff and to do something with that energy. If I don't do something with the energy, it's going, I'm going to fight it. I'm going to fight it. I'm I'm having my primary gift is an intuitive gift first, right? We have all four gifts, but intuitive gift is my first one and

If I, when I sense that energy, I discern that energy. If I don't do something with it right away, I will start wrestling with it. I will start thinking about it. Right. Even if I know it's not me, sometimes I'll start wrestling with it. But the moment I call it out, the moment I do something with it, like that little quippy thing, like, Oh tiger, you're, uh, you know, you're just this and that, and, or you're a charlatan or whatever, you know, what they want to say to me.

And it's like, well, you know, if you actually knew me, you wouldn't say that because I have much worse faults than that. But that's doing something with the energy, right? That's shifting it and saying, my energy, I get to do what I want, which really shows me that when I'm, when I'm getting caught in confusion, how I, I must want it. I know this sounds like a big horse pill to swallow, but

It gets to the point in my life. And I think with people who do a lot of work on themselves personally, it gets to the point where I have no one to blame. There's no one to blame anymore. Right. I go look in the mirror. Well, I must like it. If I'm doing that dumb thing and I keep having those dumb results, I must like it because I can do whatever I want. Does that make sense? Yeah. A couple of the things that struck me were, ⁓ number one, I want to get on the record.

this too shall pass. I've been hearing that from spirit. And my first sort of reactions were like, I didn't like it that they were fighting. you know, admire the work they both people there's aspects that I admire. I don't like to see that kind of division. The second thing I thought was, boy, you know, they're not showing a lot of leadership. So

Yeah, take, let's exactly on first. That's a whole other ballgame. Yeah. Let's take, let's take Elon's. I don't know. Relate this to myself. His first tweet, which was more about the bill and he got a bit, you know, ⁓ I guess some people would say he got on bombastic and you should all be ashamed of yourselves and you know, you're doing wrong. And I would say he got his panties in a wad. So he was my, that's what I, so he was obviously, ⁓ he goes, I can't hold it back anymore, which

often to me is a sign that's confusions moving in because you can't, you know, kind of a thing or you've waited too long. The timing's over with. So, ⁓ I evaluate that in that when I get stimulated, like, so Elon, that feeling you got stimulated, he's going to put this big tweet out. ⁓ you know, it's important that I say, wait a minute, what's

How can I work with spirit and be more of a leader in this situation? How can I clarify this? You know, it's new ground for me, but he probably, I don't wanna speak for him, but it wouldn't surprise me if he goes through a pattern of this sort of thing. Where he gets, and here's the pattern, we'll start with assumptions. So they had something together.

And then the energy exchange for that service wasn't clear or they, they were clear about aspects of the mission, but really what he was going to get out of it or what the final purpose was, they left that vague. And so now it's the big surprise that they're not going to cut spending. We're going to go ahead with this big, beautiful bill, which, you know, if you

watched Trump in the first term. I mean, he's a bit like that. He's a spender. He's a businessman. He's this but he wants to take the money and invest it would be my way of putting it. You know, it's a different, it's kind of a different energy. And so confusion can move right in because it wasn't clear what the energy exchange was up front. And then in addition, it's disappointing that really either both parties can't show don't show

a more positive style of leadership. For example, if I were, if it were me, my style would be, I think, you know, he did a lot of great work for us. He's a great guy. However, I think he's confused about what we need to accomplish at this point. And here's why. And so in listening to some of the commentators and the people that have, you know, analyzed these things, ⁓

they talk about that, like there's two views. One is there's not enough votes, we need to get this done now and then work on the second part later. ⁓ And so, there's some disagreement. Part of me says, this is America, this is healthy disagreement. We've got two powerful guys that say, no, I think we should do it this way. No, I think we should do it that way. And that's part of the process is the... ⁓

you know, let's clarify those facts. ⁓ so in terms of Trump's reaction and in terms of what Elon came out with at first, because you've got to know that with Trump, he's going to go into street fight. In fact, one of the commentators mentioned he likes to go in this transact. He goes into transactional mode. What's interesting about Trump is that he seems to know that he

I sometimes think he knows he's got to play that game to win the transaction because people are already talking about, but you watch him. He'll make friends with him again. He'll, they'll be friends again because Trump's done this time and time again. And so, ⁓ anyway, mean, ⁓ those are some of my thoughts and assumptions getting cranked up when, when the, something wasn't clear. So does that happen to me? Yes. I didn't.

I assumed sometimes I'll assume what I'm going to get out of a relationship or a situation or a job. And then there's like, my God, it's not what I thought. And the big disillusionment and then the lashing out, you know. And if this becomes a pattern, well, don't worry because this too will pass and you'll probably get another chance to go through it again. Yeah, well, that's, where I was going to go a little bit is that here we go. Right. And this happens.

over and over again, cycle by cycle, group by group, left, right, left, right, you know, the on and on again. So it takes two to tango, right? I'm kind of on that. summary for the, know, let's summarize this now. Yeah. So it takes two to tango. And, um, for me in the discerning news of this, there's a, this is a very spiritual program. So

How, do you, how do you prevent, ⁓ poop from stinking? You don't stir it. Right. So that's your spiritual perspective. a spiritual perspective. So I need to be more sensitive to like, I don't need to be stirring problems. I don't need to be stirring stuff that I really not going anywhere for me in my life. And

I also need to be sensitive of the difference between what my wants and my needs and why that's important in this situation is because going back to the, opened with being in the bubble and the bubble has protection. has teamwork. lets me move forward like a wedge of energy. However, if I don't have naturally built up maturity and learned from that situation,

I will stay within the parameters of the bubble. I forget that with the economy, there has to be booms and there has to be busts. They can't have one with the out the other. We have to breathe in and we have to breathe out. We can't have one without the other. So that is the nature and it is the nature of government.

to get so bloated and then they blow it and something comes crashing down and then they got to restart again. This has happened time after time since they organize Greece and Rome and so on and on it goes. So when I lose sight of that, I'm forgetting the, I mean the problem of my wants versus my needs rather than being together, right?

What's happening with those two right now is they're wrestling with their wants and they haven't come back to what the need is. Right. And that's what can happen to me if I, if I lose that big picture and I lose sight of that. And I think for myself in winding this up is that, ⁓ it's really just a, a mirror of how we live our lives because like you're saying, you know, things were in complete happiness. Everything's going well. We're, know,

feeling good and we're peaceful and then all of a sudden something will come in and there's the next challenge. And this is how life goes. so, but I agree with you, Tom, with your saying about, you know, how they're interacting with one another. It's very childish. So it's just seeing that picture and just recognizing that, how do I do that? Because that's really all a reflection of everything that we're sharing in these episodes is.

How does that affect me and how do I feel about it? And how do I interact like that in the world? So that's my, that's my two cents worth to wind this over at you, Tom. Take us home. it up, take it home, Tom. the, what's amazing to me is how we see examples of this outside. And that's when I talk about two different people, I'm really not.

promoting them or putting anyone down. I'm just saying, isn't it something they go through the same sorts of things that we all go through? And what struck me about the back and forth is there's no relief to it. Yes. There's no relief to that. You know, well, you take this and then I said that and and all emotion. And I also I also take it with a bit of a grain of salt in that I imagine that both

are under pressure, particularly Elon with Tesla and all that he's been through. And in terms of the economy, his companies, I that's why he quit. He stopped doing the Doge thing was because he had to get back to business and pay attention to it. So, have I seen this in other people that are around me? Have I done the same thing? Sure, I've been under

pressure like you were sharing in the green room earlier, like it's never just one thing, right? It's the confusion can chip away with these little things and then all of a sudden this little thing happens and we're kicking the door and throwing our glasses and throwing a little tantrum. Yeah. All right. You good? Yeah, I'm good. Are you ready to throw a tantrum? No, I'm not. Thank you for listening to it and watching another episode of Spiritual Perspective Discerning News.

We hope you enjoy this and the other upcoming episodes of our summer series. We look forward to sharing more with you. And until next time, enjoy the seeing the perspectives that are out there in the news and how you go about realizing what's really going on behind the scenes. See you guys soon.