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#29: Holiday Parties, Reality TV, and Celebrity Culture
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This episode explores the intersection of holiday joy, personal reflections, and cultural commentary. With updates on family happenings, AI discussions, and reality TV gossip, we dive deep into the values of leisure and connection.
• Sharing personal updates about holiday experiences
• Discussing the benefits and challenges of time off
• Anecdotes about festive attire and holiday creativity
• Insights on the case of Luigi Mangione and implications of image
• Conversations about AI in content generation
• Critiques and reflections on "Real Housewives"
• Comments on marketing luxury items in celebrity culture
hello, hello, hello and welcome back to dose of delusion. It is me, your host, yours truly jay, and I am sitting staring at the beautifully lit, the festive background, the mobile studio, beautiful aj, the silver fox, aj. How are you tell everything, hi?
Speaker 2I'm doing very well. Thank you for asking. Take two, if you will.
Speaker 1We had some technical difficulties, but we're good now. We're good now.
Speaker 2But no, no, I'm good, I am on vacation. I don't go back to work until monday, so, um, I'm also house sitting for some friends, um, who went to go visit some family for the holidays. Um, but yeah, how are you? You were in el paso, were you not? What's going on you?
Speaker 1know, I did get to go to el paso. I chose to not go home for thanksgiving or for christmas, so I went for a week in between and it was nice Got to spend some much needed QT time with the mother, got to hang out with my brothers, got to celebrate my dad's birthday as well. So it was, it was a nice. It was a nice trip home, cool, and, yeah, I really enjoyed it. But you, you have some time off. You must really be. For those of you who don't remember, aj took a little bit of a small little adjustment to his career path and, first of all, you look 10 times happier. Obviously, you look way less stressed. But all this time off is unheard of.
Speaker 2I mean it's time it's PTO, it builds up and you get to take a week at times.
Speaker 1you know that's how it is I love that for you taking so much time off at one time, so you have a whole week off. What are your plans for this? Uh, holiday time off?
Speaker 2I was um, my intention was go down to the valley and I still might do that, um, but I think I just want to stay local and kind of like how do how do you call it couch rot for a little bit.
Speaker 1Yeah, absolutely that that's exactly. I am so glad you said that because that is exactly what I'm doing. I'm making very minimal, minimal plans. I have about a total. My big supervisor big as in her role, not her size is being incredibly lenient with the amount of time off we're getting. She's even allowing us to have telework days but not really log in. And then we're having some minimal manning days but don't actually have to be in the office. So it all comes out to two and a half weeks completely away from the office.
Speaker 1Yeah, and I've made the most minimal amount of plans. I'm really enjoying some deep cleaning time, some, you know, just rest and relaxation and working out on my own schedule, and you know, just just a lot. Or I know that I'm getting a little bored already, but I'm going to. I know, I know I'm losing my mind. The cabin fever has already set in. I am fucking delusional and it's been it's day one, but but I know that once I get back into the office and we start kicking off the new year you know, work I'm going to really appreciate this time this cabin fever is going to be a dream.
Speaker 2A fever dream, if you will. I mean, and since you said trapped in the cabin or whatever, how's the weather? Is it snowing? Are you trapped because of snow? It snowed yesterday.
Speaker 1Wow, I mean and I use that term loosely it sprinkled, it sprinkled. You know, jesus Christ scratches the androfin. It sprinkled down a little bit, that's about all that it was.
Speaker 2But no it was in the.
Speaker 1Our low was 18 degrees. Our low was 18 degrees and today, I think, our high, you're telling me, and today the high is, I believe, like 34, 35. And it kind of stays around there. We'll stay in our 20s and 30s for the rest of the week. So no, it's pretty cold, it's pretty fucking cold I love that sweater you're wearing.
Speaker 2By the way, tell me what's that story it is not me, I know I kept on looking at it. I'm like that isn't you?
Speaker 1So, for full disclosure, I wanted to wear a Christmas hat today, but it wasn't fitting right and I couldn't figure it out with the headphones and blah, blah, blah. And while we're doing our distant recording, we need to have headphones. In person we can not wear them, even though we like to, but distantly I have to wear the headphones and I couldn't get the hat to wear. So I'm like no, what is my most festive sweater? Well, for last week, for my work, we had our holiday party and me and two other co-workers decided to get custom sweaters with our boss's face all over them and surprise them. It was a big hit. Everybody loved them. Some people got jealous that we didn't include them in our little plan.
Speaker 2But they can get choked. But it was the most colorful one I had, so I decided to throw it on for today and hoping you versus the, your traditional whataburger?
Speaker 1um, I do have my whataburger one. Uh, I think we already talked about how finding my other texans about wearing it yes, yes, yeah um, but I don't want to wear it again, but no just yeah, it's uh, yeah, this is, this is my boss in christmas hats, but I feel it was really colorful and I like it. But the black base, my favorite, yeah, yeah, I love a black base. That was good yeah oh my god, oh my god so okay, god, tell me everything.
Speaker 1No, no, no no, I just it's completely unrelated because I just glanced over and looked at something I'm going to be. I forgot. I'm going back to san antonio for like a week in march. Oh awesome, I completely forgot. But I I think I invited you already to be my plus one at the wedding, in comfort oh yes, I think I remember.
Speaker 1I forgot all about that I got the invitation today in the mail, so mark your calendars, I'll send you the information. It'll be so much fun and I need to update my RSVP comfort Texas we don't need to worry about it.
Speaker 2I actually I'm sorry.
Speaker 1I'm just so excited to say um tell me.
Speaker 2I sent you a video on facebook messenger did you get it probably which one was it? It was the video of our dear friend dj rudy um at heat no, I haven't seen it yet.
Speaker 1I thought you're gonna say tally the elf, which I'm obsessed with this video, but no, I have not seen now, I did see that he was at heat, he was playing at heat, but I did not see the video you sent me I?
Speaker 2um you need to. I wish you would have seen it, but he was playing so good um bear house is their like little production um company that they have him and his um husband jesse, but they did, it was so good um. There was also another major dj um, chichi larue. Um, she was also playing like the first half of the night in the front main bar and then dj um rudy was in the back right and um, and then they swapped or not not? At two I think chichi was done and so then rudy went over um and played in the main and then he like rudy's on.
Speaker 1He does so great for the after the after hours. And again, for those of you who don't know, this is uh, dj Rudy. At Instagram is DJ. Underscore R-U-E. Underscore D DJ Rudy. So if you don't know, go check him out, follow him. Like I said, like I was saying right now, he does so great on the after hours. I mean, I've loved him at all of those events that we've gone to, whether it's at Heat or at 800 Live and whatnot. His after hours is fantastic. I miss it.
Speaker 2Well, I sent you that video because they're scanning over the dance floor and it was so packed and I, of course, you give me a theme and I'm going to show up in my theme. It was Winter Wonderland, so I had my white fur, I had furry earmuffs and it was winter wonderland, so I had my white fur, I had furry earmuffs and it was like a white harness and just like white short shorts and it was. It was fun.
Speaker 1I am fuming at the mouth right now for not seeing that video, because I really wish I could see it. Right, I wish you could see it. However, I expect nothing less of you right keep in mind. This is aj, who once, somehow and he won't tell me how or where acquired an astronaut helmet for a costume theme right, a whole ass, a whole ass sphere, not a little plastic. You know, 1990s halloween mask, a fucking astronaut's helmet.
Speaker 2So I expect nothing less of you to I, and that was that was for their um bear houses, um, I think the theme was um interstellar cowboy or something like that.
Speaker 1It was so fun oh, my god, and I had like two outfits at that for that one pause because I'm laughing over here. No, that is so cool. I wish you would have seen it. And as soon as we finish this podcast, I'm gonna be lying to my facebook and I'm gonna watch that video, but once again. Guys, go check out dj rudy, I miss him I cannot wait to get back to an event.
Speaker 2He really is, and he's all over the country yeah, he was just in chicago, um, for the wet party. It's like a day, daytime like um, um disco, like dance party, um day it's what do they call those? Um, tea dance, if you will. So, um, he was there for wepa party, um, and was like sunday during the day partying it up. It was like the dancers and everything that they did was like it looked really, really good. So you need to just I mean, he'll probably be in dc soon I wouldn't be surprised. He needs to hurry up and get here you better find it.
Speaker 1Next time he's in new york you should go yeah, that's literally just a train right away, which is so funny, I just saw. I just saw a meme that was like thanks for choosing amtrak. Well, you have literally no other train to choose from, but yeah, literally a trainer right away. So I definitely will. I got some friends out there too who would love to join me.
Speaker 2Speaking of new york, tell me everything um, can we talk about your boyfriend luigi's haircut and threaded eyebrows? Why is he? Why is he Uh-huh, uh-huh, jimmy, jimmy, jimmy, honey, because he was looking so good.
Speaker 1Okay. So I did Speechless, I know, no, no, no. So there was about a week and a half, about a week or so, where I was just busy with family and whatnot and traveling and everything. I didn't get a chance to follow up on the Luigi story, but then I realized there really wasn't much more information because he already had his initial charges right, his initial indictments indictments, I should say and he was dealing with some extradition issues. But now he waived his right and he was transferred to New York. So it was a quiet news cycle for luigi, minus some minor details which I'm more than happy to explain right now. So, yes, he got a taper fade while in lockup and it got his eyebrows threaded. Obviously he looks phenomenal. There is a mugshot circulating right now that pretty sure it's an ai generated mugshot, but when I tell you it looks like the cover of vogue. It is beautiful, however.
Speaker 1So I've been, of course, where I get all of my news and education from tiktok, exactly, um I've come across a few pages for people that were either in lockup before their parents were on lockup or their spouse was on lockup and they were talking about the reason why he has, how he's able to get that taper fading his eyebrows done, is it is a signal to the guards don't fuck with him, right, which he doesn't need them. I would have gone to the front lines for him myself, but he's got protection on the inside and it is. I think it's really great that that he has that. Now. I do want to say something regarding Luigi is we are not like I'm not celebrating a death, right, I'm not celebrating a death Like. I'm not like I don't know this man from Adam.
AI Podcasts and Mysterious Drones
Speaker 1I know he obviously has a lot of bad press and publicity because of what he does, what he did. I think it is like that, that act or the reasoning behind it. Not that it justifies murder. It is kind of interesting and it doesn't help that he's also very attractive. Let the gays be the gay, so on and so forth, right, but but I do think it's kind of neat. That neat in the sense of how the prison system works, how the, the community within the prisons work, is what I'm getting at. This shouldn't be this way in society. But I think it's kind of fascinating how in prison they have all these general codes where essentially even affects the prison personnel, like the law enforcement personnel, where it's like don't fuck with him because at the end of the day the inmates outnumber the prison guards.
Speaker 1They will revolt yes, and they don't want a a riot on their hands because they're abusing this person. So it's kind of nice to know that he's got a little protection, a little bit of protection inside. And if for anything, I don't want to get into the whole, the whole epstein thing, but at least we know that as this plays out he'll'll stay. He'll stay alive. You know what I mean. He'll stay alive while the whole thing plays out and we can see exactly what happened. And if he's convicted and he confesses and the alleged is no longer alleged, that he has that protection to at least defend himself in court and look good and look delicious.
Speaker 2I know, but yeah no.
Speaker 1I just I knew.
Speaker 2I knew you'd come across and I just needed to like, since we that is kind of like one of the main stories of the hour we did need to like, touch these continuously until you know everything.
Speaker 1Um, uh you know ends with that um, yeah, I, I can't get over. I know that he pled not guilty, right, and a lot of people are like saying we caught you on camera, blah, blah. But I don't, I don't know. Obviously I'm not an attorney, I just played one on tv before, but I do think I remember there was once a, there was once. There's always a mass shooting.
Speaker 1There was a mass shooting in the town that I lived in and, um, uh, fast forward, a couple months later when they finally went to arraign the guy, the, the person, he, um, he pled not guilty. And everyone was like how could you, how could you do that? How could you allow him to plead not guilty? But apparently, if you are charged with like a capital crime or capital murder, you have to plead not guilty because the legal system has to prove that it was you, um, you can't just accept guilt and then just be, you know, convicted, move on. So whether luigi did this on purpose and plan to get caught, no matter what, I think he has to plead not guilty so that he can have the full due process of law, and they have to. The burden of proof is on the prosecution. That sounded fancy, right, anyways, I know just, I feel like elwoods, anyways but legally blonde too.
Speaker 2Not the first one really. Yeah, because she was already a lawyer by that point.
Speaker 1She was like you know I don't know if I ever saw, if he Blonde, I think it was.
Speaker 2Red, white and Pink or something I don't remember.
Speaker 1I don't know if I ever saw it. I really like the first one. And you know what's funny, my mom actually I didn't realize this. I mean I've known for years now but I was like well into my late 20s and caught my, not caught, but my mom was watching legally blonde and then she was watching legally blonde the musical and I had no idea that she was like really obsessed with the legally blonde movie, like I am with mean girls or whatnot, and I thought that was just really neat. I thought it was super cute that my mom is all about elwoods and perms and everything, so super, super cute. Does she do the bend and snap? I don't want to think about that. I'm so sorry, you're fucking delusional.
Speaker 1no, any way yes, I'm sorry continue luigi mangioni, though I I I stand with luigi for now yeah, it's amazing.
Speaker 2Yes, so I'm sorry, anything you have to say about luigi?
Speaker 1no, I'm just kidding. No, no, no, no, we're ready we move past.
Speaker 1I know I cannot stop well, there was something that I did want to bring up and it's kind of right off the cusp and I'm not. I don't want to be accused of copying another podcaster by any means, but when I saw this I had to because I was listening to this podcasting guys at the gym. When I heard this thing that they did or that was done for them, I like dropped that dumbbell like hiroshima. I left the fucking gym, I went to my computer and did this, so I was listening to the basement yard boys right first of all, they're so fucking sexy because they're hot.
Speaker 1Yeah, and exactly. And apparently one of their fans had sent, uh, frankie a, a clip, a 90 second clip, of an ai podcast in their voice and that apparently they found an ai program that can go and listen to all of their podcasts and then create a podcast in those voices based on data. So did you do one of us? I did I did.
Speaker 2Are you ready for us? You want to hear it? Yeah.
Speaker 1Okay, I don't know if this is going to work. Oh my God, I'm afraid if I take my computer off, you Hang on, hang on, hang on. Oh no, hang on, hang on. Are we going to get feedback? This is so unprofessional.
Speaker 2We are getting feedback this I don't know what I'm gonna do, but I don't know how I'm gonna figure it out but we need to have like a little pre chit, chat, pre-show. This is just so real and raw, like I love it, and that's why our listeners love it too, you know.
Speaker 1But I think we need to have a little like you need to see that video first that I sent you I know, I know, but it's essentially just us on a phone call for everyone to hear, and I love it that way. I have to figure out how to do this because I of our videos and then it make like the videos.
Speaker 2And then we don't even have to do this, Like it'll do it for us.
Speaker 1No, because it made us look really funny, but anyways, but I did that and then that got me down the AI rabbit hole. I remember we talked about this. I talked about this with you on the pod about maybe putting in my entire manual and making a creative podcast out of that.
Speaker 1So I did it. I did it with, uh, a portion of the manner that we're currently updating. It's been in collaboration for like six months now okay, excuse me, six months now and it's, uh, nearing the finalization. It's only like four or five pages long, seven pages actually so I uploaded it into google, I created the podcast. It took all of 12 seconds, and when I tell you that it sounds incredibly human, like if you had played this podcast for me and did not tell me it was AI, I may have been like, hmm, something's up, but I would have not have pegged it to AI. I would have thought maybe it was distorted audio or something.
Speaker 1But it is good, and it gave me a 30 minute podcast, two-person podcast, on that entire section of policy that I put in, and I thought that was pretty fascinating. So you guys need to go and check that out. It's really fascinating. I'm not going to give google a plug, because why would I do that? Um, but it's on google. You can figure it out on your own. Uh, I spent a lot of yesterday doing that. That's crazy.
Speaker 2I know it's. It's kind of scary actually, like every I don't know, I don't know the world ending, I don't know there's aliens, there's things there's. I mean I can't, I don't want to be that person, but I know you've seen the TikToks.
Speaker 1Are we talking about the wait, the drones and the?
Speaker 2glowy things that they're calling plasmoids or something.
Speaker 1Okay so I have not heard about the second part of what you said, but I have heard about the drones and actually I was just doing a little bit of a shallow dive on the drones today this morning, and it pretty much sounds like the only people who don't know what they are are the average citizen. The government knows what they are. Pretty much the how did how did this? One person say it. The calls were coming from inside the house, essentially somebody who works for the Department of National Security or something I don't care. Correct me, please, I hope that you do but said I can't talk about it until Congress allows us to talk about it. So that was like a weird answer.
Speaker 1Then another person came out and said they are American drones, they're looking for something. That's why they're going across the country, because now they're being spotted in California. So ultimately, the fact that, if you think about it I think Bethany Frankel said it if they were foreign drones, america would have shut them down already. You know what I mean. Like the United States would have already done something about it. But the fact that they've been up for so long and the people in our government won't say won't either, they won't deny it, nor will they confirm it. You know what I mean. So they're pretty much saying they think it's our own drones, our own meaning the us government and they are doing something, most likely looking for something with these drones allegedly.
Speaker 2But I mean, but these drones are like the size of cars. No, is that right? I mean, I think that was what do you call it?
Speaker 1I think that, no, I think that was what's the word I'm looking for, because somebody said they're like the size of an suv right yes, and it looks like a helicopter, almost that's probably probably a UAV, which is technically a drone, an unmanned aerial vehicle, which is technically a drone, but I think for the actual drones that we know like, we can go buy at Best Buy. They're a little bit bigger than that but they're not the size of an SUV. But I don't know, I don't want to know either. There are some things about our government that people I think just need to let go and conspiracy theorists other than Luigi Mangione just need to let go. Even while following the black and white lawful areas of the law, there's a lot of things that was not released to the public for the sanctity of the investigations, right, and they never were released. And we're talking at low-level, regional-level crimes. What our country, what our government does on a national level and worldwide level, um, you know table.
Speaker 2There are some things I just don't want to know I mean totally, I get it, but also I mean it's I. Ignorance is bliss, I guess, if you want to go ahead and go that route, but I, I don't want to be ignorant. You know what I mean. Can I say that?
Speaker 1I don't know if you can or not, but I'll give you the pass. I'll give you the pass. Okay, thank you. Oh, did I tell you about my friend, A friend of a friend, actually, I think I may. I don't know if I told you. We were on a little smaller road trip for business and her friend was. Her friend rode with us, me and a colleague, but actually just friend, not like that one colleague from the restaurant bar no this girl's actually a good friend of mine, we've hung whatever.
Speaker 1She brought a friend with us and she's talking bitching about her man and then she dropped, like you know well. Well, I guess I can say she's. She said, she said nigga, no, it's soft art. Soft art, right, but nonetheless and when she said it I didn't say anything. I'm like this isn't my battle to fight right now. You know, I'm in the back seat, I'm whatever doing their thing. And then I guess she saw me in the mirror and then she paused and then she was like oh, you don't, you don't care that. I said that, right. And I said if you think I might give you a pass, you're dead wrong. And then she just stayed silent the rest of the trip.
Speaker 2And I thought that was hilarious because how long of a road trip was it?
Speaker 1I didn't like two hours I didn't say anything I didn't say anything at first, but like don't double down. You you know what I mean. Don't double down, that's wild. So talk to me about what you're saying.
Speaker 2So wait, what was I saying, what was I talking about?
Speaker 1I don't know, I can't focus, I'm Googling drones.
Speaker 2Google plasmoids. How about you look up that?
Speaker 1Look up that real quick, I will.
Speaker 2I will look up plasmoid Because apparently there was a video on TikTok that I saw that one of the drones was flying towards this plasmoid thing and then it like met with it, and then it lost all its power and came crashing down.
Speaker 1I did see that a drone show in Florida. There was an issue and a Christmas drone show and then the drone started falling out of the sky and a little boy is not in critical care because apparently the drone hit him in the chest. It looks like a seven-year-old kid and some people got pictures and stills and they say it looked like something knocked these, these drones, because, like a lot of them just started falling out, like malfunctioning. And we hear about drone shows all the time. I've witnessed them at ACL and other events. Downtown San Antonio has them. Out of all the drone shows that are going on, I have yet to hear of a malfunction where they just fall out of the sky and then hurt people or whatnot. So the fact that this happened right now while we're having other things in the sky that people can't identify, I mean I guess I you know what they say. What's the difference between a regular person, a conspiracy theorist about six?
High-Profile Divorce Drama and Wealth
Speaker 2months. Yeah, that's true, though that is one thousand percent right. Oh no, I'm staying away from that rabbit hole. Let me not go down it. On lighter news, tell me, have you caught up on all of the Housewives?
Speaker 1I am not fully caught up on all of them, but I'll tell you what I am. I am caught up on a storyline, okay bronwyn, okay, go on, no so I know you sent me something I I'd already seen the story heard. Heard about the story on tiktok. Obviously we should just rename this whole fucking podcast at tiktokers I think so, hey, and isn't it going away?
Speaker 2didn't you read that? Like they, it's like gonna be decommissioned, or something.
Speaker 1Um, I know there's for the sidebar, I know that they are. There's already a plan like, if they're gonna appeal or appeal or file for like an injunction or whatnot, that they can keep doing that and they can't make a decision while there's a appeal in process. So they have a method to keep it, to keep it, to keep it going. Okay, um, but I'll just jailbreak my phone and download it illegally, but anyways, no. So, okay, I already heard about it. I from other things I listened to from other outlets I watch, but I mean honestly, yes, she was. So what is it? What was? So? She was attacked by a, viciously attacked by a dog. It sustained quite a bit of injuries, obviously went to the hospital and then she continued to go on their trip, like the day after it happened.
Speaker 2Her leg and arm looked terrible yeah absolutely.
Speaker 1I mean, I adore dogs, but but when they attack they can do some serious damage.
Speaker 2It can cause some serious infections her husband didn't even want to go to the hospital for her. He was like it's a scratch. You're just being dramatic.
Speaker 1I would have signed divorce paperwork immediately upon that, to quote my cousin vinny well, there's a fucking surprise. I, literally I, I've told you I can't stand him, I can't stomach him, I, I, I hate him. So he doesn't fit on the show. Why he's probably out of all the husbands, at least on that franchise? Because not like beverly hills, beverly hills husbands are always present. Um, but on that franchise salt lake city he's present the most and no one cares to look at him. No one can hear him talking. He doesn't fit in with the other husbands. When there are group activities like why, why are you there? But yes, so I think she cited some of the reasons for her divorce were obviously irreconcilable differences, as well as the fact that the way he treated her after that dog attack.
Speaker 2Again, no words. I just can't. That was just crazy. But did you see the?
Speaker 1what else about it? What else?
Speaker 2So she the good part about it. Yes, please Can you let everyone know?
Speaker 1Yeah, okay, so she was attacked by this dog who was apparently there at a dog park right, and then she got attacked by a dog, but the person who had a dog was actually like fostering it, so didn't have a good history of the animal, which, if you don't know how your dog's going to behave, don't take him out, but either way, didn't have a history, didn't have the resources to care for the dog, and Bronwyn was like understanding that dogs are going to be dogs when they're put in certain situations.
Speaker 1I think she was approaching the dog and she was petting it. Something spooked it and then it attacked While in the hospital recovering from her vicious attack, and she heard about this dog and what was most likely going to happen, she said no, if you don't have the resources for this dog, I don't want to put down. I will take possession of the dog. I will get the resources that it needs, get it trained, get it taken care of and make sure it can find a better home. She did all that after just suffering an attack from that same dog, and that speaks volumes of your character.
Speaker 2True class Class right there all the way, and like that's how people should be, you know.
Speaker 1Absolutely. But I do have one word regarding or two words, maybe it's three words regarding her whole divorce from Tom. No prenup.
Speaker 2Really you don't remember that was a big thing. She doesn from tom no prenup. Really you don't remember that was a big thing. I don't know, I didn't, I didn't remember that.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's right. Oh, she doesn't. Yes, she doesn't have a prenup with uh, with with tom tom right, that's his name I don't know todd, not that I todd, not that I fucking care.
Speaker 1Yeah, she doesn't have a prenup with todd and he is like old microsoft the wealthy, he's old. What did he create? It's the old sidekick cell phone or something like that. Yeah, she does have a prenup with Todd and he is like old Microsoft wealthy, he's old. What did he create? The old sidekick cell phone or something like that? Right, something like that. I think the Razor or I don't know, but he's like old money, literally old in age and old in money as well. Yeah, the wealth is absurd. So I hate that I'm about to say what I'm going to say, but I cannot wait to watch this divorce play out in front of her eyes, right?
Speaker 2I mean I want her to get like the same kind of like crazy money that Sutton is getting. That would be like she's getting like over 200 or 300,000 a month in alimony.
Speaker 1And child support too.
Speaker 2Does that include? No, does she? No? I don't know Al in child support too, Does that include no, does she?
Speaker 1No, I don't know. Alimony is one thing, but in child support she's getting $30,000 a month after taxes in child support. Remember that $30,000 a month.
Speaker 2I was just all about the alimony, that's all I needed. Like $300,000 a month.
Speaker 1A month, that's insane Wait she's getting $300, 300 wait, yes, and then 30 000 a year. No, that doesn't sound right. No, that's not right. I thought it was 30 000 a month in child. You know, it doesn't matter, it is way more money than I'll ever see in my life. And she's getting it for just being married for a little bit. But you know, honestly, yes, I want her to get the same, that same. You know, you know treatment that sutton got or the jennifer tilly got or whatnot. But honestly, I don't, I don't care. Okay, I got happy to not see todd ever again. Go ahead, tell me so um.
Speaker 2She was awarded 300 000 per month in spousal support. Um. The payment will end when one of them dies or when Sutton remarries. The $300,000 is after tax. She gets $50,000 per month in child support, a $3 million trust for their children, a home in Georgia and one in Los Angeles, a lump sum payment of 1 million 235 000, three vehicles, a range rover, a cadillac automobile and a 2015 chevy suburban. Um. Her jewelry, um couture, clothing and andy warhol prints, a bank account with 86 000 and a personal account with 800k um. More than 2 million in cash, homes, cars, artwork and investment properties um, I would never get remarried again.
Speaker 1No, if that's what it is, no no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2Single I would be a hoe. My pussy would be getting my god. I can't believe. I just said that. I take that back.
Speaker 1Oh no.
Speaker 2But yeah, that's insane, I like. But how terrible was she that he's like I don't care. Take all this, I don't want to see you ever again.
Speaker 1And then move to europe well, first of all, I think that's where his roots. I think he was. He was an american to begin with. Um, because it says right here prior to marrying sutton, christian served in the peace corps, in a big word, in west Africa. It starts with an M. It looks like Maury Tania, west Africa from 92 to 94. Then he established himself as a successful banker with rules at credit sites, commerce banks, securities and Dutch Bank. Anyhow, she's insufferable. I can't stand her.
Speaker 2I can't stand garcelle either, to be quite honest and you know I was a very big garcelle stan and I just I cannot, not this season. I think it's time for them to go. I don't like garcelle at all uh but I want her to lead a state she's warming up to me, but I've actually never really been a fan of garcelle.
Speaker 1There are she's had some moments where I like her, some moments, but 80 of the time I cannot stand her. I think she is inauthentic. I know it's reality tv a lot of them are but she's just fake, she's not real. And another there's a podcaster that I listen to who does nothing but real housewives, deep dives about three times a week and he said something that really made me say, hmm. They were saying that if you notice how Garcelle ever rarely brings a friend around, people are saying that she's a completely different person when she's on the camera than she is in real life, which is why she never has her friends around.
Speaker 1But two, that Garcelle is using the show and actually using it like. Two, that Garcelle is using the show and actually using it like you know, treating the show like a job. She's treating it like a job and not just to be a reality star like this. The job is one, I'm getting paid per episode. And two, the exposure is going to lead to different things. That's now she's directing. You know, she's only done as far as I know and if I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but I don't think I'm that wrong. Has she done any big screen? She pretty much only does straight-to-TV, straight-to-DVD or nowadays, straight-to-streaming things, and now she's directing. So it's like she's gotten a lot of roles that she probably would not have gotten, or a lot of opportunities that she probably would not have received had she not been a housewife, and so she's treating the show like a job to where the other girls are treating it as that's all of them, except for Jennifer Tilly and Kathy Hilton, which is why they're so kooky.
Speaker 2Because they don't need to carry themselves any kind of way for marketing purposes. They're not selling anything, they're not trying to market themselves as something. They just, they're just rich bitch I love that, I love it.
Speaker 1But no, I can't stand garcelle. I I never have. I don't like her, I don't think she fits on the show and I don't think her wealth is is enough to be with the other ladies and I'm wondering why she's there and I? I fuck it. I'm just gonna say it like is it? Is it a diversity thing? You know what I mean? That's exactly what it was.
Speaker 2But now, which is why they also had crystal, uh, minkoff yeah, couldn't like it very much.
Speaker 1But now that boz is there and boz has the wealth to keep up with other ladies, you know I wonder how much longer Garcelle is going to last. Or is Garcelle going to start acting out and creating a storyline for herself? Because she did just enough to stay relevant but not enough to have a storyline before. Except for you know where I also lost a lot of respect for her, not that I had any real respect, but a lot of just like.
Speaker 1Whatever Is what she did to Dorit when she made Dorit feel so terrible when she was like you attacked me, and she turned that into a whole three-episode thing about saying that being attacked as a telling a Black woman that they're attacking someone, and she went on and on and on and Dorit had to be like you know, I didn't mean it that way and she's like no, and she made this big, huge racial thing about it and I thought I'm a person of color and I've lived a very fortunate life.
Speaker 1I can count on one hand how many times that I've been aware of that I've been discriminated against for my race or the color of my skin. But I just think you know there are fights that we as people of color have to fight, that are actual things worth fighting for. And then you turning something that every single person knows and every viewer knows was not intended in a racial way whatsoever and then making it a racial thing on the platform that you have I thought was disgusting, and I that's when I was done with her I have a super random question please this is nothing.
Real Housewives Gossip and Business Ventures
Speaker 2This is so way off. I love it are we recording? I hope so are we, because there's usually the the time on the top right here and I don't see it.
Speaker 1I see it on my end.
Speaker 2I got real worried. We had all those technical difficulties. At the beginning I was like we've been talking for like an hour and I'm trying to see the countdown and I don't see it and I'm like what is going on?
Speaker 1we've been talking for 39 minutes and 50 seconds. Do me a favor, go and touch your screen. There you go oh my god I'm a mess. I. This is what happens when we don't record weekly anymore. We do it every other week, I just forget things that you know what I need. I needed that because I was getting very passionate about my distaste for Garcelle. I needed to end that.
Speaker 2Just to quickly with Beverly Hills Housewives. I think Kyle needs to go too.
Speaker 1And that's the show. We'll be back in two weeks We'll see. Oh no, I can't co-sign to that.
Speaker 2I think she's going through a little bit of a rough time, I know, I know, but the way you were just going off, I had to do it. And the reason why you don't like her is because she attacked Kyle too. No, yes, no, come on.
Speaker 1No, I've never liked ourself in the beginning Lies.
Speaker 2I'm going to look for our recordings where we talked about and you were not this upset okay, I will say this about kyle.
Speaker 1Right now I am on, but the whole kyle and dorit feud, I do think that dorit's blowing it out of proportion and but I'm still team dorit.
Speaker 2Oh, but I'm still team dorit.
Speaker 1I think she's making it too big of what it is, but I'm still team dorit and even though I am team dorit on this, I don't think kyle needs to go. I think kyle kyle went through a midlife crisis while on national tv. I mean the whole thing, and I don't think she needs to go. She just needs to get past the midlife crisis that I mean she's 13 years is too much.
Speaker 2Like you have over 100 your worth. Your net worth is over 100 million.
Speaker 1Like and whatever she's gonna and whatever she's gonna get from aricio.
Speaker 2That's right well, and the agency's hers, apparently. Did you hear that?
Speaker 1well, yeah, and it's also a part of bravo's thanks to bethany frankel the frank. The frankel clause bethany the frankel okay we talked?
Speaker 2did we talk about this? We may feel like I wanted, but I don't understand.
Speaker 1I don't know if we did or not. So the Bethany clause is because, because, uh, Bravo, right Got zero money.
Speaker 1They got zero money from skinny girl, a billion dollar company, right, they said never again. And so now anybody's encouraged can hawk whatever they want on the show, but Bravo will get a percentage of it and it's called the Bethany Clause. And now every housewife that belongs to the Bravo Real Housewives Network and franchise has to sign that has to agree to that clause. So good for Bethany for sleeping right under the radar on that one, but yeah.
Speaker 2Well, I mean who knew, I think for slipping right under the radar on that one. But yeah, I mean who knew? But she was also like baking cookies in her like New York tiny apartment kitchen at the beginning, when she first started. She was like a private chef, I think, or something.
Speaker 1Yeah, when she was, when she was married to Jason, who was so hot, no, that was before, jason.
Speaker 2Like this is when she was still single. Oh, she was still single. Oh, I forgot about that.
Speaker 1Yeah, season one she got dumped on that season because she sent her nude uh to that guy to like his work cell phone or his work email or something like that.
Speaker 2Yes, yes, um, speaking of selling stuff, did you know meredith marks has caviar?
Speaker 2I literally no, I did not, I didn't bethany I she's all over my tiktok now for some reason, but she was like has become this like caviar savant and she's like trying and giving like people and like I follow this fabulous girl named danielle something or other and she, um, she works with something called Murky's Caviar. Um, I think it's like a family business as well and so I need I want like the way she like does it and she's always eating it it looks so delicious and the way she describes it. Well, bethany tried some of Murky's and then tried some of Meredith's and she was like, oh my God, this one like delicious and like she was talking it up. So Meredith, okay.
Caviar, Parties, and Party Drama
Speaker 1I, I just have. Do you know how caviar is made? Yeah, it's, it's fish eggs. Well, that's what it is.
Speaker 2But you know how it's made and this is why I cut it open and then they take out the egg sacs and that's what it is.
Speaker 1Well, yes, but there's more to it. Okay, what do you mean? You're like yeah, just fold in the cheese.
Speaker 1You just cut it open and there it is so like yeah, they get the fish, they cut it, they get all the eggs out, they get rinsed out and then they get like there's a brine. This is where the recipes get kind of secret, because it's like a certain like salt to water solution and other flavorings and whatnot, and there's a certain ratio that goes in for the caviar, then how long it sits to get the certain flavor in it, and whatnot. I just don't foresee meredith marks knowing enough about that and how to adjust the brine for what she wants and all that stuff.
Speaker 2I don't know any better but when you judge, you have people do that all for you. No, I do it and just have your name to it.
Speaker 1That's the point that I'm making. You know, it's so annoying, but I'm reading right here ascend to new heights. This is on a meredith marks, caviarcom. Oh, such creative name anyways. Um, I mean, maybe I'm a little jealous, but whatever, right, right you're gonna look at my Walmart brand fiber pills, oh no. And which, by the way, you know, that Pure for Men, right?
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1If you look at the ingredients, it's psyllium husk fiber with another probiotic. I don't understand why people pay so much money for that. Yeah, you can get the exact same thing for $5.48 a bottle. Exactly, you're welcome people, gays, bottoms or ladies, I don't care.
Speaker 2But also gays love to just overpay for stuff. You know what I mean, yeah you're right we do, I will never be rich.
Speaker 1No, exactly as I place my order for Meredith Marks Caviar.
Speaker 2No, alright, it says right here on meredithmarkscaviarcom.
Speaker 1ascend to new heights. Right here On MeredithMarxCaviarcom, ascend to New Heights. Enhance your Culinary Journey with our Meredith Marx Caviar Varieties Platinum, white, sturgeon, diamond, etc. And 24-Karat Kaluga that sounds cute. I like the alliteration 24-Karat Kaluga that's my new grinder name. Anyways, yes, it looks cute. The 24-Karat kaluga goes for 79 a jar, okay, uh. And then the diamond of sestra goes for 89 doll hairs. You can taste all three for 149. And you can get the mother of pearl spoon for 29 us doll hair.
Speaker 2it doesn't even come with it, no, it's 25, just for the spoon no, I'd rather then, I'd rather just get murky's then, because murky's has like like a sampler thing that you could just order online and they send it to you, and it comes with a spoon, at least, and I think even like a pearl dish or something, so that way it could be served nicely on top of it, like with ice and stuff.
Speaker 1So I love it. No, caviar is delicious, though I enjoy, I don't have it often. Um, not just because of the prices. That's half the reason, but the other half is it's just not typically served everywhere, definitely in a taco bell, and it's definitely not at any other restaurant to go to.
Speaker 2So um yeah, so I mean, but all of them like sell stuff, really you know what I mean. So but I was very surprised to stumble across the whole caviar thing and I was like Marithma, are you really? And then, don't you remember, I think, on one of their trips, either last season or this season, one of them, I think it was last season where they were like, of course she brought her caviar.
Speaker 1Yes.
Speaker 2And I didn't. I didn't pick it up then, like she wasn't talking about it or selling it, but I just thought oh, she really likes her caviar, like that's what I really thought.
Speaker 1Those are my exact thoughts as well. I thought she had to bring her own caviar that she likes. I didn't realize it was her caviar, her branded branded caviar, yes, um, I cannot stand it. What did she say when she was like you're something in delusions.
Speaker 2I don't know the rumors, no, so also and thanks to Miss Meredith.
Speaker 1Rumors and nastiness Go ahead.
Speaker 2I need Okay. So I'm going to host a party and I'm'm gonna have security and I will throw someone out and yell security to have them.
Speaker 1I was like I, I was like where is he going with this?
Speaker 2I know he's going I like you know what that bitch did like she was upset because last season at the dinner table she couldn't throw out angie. So she elaborated this whole scheme of a bat mitzvah so that way she could have a party and then invite angie and then look for the tiniest sliver of anything to have her thrown out, because as soon as she was like oh, she called me a hooker or something.
Speaker 1She was like she did get security.
Speaker 2Like it was zero to a hundred. She was waiting for the right moment and she saw it and ran with it and I lived for it and I need to have a party and I need to throw someone out, like I need to have security escort someone out. I I don't care who it might be, you, I don't know what?
Speaker 1hey, I got you, no, I got you. I got you tell you what you have a party. You'll be my security and I will go. No, no, no, no no, no. I will go, I will say something outlandish to you in front of everybody, and you can give me a look and I'll be like and what are you going to do about it? And then you'll just be like security and I'll leave.
Speaker 2Oh no, I'm going to have security escort you. Okay, I'll stand my ground and let security throw me out.
Speaker 1I got you, I got you, they will.
Speaker 2No. And then you turn to them and say you don't have to escort me out. I weigh 90 pounds.
Speaker 1Yeah, I'll definitely say that. You know, I have been kicked out of a party before.
Speaker 2Oh.
Speaker 1I was really really, really young and it wasn't even bad. It was a whole like boyfriend, ex-boyfriend thing, like that, that's all it was. And I I had made a joke about my ex-boyfriend to his current boyfriend, who was hosting the party, but I didn't know that they were an item or whatever. And then he didn't like what I said. I don't remember what it was, but he didn't like what I said. And then he was like oh, here, let me get you things have a nice night. And he just walked into the door before I even knew what happened. I was outside the house with my coat and I was just like I think I just got kicked out of a party.
Speaker 1So yeah, I've never I don't think I've ever kicked anyone out of a party, though.
Speaker 2I've done that, so I have this story. It's so funny. So when I was very young, it was like an underage party, you know what I mean, where we're like shouldn't have been drinking, but we were, and it was at my friend's apartment. It was. I think we were 19 or 20, something like that. I think we were 19 or 20, something like that.
Speaker 2Well, it got so crammed with people and like friends of friends and people just started showing up and he like kind of went to his room and like I saw a couple people like just follow, and I'm like what's going on. So I went over there and I was like what's the matter? And he was like having a moment and he was like I, you know, I just can't, like there's just too many people and I just I was like what's the matter? And he was like having a moment and he was like I, you know, I just can't, like there's just too many people and I just I'm like do you want me to throw everyone out? And he was like no, like you can't.
Speaker 2And I'm like I can't. So I went back out there and I turned off the music and I went like that with the lights and turned them off and all like that and I was like the party's over, everyone needs to leave and everyone just like what the fuck? And I'm like go. Why are you still standing there like go, like time to go, and they all left.
Speaker 2That's amazing I'm such a good friend I'll kill you.
Speaker 1I'll kill you. Oh God, no, I've never done that. I cannot say that. I've done that, and I hope I'm not on either end of those in the near future.
Speaker 2So like I said, I'm having a party with security. Okay, I'll act that out With that. I think that kind of like has caught us all up with some of the Real Housewives stuff. I know there's a lot more. I need you to catch up because I'm fully caught up.
Speaker 1So once you catch up, we will make this one because there's some things that I need to talk about. It's so funny how the tables have finally turned. I know, I know, I know.
Speaker 2I get yeah, I will catch up.
Speaker 1I will catch up. I have nothing but time, so I will definitely catch up. I am super excited. I cannot wait until we chat again hey Rukul, what are your plans for?
Speaker 2what are you going to do for Christmas, since you're going to stay up in DC? What are you going to do?
Speaker 1you know where I think I'm going to go? I was kind of waiting. I was waiting until my mom was going to visit, but I'm not going to wait any longer. Uh, the national cathedral. You know what? Do you know what that is? No, it is well. I mean, I don't really know what it is either, but I know like I don't even know.
Housewives, Nosferatu, and Security
Speaker 1I don't even know what religion it is, or whatnot okay it's like anytime you watch a political movie or a tv show. It's the church. The president goes to right. It's the big, massive, quasimodo notre dame looking cathedral. It is gorgeous, you can just google it. It is, it is, it is. It's stunning. And I haven't been here. I drove by it one time and I was like I've seen that on TV a million times. I have to go. So a couple of my friends here they want to go for the uh, uh the service in the morning. But I just think it's going to be. It's going to be like sardines in there on Christmas morning in there on christmas morning. So I may not go, but if I do, I'm gonna do that and then that's about it. I'll wait and I think we're gonna go out for some beverages on uh, christmas night I think there's like some movie coming out christmas day.
Speaker 2I think it's the um, um nosferatu or something like that. Have you seen that?
Speaker 1no, it's very interesting well, I'm gonna spend my time watching housewives, okay, well yeah, but you're right, you're right.
Speaker 2Never mind, do that, I will catch up on that.
Speaker 1Uh, aj, do you have anything to uh send us off with?
Speaker 2um no, just don't fuck around, because then you'll find out if I have security so naughty anyway all right, everyone.
Speaker 1It has been lovely. We love you guys. We miss you guys here. Real soon you'll see us on youtube, so super excited about that. Hey, just stick around after the show. Okay, we'll talk to you guys later bye, bye now all right. Oh, I forgot. Oh, bye-bye now.
