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So revealing the next layers of the onion and giving some hope to what is going on in the world. That's where we're at. I love it. I love it. We've got some perfect stories, some good stories for this week here on spiritual perspectives. That's right. So I know before we started, we, know, in our green room, we kind of talked about a few things and one word that came up was pandemonium. Yeah, I mean, to me, we were just talking about this is it's never any pandemics.

That's the real bad bit. Because you can do something about it. It's the pandemonium that comes off of stuff. And I think everything we're going to be talking about today has a version of that. Absolutely. And it's interesting because last week we were talking, I mentioned how astrologically and Tom pooh-poohed astrology. But hey. I was just saying personal experience. You're like whatever. I always like hearing about it.

You know, it's interesting, right? And I mean, there are there are things that line up. But anyway, and after our conversation last week where I mentioned about it was the same time frame of covid, I saw and sent you guys a report that I found that was saying there was there was some kind of thing going on in China that might turn into some type of kind of like a covid situation again. And that's where I came up with the old the pandemonium. That's what's really about is stirring the pandemonium within us. That's it.

That's exactly what it is. All the stories that we've been brought to go through do have that common denominator where it just takes a little bit of spark to get involved in my likes and dislikes, my emotions. And all of sudden here it comes. Like I'm just, my intellect will get tuned for everything. I'll look at everything and start the lens will be colored now with everything I view because I've got that turned on.

Yeah, it seems like, our brains are wired for survival. So fears, you know, can stimulate us a lot easier than that wonderful, calm, cool, collected feelings. And it's there for a reason, I guess, as a spiritual being in this skin suit that's really driving the whole thing is, you know, I have that opportunity to just tune into what is

you know, the spiritual truth or the bigger picture, you know, don't even want to like, I find myself reluctant to say the spiritual truth. I'm just saying the fact that I'm a soul in a physical body, that I'm energy, that I'm eternal, and I'm driving this body, which I have a feeling for that, but in what ways do I get tripped up to just get sucked right back down into the physical aspects of my existence rather than keeping a balance with the

bigger picture, spiritual side, that kind of thing. Yeah, I mean, as an example of that, I agree completely as an example of that. And for everybody listening to like in the United States, they've got all this ice situation going on, right? The the immigration enforcement. And it's a pretty big hot topic that politicians have grabbed on to left, right center, you bet. But it

It is an example where now they're highlighting that they've got ICE agents in the Olympics in Italy, because they're doing the Winter Olympics. And so now there's like, what? We're bringing US ICE agents to the Olympics. And if you just read it on its face, I get worked up. Why are our people there for that, this Olympics?

And then you go and just take a layered back. Okay, let me settle down. Let me find out what the facts are. Right. Facts keep confusion out. Confusion keeps the facts out. If I just go find out what the facts are, they've been having those, those kinds of agents there for many, for many Olympics. doesn't have to do with border. has to do with the interaction with certain criminals and

things like that when it comes to dignitaries and it's a whole different animal and they've been doing it the whole time. boy, now it's going to get all twisted and then here comes the pandemonium about something that, okay, that's what we do normally, you know? Yeah. It seems that there is a another, like you're saying, another layer of this because of the fact that since it's like we send the guard into places or we send the other

you know agents or whatever that are needed in specific places especially for security because security is a big deal and especially at the Olympics and because I know that was one of the things that we're mentioning about was the security and the safety of the people who are attending as well as the athletes which is always a big deal especially in other countries and but there's a lot of protests going on in Italy too so for me it seems like it's that energy that's just swirling around yeah

So it's been in Minnesota. was this weekend. It was in L.A. and it's been other cities. And now it's over in Italy. Like it's just it's like tornadoes everywhere. It's like the energy is very tornadic. that a word tornadic? It is now. is now. Damn it. And so how do we work with that? So for myself, how do I find that these little fusions of energy are like going off where I'm, know, to get my attention? Really, that's what it's about.

Yeah, and I look at the, you know, the key word that we have in the Wayshowers philosophy is immortality for the month of February. Right. So as we talk about these news stories and what's happening in the world, I ask myself, so what does immortality have to do with that? And I can't go to my intellect right away. I have to get a feeling.

I have to tune into my inner sensitivity or inner wisdom as a soul, which feels like to me is a whole part of why I'm here is to help expand my energies awareness. So we call that spiritual because we don't see it as such a physical thing. I don't know if you're on the other side, you probably see it more as a real thing, you know, more physically. So. ⁓

Immortality, what does that have to do with all this? I know one thing is if I'm addicted to moral issues, and the rights and wrongs, and I know this is going to shock some people when I say that, know, what's going to what? There's, there's no such thing as right and wrong. Well, the soul grows and one way or another, they're going to move through experiences and they're going to learn from it. Now,

I still need to have an organized society. have boundaries. So there's an aspect of, you know, moral issues, but to what extent is it, is it attracting my attention away from what I'm really here to do in the moment? Well, I mean, just to carry that on, right? The immortality and the moral issues and all that, like,

The other thing that's connected we talked about the Olympics and the ice But then now we've got this next round of the Epstein files things which is like a big thing in America, you know, this is Sarah Ferguson and I mean, it's like yeah, they had the Royals and so it affects a lot of people and so now they dumped a bunch another

X amount of papers, know, the millions of pages and Congress is going to be looking at it on Monday, getting more of the unredacted stuff. ⁓ But then there's this now we're getting like other names coming up. Right. And it's very easy even for me to start getting in like immediately the moment if someone's on the list, they must be some bad ombre. Right. Or they're they're somehow bad.

And again, without the facts, without getting into the stuff, it's like, wait a minute, wait a minute. I'm going off on a tear. I'm in essence, I'm losing my immortality because I'm starting to ground myself with this stuff that only belongs here. I can't take any of that with me. Right. And as a matter of fact, if I start to get caught up in this too much, I'm going to get confused.

And if I get confused and I pass on in that state, I'm not going very far, right? Cause like attracts like. So that's the key for me to come back. Wait a minute. Let me get the facts. Let me relax. Let me move. If I'm going to get into this, let me get at least to get the facts of it in a neutral relaxed way. And then I can evaluate where I need to be within it. Otherwise I'm going to get all sucked up into something that's has no value to what I'm building.

Or I can't even help people because I'm all caught up in the moral issue. Yeah, the key word that comes to me about all this is consistency. Yeah. In working with the spiritual part of myself and the importance of understanding, like you're mentioning, Tom, like, you know, who you are as a soul. you know, we've got guidance and we were, you know, really a spiritual being in a, you know, physical body and, and recognizing that when I stay consistent with, you know, who I am and what I believe in.

and also my, say, my spiritual thrust, which my thrust is the fall through of my heart's desires, then I can move through the pandemonium and all the stuff going on around me and really be able to get to the next step. And I think that's the important thing right now, especially if we're talking about like layers and removing, you know, those layers, it's consistent, right? Like, you know, how do I move through the next thing? And it's that way in everyday life too.

Some people have, you know, jobs. I'm very grateful. I love my job and I'm but there's layers to it. Like ever I go in each week and there's a new layer or I'm working with billing managers and some are more or more challenging than others. And matter of fact, it's funny. I was talking to one this morning when I was working and he's you know, I do invoicing. He's like, I said, hey, you know, get your invoicing in. It's easy. He goes, why am I easy? And I said, it all goes back to energy. I said, each person, depending upon who they are, that reflects into what they do.

And this is the same like the stories we're sharing. Like if we're talking about Epstein or Iran or whatever, like it's the energy in those areas or the energy behind the person, of course Epstein's gone, but there's still energy there to that what's going on. Then that flows into what they do. So when I'm working with someone that's an A type personality, who's highly strung and really stressed out, man, their invoicing is hard. I'm just saying it is.

It's very challenging as it does everything for myself to stay relaxed when I'm in that situation. And so when I recognize that if I can stay relaxed and that's how I can work with like all these stories that come at me and I can feel all this stuff going on or what's happening. Does that make sense? Oh, yeah. I got something to say about that. Keep going. That's good. Go ahead, Tom. Well, you we talk about what we believe in and we talk about getting the facts. And for me, I have to start with what am I?

feeling like when I'm relaxed and calm and in a positive frame of mind, what is my sensitivity pick up? find that as I'm getting older, in fact, a colleague of ours was talking to Paul last night and he was saying, geez, you know, as I get older, it's like my sensitivity is just magnified like back like when I was a child. And I said, it's funny you say that this week because I've been aware of that too, that

I was picking up some thoughts and feelings from somebody in my environment at work because they'd recently left. And it was like, I noticed that day they left, I wasn't thinking that way. So I must have a little something there, a little insecurity there for me to attract that or buy into it. But I noticed that there wasn't as much pressure around that area. So the fact that I'm energy and ⁓ you know, that I can pick up thoughts, I do pick up thoughts and feelings.

So how do I work with that, you know, not from a sensational point of view, but just how do I make my life, how do I navigate through my life so that it's smoother, easier by just trusting myself? And I think I'll come back to the almost quick answer of, know, when I tuned into a couple of the stories that we were talking about, when I take a moment to relax and tune into it, if I can bypass the

moral issues or the entertainment of like, my God, look at, look at what Prince Andrew and Fergie were up to. Whoa, you know, and, you know, because that's what it titillates in a way or in a sense that it stimulates us to want to know the inside goss or the scoop. And that can be a real decoy from, you know, what I'm here to do now. It's important for me to be informed. So I've got to come back to my book, my

feelings is got to be part of that. My inner sensitivity and I wanted to bring that up because ⁓ you know what what is I have to ask myself and I would ask the listeners well what is your what is your impression of some of these stories to what extent is it true like we bring up the ice situation and right away if I relax I go

I know better than that. I know that there's something else happening. And then I love to always get the facts of these situations and go, oh yeah, well, there you go. Yeah. The, this is going to lead us into another story as well. But, you know, just a couple of days ago, um, I living on a, and working on a conference center in one of these places where, you know, we do this work and things like that. And people get trained, you know, having

lots of interesting things happening. And just recently there was a ⁓ sewer line that had a problem and it broke. And so I had to get in there and clean it up and fix it and stuff like that. And so to get to it was this, it was difficult to get to. It was like a very small place and you had to crawl. It's underneath a building. There's not a whole lot of room to crawl in there. It's dirty.

It's ⁓ dank. It's cobwebs everywhere. I mean, you know, the whole thing. And where I was going with this story is just that initially I was staring with the flash on looking down because looking down there's a the floor we pulled up to look at it. And, you know, just this little bit of sewer there on the on the ground, you know, the sewage there. And I could already hear the chatter.

building up in my head, right? Complaining, not wanting to do it, the whole thing. I had to do it. There was not not doing it. You got to go do it. And my guidance gave me a keyword of adjust. That was the keyword they suggested for me. said, all right, well, I don't know what the hell that means, but adjust. So anyway, I got down, started getting down in there. I could just hear the complaining and the bitching start in my head, right? And my energy dropped. I could just like, I got no.

energy to do this. I'm kind of going through the motions and then I just I caught it. said, no, I'm going to do this thing. I'm to put that thoughts aside. Right. And later on, I figured out, that's what my guidance were trying to say. Adjust, adjust. Now I'm not going to do that. OK. And then it came back again. No, I'm not going to do that. And I get back to what I was doing. And then within about five, 10 minutes of this little ping pong game going on in my head, all of that quieted down.

And I got back to what I was doing. And the irony is that here I am working with sewer pipes and I came out feeling fulfilled. I felt good from doing the work. I felt tired, but I felt good. wasn't thinking like, oh, this was a terrible job. And I felt good. I felt like a sense of accomplishment. I got it done. And going to your point is how often do sensitive people or people who are aware of their environment

get caught up in everything going around them and don't do anything about it. I'm the one in charge of my energy. I'm the one in charge of my thoughts. And if I just reassert myself, doesn't take it. There's not this big bow. That's the big thing is that I'm supposed to have some kind of argument with my intellect or argument with thoughts. There's no argument. There's what I'm going to do.

And I, and am I going to still hear some chatter if I'm used to that? Yeah. I'm to hear some chatter for a little bit, but there's no argument. And that's that. Does that make sense? Absolutely. Yeah. Before I talk about the next story. Cause that, that was the, just how, if I'm alert to my energy, if I'm alert to the environment, how quickly all that comes in. And if I don't do something about it, that whole thing that we talk about, we talk about this in the, in the membership.

that people can regroup every month. I'm either part of the solution or I'm part of the pollution. And if I let that get a hold of me, I'm part of the pollution. Yeah. And for myself, what comes up about this is that this is really why we're doing what we do is to make people more aware and to really regroup and recognize the importance of understanding that it starts with them. That's right. All these stories out in the world.

they stimulate our fears, our concepts, the chaos that we might be experiencing or triggers. Matter of I had one the other day at work too, where someone came in and said something to me and I clearly had something that triggered me and it triggered me and I said something and I was like, my God, I have a piece of that within me. So this is something too with all these stories like, you know,

What piece of something that is that, you how does that stimulate me from my past or what, you know, what I've been through and recognizing, but it all starts with me. It all starts with my energy and how, how am I keeping my energy intact? How am I working with, you know, where I'm at energetically as I'm listening to all these outer forces trying to throw me off my pivot. Immortality. So when I tuned back into that

fact that truth that my energy is immortal and I am now I always have been and I always will be there's something calming that always feels I feel you know when I say that or I tune back into that if I allow myself to and so and then then even you know my understanding says even my intellectual nature will go well if I'm immortal what's the big deal you know right away

I can relax, but I'm enthused and excited about the opportunity to navigate through these learning experiences or the environment like you're sharing with your plumbing episode. You know, it's like, okay, that didn't get me down. I, I'm aware of being limited physically, but I, you I want to project my energy of how I want to feel. So for me, that must be.

I feel like that's part of the whole spiritual growth and mastery, that if I can do that here, that's, I'm going to expand my, you know, peaceful, loving, accomplishing, healing nature and grow, you know, I don't even know where it leads, I must say. ⁓

Enlightenment or ascension or whatever those cool words are. I just have a feeling it would be I'm on the right track. Yeah, and these stories are Areas that we get can get triggered can have things pop up and so that's really it's a good indication of where you are at energetically It tells me exactly where I'm at by how I get stimulated and and so the other The other point there like here's if they're if we're clip this here's a good part, right?

If I do something for the first or second time, I can get emotional about it. Let's say I'm going to drive for the first time. I'm going to go out with somebody for the first time or something like, I'm all stimulated. But if I do that same activity a thousand times, I get into my car a thousand times and go drive to the work a thousand times, how I feel about it and how I work with it and how my energy is, how I'm

working in my beingness is completely different than how I was at the beginning. And yet it's the same activity and the same thing is being accomplished. To me, that is indicative of my evolution. And, and if I can just relax and know that that's the bigger picture for me here, then I'm going to be a lot freer. It doesn't mean that I'm not going to have

you know, little, you know, bubbles going on in my tummy when I do something sometimes, but I relax through it as opposed to thinking everything's going to come apart.

Yeah, for me, I come back to those memberships that we offer where they have the home study. And I was reviewing this month's materials. And it talked about, for me to really take a look at the five things, I read a little excerpt about being possessive and you can't take anything with you and some beautiful language that seems to really get across the feeling and clarity of the truth for me.

And I mean, I relate to it. ⁓ So I was asked to list five areas I'm possessive of in my life. And, you know, at my age, I'm like, well, I've been doing this work for there's there's a little I'm pretty cool. I'm not, you know, possessive. And and but as I reflected with my guidance, I noticed there were things that I still like to hold on to, you know, and sometimes it's just ⁓

getting, you know, I'm still possessive about being diverted off what I need to be doing in the moment. you know, that's, that's like, ⁓ I don't know, maybe people aren't really all not everybody's ready to take a look at that. But ⁓ what we offer is an opportunity for those who are spiritually minded, I might say to now let's here's a chance to work closer with your guidance, you're going to do it one way or another.

and it may take lifetimes or you can refine that process by tuning into Spirit has backed planet Earth. ⁓ you know, in the 40 something years I've been involved, I've really watched the, you know, the evolution just from, say, the 1980s till now or the 1970s till now. So here's a chance to work with some materials where we really do, as I said last week, get, you know, messages from Spirit.

But I have to tune into it and I have to take a clear look at it. You gotta do the work. I gotta show up. Show up. I wouldn't even call it work, I'd just say it's a little bit of effort. It's a little bit of pinning it down, becoming aware. And I found that I've got time, I can be patient with myself. mean, some of the things that we run into, we've run into time and time again, but it doesn't have a hold on me like it used to.

Yeah, it's about an awareness and that's kind of like with these stories we talk about every week. So, you know, we bring them up so that way we can have an awareness of how am I feeling when I hear that story or that's going on in the world or that group over there is protesting and there's thousands of them and how am I feeling? And it's interesting what you mentioned a minute ago, Tiger, about the first time we do something and then how it changes you feel differently. So.

When I started going to work back in 20, fall of 2024, literally every day for maybe a first week or two, I could feel all the energy of all the souls going in together and it felt so good. Like on the freeway, right? We're all one going, I'm like, yeah, we're all going for a perp. I could feel it like it was inside of me. And so I don't feel it as much these days, but once in a while I'll tune into that because it was so new and it was so exciting and vibrant. And but like, and you know, now I try not to feel the person that's

speeding up behind me and going around me like an asshole. So I try now not to feel that anymore. it's interesting that that's what I feel about the awareness of, like you're saying, Tom, about how to work with your spiritual helpers, how to be in tune with the energy of the month that we're all experiencing, because it shifts and changes every single month. It's not the same feeling. Yeah, I think when people get frustrated with the things that are happening on planet Earth, you know,

like the stories that we're talking about. ICE, Iran, had somebody, we had Epstein, you know. So we had somebody comment on one of our YouTube videos, you know, but that there's one of our followers said, you know, and that there's been thousands of people that have been executed in Iran, you know, for protesting. And ⁓ I guess the reason that I bring that up is that that appears to be, you know, true in the numbers. I'm not

absolutely clear on. So, you know, these stories, there's, in some ways, there's nothing new about it. It's just different players. Same thing with Epstein. There's always been rich people or wealthy people that have probably pushed it a little too far or, you know, who knows what, right? Like, and everybody's having, learning something about being involved in that.

But we do need a society where we can live and let live. So we look to organize ourselves with boundaries and with the rules and regulations and morals and mores so that we can learn and grow so that I can respect you, you can respect me, and we have as much freedom as we can muster. there's concept. Or hell. I like that. That's good. Because lot of people don't want to accept that I'm free, that they're free.

I'd rather be in bondage. I'd rather be hurting. I'd rather be, ⁓ in pain and angst with my brothers and sisters. we're all together. On that point there, this is really good on that point there. sounds silly. It's sad. If we were just having a relaxed conversation, it sounds silly that my, someone that I know is going to choose bondage over freedom, choose problems over happiness. And yet.

It's so easy to get into because society glorifies that kind of stuff and pooh-poohs the just being happy. It's amazing. It's also that charge. Yes. That's what we get from these emotional charge. The Iran, the ice, the Epstein, it's a charge. And so that charge keeps people keeps them back coming back to it. It's like the I can't get enough of it. Like overeating, whether you're for it or against it. You know, ⁓

It's an addiction. what, what did they, who was naughty? You know, that's really a part of it. look at the, see, I knew those rich people were just essentially, know, whatever relates or, ⁓ let's, let's take, ⁓ you know, immigration and ICE and so forth. Like there's people that go good on them. ICE is getting those folks and getting them out of here and they're, know, and if there's an emotional charge there. Hmm.

You know, that's something to look at, you know, and then there's other folks are like, my God, what are they doing to these poor people? You know, and I think when I tune into things spiritually, I'm not going to change any of those folks, you know, they're going to have that they're going to live through those emotional charges as long until they get tired of it until they want to start focusing on their personal direction. Well, you can't take any of that with you. And they also set it up.

Yeah. Like they've set up the situations for them to go through and for growth and learning, right? Yeah, there are. can turn off the TV if you want. And also the people involved, you know, they were like you were saying, there's certain people. That's one thing I kind of realized when I lived overseas and traveled was that, wow, not everybody wants certain liberties and certain freedoms. You know, it's they we assume, you know, I mean, that's one of those issues that we're

beginning to learn about that, you we can't just change people. that's where live and let live comes in, because I'm sure everyone listening to this, and certainly in myself and all of you, we know people who have their limitations, and they protect those limitations, they grab on to those limitations. If you try to take those limitations away, they'll fight you. They to being a victim. Yeah, they the victim thing is one of them or

the thing that is connected to tragedy as an addiction, whatever it is, the complaining, the bitching, or constantly being letting myself go into poverty or constantly letting myself get into a bad relationship. All those, that's like, that's a syndrome that can just be there. And why I brought up the live and let live thing, that's about, that's part of immortality, right? The part of that live and let live thing is accepting them for where they're at.

And then being a person because I'm accepting them, I can inspire and put my hand out if they want it. I have, if you want another way, I can offer it to you, right? But I can't change you because the moment I try to get into that, like I'm going to save you, I'm going to fix you. I'm going to receive pushback because it's what they know. It's their security blanket.

And it sounds crazy, right? It's like, oh no, wait, give me this great situation so I can get rid of this bad situation. And it's true. You get into that initially, but the moment you do have the good situation, you start floating back and the same old habits start attracting the old thing again. So the best thing I can do is accept people as they are and then inspire, show the way. And then if there is, and this is what your point is, if there's any spot in me,

that I know I have an addiction, that I know I get caught up in bitching and in the confusion. That's something for me to make a goal. Okay. What do I do about that? Are you talking about being a way shower tiger? A way shower. ⁓ I have found that so true in my life in the sense that when I was trying to change people or, you know, hey, do what I'm doing because it's freaking awesome. And it is. It is. You're so right.

It didn't quite work. no. So accepting people where they're at is a really positive thing. And and even like looking at the world, you know, the world things we're talking about in different areas, accepting that, you know, there are certain people working with certain people in those areas to try to make shifts and changes. And like the Iran thing, we didn't even bring up the fact that, you know, I think it was today they told all the Americans to get out of Iran. Yes. Yeah, that's big.

So now you're bringing up something that I wanted to share about and it's going to relate to our final story when we get to that. Okay. Our good news story in that they're all good news. If I ask, that's an excellent point. It's just news. You know, there is no good or bad news. It's just news. So ⁓ to what extent I've often noted that if I really

sincerely ask myself how I feel about something, what's my sensitivity picking up, I can predict where things are going to go with it. so while we're on that, you know, sensitivity, I'd say, I have to ask myself once in a while, you know, well, if you really ask me, what do I really feel the outcome is going to be? What do I really, where's the energy moving towards? And then I've had enough wins, you might say, or

where that's played out that I really trust myself. Have you ever had that happen? yeah. yeah. It's, I guess it takes all the emotional angst away, you know, because I know eventually things are going to play out a certain way. So here's one of the complaints you might have about the Epstein files. It's like, God, will this ever go away? But what's interesting is people are sensitive.

And they, you know, there's certain people that have kept bringing it up and, ⁓ some people, some sites say, the motives, know, they're just trying to, you know, divert and, and in a sense that's true. But on the other hand, there's enough people that feel like there's, there needs to be something exposed. Their sensitivity is not letting go of it. And what's interesting is this week we're starting to find out, you know, that

I mean, it's no shock to me that Royals are no greater than or lesser than any of us. you know, ⁓ I don't even, don't even, yeah, I don't even need mean to pick on them. I mean, they're just people going through their experience and I'm sure they have some wonderful, ⁓ you know, things that they bring to the table and bring to life, but none of this is a surprise or shock to me because so why, you know, so

but that's where the juice is like, The stimulation. Yeah. So let's talk about something positive. Yeah. I mean, not like this is not not positive in itself because it really is. So, OK, I'll get to this next story. All right. So the last story that we wanted to talk about was that I happened to catch in Australia that there was this family that went to the beach recently.

and a mother and three children. And they're various ages. think when the girl was the youngest and then the oldest boy was like 13. And ⁓ I think the other son was somewhere in the middle. So they all had kayaks and I guess mom and daughter got kind of ⁓ out there. You know, the water took them out and they were having trouble, maybe lost an oar. They were having trouble with their boat. So one of the sons came out.

to try to help and then he lost an oar and he had some, you know, some things to go through. And then I guess another son came out and then his kayak kept flooding and you know, it was, it was kind of a mess. So ⁓ the short version, ⁓ and this is all over in the news. If you Google it, you'll find a story is that the mom made a choice. She says, listen, a 13 year old son, you're a good swimmer swim into the shore.

and get us help because we're in a sticky situation. And of course she talks about how, my God, did I do the right thing? And so this young guy, he swims four kilometers over a mile and a half or so, ⁓ as I read if you do the commercial. Anyways, four kilometers back to shore and get some help and they're saved. And what a beautiful story.

For me, for a couple of points of view, there's so much these days with young people not thinking young people are capable. When I was in Scouts as a kid, the whole point was to become capable and save people. But they had training for us and it was a beautiful thing, this self-reliance and confidence. those are the basic facts of the story.

And I don't know if I should add one more thing to it. Okay, the final thing is, is the kids being interviewed by Channel 7 News in Australia. And so they get the mom to tell her part of the story and then they interview her son. And he says, you know, when I came to the beach that day, when we came up, I had this feeling something was going to, or words of that effect, something wasn't right.

Something was going to go, you know, and I thought to myself, wow, how many times do people get that feeling that something's off? And, know, many people will leave it at that. They'll just go, ⁓ see a sense of foreboding, you know, and, ⁓ and then they just stop. Okay. What were you picking up? And this is something we can practice every, what was I picking up?

and why didn't I pin it down? And that's where my spiritual helpers can really help me pinpoint those impressions I get. Yeah, what a nice story, Tom. Yeah. And ⁓ the thing that pops in our mind about this story is usually there's, well, there's always support. And so when support like this, one of the sons is a good swimmer. So the offer is to him, which can be for anything, is are you are you ready to step into this? Yeah.

Are you ready to show up and actually do what you need to do? Or are you going to move back and say, no, I can't do it. So that's what it comes. That's what kind of comes to me about that is just the, ⁓ that the ability that there's always support there and how to work with it. Yeah, I agree with that's the, the attack I would take as well. The, the amount of support and backing that this young man had, ⁓ and

certainly the guidance that was there from the beginning even before they got into trouble. Yeah, right. ⁓ And there's like other story to this too. Like if you drill down into the story that you read, it's pretty cool. Like he started swimming, and then the life jacket he had on wasn't helping him. So he ditched the life jacket, he just swam free. He didn't have any life jacket. And then he got to the beach and he nearly collapsed.

And he had that feeling just get up and go. So he got up and he ran another 2K to go find the phone. But anyway, the point is, that ⁓ I always have backing. And this is another example of, you know, and a child shall lead them. You know, there's so much innocence there that there's no, he doesn't have enough experience in life.

to stop because he's that afraid of what could happen. Yeah, he's probably afraid, but he's going to go do it because he sees his mom and his brother and his sister. Okay, this is what I got to go do. There's no back talking. There's no, there's none of that. And that's, to me, that's what it's all about, about ⁓ move by wisdom, live childlike. That's the phrase that I need to tattoo.

on myself inside move by wisdom, live childlike because that power is always there. And I can't keep Molly coddling myself. have to make a decision. And that is the distinction between immaturity and maturity. The moment I make a decision, I'm stepping into maturity. I'm stepping into the power that I have.

And this young man, somehow, you know, long as he keeps it going, he's going to be dynamic. If he just keeps that energy going his whole life, it would be live a whole life apart to just listen and follow through and amazing what we're capable of. Yeah, his, ⁓ his natural inclination from, you know, from the spiritual perspective, I'll say that soul that incarnated has experience.

and he followed through on that experience, he had enough wisdom and insight and experience that he could make it through, you know, that he wasn't going to allow himself to, you know, not succeed. And there was a lot of motivation there too. So there's that motivation, inner outer motivation. If I don't, we may all die. That's right. All right, guys. Well, my sensitivity says it's time to start wrapping this up. All right.

So what's the we always talk about the commonality of you know, the energy of right now what we're what we're in we're in the month of immortality and so, you know, what what do you what are your takes on this week's stories? Well, I think that the you know, the the message that I find myself in, you know, can be powerful or learning experiences if I notice certain habit patterns that I keep experiencing over time, you know, and if I

sense of solution, you I know what the solution is and it comes from me a few different angles and I just need to implement it. Trust my sensitivity. And I think my final thought was earlier we were, you know, cleansing our environment, which is ⁓ one of the tools and techniques that we work with, that we've learned to work with. And I really tuned into that, you know, most people are doing fine. They're okay. I mean, they have their little dramas and like we all do and

But overall, ⁓ it's easy to forget that with the way the media and the stories that are sold to us every day to keep our attention. Yeah, the word that's going to come back to me is revealing. So, revealing the next layer of the onion for myself and my spiritual part. so, recognizing that as we go through and we hear these stories that are outside of what's going on in my immediate family or my work.

It just gives me a new layer of recognizing how am I showing up? How am I being seen? How am I, you know, accessing my spiritual helpers to actually do what I've come to do and versus getting involved in, you know, all the complaining, bitching stories and et cetera that's going on out in the world. Like I said, in my immediate place as well as further out. that's what I'm really.

Taken away from this is just it's a nice revealing week of the next layer of mice of my soul and what I need to do while I'm here Yeah, so some of the common denominators for me really have to do with minding my business ⁓ Getting the facts Right not letting myself get played in that I may have my preferences of one side or another side I may have my likes and dislikes of

how I would want things to be. if I don't come back home to the facts and start there, then I'm going to think I'm involved in something good when how I actually feel is not responding. It's that whole thing of trying to drive a car when you haven't turned on the engine.

really has to do with coming back home to the facts, really going from that place, knowing what I want and what I don't want and what I need. And the final component of that, I would say, is what's my part? What's my part? My part is to move forward in my happiness, my success and my abundance. That's my part.

And then the rest of it is I need to be clear to the universe or God or whatever you want to call that with what I need and want and let it go. Right. I just need to do my part. If I try to figure everything out or I hear I'm bitching and complaining about whatever's going on, I'm involved in someone else's part. That's not my part. I can't even do that part effectively anyway. So why don't I just do my part, be successful.

be happy and enjoy my way and then I can start slowly opening up all that freedom that's available to me. All right, so that's a great place to end and we talked a bit about trusting, trusting in our spiritual part, trusting in our guidance, working with the energy of the month and accessing that sensitive part of us through patience and through recognizing that

you have everything within you need is just accessing a little bit maybe more to take it to that next level. And so we wish you the best week and hope that you enjoyed this episode. We thank you so much for tuning in and we'll be back soon to share more about what's going on in the world discerning news by a spiritual perspective. Cheers.