A Journey of Courage: Overcoming Cancer and Life's Challenges with Dr. Robin Tim So

Do we really create our own illnesses?...Our body has the capacity to self heal." Teresa Shantz, Host and Author, and Dr. Robin Tim So, a prominent Australian Acupuncturist, and stage 4 cancer surviver, explore the journey of spirituality, healing, and self-discovery. 

They discuss the pivotal moments that lead individuals to embrace their spiritual paths, focusing on the challenges faced during healing processes, particularly in relation to cancer. They emphasize spiritual healing through awareness of one's life purpose as well as the need for a like minded community connection in a world that often promotes isolation and just going through the motions.  "Living is more than just existing," says Dr Tim So.

Providing examples from their experiences, they highlight the significance of trusting one's intuition and the transformative power of understanding one's true self, for spiritual and physical healing. Dr. Robin Tim So shares insights gained whilst navigating his cancer journey and experience with his patients and clients sharing on the importance of personal responsibility in healing. 

Dr Tim So emphasizes the need for individuals to find their purpose beyond the diagnosis and to embrace a simpler, more mindful approach to life. The discussion highlights the significance of personal experience in healing, the connection between spirituality and physical health, and the potential future of healing with advancements in technology. Dr. Tim So encourages listeners to trust their intuition and recognize their body's innate ability to heal.

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ITNT SpiritWorks (00:01)
There is a point within all of our lives where we come to a kind of like a gateway where you can either go through the gate and kind of expand yourself and understand more spiritual about who you are or you can kind of keep the gate closed and go, OK, I'm going to stay where I'm at and just kind of live life simply. So I've invited my good friend Robin Timso on today to share a bit about the journey of spirituality because he's been on it for quite a number of years. Right, Robin?

Dr Robin Tim So ( Acupuncture) (00:29)
Yeah.

Absolutely. It's never ending too. That's the beauty of it all.

TNT SpiritWorks (00:33)
and also, you know, simplifying it.

Absolutely right. So let's talk about that pivotal point where because I know for myself, I came in 38, I went to massage therapy school and then I really started opening up to there's more than just what I'm seeing in my eyes. There's more that I'm feeling in my body. And what is this all about? And I know for yourself, you came into this spiritual work and spirituality quite a few decades before that, correct?

Dr Robin Tim So ( Acupuncture) (01:03)
Yeah, I was born one of these people that actually started searching very, early in life. lost her. Hopefully we can get you back. What happened?

TNT SpiritWorks (01:15)
You

Dr Robin Tim So ( Acupuncture) (01:19)
⁓ sorry, Teresa. There we go.

TNT SpiritWorks (01:21)
Okay, no worries. There

we go.

Dr Robin Tim So ( Acupuncture) (01:26)
⁓ So yeah, there's a woman that we were associated with through ⁓ through Tiger Cole and even Tom. And she was the registrar at a course one day when I was in Florida and we'd never met before and she said, ⁓ you're one of the rainbow kids.

What are you talking about? Back then I was sort of aware of these different generations of souls incarnating back. And she said to me, yeah, you're a rainbow child. What year were you born? And she told me that in the late 50s, the soul started incarnating back to what I discovered was to help change the course of injustice on the planet.

And that just rang so true to me. Injustice was really what I grew up with. I mean, I grew up in Australia with, in my case, I had a lot of prejudice attacked at me when I was a little kid going to school. And, you know, the modern day bully that is often, you know, shows up, the bullies. And I realized very early that

injustices were prevailing and that people were quite mean, which wasn't sort of comfortable with my normal lifestyle. ⁓ so, and then she was telling me that that the Beatles were the opening of that energy on the planet. And so it's sort of like all this this ideas came to me and I actually treated George Harrison. now.

probably over 25 years ago when he was here on the Gold Coast as an acupuncturist. I've been practicing now for 44 years. And I had an opportunity to treat George Harrison and, and when I was taking his pulses, I was like, my gosh, where's this man traveled and how much has he been connected to other souls on the planet just through his music. And so to cut a long story short,

It's all about what I know in my heart was what I was destined to do all along was to follow this unique and different pathway of spirituality. And, you know, I even became a registered acupuncturist at the age of 21 and my membership number in Australia is number 49. that's it.

TNT SpiritWorks (04:17)
wow.

Dr Robin Tim So ( Acupuncture) (04:19)
Back then, I didn't realize we were early influencers like on YouTube right now. But yeah, I must've been an influencer at the age of 21 setting up practice and diving into this idea of health and healing and, you know, preventative medicine. And the question always came about for me was to understand, you know, do we really create our own illnesses and is that possible to heal ourselves?

And that's always been something that's driven me for the last 44 years of self-awareness and spirituality and searching and study and listening to what my spirit told me in a lot of cases. Because, you know, it's not necessarily documented this other world called the sixth sense, but we have personal experiences. Every one of us have personal experience so far.

of this and I was able to refine that through different training and courses that I've worked with, know, people that have come onto your program and stuff like that, I'm aware of, yeah.

TNT SpiritWorks (05:30)
Yeah, it's interesting Robin, you know, and you're talking about coming in these groups of souls that have come in to do different things and open up and expand and help humanity in different ways. And I know of a recent soul that just arrived in May and this soul came in and it was so sick for the first couple days. It literally almost died. And now he's thriving. as soon as I heard the story, was like, wow.

Dr Robin Tim So ( Acupuncture) (05:42)
Mmm.

TNT SpiritWorks (05:58)
this soul came, there's some, mean, it could have exited, it could have stayed, but there's something that the soul is here to do. And so I think back, you know, and also to other souls that have come in and had traumatic things going on right at the beginning. Like my first impression was it was something from a past, a past, you know, incarnation that, you know, really was stimulated by this birth. And then it got past it and wanted to stay. So I think it's fascinating to really just contemplate.

Dr Robin Tim So ( Acupuncture) (06:11)
Mm.

Mm.

TNT SpiritWorks (06:27)
all that we bring into these lives and the timing that we're all here as you're saying the generational components of when we're coming in.

Dr Robin Tim So ( Acupuncture) (06:33)
Yeah.

Well, you know, the same token that I've always debated in my mind, why does a little one get, you know, cancer or, you know, like in the pediatric wards, why do these little guys get sick? What's going on here? And some, some facets of it, we could look at their initial diet, their, their, upbringing.

But there's gotta be some other influence in my mind. And as you said, it's probably to do with what they came in with this life to clarify early and they were either recovered or they decide I'm out of here. They don't choose to stay. And it makes it lot easier when you understand that because I've had a lot of clients throughout the years have had miscarriages that were really, really struggling with this idea that they're young.

unborn child even had passed away or had left before they came in. you know, it really, when you understand a little bit more about the spirituality of things, it makes life so much more simpler. And really, that's what I'm going to talk about how, how, how, you know, the proverbial saying kiss, K-I-S-S, keep it simple, stupid is really, is really what's what

I have learned after all these years of working with clients and patients, know, and disease and, and even my own journey of stage four non-small cell lung cancer. Now I'll just say a little bit about it right now. We might come back to it, but you know, in my early 60s, I'm 68 right now. In my early 60s, coming up to 63 years of age,

which is the cycle shift. ⁓ I was really quite, I wouldn't say that I was enthusiastic with life in the same way that I have recovered on that area. I was to some degree bored with the way life was and I clarified a lot of answers to myself. Anyway.

Three weeks before I turned 63, I got diagnosed with stage four non-small cell lung cancer. So I'm sitting in the hospital thinking, staring at the ceiling thinking, what the hell did I do that to myself? And I finally got to the clarity that I had an opportunity to depart and finish my life on planet Earth or hang in there and move through this next stage called...

63 and onwards where is the cycle of inner peace and contentment and doing your greatest work. And I've always aspired towards my life work. And so I've made the choice of conscious decision sooner or later, we're all going to go. I just choose later, not sooner. And that was in the hospital room. And I actually then started to proceed to recover from stage four non-soul cell lung cancer, which is terminal by the way.

⁓ that took four years

TNT SpiritWorks (09:49)
There's only

four stages, right? Or is there five for cancers? Four is like, yeah.

Dr Robin Tim So ( Acupuncture) (09:53)
No, there's only four stages.

Yeah. And I chose to not follow the statistics. I did choose immunotherapy, which I believe is the better choice of the two, chemo or immuno at the time. And so I was given the opportunity of immuno as the first step. I supported that idea.

Did two years of that, reduced the tumor, did a lot of other things to support my body and my immune system through the process. And ⁓ after two years in Australia, they finished that program. It was like, that's it, it's over. You don't do anything anymore. So at that stage, I'd only reduced the tumor by 30%, but I was stable. I hadn't gone any worse the whole time.

And then I had to proceed into finding ways of actually digging deeper. And that's really where I think the changes came from conventional medicine and everything. And I have to tell you, was all to do with the simplicity of nature and understanding how your human body works from a natural point of view. so consistently, I came back to that natural place.

and simplicity and now to me there's no choice. have to be, I have to keep my life simple. ⁓ I can't make it complex. I can't get too busy. ⁓ I only work clinic in the mornings. I don't work really in the afternoons. I do cancer coaching anywhere on the planet. that's when I probably find myself working at the hours of like six o'clock in the morning because of people in the US.

⁓ But that's okay. We're usually up at five anyway. And so it's a different energy to be talking to people and helping them at that stage. then I'm back in clinic for a little while and then the afternoon's mine. And so ⁓ I've found a good balance in my work life, personal life. I think that's the main thing that's changed for me. And the desire to

So I understand that we can heal ourself. That desire has changed now to help other people see that. Because I finally found the answer and that answer came through my own experience. My number one patient showed up and that was me. And I had to do the work and trust my intuition and trust each step along the way and tune into my higher self, my guidance to get a...

TNT SpiritWorks (12:26)
Right.

Dr Robin Tim So ( Acupuncture) (12:39)
guideline on what I needed to do. And that's what I do now with coaching people. And I know you do the same with supporting people to help them help themselves and set themselves free from their own indoctrinations and or belief systems. Sometimes our own stubbornness gets in the way, which is just, you know, we complicate life for no reason. Again, I'm saying we've got to keep it simple.

really come back to that simplicity.

TNT SpiritWorks (13:11)
Yeah, I think that's so important and especially in a world where things are so complex on all realms, right? Like the physical, the mental and the spiritual and especially speaking about the spiritual because there's so many people out there that make it more intellectual than feeling. so, as you know, Robin, like, you know, it starts with the feel and then the think and then the act. And it's like, you know, a beautiful ⁓

Dr Robin Tim So ( Acupuncture) (13:28)
Yeah.

TNT SpiritWorks (13:36)
way of moving forth versus all the intellectual knowledge and the books and the this and the that. And because I know like about I guess about a year and a half, maybe before 2024, I got to a point where I stopped interviewing people because I, just couldn't I couldn't resonate. wasn't resonating with the people who are coming on my podcast was all intellectual. And it was it was like what you know, like what we share, but it was at a whole different intellectual level. And I just I'm like, I'm done interviewing.

Dr Robin Tim So ( Acupuncture) (13:42)
Yeah.

TNT SpiritWorks (14:05)
So I don't really do interviews that much and more because it's just at that point and I have people come at me. So I just really ⁓ appreciate the fact that you're talking about the simplicity of it and how that really was a focus of your healing. So I want to ask you as you know, you've obviously worked with lot of people and support them healing through acupuncture and different things through the years in that sense. What was there something that surprised you when you went through your healing experience that you're like, whoa, this really surprised me.

Dr Robin Tim So ( Acupuncture) (14:06)
Yeah.

Yeah.

It's difficult to define that, to tell you the truth, because each stage of healing has its own unique parameters. And I mean, I think the one thing that comes to me right now is the resolution of suppressed emotion. And during a fast on day nine, I woke up and I opened my eyes, I was in my normal room.

And I was looking around as I was in the hospital the night of my diagnosis, looking at the sunrise. was, you know, the drapes and the walls were colored red and there was red, orange drapes. And it was just like, I'm there right now and I'm looking around, I'm catching myself looking, I'm in my house, you know, my room. And the emotion of

feeling

lost came to the surface to the degree where it then started just become a memory.

see. So my thing is about healing comes with open feelings and a day nine of a fast that released itself, it came to the surface and then I knew that I was on a healing pathway that was deeper than just immunotherapy, it was deeper than dietary changes, it was deeper, much, much deeper. And that's when I knew that I needed to go and allow that process to open up more and more for me.

And so that was very personal. Nobody knew that experience because I was the only one in that hospital room that morning. yeah, ⁓ it released itself. I didn't really shed tears that morning when I woke up day nine of my fast, but I felt the emotion leak. It was like the energy in my cells suddenly started to dissipate and it became a memory. I always say,

the emotion became ⁓ a memory at that point in time. It's just a memory. I fell off my push bike when I was, you know, a kid riding along. It just becomes a memory after a while, you know? Just recently, ⁓ a little dog ran out and got hit by a car just in front of me. And that stimulated my memory of when I was young and how my little dog got hit by a car.

Now, I have to say today right now, I'm dealing with that emotion, but I don't have any issues around just blocking it out. It's actually a point of where I know it needs to be resolved rather than me carry that any further. It just got triggered. It got triggered that event again, you know? ⁓ And so that's where I've become now. much more, I would say that I'm a lot softer.

I mean, I think I used to be quite harsh, but that hardness was only self-protection based on my sensitivity as a sensory type personality, you know? So I'm learning and I don't respond in the same way anymore. I'm too gentle. I find myself too gentle. saying I'm too gentle there. I'm not, and I'm oversensitive sometimes, you know?

But I'm really enjoying that personality because it's the real me finally coming back. That first childhood upbringing, the first seven years of our life when we were all feeling and so forth. so, know, yeah, it's quite simplistic. There we are. Simplistic again, you know? Yeah. Returning to that part of my true

childlike self, my inner sensitivity, you know? And then being mindful of that this world hasn't changed that quickly. It's still quite dog-eat-dog and competitive and everybody's in survival and everything's about, you know, figures and income and growth.

It's all just an illusion to keep us distracted from being our true self in my mind. Now, it really is an illusion. And the more that we can actually turn against that illusion and say, no, I'm going to just listen to my inner self and trust, then the more I trust that then the next steps will open up and then we will follow a pathway that leads us through that. And then we can all live that life.

of heaven on earth finally that we've been all striving for that that you your listeners would be that type of people that they have this idea of there's got to be more and this is spirituality even you know TNT spirit works it's all about spirit and being true to yourself and understanding the dynamics of being a soul with a physical body ⁓ with a family and loved ones and a society that we live in you know.

So yeah, it's finally coming home to me. And I had to go through that major lesson, really. And I say that now, it's the best thing that ever happened to me because it returned me back to a place where I don't choose anything beyond myself. You know, I mean, I've seen it. I've seen aggressive people come at me for no reason. I've got out of my car and just going for a beach walk in this place of just being.

and somebody's parking in front of me and they're yelling and carrying on. It's like, I just sort of look at them and go and walk away. It's like, you know, it's crazy the way the world's become. And people are living on the edge all the time. They're like a fuse ready to go off, you know? And then they have to go through life experiences to...

to stimulate them to make changes because at the end of the day, we all know that we need to make change, but do we actually do it because of fear and ego and competition? I'll look like a loser if I don't work hard every day. And on and on it goes. It's just such a huge distraction. And when we can actually become aware of these destructive personalities,

TNT SpiritWorks (21:21)
Yeah.

Dr Robin Tim So ( Acupuncture) (21:31)
and behaviors, then we really make our life a lot more simple. We start to see it. I don't want to be a recluse. That's the problem. When I see my life as being more simple, ⁓ being individual and understanding my own time and space is really, really comfortable. But it's very, it's very dangerous. And I remember doing a camp with in Iowa once.

And I was talking to all the people there and every person in the room lived in their own separate little abodes. And I said, that's where the problem lies is, you know, we can be with our friends and family at a retreat, but then when you go home, you were all in our little separate worlds. And that's where a big part of the problem.

starts to stem because isolation is not necessary what we're meant to be as souls. We're meant to be tribal, you know, we're meant to have have elders that that look after and train the young ones. We're meant to, you know, to nurture each other and act as a tribe, not as individuals and separate and competing against each other just for whatever it is that, you know, that

TNT SpiritWorks (22:31)
Yeah.

Dr Robin Tim So ( Acupuncture) (22:55)
that we're striving for. So yeah, I would actually say, for folks that are listening, really become aware of your competitive personality because it's going to get you into trouble eventually. Was I competitive? No, I often say that I never really was a competitive person. I saw that very young. But how I turned my competition was around

for myself, I turned internally, you know, and in my early days, was about being successful as a practitioner. In my early days, I then transferred that to patients that were not well and they were challenging. I called it challenging, you know, and to some degree, that responsibility was training me and I was learning a lot. so everything that you've done in relationship to life and life experiences is okay.

But there's got to be a point where it's not necessarily good anymore. And I know that that energy has changed now on the planet personally. I believe personally it's changed. The time has come for souls to return back to that true self. We've gone through the the gamut on the parameters of the masculine polarity and the feminine polarity. And we've learned as a human, as a rate of human beings that, you know, that's enough.

TNT SpiritWorks (23:59)
Thank you. ⁓

Dr Robin Tim So ( Acupuncture) (24:21)
That's where I would say AI is not a bad thing because AI can be the brain that can keep going and then we can just be a lot more balanced and utilizing those resources. That's how I look at it anyway. So I don't have to think too much about researching with a patient. They'll come in with their medical reports and everything and I don't have to do much. I just take pictures of it.

I put it in CHPT, I ask it to analyze it for me, and then we go through the analytical process and it does it all. don't have to even, you know, that's work that I don't really have to get involved in, you know? And I like that idea. So I utilize it to support my simple life. There we go again. You know, I like making it simple, you know? Yeah, sorry, I'm talking on a lot now.

TNT SpiritWorks (25:09)
Yeah.

No, no,

it's all good. So, you know, I guess for myself, it's interesting because lately I've really been in awe of where people are at and the experience they're having. as I listen to you talk about, you know, the challenge you went through with the cancer and how you've come out the other side and you decided to stay and then you decided how, you know, you wanted to live life more simpler and also be in a different space as you're interacting with your clients and other people around the world and and in our daily lives. Right. So

Dr Robin Tim So ( Acupuncture) (25:41)
Yes.

TNT SpiritWorks (25:42)
But I'm just filled with awe. I mean, lately, I've just been in this place where it feels so, so good just to honor everybody and where they're at. Where before, Robin, I mean, I don't know if you're like this, I would judge people. I would be like, what the hell? why are they like this? Or why are they not coming along? And now I'm like, hey, everyone's where they're at. And so it's refreshing to hear you say what you're saying. without, thank goodness, I have not.

I've been through other things in my life, but so far no cancer, just recognizing, I feel in my soul that if I'm able to understand this and to stay relaxed and to stay open and accessible to spirit and what I'm here to do the next steps, that that will enable me to, like you're saying, to be more softer as I move through the world and yet be also in the world. So does that make sense?

Dr Robin Tim So ( Acupuncture) (26:14)
Mm.

Yeah. Yeah,

yeah, absolutely. You know, we'll go back to cancer because it is a topic for me as a cancer coach now and

The first session I do with anybody that comes to me for help, I say, let's talk about why you've created this, because we first of all got to take 150 % responsibility of our life and everything we've done. And then I also ask

do you realize that you've set up an exit plan through cancer? And cancer to me now is just an exit plan. So we've got to turn that around because subconsciously, consciously, some people are really tired of the game of life. You know, it's become a burden. It's hard to compete forever. It's hard to carry that, you know, that banner.

you know, without to some degree getting tired of it. Because it's not the natural state of all of us. Our natural state is to come from simplicity, to live a life that is based on how nature operates, to live a life based on the sun comes up and you wake up and the sun goes down and you go to sleep. You know, the circadian rhythm is just a natural cycle. And so

Yeah, what I say to everybody that anybody is going through experience where you know somebody is going through experiences of cancer. And first of all, without a doubt, start to address your exit plan that you've set up. Because if you don't do that on some level, all the chemo, all the radiation, all the immunotherapy, all even the natural methods that are available, will probably

keep it at bay, but will it ever get rid of it? And I've got patients that are actually struggling to get rid of it altogether. They're in limbo. And when I hear that, I go, okay, this is perfect for what I do is to help them live and get back on to living, you know, whatever that is, and having a sense of purpose. And you know, the basis of it all.

A lot of them have trouble with a sense of purpose. It doesn't matter what age they're at. They really are just living life based on going to work and making money and thinking that that's what it's all about. And then on the weekends, they go fishing or whatever, and then they go back to it again. Like a carrot being led by a donkey being led by a carrot continually. And so you've got to stop all that. You've got to get out of that rut. You've got to get...

TNT SpiritWorks (29:22)
Thank

Dr Robin Tim So ( Acupuncture) (29:28)
back to the basics and start to look at things from a simple point of view. And then as you said, be guided to this sense of divine connection, this sense of purpose. I have to say that cancer coaching is one of my greatest sense of this desire to be of service to people because it's such a scary thing. I've got a PhD in cancer recovery now.

TNT SpiritWorks (29:55)
Right.

Dr Robin Tim So ( Acupuncture) (29:56)
I feel like I'm qualified at least. Now, you

TNT SpiritWorks (29:57)
Right.

Dr Robin Tim So ( Acupuncture) (29:59)
know, there was oncologists and doctors and even naturopaths and even acupuncturists that talked to me about the cancer and they gave me guidelines. But, I never said to them, have you had cancer? Because I don't believe that anybody can give guidance to anybody if they haven't experienced it. And I say that now with confidence, because every step of the way can

can be different to each individual, you know? And so, yeah, it's like, you know, being mindful of their great resources, which is the intellect again, their theory, their abilities to actually study and recall information. But if they haven't experienced it, they're only really just sprouting theory and statistic. And that's everybody that even in the natural health fields, you know, it is that.

TNT SpiritWorks (30:50)
Right.

Dr Robin Tim So ( Acupuncture) (30:56)
So number one rule, yeah, find a pathway to get back on the path of living, not the path of dying, and find somebody to give you guidance to ⁓ get through your cancer journey who has gone through it themselves. It's like, yeah, I didn't get it. So far I've got a gold medal. I could be

dethrone, I'm doing a PET scan, which is my 12 month and I feel really good. So I think I'm doing good. But you know, cancer is something that can, can prevail at any given moment throughout the rest of my life. I just have to live a life of discipline and a life that actually supports not going down that journey anymore. You know, that's the main thing that because there's no such thing as a cure. doesn't exist because it can happen at any given time. Again.

TNT SpiritWorks (31:29)
Mm-hmm.

Dr Robin Tim So ( Acupuncture) (31:52)
through life, lifestyle, thoughts, emotions, patterns, or whatever, just like the little dog that got run over the other day, I am doing work right now to release it because it cut deep. It definitely cut deep to watch it happen, you know? Yeah, yeah.

TNT SpiritWorks (32:10)
Yeah, I think that's a challenge that a lot of people have is going there. I mean really going there. know, mean so Absolutely. Yes, not like it's just a one-off right? like living this every day is Part of the path and and I think you know the listeners out there mean most of them will get it because that's why they listen because they understand the importance of

Dr Robin Tim So ( Acupuncture) (32:16)
Yeah, as a way of life, you know.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

Yeah.

TNT SpiritWorks (32:36)
recognizing, you know, who you are, who that unseen part of you is, the soul essence, how to work with spirit, how to work with your spiritual helpers and simplifying life to a degree where you're like, this is a game. This is a game. And how do I play this part of my game?

Dr Robin Tim So ( Acupuncture) (32:46)
Yes.

Yes.

Yeah, back 2015, I wrote a little article for my website and it was understanding the triple A and Americans actually gave me the idea of triple A awareness, awake and awaken with a three A's and awareness came from my own observations and training.

I became much more awake to the game of planet Earth. And then I realized that it was my responsibility to help awaken others, which I know you're doing the same, which is really through everything. if we're leading by some sort of example and somebody gets something out of it, and they wake up a little bit, then really that's all we can do.

You know, and so, you know, even talking to people that I've said, you know, do you want to live or you want to go? And they said, no, no, I want to live. And I can hear it in their voice. They're not committed to living. It's because they're afraid of dying, would you believe, or their family and loved ones would grieve too much. can't, I can't die because I know it would hurt them so much.

But are they living for themselves? You know, I have a daughter that I love, and I'll say probably more than myself. And I often would say that, you know, the fine line for me would be to actually be challenged in the idea that was my life or hers, you know.

But at the end of the day, I've always given therapy that there's only one parachute and you've got to take it. What are you going to do? It's like, what will you do if you're in a plane and you've got one parachute and yourself and Tom are the only people and there's only one parachute? And the pilot dies. It's like, what the hell?

TNT SpiritWorks (35:10)
Hold on to the real tight and go.

Dr Robin Tim So ( Acupuncture) (35:13)
⁓ there's a lot of truth in that. That's the best solution. I win, win, you know? And so finding a win-win is that is, is the key to it all in my mind. Yeah. So, you know, mine was to commit to becoming a cancer coach because I really wasn't sure if I was cut out for it. But, you know, I've done, I've done a number of clients this year. ⁓ mostly.

prostate cancer and one of the guys is doing good. He's got a zero per PSA, which is the signs of cancer in the prostate. And when he had the procedure two years ago, his PSA was still at a level, even though he had the procedure. Now it's negligible, doesn't even show up. So he's living much more in a place of maintenance, you know.

And so right now he's not even doing scans because they say the PSA is zero. So why would we do a scan? There's no obvious signs of cancer. ⁓ He's really a great client because he's easily coachable. Because it's challenging. It's really challenging to make some changes from your lifestyle. know? Comfy zones are definitely, yeah, comfy zones are definitely.

TNT SpiritWorks (36:26)
Absolutely. Meeting people where they're at.

Dr Robin Tim So ( Acupuncture) (36:32)
Yeah, they're challenging. And our likes and dislikes, we talk about, you you guys talk about likes and dislikes, our likes and dislikes and expectations are really key in the whole process because cancer doesn't have a likes and dislikes, it just discerns, it just acts according to itself. It doesn't have a brain as such, you know, I like you, I'm gonna not kill you or...

TNT SpiritWorks (36:35)
But it seems like, yeah. Right?

Dr Robin Tim So ( Acupuncture) (37:00)
You know, it's just striving to do what it needs to do now that it's developed in the human body. And we've got cancer cells in our body at any given time. And our immune system usually takes care of it, you know, that's, that's the key of it all. And so all we got to do is support our immune system in the most simplest, cleanest way that we know works for us. Yeah. See how it becomes really not, not a complex issue anyway, but you know,

TNT SpiritWorks (37:03)
Mm-hmm. Right.

Dr Robin Tim So ( Acupuncture) (37:29)
The cancer industry is very, very complex and they make it very complex and they make it very confusing because they've become confused about it in my mind. I don't think they go out deliberately to hurt people. ⁓ I think they've just made it very complex and confusing that then now they come across that way. Oncologists are really the worst people to talk to in my mind. I have trouble talking to them because they don't...

They don't put one plus one equals two together. And they always talk in a way that they have to cover themselves from saying something that is not necessarily, ⁓ you know, it can have recourse. They can be sued in America. A lot of doctors get sued, you know, because they said the wrong thing at the wrong time. And they didn't say it in the right way. They covered their back, you know.

And so that's that complexity that I said that exists out there and people are just walking on eggshells every day of their life to try and get through it, you know? Yeah.

TNT SpiritWorks (38:31)
Yeah, and then if they're not awake

to another option like, you know, the spiritual side or alternative healings, and then it's, it's just that way. And, you know, I look at people too and go, everyone has got a path. So what works for you, Robin, may not work for someone else and works for them. But there's, I think that's exciting part about this conversation is that there are other options and knowing that that simplicity that people can bring into their life, whether it's

Dr Robin Tim So ( Acupuncture) (38:45)
Hmm.

TNT SpiritWorks (38:57)
for a healing capacity or whether it's for something else they're doing that they want to just shift things to a certain, to a different degree where maybe now they're more relaxed and they're really enjoying life and they have more enthusiasm is an exciting aspect.

Dr Robin Tim So ( Acupuncture) (39:11)
Yeah, yeah, I agree wholeheartedly. Yeah, I agree wholeheartedly. And I've always said, you know, but they talk about, you know, how the negative side of society and big pharma and medication and everything, and I've never ever really agreed with it.

I mean, I've met doctors and oncologists and they're just human beings like you and me. You know, they're genuine human beings that are trained in a way that is their training, you know. I think they're sometimes misled based on their indoctrination. And I find it difficult that they can't think outside their own indoctrination. They're not allowed to or they don't have a capacity to think laterally, you know.

And that's the part that I find really interesting about some people, know, they just can't fathom the possibility that you have a dream and it could be telling you something, you know. It's like, no, it's just nothing, you know. I just had a dream. What are you talking about?

TNT SpiritWorks (40:14)
or like a feeling in

your body, right? Like I was with someone the other day who's like you and I who understands a lot of stuff. And she's like, you know, my hamstrings really been bothering me. goes, what is this telling me spiritually? And she was like diving into it a bit, right? So everything you can find an answer for all kinds of things within us and our bodies and our realms. it's just listening, trusting, surrendering to there's more than just what's in a book and what people are telling me at the doctor's office.

Dr Robin Tim So ( Acupuncture) (40:18)
Absolutely.

Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, you're now stimulating my love and my passion is to find that needle in the haystack when a patient comes in and they've got a lower back problem and this and I talk about the history and then I take pulses and I find out that they're not listening to what they need to do and they're following all their...

once in the, the, the caught up in survival and go, well, there it is. You've got a lot of tension in your lower back and that's why you've got back pain, you know? And so that's just understanding how energy works and the chakras, which you, you understand really well. And, and the work that we do and, and Tom does and Tiger does, yeah, it's all related to understanding the body on

on a much deeper awareness, which is really what we're talking about awareness and then waking up people to that idea is possible. It's not voodoo. It's not woo woo at all. You know, back when I was very young and we talking about psychic was like, woo, that's pretty well woo woo stuff. Now it's easy. You know, everybody knows that there's something going on apart from what's logical. You know, yeah.

TNT SpiritWorks (41:53)
Absolutely. if one so final word on back full circle to simplicity Robin. So what is one thing you'd like to leave the listeners with as far as simplifying their life right now where they're at?

Dr Robin Tim So ( Acupuncture) (42:06)
Don't be fearful. When you get a diagnosis or you're fearful in life, just take one step at a time. Come back to that simplicity. You know, if you look at an animal that's in the jungle and there's any given moment a bigger animal can come down and sweep on it because it wants to eat it and survive, then that little animal is sort of like looking around, looking up, looking down.

You know, it's scurrying and so it's aware of something that maybe could hurt it. And so really, it's the same with us as human beings. We have a sixth sense that can give us insight into something, you know. ⁓ Back in my day, I remember almost I remember dropping a kitchen knife and having the capacity to just move my foot out of the way without even thinking about it. ⁓

I thought it was back then it was my reflexes I was pretty sharp, but no, it wasn't. It was actually my sixth sense that guided my foot not to get stabbed by this knife that I was dropping. And so it is that process when you're in the now in that moment and you're taking life one step at a time and you're not fearful, like I've been given a diagnosis, that's what they say it is.

This is my statistics. This is the statistic, but I'm not necessarily a statistic because I'm an individual. You have to have that capacity to say, well, I'm an individual. And then you go, okay, well, one step at a time. What's the best step that I can take? And you may not get it straight away. Okay. I need to talk to people. need to research. need to make a few phone calls. I need to reach out to Robin because Robin will talk freely. I do a 30 minute zoom call to anybody that's

wants to, I don't charge anything because I believe it's just about, you know, guiding them a little bit. And then if I really want to go into the depth of the work that I do, then we do it from my, from a coaching point of view. And that's usually a six month program that I lock people into because, you know, it takes that long to go through the whole dilemma of recovery. I mean, mine was four years. So, you know, yeah. Yeah.

TNT SpiritWorks (44:25)
Right, right. And

I know that we'll have all the links down below as to where people can get in touch with you and connect with you. And I know you're also on the Gold Coast, but you, like you said earlier in this recording that you do work with people all over the world.

Dr Robin Tim So ( Acupuncture) (44:39)
Yeah, yeah, it's well, that's the beauty of technology. That's the beauty of the adversity of all this technology and everything that's on the planet. You know, we can be scared of chat GPT and AI, but.

TNT SpiritWorks (44:43)
Love it.

Dr Robin Tim So ( Acupuncture) (44:54)
Yeah, man.

TNT SpiritWorks (44:54)
It's been a lot of good stuff from it for sure, right? Yeah.

Dr Robin Tim So ( Acupuncture) (44:57)
Absolutely.

Yeah. And one day there might cure that might have a cure for all this and we no longer have disease. And what else can we do apart from following our spirit and doing what's what we're freely comfortable doing because we don't have to worry about survival anymore. We don't have to worry about fixing things up. We don't have to worry about that. You know, it's a blissful life that we could have. You know, the other thing is that we're meant to live to 120.

TNT SpiritWorks (45:17)
Right, right.

Dr Robin Tim So ( Acupuncture) (45:28)
our telemeters. I have this idea now that I want to live to 120. Why not? And the truth of the matter is, if you can survive past 2030, it's very possible that AI will be supporting the body to live to 120. And we can, you know, recalibrate, regenerate our system, because the natural default, which is the simple pathway, is to heal ourselves. Right? You cut your finger and you don't have to think I've got a

TNT SpiritWorks (45:54)
Yes.

Dr Robin Tim So ( Acupuncture) (45:58)
I've got to heal my finger. You just put a band-aid on not to stop infection and then it heals itself by itself. And a couple of days later, take the band-aid off and it's all sealed up. He came along and joined all that skin together. The body did it itself, you know? And so that's the simple part and the simple realization that our body does have that capacity to self-heal. Yeah. We just got to give it the right support mentally.

TNT SpiritWorks (46:14)
Yeah, beautiful.

Absolutely.

Dr Robin Tim So ( Acupuncture) (46:27)
physically, spiritually, and to a great degree, have a sense of purpose. I always come back to sense of purpose because existing is a waste of time as well. Just to exist, and I'm happy existing doesn't really work. I've tried it. I've tried it. It doesn't work, you know?

TNT SpiritWorks (46:50)
Yeah, for sure. Well, thank you so much for coming on today. I so appreciate it. And like I said, I don't do too many interviews these days, but it's refreshing to have ⁓ someone like you come on and, know, like-minded, you know, soul brother to share with the listeners out there a different way of healing, especially through the journey of cancer. So thank you so much.

Dr Robin Tim So ( Acupuncture) (46:51)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Thank you. Thank you, Theresa. Yeah, my pleasure.

TNT SpiritWorks (47:12)
And thank you all for listening

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