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Today we're exploring what steadies us when the world feels uncertain. How self-love becomes the anchor and intuition becomes the compass. And we're gonna do it through some stories that are going on out in the world. You guys ready? Yeah, let's do it. I'm ready. Self-love, it is Valentine's Day today. Yeah, happy Valentine's Day. I by the time everybody sees this will be passed, but we wish you the Valentine's Day anyway.
There you go. The love is the love is real. The love is flowing and I don't know about you guys, but after Valentine's Day to me, I guess that's what we're talking about pretty much. But the self love so I don't I don't get a lot of stories with self love going on in them. No, no, this is the you know, that's a that's a topic that a lot of personal development goes into and and even religion talks about the especially
you know, when you get into the newer testament and talk about the love, if you know, the old testament is the law and the new testament is a love, ⁓ but making it practical, like it's that self love, if it's not tested and balanced in the world, I find it becomes more of a theory or an intellectual exercise as opposed to actually working with it. So
An example for that for me is like, okay, if I'm in a relationship or I'm working with business partners and stuff, there's an exchange going on there. So if it's, it, what happens with the self love thing is it becomes a swinging thing. Like I'm trying to help the work, the other person, and then it's about me. You know? So where is that practical world of self love where I am taking care of myself and being good to myself, but I'm willing to.
work with the other person, know, and hey, I'm in a relationship or I'm in a business situation or I'm talking to someone on the street. Like where is that genuine thing there? And I think that's part of some of the stories that we're talking about as well. Yeah, absolutely. I know that before we got together, we were talking a bit about religion and I've been watching some podcasts lately, some bigger people in podcast world and a lot of stories on religion coming up and a lot of
And for myself, when I feel into what they're talking about, which I hope our listeners out there feel into what we're talking about. So just an example, right? Because if you're if you're not resonating or feeling into what other people are sharing, well, how can you make it a truth for yourself, especially for that self love? But and so I recognize that when I'm listening and feeling into and sensing what other people are talking about, especially around religion. Yeah, it's very intellectual. And it doesn't. And that's why I think it doesn't resonate with me that much.
because this lifetime because it is very intellectual. Yeah, for every feeling there's an interpretation and for every interpretation I need a feeling. To be in balance. To be in balance and that's different than, you know, that's not saying for every idea I have to be emotionally wired or have an emotional reaction. So creating awareness for myself, I just have to relax, tune into what do I feel?
I do find that I have to be in a space where I'm calm, I'm taking some time to, in a sense, I have that self-love enough to go, okay, what am I learning about this? You know, when I was thinking about one of our recent, ⁓ one of the early ⁓ lessons in the subscriptions that we offer in the Way Showers, ⁓ silver and gold subscriptions and how ⁓ this month the key word is immortality and ⁓
under that paragraph about perfection, was talking about everything's perfect, you know, for what I'm going through and how I have perfect messes I'm in and I have perfect successes. And the messes for me were simple, like times when I just feel under pressure or I feel lesser than in a situation, or I find I go to share something and I just feel blocked, you know, so it's not...
a big deal. Like it's not a big mess. mean, it's just, I'm not feeling as enthusiastic or clear or as aware as I'd prefer to feel because you know, when I'm in that mode, I mean, you know, the, dominoes fall and things happen and I'm, I'm really enjoying myself. I mean, I know that we're to get into the stories, but one of things we were talking about in the green room is it's that
It's that vibe where if I'm trying to lead with my head rather than my heart, like I need both. That's what I'm getting. You're saying Tom is I need both. need balance of the heart and the head or the conscious mind and the unconscious mind. Or like we talk about it, we take it, you know, our intellect and our feelings, right? I need the balance there. However, I need to be leading with my feeling nature. I need to be leading with the heart.
And then I organized the intellect and then I move into action. that's really contrary to what you'll hear in the environment. That's right. and and and leading with my heart is different than emotions. Right. That's that's the big bugaboo there. But I'm bringing that up because if I've been trained to lead with my head and not my heart.
then no matter what belief system I get involved in, when I go to the synagogue, when I go to temple, when I go to the mosque, when I go to the church, I'm going to go there and I'm going to get some really great things initially, but the church doesn't go into me, right? I go in, but it doesn't come into me. In other words, all the goodness that's meant to be there, I don't bring it in because I'm leading with my head. So it's all intellectual. It's all, in other words, it's just an idea.
So going back to your self love thing, it's like I'm trying to live a life based on the idea of self love rather than the feeling of self love. Yeah. And so as we're approaching going through into some stories, you know, there's been quite a few of like repetitive things that have gone on this week. We've got the Iran and then, you know, and Trump and the government saying, you hey, Americans get out of there because some stuff's going to be going down.
And then we also have, you the Olympics, which is going on. And so a lot of people I've been hearing this this week are talking about how he's waiting until the Olympics are over before he makes his move because the Olympics are in Italy. So it's pretty close to it's not far across the ocean to what's going on over there. So I think that's a good place to start with is just that that story of, kind of like the building up and the energy, the anticipation, the chaos that might be coming forth and and how is that feeling to everybody?
Well, for me, ⁓ in coming back to the self love, the inspiration being my compass, right? That's what you opened with is that once I have the feeling of what is needed, then I can organize the opportunity. I can organize the timing to do things.
If again, if I'm going the other way around, that is I'm leading with my head or I'm just trying to have ideas about something, I'm going to create more chaos than otherwise. So the story about this, there's definitely something going on there where, we've had a couple recordings on this as well about the buildup there. So there's no question that ⁓ there there's that region.
that area in particular is ripe for change. And the way things are set up now, there's going to be change one way or the other kind of thing. So I think the thing for me is recognizing that I need to be allowing my intuition to guide me. That's my compass. And you brought that up in the beginning. Because if I don't, I'm going to get it.
caught up in all the moral issues of things, rather than working with things at hand. And I'm not over there. So how do I work with that situation, knowing that that's in the air? Right? So to me, it comes back to that the self love part of it, even though I know that something's going to go down there, because that's my feeling on it, something's definitely going down there, we'll see what happens. But
knowing that that's what's going to happen or that's my feeling on it. How, how do I'm going to approach things today? How am going to work with that? To me, the self love is almost like a positive discipline. Like a discipline can be says like something harsh. have to do every day, but imagine a positive discipline. It's something I like doing every day because I know what I get out of it. I like getting a keyword every day from spirit.
I like getting that feeling of enthusiasm because I'm doing what I came to do. Like, and then when I feel, and you were bringing this up earlier, when I feel pressure having the self love or inner discipline to say, wait a minute, what's that? That's not what I want to be a part of. That's not me. What do I need to change that? Or if it is me, okay, let me get out of my funk and I stopped feeling sorry for myself.
Right. We were talking about that earlier to the poor little me thing. So I, if I don't have that there, then it's a perfect example to me of, okay, here, all the battleships coming in to that area of that. We're talking about the news. If I don't go do something about my life, then something outside is going to start pushing in on me and forcing me to do things. So if I don't learn to play the game of life, learned how to exchange and be of service with people.
the world will come and start putting pressure on me. So the self love to me on this story is about I need to be in charge of my energy. I need to be of service. I need to know how I'm going to be expand. If I'm keep saying in a small world, then somebody or more organized than me is going to come and take over. Well, you know, it's been in that part of the world in Iran, it's been something like 40 something years.
So that's plenty of time for a new generation or two to be reincarnated. And what strikes me is there's as the waves of energy change, because, you know, I note that, you know, there was this time when the Shah of Iran was in power and there were these protests on campus in the United States. And in fact, that was a part of my college generation. I remember the stories on 60 Minutes. so, you know, they they they thought the Shah was a bad guy and and Walter Cronkite.
Is that how old you are, Thomas? And others. And to make a long story short, or it's going to be a long one. Get ready. Readers, I just condensed person, please, sir. Okay. All right. ⁓ Do your own. So now we're, now we're moving again to another cycle where a religious dictator, essentially, you know, you need to live by this intellectual.
rules and regulations that keep us in power and so forth. So people attracted that back in that day, back in the… I think it was the early 80s or so, but people can fact check me on that. And then now it looks like we're swinging in the other direction. So one of the things I like to share on this podcast is that a spiritual perspective is there's a group of waves of souls who have reincarnated back.
And the energy is changing because we attract our experience. My thoughts attract what I experience. And if I'm now come back to me, you know, if I don't have that self love to identify, you know, in this situation, I feel lesser than if I'm honest with myself, I'm feeling a little uncomfortable. What's what stimulated me to feel that way and then have that get back into my true feelings and then
you know, have I've got the interpretation of that emotion. So what's, what's the concept there? What's the idea there that stimulating that and then come come out of it and have that inner spiritual discipline to go, okay, no, wait, the truth is, is I am, there is no greater than or lesser than spiritually. So ⁓ how do I tune back into the fullness of my awareness and my being?
Yeah, for me, this brings up about anticipation of what's coming. So for myself, I've always been aware of and I get a sense of there's change on the horizon, there's something coming. And this has been a big discussion in the spiritual community for many years now, right? Like 2012 and this year and this is happening. And so for myself, I look at all that anticipation of especially around that area of the world.
and what's going to happen and how's that going to, you know, how's the whole rest of the world going to be affected or influenced by it? I look at my own world and what I go through day to day. And, you know, I also feel not only for the world, but for my personal that there's an anticipation of things changing. And I've always had this knack with me and I will call it intuition. And I'll say that it is, you know, it's it is my inner compass. And whenever I've tuned into that,
And a lot of times I also just kind of, you I'm aware, but I'm like, I don't dive into what's that all about. Like, I'm just like, okay, cool. There's something changes coming. There's some things gonna be happening. Cause like most of life, even my personal, I don't know exactly how things are gonna look. You know, what's the picture? And I ran what's the picture. It could be that nothing happens. It could be that this was just a buildup and that things shift in the background where we don't have to go in and have forces.
You know, we don't know what the outcomes are. And so for back to my personal, whenever I've been able to really recognize those hunches, insights and impressions and work with them in a way that that is my guiding compass, that, know, that is my true north, my inner pivot, whatever you want to call it. I've really been able to be in the right place at the right time and having the right experiences. So that's the part that really comes up for me is that.
anticipation, that feeling within that there's change coming. Yes. And to add to that is, I don't know if I would say the word prediction, but I think it's just kind of the knowing. And anyone who tunes into the bigger picture listening to this, I think, in my sense of it is would be on line with this is we are heading to a place that's much more positive. Right?
So whether you're a part of the politics with the powers that be right now, or your politics is with some other group that isn't in power right now, you can bet and count on that we're moving forward into something more positive. I can say that with complete assurance for myself at least, but I think anyone who tunes into that can feel that we're actually moving forward positively now.
intellectually my eyes will lie to me right but my head and my you know that that's that like but that's not what I'm seeing but if I can look past the the goings-on I'll see that this is all serving some kind of purpose are you saying move packs the floating poop on the top that's right that's right let the let the poop pass flush the poop down are flush it down the the moral of the story is
If I know that there's that bigger picture that we're heading one way or another, that's the component one way or another, we're heading here. Then it's really about how we get there. And so now comes in more of the concern about, well, I don't like the way the government's doing this, or I don't like the way they're doing that. That's worthy of a discussion, but the anxiety.
of are we going to do something? Are we not going to get there? That can be put aside. We are going to get there. We are moving to something more positive. So what I'm hearing you say is I can relax inside and trust that intuition. I can trust that inner compass, which is why we do the regrouping every month and those memberships, because it's a reminder to come back to say, ⁓ okay, that's the bigger picture. I remember now.
And this is also the energy I'm working with at this moment, exactly. the key words or, you know, the flavor of the month. That's right. So important. Well, and as I go through my everyday life, I keep coming back to. ⁓ Boy, you know, ⁓ I identified this week a situation where I feel lesser than and I, know, this is a mess. I'm I do. I've been doing this a lot, you know, and before I never even noticed it, I just thought I was supposed to feel that way. And.
But that's not really, I'm not enthusiastic about feeling that way. You know, I can only take that for so long. And ⁓ I decided I want to feel different. You know, I want to project the energy that I want to experience or more of that, you know, more of those fulfilling times in my life, which is something that I noted in the Wayshowers philosophy that we put out with the Wayshowers subscriptions that we work with.
And ⁓ yet I love watching out for the world events. You know, I love kind of following it. I like to keep informed, but ⁓ my day to day, the only way I can accomplish here is by being at least keep in mind that part of me that's here to grow spiritually and become more aware. I find as I do it, you know, I am less over concerned.
about world events and I start to see the patterns of energy and I'm sure that 99 % of the people who listen to us and tune into us go, yeah, really, like none of that's really affecting my life. I'm kind of going through this thing at work or my relationship isn't quite where I want it to be and really whether Iran gets attacked or not or there's a regime change kind of, well, it's just the noise that's out there.
Now, course, we know that it might affect. I need to be aware so I can work with my guides to be prepared, might say. I don't know, prepare to write, but ready for the changes that happen in the bigger environment. So I'd like to get your perspective on this, but that noise you're describing, right? That chaos in my eyes, right?
is just out there. And unless time all the time, and unless I bring it in, unless I bring it, I open the door to all that and bring it in so that I can have the turmoil inside unless I do that, it's it will be outside and not inside. And that brings us back to that self love thing, right? But here's the other component to add to that, because that's a brilliant thing to say, if everybody's listening to this, that was a really good thing that you said there, Tom.
that even if I am in a situation, let there's somebody listening to this that is an Iran, right? All I have is this moment. All I have is this moment and what I'm going to do now, today, to, I can plan for the future. I can regroup the past, but everything has to be based on where I am right now. Not being angry.
not being sad, I need to be right here right now. All that other stuff is luxuries. They're luxuries for me to be in my likes and dislikes. I have to be in the now to make those powerful decisions so that I stay in that self love. So I use that compass well. Yeah, so back to that noise, because that noise is consistent. The noise amplifies it seems like
It depends upon where the person is, is how amplified is that noise within them? Yes. Because that's the key is back to that self love and that that anchor. Like if a person doesn't have the self level, I can pretty much tell when I when I'm working or I'm talking to someone how they come about, you know, talking about the world events or what's going on and where they're at and how the anchor inside them is maybe a bit shaky. Right. So, you know, in this week, too, as we were kind of
getting ready for this episode, like, you know, the same things are going on. Like there's the Epstein and the Clintons and all the people who same names, the same names, the same, you know, executives are coming forward and they're, you know, um, giving up their jobs because resigning, resigning cause they're affiliated with the emails. Yeah. With Epstein. So it's the same thing and the Iran thing. then, so it's just, it's a continuation constantly. It's like, you know, I might've said this a while back, but years ago when I used to watch soap opera as my mom,
When I was a little kid, watched, swear to God from like Ryan's Hope at 1130 to like General Hospital ended at three. So we watched hours. Wow. Does that say a lot about me? Yes. You didn't know that before you married me, huh? Tom? He's like, damn, I didn't know what a new policy recheck before I marry you. How much soap operas have you watched? And so, and so we would always say like, you know, we maybe would miss a week or two or even a month and you come back.
It's the same same story. It's the same story. That's how it is. know, and recognizing that the noise is always going to be going on and that is so important to really work on our own selves. Yeah. And that's why we share, obviously, in these episodes every month is every month, every week, month after month after month is the importance of working with the spiritual part of us and being able to tune into that and that self love, which is not just a
blah, blah word out there. It's a true feeling within us. Well, I mean, imagine just if everyone listening to this and ourselves just imagine if we move through the day for this next week, right? Just move through the day that I'm going to be consistent about my self love. I'm going to let my intuition be my compass and I'm going to be of service and I'm going turn the fucking
things off. Yeah, I can be aware of it, right? I can be aware of it. But it's all a means to an end. It's all there to help me. We're, we're taking all these stories, and we're turning them into something that we can be of service with. That's everybody's job. That's everybody's job is to take the world and turn it into something positive for myself, something I can be of service with. Otherwise,
What's it for? It just becomes those big intellectual questions and all then the religion thing and all that atheist thing and it all becomes a big questioning. And that's a waste of time. It's all about me being here now and making it positive. And that's really why the stories are there. That's exactly what they're for. Yeah. And through those subscriptions that we offer that work with the Way Showers College, ⁓ I find that it gives me little clues and hints as to, ⁓ you know,
I have this way of thinking about things that's not really healthy. You know, I work with a fellow ⁓ in one of my business opportunities and the thing that I love about this guy is that, you know, ⁓ he went for a full-time role, you know, and he always has something positive to say. And this guy's got a, he's challenged in life. He's got some disability type issues that he's got to work with.
⁓ challenges I don't have, you know, and ⁓ we were regrouping about, you know, that that situation and those opportunities that came up and goes, well, you know, I didn't get it. But you know, I did my best, and I can improve in this area. And I'm going to, you know, really not over focus on that, but make sure I'm still offering great service. And I thought,
You know, it's so easy for me to minimize such a simple positive statement, almost like it's childlike. And I thought, but really that's the way to go is those folks that have that simple positive response because energy attracts energy, energy builds energy. And in the long run, what we sometimes find is that was
actually perfect for what I needed to become more aware of. know, we say learn and grow or evolve, but I would say lately what I've been tuning into and what's occurred to me is that it's an awareness that I evolve. So now I have answers to questions like, why do they keep going through this in Iran, you know, back and as I grow spiritually, I become more aware and then I become more aware of how I track my little messes.
Thank God for those masses. And pierce the veil. Yeah. Of what I'm looking at and to see what's behind it. Yeah. Well, we were just talking about that earlier about the, you know, the importance of recognizing. What were you saying about? I just lost it. You need to recognize it. ⁓ my God. I to go. I respect you on your journey to unfold for yourself.
Well, the bottom line is you're saying it's that that's the bigger picture I need to be a part of. Yeah. And really, what alternative do you have? You know, so I know what I was going to say. I know I going say now I mean, I can go back to the soap opera of life and the news is yeah. And like I say, I like listening to it. And I like hearing about the posturing and, know, because it's entertaining. You know, or I'm regrouping something if it bleeds, it leads. Yeah.
But as long as I recognize, you know, I'm just watching this because it's entertainment or I'm just. That's what I wanted. That's all I want to say. Well, so earlier in the green room, we were talking about, you know, this story was bad or so is good. And I'm like, you know, there I don't really feel there's a bad or a good story. Like they're all just areas to contemplate. It's just news and just news. And so it just like our experiences in life, like sometimes the most intense things that happen.
can be the most biggest blessings. Like ⁓ my mom went through just recently a Bigfoot incident. And so she was like literally bedridden in a hospital for about six weeks and went through, you know, six weeks of intravenous drugs to help her heal and took off part of her foot. And like yesterday, she's walking into the restaurant and she's like, look how good I'm walking. And like literally a few weeks ago, she wasn't even walking. It's amazing what
you know, the resilience we have as our physical body, but also as our souls. And so, you know, and sometimes these stories that come up, they can look so horrific or so, you know, and people can get so much angst and inner turmoil, but they're there for a reason. They're serving a purpose. you know, was, there were such beautiful moments, you know, with your elderly mother, frankly, that the fellows in the band, my friends,
You know, they all paid attention to her and they all had conversations with her. I thought, what nice people I'm so privileged to have mates like that, you know, and I was nothing we said, they just naturally, ⁓ you know, ⁓ helped her feel welcome and part of everything. And the reason I mentioned it is because those are the beautiful moments that, know, are worth.
being present for. Okay, yes. So the reason why that happened too is because mom had inner self love for what she'd been through, what she'd experienced. And my intuition as a compass yesterday, just the morning I was like, I'm not going to go Tom, it's an hour away. Oh yeah. Where you're at. I'm like, forget it. But my inner intuition, that compass at some point said the two o'clock, about two o'clock, I said, I'm going to call mom, see if she wants to go.
And I did, and it was the most beautiful experience and timeframe because of all that really transpired between the self-love as an anchor within my mom and me too. And that intuition that said, hey, I got the feeling of let me just call her, I think we should go up there an hour away and have a nice dinner. And it was beautiful. So that self-love as an anchor and intuition as a compass is a good way ⁓ to wrap up this, I think this week.
Any last words on those? ⁓ My conclusion or my wrap up would be that ⁓ I really need to know that everything is a means to an end. I need to be aware that I'm part of the bigger picture. I'm not separated from it, whether you call that the universe or God or whatever it is. I'm part of that. I'm not separate from it.
Some, someday if I get some enlightenment that somehow now I'm one with it or somehow when I die, I'm going to then float up and get my gold stars. No, I'm, I'm with it, whether I like it or not. And the only thing that can separate me from it is me. I can, if I work hard enough, I can find a way to separate myself. So everything is a means to an end to help me grow and evolve.
And that is, that is a key to help me be practical in this world to do what I've come to do. And if I don't allow that, if I don't have enough self love and inner strength to me, that self love has, it was tied in very ⁓ intimately with that inner discipline, with inner strength to say, you know, this is what I want. This isn't healthy for me.
this is healthy for me and to just follow that, to be loyal to that. To me, that's the key. And then the compass part for me is just to be obedient to my true feelings. So when I hear a story coming in that I have a chance to say, okay, well, what, where am I at? What do I need to do with that coming from that bigger picture down? So to me, that's the whole wrap up of it is really about
being strong in that self love and who I am, where I came from, knowing that everything is a means to an end. And I'm here to be happy, successful and abundant. And I can do that however I want. I can do that through a bunch of griping and moaning and you know, all the bad parts, or I can find a way to be smooth and enjoy myself and have fun. So that's the big picture for me.
Yeah, for me, especially this self love, it's important because I recognize in myself that the stories that are out there, if I didn't have that self love, they would be pretty intense to get through a lot of there's a lot of horrific things, especially with the Epstein and the people that he hurt and all kinds of stuff. Right. There's so much out in the world that's really horrific. Yeah. So when I've been able to really anchor my self love for myself,
and stayed on with my intuition as my guiding post and my compass, it's enabled me to really walk feeling free and really feeling that no matter what's out there going on, I've got my direction and I've got my purpose and I and I'm forward and what that is. The key word that strikes me is fulfillment and that I'm here to experience fulfillment. And so what that means to me is is that
I have enough self concern, self love, and maybe concern is a better way to say it, that I allow myself to feel fulfilled. And my fulfillment comes through being of service, spreading the love, ⁓ enjoying people. That's where my awareness begins to grow that, this is fun.
I'm not loving my neighbor because I'm supposed to and it's hard. I love my neighbor because it's more fun. It's more fulfilling. If we can make that shift from this suffering mentality that we've created that that really begins to heal me, my environment and the world will be a more positive ⁓ loving place.
Yeah, so we started this conversation with the world feeling unsteady and how to study yourself with self love and also with intuition. So as you contemplate some of the stories and some of the sharing we had today, we hope that you recognize the importance that when you participate in your life, you can create anything you want, but you have to start believing from within. So until then, we'll see you guys next week. Cheers.