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#45: The Bread is Moldy And The Gossip is Hot (w/Guest host Dinah Bakeer)
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So... AJ is off this week chasing big career dreams, Jay brings Dinah in, and within minutes we’re dealing with angry mothers, engagement ring decision paralysis, and a Jacksonville trip where Jay gets bullied into eating a moldy sandwich like it’s totally normal. Then the two of them spiral into The Traitors, Alan Cumming in a leather harness, Ryan Murphy being ridiculously talented, JFK Jr. thirst, and finally they start solving Dear Abby and Am I The Asshole problems like two people who absolutely should NOT be trusted with relationship advice.
Jay Welcomes Dina And Misses AJ
SPEAKER_00Well, hello, hello, hello, and welcome back to Dose of Delusion. It is me, your host, Jay. And you might notice that I'm not sitting right in front of my beautiful, lovely co-host AJ. God, I miss him so much. Don't worry, he's still around, just not with us today. But instead, I do have one of my lovely, near and dear, or soon to be near and dear friends, Dina. Dina, how are you? Tell us everything.
SPEAKER_01I am alive, well, and blessed. Uh, we miss AJ. Like, you know, I'm but I'm here. Hopefully, I will fill half of his shoes at least. Um, and yeah, just highly favored, highly blessed.
SPEAKER_00No, AJ, AJ is off doing, he's chasing some really big endeavors. So and if he actually caught these endeavors, so he's accomplishing really big things right now and just needed a small little break. I'm like, girl, go do your thing. Don't worry, I'll have you covered it for a little bit. And so again, we are so happy you're here. I am so glad you're here. We thank Tatiana for making this introduction. This is gonna be so much fun. Um, Dina, have you gotten into anything lately before I don't stop talking for the next 30 minutes? What's been going on in your life? What's new? What's hot? What's all about gossip?
SPEAKER_01So hot gossip. Personal or what is like of watching right now? You tell me whatever.
SPEAKER_00Tell me the personal gossip. I want the tea. Tell me everything. I love it.
Mothers, Guilt Trips, And Decision Paralysis
SPEAKER_01Oh my god. I'm trying to think. Um I got I I always watch the drama, but I don't know if I get to enjoy the drama. Oh my god, no, that's so much. Yes, my mom is very mad at me because I didn't get back to her while she was in Egypt. So that's the biggest drama right now.
SPEAKER_00Don't we love it? I kind of love when my mom is mad at me. I mean, I'm super close to my mother. And like she's great, but sometimes I think it's so funny when she gets mad at me because now as an adult, I find myself more like frustrated with my mother than ever. So whenever I just need to tick her off, I'm like, now you know what it feels like. Like, yeah, take that. Take that. So what happens? She's in Egypt, and you weren't what was going on there?
SPEAKER_01So she was in Egypt, and usually when she goes to Egypt, I'm like, get me some gold, get me some jewelry, get me some perfumes. And uh, well, my Cina B fiance wants to get me rings, uh, and my mom told me to send a band. Uh, I had uh decision paralysis, and then I ate some snacks and forgot to message her.
SPEAKER_00If you're not speaking my truth right now, decision paralysis. I've never called it that before. I just blame my severe ADD. Uh, but decision paralysis that's going in the book. I I love that. Wow, okay, that's cool. My mother right now is a little upset with me because recently she sent me a photo, and all it said, now I think you can relate, and maybe probably anybody, um, but she sends me a photo, and so the message came through, and all it said was, Look how thin you were in this photo. And I was just like, No, thank you. I'm not opening that photo. So, of course, I screenshot it.
SPEAKER_01Mentality, mom.
Weather Whiplash And Florida Escape
SPEAKER_00Literally, TKO. So, of course, I screenshot it. And then the message, incoming message, and I posted it all over my social media and made her the villain for like three days straight. She was not happy about that. But I did not need to be reminded of how thin and anorexic I used to be. Oh, God love them. Oh my God. Um, anyways, I um, you know what, I've had a lot going on lately. And first of all, I'm over here in the DC area where the weather has been an absolute shit show. We cannot seem to like get rid of this winter. What is that gold, gold? What is that groundhog's name? Like um Puxitani Phil or whatever. Um, he can die. He can die. This is not what I wanted. I don't know why he was so moody about it, but we can't seem to get out of this winter. It has been so cold. First of all, we were under ice for like three weeks. It's it snowed for like two, three days straight, and then we didn't leave below freezing temperatures for at least two weeks. So everything just turned into ice. So we were under two, three feet of ice for weeks, then it finally the temperature finally rose a little bit for like a day or two, then it snowed again for a couple of days, and then it finally rose for like a week. We had two beautiful days of weather on Saturday and Sunday, and then it snowed on Monday, two days ago again. So I don't know what's going on. But I got a little bit of an escape. I went to Florida. Um, I went to Jacksonville, Florida. Where? You know at the beautiful, the glamorous, highly sought-after destination of Jacksonville. Um, no, not that great, actually. But have you ever been?
SPEAKER_01I mean, they got a great football team, but you know.
SPEAKER_00You were jazzed to?
SPEAKER_01Actually, because I'm originally from Louisiana. I'm not. I'm a Saints fan first, but uh they're not our enemy team. That's the Atlanta Falcons. Um, their colors are trash anyway. So, yeah, but I've been to Jacksonville. We drove all through Florida as a Southerner, and I actually like it. It's a cute city.
SPEAKER_00Okay, so you lost me. The only reason why I know the Jacksonville Jags is a thing. Jaguars are a thing is because my like one of my best friends is a fan. If I had to know if I didn't know my best friend, I would know it have no idea those teams exist. Although I did find out recently, Tim Tebow pleased to play for Jacksonville Jaguars, and he is so fucking hot. Oh my god. Um I yeah, I okay, I'm not sure.
SPEAKER_01And a Christ in face and in spirit.
Airplane Upgrade Hacks And A Sweet Seatmate
SPEAKER_00I'm ashamed to say that when Tim Tebow was brought on my radar recently because of a small little work situation thing that we might be teaming up with. I was like, oh, Tim Tebow, of course, he's the one who dated Carrie Underwood. And people kind of like nod with me and agreed with me. And I was like, yeah. So then I went to go look him up. And because all I could think about was okay, so I went to go look him up. Because I was like, Do you remember that time when he was like sports announcing and he had a little bit, he was wearing khaki pants and a blue blazer, and then he had a little bit of a pea stain on his on his crotch. Right, there's a little, you know, casual tea thing of men. But I was like, yeah, I had a little pea stain, blah blah. Well, okay, so I'll look it up. Well, it turns out it was Tony Romo. And I was like, wow, how did I think? Yeah, exactly. See, and I was like, how did I think these two are the same person? Because I always thought Tony Romo was very attractive, and then Tim Tebow makes Tony Romo look like a fucking ogre because of how gorgeous Tim Tebow is. But, anyways, that is the extent of my Jack Tal Jaguars knowledge. Um, but I went to Jackal. That is totally fair, honestly. Um, it was a lot of fun. I went to go visit my uh one of my best friends and his son. His son had just turned one. I had not had a chance to meet the baby yet. So that was that was good, that was great. Uh the flights were good, you know. I uh got my little upgrades. One thing you don't you'll learn about me is I like to say that I live an economy plus lifestyle, not quite first class, unless I can upgrade on points, right? I will never usually dish on money to upgrade. Um, but I just I can't do coach all the time. So I always find a way to sweet talk my way into somewhat of an upgrade, which I kind of did, which was great on the way there. What I thought was actually super cute is I got on my second flight. My first flight, it was like three of us in a seat in a row, three growing men, you know. We were in Economy Plus, so it wasn't too uncomfortable, but could have been better. But then on the second leg, it was uh this lady in this family joined. Now I try to be pretty, I mean, I don't know what to say. Okay, so let me just describe it. So this family comes on and I'm sitting, and there's two seats next to me that are still empty. And this family approaches, and this guy sits next to me. He's like, Oh, it's me and my daughter. And the daughter was like, maybe five. And I was like, uh, perfect. As long as she's gonna sit in the middle, so that I have all the room I need, right? Perfect. But then I noticed he's talking to what was ended up being his wife and a few other kids who were sitting on the row across the aisle. And I was like, Hey, do you want, do you guys want me to move? I'm happy to move, right? And they're like, no, no, no, it's fine. We're we're about to spend a whole vacation together. Like, I don't need to talk to them. I'm like, cool. So I stay in my seat. And this little girl, she had what is it? When it was very obvious, the extra chromosome, uh the down syndrome, I think. Down syndrome? Yeah, yeah, I think so. So, you know, obviously, she's she visually you could tell she had a touch of the downs, which is which is super cute. She was I hope that wasn't rude to say it that way.
SPEAKER_01Maybe I mean, I I don't know. I had a coworker who used to say that and she had down syndrome. So I mean I'm not shout out Molly.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, shout out to her. Yeah, I'm not being malicious. It was it's they're adorable, right? So I'm there, and every time she accidentally like, you know, crossed her legs and touched me, her dad's like, Oh, be careful. I'm like, it's fine, don't worry. I travel with my little dog, right? I have a little like 10-pound toy poodle. He goes with me everywhere. So like I pulled my dog out and you know, let her pet him and whatnot, and it was super cute. But then I got my my phone out to start watching our shows. And at this time, I believe I was catching up on Housewives of Salt Lake City. And she kept, she would go and she would tap, tap, tap my leg, and her dad would stop her. I'm like, No, it's fine. And she'd tap and she'd be like, What's that? And I'm like, Oh, it's it's it's a show I'm watching. And she'd be like, What show? And I'd say, Oh, housewives. She's like, Okay. And she'd tap me again, who's that? And I was like, All right, girl, if we're gonna talk, we're gonna talk. So I spent this entire two-hour flight giving her the deepest backstory on the house of Salt Lake City, character for character. She was just staring, she was listening. Do was she comprehending? Probably not, but was I having the time of my life finally got somebody who could give me the attention that I deserved to talk about housewives? So that was my entire train episode. Oh my god. It was um, it was it was super neat. So then we land, and now I got to leave the super cold weather here, and I arrived to beautiful, beautiful Jacksonville, 75 to 80 degree weather. It was amazing. I need to go back again.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, well, I live in Los Angeles, so it's just Jacksonville but dry. Take out all the moisture, have to wear a lip balm.
SPEAKER_00Wait, I'm sorry. You're are you currently in LA right now?
SPEAKER_01I'm not. So I'm visiting uh Tatiana, our mutual, in Austin.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_01So I'm right now sitting in the little loft area.
SPEAKER_00So I from what I understand correctly, have friends in Austin right now for work. The weather is gorgeous there too, right?
SPEAKER_01Oh, it's amazing. It's been sunny, but like it's just it feels good. The weather just feels good. But I also love humidity. I go crazy for it. Feral.
SPEAKER_00You know, okay, so I did too. So I grew up in West Texas, uh super dry climate, and growing up there and then visiting anywhere anywhere else, they had a touch of humidity. I was like, this is disgusting. I'm melting, I'm sticky, I hate it. Well, now that I've adapted, I go home and I'm like, mother, you know, what do they call that now when you cover yourself in Vaseline slugging? Have you heard of that?
SPEAKER_02Slugging.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, like I need to slug my entire body in Vaseline because I like I cannot stand a dry climate. I'm I love the humidity. It's the best thing to happen to my skin. It's the only way I can stay youthful. Um but, anyways, so no, no I'm in Jacksonville, I'm having a great time. I didn't really see it so much as a vacation. I didn't go there as a vacation. My friend was like, hey, when you get here, where do you want to go out? What bar do you want to hit? And I'm like, Jordan, like I'm literally there to spend time with you and your family. You're hosting me in your home. You give me a room, so I'm not gonna be in and out, you know, clubbing all night long. Like, I'm there to spend time with your family. They took that and ran with it because they're like, all right, well, we're going to the the host of the party, the birthday party, and they put me to work. I was building shelves, I was doing yard work, I was cleaning, I was forced to eat. Dina, let me ask you a question. When it comes to food, are you an expiration date girly? Like, are you like if it expires on March 5th, is it going in a okay? You are okay.
Moldy Bread Diplomacy At A Birthday
SPEAKER_01I feed it to my uh my my boyfriend, just like kind of like he's like a Mary Poppins and he's the pigeons, you know. It's like you can have the expired food. I'm not doing that. Thank you.
SPEAKER_00Okay, so I you know, I have I have a mixed feelings about that. So actually, my friends used to make fun of me because I had this thing where I called it oven pizza, and for years it's never a problem. So if I ordered pizza, I'm a single person, and it's I think it's a waste of money to order delivery and just get like one small pizza. Like, come on, right? And also, yeah, like I have this other theory where every pizza is a personal pizza if you believe in yourself. So I always order, you know, a couple of large pizzas. I'll usually eat a whole one in one sitting because it's who I am, and then I kind of pick out the other one over the next few days. But what happens is I just like put the leftover pizza inside the oven and leave it, and then I pull for it for a few days. My friends get outraged by that. You mean they're like, that's disgusting, food board illness, you're gonna get sick. And I'm just thinking, listen, I don't know what kind of magic happens in the oven, but I have never gotten sick from oven pizza uh for years until one day I did. And then I was like, okay, oven pizza is no longer a thing.
SPEAKER_02Oh no.
SPEAKER_00All right, but other than that, I'm not super strict expiration dates. You know, to me, if it looks bad, smells bad, it probably is bad. We'll get rid of it. Okay, so I say all that to say is so I'm at I'm at my friend's father-in-law's house, because that's who's hosting the birthday party. It's big, massive, you know. I mean, do you have any children?
SPEAKER_01Do you I do not, but you know, pieces, right?
SPEAKER_00So, you know, like the first birthday is a big thing, right? So you know it's a big party, it's the only one they care about, essentially. So it was a massive thing. So everywhere they're setting up and whatnot, and I'm it's just it's just a lot. And my um my my friend's father-in-law is like, if anybody wants a sandwich, and I was like, Yeah, I'll take one if you're offering. And he goes, 'Well, the stuff's over here to make it.' And I was like, Okay, well, I didn't really want to make a sandwich, but it sounded like you're offering to make one, but now I have to go to make my own sandwich because if I say no, then it's very obvious that I wanted you to make the sandwich for me, right? So I'm like, yo, cool. I'll go make it. I'm on my way. I know. All right. So I go to make my sandwich, and he's like, You might want to toast the bread because it's not very, it's it's not very fresh, it's a little stale. I'm like, no big deal. So I'll pull a few slices out, I put it in a little toaster oven, I pull it out, and I see mold on the bread. And I'm like, and he sees me. Okay, now, have you watched Shits Creek? Please say yes.
SPEAKER_01I am humbly saying yes.
Traitors Watch Party And Early Spoilers
SPEAKER_00Oh, thank God. Okay. So I'm gonna bite my I'm gonna bite myself in the foot right now. Um, the mayor, the mayor. What is his name? What is the mayor's name? Um I cannot remember, but you all out there listener, you know who I'm talking about. So my friend's father-in-law is the spitting image, the epitome, the personality, the everything of this mayor, okay? Of the mayor for Shits Creek. So I look at this bread and I'm like, shit, there's a piece of mold in it, and I don't want to draw attention to it. Well, he sees me see the mold, and he walks up and he just goes with his hands, he picks it out like he's picking a swab of cotton and just chucks it over his shoulder. He's like, he's like, all right, there's no more mold in there, you're good. And I'm like, Oh, I I'm like, okay, I cannot disrespect this man in his home. You know what I mean? Clearly, eating bread by just picking up the mold is completely acceptable in this household. And who am I to tell him that that's not acceptable? So I'm like, okay, so I can tell you, I mean, give me an Oscar for how I was pretending this was completely normal. So I like finish making my sandwich, and then I flip over the other piece of bread and I see another speck of mold. And I'm looking at it, and he's looking at me, and he goes, There ain't never mold over there. And I'm just like, Oh, yeah, there's definitely no mold. So then I make the sandwich and then I hold it in a very specific way where I know the mold is and where the mold isn't, and he's watching me, and I'm watching him, and he's watching me, and I'm watching him. So I look him dead in the eye, and I take a big bite of the sandwich where I know there's more mold, and I it reminded me of like in The Bridesmaids when she's like, I would love a Jordan Almond. And she that is exactly what happened, and so I ate this, and I was like, Oh my god. So my friend Jordan was still outside doing yard work, and somebody goes, So, um, who's gonna offer Jordan a sandwich? I was like, I will. And I ran outside, I'm like, Jordan, I don't know what the fucking do. I was like, your father-in-law is like forcing me to eat the sandwich, it's a little bit moldy. I'm panicking, I'm freaking out. They told me to offer you one. Obviously, your answer is no. And he was like, fuck. Okay, well, tell him you're gonna come out here and you're gonna help me. So then I go inside and they're like, all right, everybody sit down, we're gonna eat these sandwiches. And I'm like, I don't know what to fucking do. So luckily, I guess my performance wasn't that great because my uh Jordan's wife, right? Um, this man's daughter, was like, You don't have to eat that. She whispered to me. And I was like, I'm not gonna disrespect your father and his own home. And she's like, hey, Jay, let's go outside and look at my my dad's new plants. We went outside and she chucked that so far. I mean, Tim Chibo would have been happy, assuming he throws the football. She chucked it so far out into their woods where they live. And um that's when I was told by Jordan, he was like, I, Jordan tells me, I am an expiration date Nazi. I can't say that these days. He's I am very strict on expiration dates, and my wife's family is not. And I'm like, clearly, clearly they're not. Um, so that was my the highlight of my Jacksonville story, um, which was really frustrating. But then what I did do, Dina that night is I made them watch traders.
SPEAKER_01Oh, excellent. Well, you gave them a gift. I'm just like, oh, and then in exchange for like, you know, penicillin sandwich, you were like, here, I'm gonna improve your life exponentially.
SPEAKER_00I cannot believe you called it a penicillin sandwich. Um, that's brilliant. That was that's that's perspective. That's perspective. Um, no, yes, I'm gonna watch Traders. Uh, and I was just like, listen, I have to watch this because it's already a day late. You know, it came out on Friday, it was already Saturday, and I was like, you know, I'm chronically online and I'm gonna get spoilers. So I made them watch it. I was like, go put that baby in the room, shut the door, crack the window, come out here. We're gonna watch this. And um, I think I got them into it. But let me tell you, have you so you've been following traders then, right? I think you said yes.
SPEAKER_01Yes, but I'm refreshing my knowledge of the show because I've been traveling, I've been doing a lot of stuff. So right now with Tatiana, we've gotten through I want to say four episodes, but I am open to spoilers.
SPEAKER_00No, oh my god, I can't.
SPEAKER_01Honestly, you have to. I can't because I need to know what happens to Lisa Rina.
SPEAKER_00I I can't spoil. Okay, I'll give you that much of a spoiler. I'll give you that much. I'll give you that much. I mean, I'm not gonna tell you who makes it to the final three. I'm not gonna tell you who is the winner of the show. Um, but I will tell you that Lisa Rena will obviously didn't win the show and didn't make it to the final three. Uh, but I think she played a pretty no, she played she played a six and a half out of ten for her game.
SPEAKER_01Six and a half out of ten. Yeah, I can see that.
SPEAKER_00I'm literally so jealous that you haven't seen it yet because I wish I could go back to seeing the final episode. It was it is okay, so okay, so yeah, so you're four episodes, four-ish episodes in. Who are some of your your characters that are that are doing it for you right now?
SPEAKER_01Oh, I'm a housewife stan. I'm team housewife. I hear like housewives and gamers, I'm like, they're not on the same level. Lisa Renna is my queen. She is my Alpha and Omega. Um Let's see. I really like Well, they've kicked off Porsche. So I'm obsessed with that.
SPEAKER_00Episode one.
SPEAKER_01Episode one. Like Porsche seriously? Like, come on. Like, let's have some tactics here. And then uh let's see. Well, tell me one of your favorites.
SPEAKER_00But you know about Porsche, though, right now, this isn't any this isn't because I've seen the whole season already. You know, right after they kicked her off, and then of course the after shows that she's talking about and social media, she's like, editing did me dirty because you know, somebody did hear me say, I murdered so and so, but what they didn't hear was you know. Let me put myself in the mind of a traitor. If I'm a traitor, then I murdered so-and-so. So somebody didn't hear that beginning portion. Well, let me rephrase that. Lisa Renna obviously did hear that beginning portion, but she was being a traitor and convincing everybody that she only said I murdered so-and-so. And then editing didn't do Porsche solid either because they only showed the clip of I murdered so-and-so. So that was that was pretty crazy. Seeing Porsche leave so early was a little bit of a bummer to me. I would have rather see Ron Bunches go. I mean, I thought he was dead in the water. I think he was a waste of airtime.
SPEAKER_02I thought so too. It's crazy.
SPEAKER_00He he was so dramatic. Oh, speaking of Ron, okay, so Ron, like, I don't like his attitude at all. It was very negative. And also, I don't remember. You're you're four episodes in, so I know you've already seen it. She, I don't know what show she was from. I'm not sure if she was a house herb or not, but she was she was African-American, she's black, she's black female. During a lot of her interviews or her confessionals, she was like, or it might have been a round table, but she was like, No, I I'm here to play a game because I really need this money. Do you know who I'm talking about? I don't, I don't remember who that is. Yeah. Okay, we're gonna look it up.
SPEAKER_01Oh, there's one that's a traitor, but yeah, we need to look it up.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, okay, let's look it up. Traders. Let's see who has the fastest Google fingers.
SPEAKER_02Yes, okay.
Housewife Stans, Rob R., And Show Tensions
SPEAKER_00Season four. Okay. So we are talking about. Oh, I have some controversial opinions on some of these characters now that I'm looking at them. Oh, who is that? I remember him. Oh, yeah, I do remember him. Um, there's Candace, gorgeous Mora, Donna Kelsey. We've got to talk about her in a minute. Oh my goodness. That's a mess. Tiffany Mitchell, big brother. That's who it was. Yes. So I think people like Tiffany Mitchell and Ron Bunches, and you'll learn later on when you finish the season. We're taking it a little bit too seriously, too personal.
SPEAKER_01Like, we're here to have fun, have a few drinks, like we're playing basically like IRL clue. And she's like with like Michael Rappaport, just like, oh, playing this whole game. I'm like, y'all need to loosen up a little. Like, that was that was a lot.
SPEAKER_00It was excessive. And you know what? Now that now that you brought up Michael, here's the deal. I don't I think he ruined it for me. I've actually been a big fan of Michael Rappaport as an actor, an actor. And I've also seen, like, I think his social media posts are also kind of funny sometimes too. I haven't seen any of the, I guess, political ones recently, but over the last few years, he was in a TV show that I loved called Oh my goodness. Um, he was the father of a of an autistic child. Did you ever see that one?
SPEAKER_01Sam Sam Wikipedia yesterday.
SPEAKER_00Sam Gardner. Sam Gardner was the uh was the character Michael Rappapore. He did this TV show that I love called Atypical. There we go. So it's Atypical and I heard it was good. Oh my god, it was so good. It was the only show that made me realize I was a little bit neurodivergent, I guess is the proper way to say it, because I remember watching the whole show, the whole show, and thinking, there isn't a single episode where I don't find strikingly similar qualities between myself and this autistic character. And I was like, I'm just on a different, higher functioning level. And this is before everybody was diagnosed, everybody was either diagnosed or self-diagnosing with neurodivergence or some level of autism. But I was like, oh no, I definitely fall into this category one way or another. But otherwise, so I've always kind of been a fan of Michael Rappaport until this traitors season. I felt that he was really disgusting in his behavior. You're only four episodes in, girl. It gets worse going on.
SPEAKER_01His behavior prior to the show. Um, I don't want to get political because we're here to be loosey-goosey and cute, but he definitely had some very passionately mean and nasty and hostile thoughts towards Palestinians. So already I was going in with uh kind of just like a this guy is mad. He's mad. This is his genetic, his his anger is genetic. Um, so but then like I hated that I was validated. I was almost hoping that we could get like that charming, cool, talented person like on the screen. And it just seemed like he was putting everyone on edge. Again, like we're here to have a fun time and honestly have a have a drink, have a think, and sit down.
SPEAKER_00Well, I I am shame, ashamed to say that I I didn't know that. I'm also ashamed to say that I'm just I'm out of tune with a lot of politics stuff, but I am proud to say that because I'm out of tune with it, and it's not by choice, I'm not like, you know, like making the conscious decision to like not pay attention. I just don't. I think it might be my social media. I mean, I'm not searching it. You know, I've built my algorithms brick by brick, and I'm pretty proud of those, and very few things come in. But because I know that I'm not well versed in what's going on, I also don't provide opinions because I know that I'm not educated enough to provide an informed opinion. So I will, I will take, I will take a back seat on that. So, with that said, like I really didn't know that about micro rapid ports. That's good to know. Thanks for enlightening me on that.
SPEAKER_01Um, well, absolutely, but it's also really cool that you set up your algorithm for health. And so word of mouth is a way to do it if you need to know. I'm a nosy bitch who hates for gossip.
SPEAKER_00Gossip is my favorite flavor, anyways. Um, no, so I love that. I who else have I living on the show? Obviously, Lisa Rena is fantastic. Now, I would have to say something about Rob. Rob R. So I did not get this hype, you know, it's episode one, two, three, four. Everyone is obsessed with Rob. The world is obsessed with Rob. Social media is obsessed with Rob. And I'm like, I just don't see it. Now, don't get me wrong, would I kick him out of bed? Absolutely not. But I'm just like, I don't see it. Girl, as the show went on, I fell in love. Love. And I was like, I don't know what took me so long to see it, but it almost got to the point where I was like, I love him. He's hurt, he is wounded, I can fix him. Um, he seems like a really humble person. Now, rumor has it that he comes from a very, very wealthy family, right? That's from what I've heard on these like these back pages and other blogs and other like Bravo and reality TV show historians. That he comes from a very wealthy family, but he makes a lot of comments uh throughout the next few episodes where he's like really hoping to win the money to like you know take care of of you know a future family and whatnot, which I don't, you know, will the wealthy family versus 100k minus taxes, like I'm not too sure how I feel about that. But I love Rob R. So, anyways, what I'm trying to say is I've been obsessed with traders, and what pisses me off is it's like the number one show in America right now, and every time I ask somebody about it, no one knows what I'm talking about, and it makes no sense to me. Like, how can you not know who the amazing, perfect, articulated knows how to work a camera and serve a look, Alan Cummings? Like, how?
Alan Cumming Storytime And Nightlife
SPEAKER_01Absolute king. So I think Tatiana mentioned, possibly, that I did have a run-in with him. Tell me everything. I'm happy. So um, I like to go with my friend to like, you know, the gay club scene in New York back in the day because gay men actually expect you to dress up. And I'm not putting on all this makeup in a dress just to like have a straight man look at me and not even think about it. So very fun parties with the ronda parties, all that stuff. At some point, we end up at a bar called Eastern Block, and it is leather night.
SPEAKER_02Ooh, a bit of a nice.
SPEAKER_01And I'm like, I'm like, not for me, but it is for thee. All right, like, let's have some fun. So I walk in, I'm holding a drink, and a man bumps up to me, and I'm just like, this is not my space. I just look up, and it's Alan Cumming in like a leather harness. And he's so polite. He's like, I'm so sorry, are you okay? Like, touches my shoulder, just like making sure. And I'm just like, Oh, you are fabulous. Like, I was I very rarely had starstruck. That was one.
SPEAKER_00I have never been more envy of anything in my entire life. I cannot believe not only did you meet the Alan coming, you physically ran into him in a gay space while he's wearing a leather harness. That is the trifecta of joy. Holy shit balls. How did how how did he look? Like, how how did he look? So he looked, he looks amazing for his age. How long ago was this?
SPEAKER_01So I want to say this was about 10 years ago. So he looked a little different, but great skin, not afraid to wear a little bit of sparkle, a little bit of makeup, which I love. Um, obviously, as you see in the show, he does serve looks like this as the man. Um, good body, great body, actually.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Um, so I mean, overall, it's like, you know, when you see like someone in person, you're like, oh, this is this is different. Like it was in person. I was like almost just like, you're really good looking. Wow. Okay.
SPEAKER_00You know, I I've met a handful of celebrities in my day, and none of them I've I have felt like, oh, you look better in person. You know, it's always like, oh, you look better with an inch of makeup and pitch perfect lighting, you know, which grandma say, I'm not saying it looked hideous by any means whatsoever, but I'm just like, oh, you know, the the your your your glam team and lighting squad is really doing you a favor. So occasionally when I do hear stories of celebrities who like look better off camera, I'm like, man, God really does bless with both hands. Not me, but them. You know, they definitely did. So lucky for them, and they better cherish that. Oh my god, that's so exciting. If I could go back, I would write about that. That would be a pivotal chapter in my autobiography. Oh my God.
SPEAKER_01I need to commit it to memory and put it in my memoir.
SPEAKER_00I'm I'm going to, I have to meet him. I have to make sure that he's actually gonna be the host of the of the I don't want to say the season five, but so if I understand correctly, I'm not I haven't watched every um franchise of traders, but I know Traders UK has their regular people version. Well, what should we call regular people? What should we call them?
SPEAKER_01Civilians? That sounds a little bit.
SPEAKER_00I guess, yeah. Because we'll we'll call it the reality one. Yeah, there's reality army, they're the reality army, and then civilians. So they have like a regular civilian one, and then they have their um celebrity one. So we're doing America is doing a regular one, and I think you know what I'm I'm gonna submit an audition tape. Like I have a script, I've been working on a script for about a week now. Uh, I have many takes in front of this camera right here, over and over and over again. And I just don't know how dramatic to make it. Pardon me, what do you think about this? Uh, one of my ideas is to make it look like and go and do the editing on it, to make it look make it look like I want it to match the trader's confessional. The trader's confessional look. I want the name to pop up, and when it says my name and on the bottom, like my title, I want to be like my name and like future cast member, hopefully. You know, like that's that's that's that's what I'm leaning towards. I don't know how cheesy that is, but I mean maybe they'll take it because it's cheesy. Who knows?
Casting Dreams And Audition Tape Ideas
SPEAKER_01Well, like I think it shows effort, it shows that you are a skilled person, and I think it's just cute. I love that.
SPEAKER_00I hope so. I only have a few days left to put it together. I think I have about a week, so I'm gonna work on that. I'm super excited. Um, I I absolutely cannot wait now. I could talk about Trey Taws forever, but I I do have to ask you about another show that I really got myself obsessed with. Have you been watching or at least heard of the Ryan Murphy or FX love story? I think it's gonna be another one of those um what are the like what do they call them? An an anthology where every season doesn't necessarily pay like have to do with the last season.
SPEAKER_02Oh, limited series, I guess.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, but I think it's me, like I think it's me multiple ones. Yeah, I think it's I think this is the first one, and it is the JFK Jr. and Carolyn Bissett love story. I have you have you heard of that or watched it yet?
SPEAKER_01I know the story. I found out what perfume she wears. She's super elegant. I have not seen it yet. I watched American Crime Story, but I need some positivity, and that sounds like a fantastic show to watch.
SPEAKER_00I mean, you know, they die in the end, but positivity, sure. Anyways.
SPEAKER_01Kennedys are not known for happy endings, but uh I'll let my brain worm take over that conversation.
JFK Jr. And Carolyn: Ryan Murphy’s Love Story
SPEAKER_00Um no, okay, so I was a little too young. Um I wanna I will not ask you your age here. I was a little young. I think I was probably 13, 14-ish when uh Camelot went down in flames, but I um, you know, the only president that I would instantly smash would have been JFK. I mean, I go to the portrait gallery here in the at the Smithsonian in DC just to look at his picture because it makes me feel a certain kind of way. I think he's gorgeous. And then obviously I've seen the clips and YouTube videos and all the things in the past of JFK Jr. And he is so incredibly handsome. So then I start watching this. Now, I have to admit, Ryan Murphy. I won't say Ryan Murphy never misses. There's been at least one thing I can think of that I did not like, but it could just be me. But Ryan Murphy, for the most part, hits almost every time. He is fantastic. I think he casts really well. Um, I will tell you, one of my favorite characters in it is Naomi Watts as Jackie Onassis Kennedy. Uh, I don't quite understand the accent because if I understand correctly, Jacqueline Kennedy was Merrick was American, right?
SPEAKER_01Yes. So I think so. I could be wrong. She may have been like uh like overseas educated, but I don't know. But she's American, as far as I know.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, same here. And Naomi Watts did not cover her accent for for filming or for the for the for her character, I should say, which is fine. It's fine, you know. You could just chalk it up to the the wealth accents, you know what I mean? Um, you know, what's her name? Direet could be the the Dereet Hemsley.
SPEAKER_01Oh my god, the Darit Matroishka of the absolutely crazy accents. Naomi, you're good, and that's super comparing the two.
SPEAKER_00So, no, um I'm watching it. First of all, I like to say I grew up in the 90s, but I didn't grow up in 90s, New York. But realistically, I grew up in a 90s as a child, being up until around 10, 11 years old. I I think it had to be born in late 70s, early 80s to say I grew up in a 90s as a late teenager, a young adult. Anyways, never in my life have I wanted to transport back to New York 90s as I have while watching this show. It is it is beautiful, it is fantastic. It's actually reminiscent of a lot of the fashion I'm seeing today. And, you know, I'm seeing a lot of the what I like to say Gen Z is wearing. And I'm watching this show, and I'm like, oh, this is the style of fashion that's circling back, and Gen Z is doing it wrong. Like they are doing it so wrong. If if that is if it is the fashion from the 90s coming back, um, it is gorgeous. Now, let me tell you, other than Naomi Watts, I don't think there's any other super large actors or well-known actors in this. So if I recall correctly, if I recall, as if I didn't write the notes down right here. Um, JFK is played it by Paul Kelly, he's a Canadian model, and I didn't have to write a note for that because I've already been like Googling the hell out of him. Girl, uh Dina, he is he is so fucking hot. He is gorgeous, he is styled so basic. He's mainly walking around in a t-shirt and jeans, maybe a blazer at the most. So if he's not wearing a suit for a work thing in the in the show, um he's uh he uh what's her name? Um Tyra Banks would would be uh in love with him right now because he can act with his eyes so well. He plays such a hurt and wounded man, and you can read it in his eyes, and he is just gorgeous. He's in his late 30s, he was a model, and then I just heard recently, in fact, maybe even today, that um he was interviewed at Vanity Fair, and the the interviewer said, believe it or not, he's even more attractive in person. So I was like, oh my god, and then don't even get me started on the actress who plays Carolyn Bassett. She is, I mean, Sarah Pigeon is her name, she's pretty young, she's an American actress, she's 29. She how do I say this? Um JFK's character may be the lead, but Sarah Pigeon is the star. She she is really stealing the show. Uh, you need to watch it. It's a quick watch. It is fantastic. We all we all know the ending, so no need to worry about that. But um, it is it is quite the show to watch. Listener, watch it. Dina, watch it. I expect you to watch it so we can come back and do a full recap on it. Okay.
SPEAKER_02Wait.
SPEAKER_00Where were you? Do you remember where you were when you heard the news that um JFK and Carolyn died?
SPEAKER_01Uh I think I was in school. Like, I think, like, you know, just me, my pigtails, and my missing tooth at that time. So classic. You know, just just a good look. It's just a lurk. Uh second, you know, I think like I was in class and our teachers were like, How do we explain this to like children? And then my mom was just like, here's what happened. And I was like, oh my god. I was like, Oh my god, here's the here's the truth. This is what happened. And I was just like, oh my god, mom. She's the kind of woman who watched like the all the all the true crime coverage throughout like the 90s and all that stuff.
SPEAKER_00So she was just I mean, that can that Kennedy curse is a weird thing, is a real thing. I mean, it has to be. Um, that is absolutely wild. No, it's it's so good. It's so good. Once again, Ryan Murphy, he he's he's an EP on it. I don't know if he was a writer, but he's definitely the executive producer. So, and and you can tell by just the cinematography, and and I think he was a writer because it kind of gives his style. He also was the writer and producer of um Feud, which was another anthology. Okay, so you know what I'm talking about. Oh my god, I love you so much.
SPEAKER_01Yes, it's like one of the greatest of all.
SPEAKER_00Oh my god, the Joan Crawford, right?
SPEAKER_01Yes, Joan and Bet, like that legendary, legendary. I wish I had an enemy like that.
SPEAKER_00So, what was the other one after that with uh high society women? What was Naomi Watts was in that one?
SPEAKER_01Uh Truman Capote.
SPEAKER_00Yes, Truman Capote. The Swans. That was also fantastic. I'm telling you, Ryan Murphy, and he's also very, very fucking handsome. Oh, God, I love it.
SPEAKER_02Um, he does not.
90s New York Aesthetic And Casting Praise
SPEAKER_00Hopefully, please don't. I don't want to hear anything in the near future in the news. Please don't do anything wrong. Um, I love that. No, but I've I've been obsessed with that. That's what I've been up to lately. It's been really hard trying to, you know, balance all of this binge watching. I mean, we didn't even get to Housewives, but that might be a whole different episode. All of this binge watching with with with everything. But I do want to get into something here. I like doing this. I like doing a little bit of um Dear Abby questions and seeing how well we we level up with um with Abby's responses. So I got one for us here, okay? All right. I have one here. Dear Abby, I am a gay man who matched with, oh, and for the record, I have not read Abby's answer yet. Okay. So she goes, the writer says, Dear Abby, I am a gay man who matched with another guy on a dating site two years ago this month. At first, we texted constantly. No one has ever made me feel the way he made me feel through texting alone. Sounds like love bombing, if you ask me. I'm not there yet. All right. He displayed qualities that set him apart from anyone else I have talked to. We made a date, but he canceled at the last minute because of cold feet. He requested more time to get to know each other before meeting. Now, for the past two years, we have continued to message each other, though not nearly as often. He says very much he wants to meet, but he says he's intimidated by my accomplishments in life and is convinced that I won't like him. Abby, he is more accomplished than most of the guys I date. Now, I've tried desperately to convince him to meet me so we may both find out if we are a good match. In the meantime, I continue to date other guys because I want to find someone to share my life with. My desire to meet him overshadows most of my attempts to date others. Um, his statements that he badly wants to meet me but is afraid to is so incredibly frustrating. Should I block him from contacting me further so I can focus on other people or um keep doing what I've been doing? Signed frustrated in Kentucky. What are your thoughts?
SPEAKER_01Oh my God. That immediately takes me to catfish, right? Like it's like there's something about you, whether it was your pictures or your background, that you're just like, you're you're he's hiding something. And for two years, if he really liked you, he'd meet up with you, right? That's crazy. I would mute, I would just mute him like and just watch his texts come in, just goodbye.
SPEAKER_00Two two years is wild. Now I will say something here. I have been on the other side of this before, where I'll chat with somebody. I have a I have a lot of insecurities. It's unhealthy, I need to be studied, or just get therapy. But, anyways, I have insecurities. So I will match with somebody on a on a site, and you know, I rate myself out of one to ten, which I will not say the number here. And then I think, okay, well, somebody who's into me should be maybe no more than one and a half to two notches higher. So when somebody higher than my personal rating is like appearing attracted to me, I'm like, it's a trap. Something's wrong. Who paid you? What are you doing? Oh, you want to meet me? Everything is great until meeting, and then I'm like, I can't, I can't do it. He's gonna see me no matter how hard I make sure. This is how psycho I am, Dina. Whenever I finally decide to refresh my dating apps about every two years or so, and it's terrible. I will get a group chat with all of my, not necessarily my closest friends, but my most honest friends. Sometimes the friends who probably shouldn't be my friend because they're a little rude, right? The friends who flirt with that fine line between brutal honesty and rudeness, they're in that group chat. And I will submit 10 pictures and I'll say, guys, tell me which pictures look like me, don't look like the best version of me, you know, aren't at all the greatest angles, look like one that make me look good and are true to my my color, my weight, my height, my round face, you know, every little thing, because I never want to be accused of like catfishing, right? So that's how like cuckoo I get with fucking delusional. I get with these with me online. So sometimes when I feel someone is a little more attractive than me, in the last minute, I will get cold, cold feet and I'm like, can't make it or guilty. I've been guilty of just ghosting, but I've never carried it on after that. Like I'm usually too ashamed that I block or unmatched and I block. Two years? That's absurd.
SPEAKER_01That's a toddler's worth of ghosting. I'm just saying. Like, that's out of control, unacceptable. Oh god.
SPEAKER_00Okay, well, let's see what Abby had to say about this. All right, so Abby says, Dear, frustrated, there may be a logical reason why this relationship has not progressed. Obviously, um, the man whom with you are communicating may not at all be who he says he is. Ooh, Dina, I like it. Take a bow. Because you have invested so much time and emotion in trying to meet him, offer him one more chance to meet. Girl, you're too much. Tell him that if he can't bring himself to do that, you are ending the relationship. It's not a fucking relationship. You're ending the relationship and will block him from contacting you further. Then follow through. Consider it being taking a giant step forward in your life. You deserve better than the teasing you have been receiving. The teasing you've been receiving. Should a little way with words there. Um, good job. Okay, okay. I have one more before I let you go back to your life. Um, I love myself. I I love um Am I the Asshole threads because they make me feel a lot better about myself. All right.
SPEAKER_01Oh yes. I I love I know.
Dear Abby: Two-Year Text Situationship
SPEAKER_00Okay, okay, here we go, here we go. Am I the asshole? Hey, I've been close with my I've been close with my friends for years. I'm honestly at my limits. She's been single for about three years and dates constantly. Every breakup is apparently the guy's fault. They're intimidated, they're broke, they're insecure, they're not masculine enough, they don't step up. I've listened to the same speech over and over. The thing is, I've watched how she dates. She's hysterical, excuse me. She's hypocritical from the start. If a guy doesn't text the exact way she likes, he's low effort. If he doesn't pay for everything, he's dusty. If he shows emotion too soon, she says he gives her the ick. If he doesn't plan something extravagant early on, he's not serious. She always says she wants a provider, but also someone who's emotionally intelligent, but also dominant, but also soft, but also obsessed with her, but not clingy. It's like the requirements to the requirements change every single week. The other night, she was with her the other night, she was complaining about a guy she dumped because his birthday dinner for her wasn't special enough after six weeks. She went on a rant about how men just can't handle a woman like her. I told her, maybe it's that she's exhausting to date and no one actually likes her personality. No one actually likes her personality once you get to know her. She just stared at me. Then she said I was jealous, bitter, and secretly happy she's single. She said, Real friendships hype each other up, not tear each other down. I probably could have written it better, but I also feel like somebody had to say it. And now she's not talking to me. Am I the asshole?
SPEAKER_01Um, okay. Let's start with the friend. She's doing wrong. She's bananas. This is straight men. Deal with it. Um, but on top of that, like at some point she doesn't have a level of self-awareness, right? But the person writing in, I'd also say is an asshole. Because A, whenever people are ranting, I just ask, like, hey, do you want advice or do you want comfort?
SPEAKER_00Thank you.
SPEAKER_01Like, I if you want to hear it real talk, like, let's let me know. If you want me to just get you like a pint of ice cream and let you pick your favorite show, okay. Um, so it's just like not reading the room. I think like part of the thing is like this friend is eventually either gonna learn or just I don't know, like be an Orange County housewife divorce. Who knows? Which, you know, it's a dream, right? Orange County Hills or nothing, yeah. Or oh, even better. That's out of the friend's zip code based on our dating history, but Orange County's wow.
SPEAKER_00Okay, so I once again have to admit to being the bad friend here. I shouldn't say bad friend, the asshole. And I think I think I can go out on out on a limb and say, like being an asshole doesn't mean you're a bad friend, right? So words mean things. Now I have uh one of one of my closest friends. I do feel like you could have more than one best friend because there's different parts of your life, right? So one of my other best friends, uh, she and I are very close. And I I similar to this, you know, I think a lot of women they they identify as a strong, independent woman, but also want to be taken care of. You know, no man can tell me what to do, but also want to be dominated, you know, right? Uh I don't need no man, but also I can't hang up a picture without a man, you know? And me being just period, a man, and then second period, a gay man. I'm like, I don't understand this. Like, right? Like it's not making, it's not making any sense. And so I remember a few years ago, I much like this sort of reached my breaking point, and I said what I thought she needed to hear. And then cut two, three weeks later, she's crying on my couch because of how I'm not about these men, but because how I made her feel. You know, she's like, you're my best friend, and you hurt my feelings more than any of those of the men that I'm dating. And I had the conundrum of I stand by everything that I said, but now in retrospect or hindsight, which is 2020, words mean things. And there are ways to say things that have the same intent without being an asshole. And I think that's where this bitch went wrong. Do I think the other girl is psycho crazy?
SPEAKER_01Of course. I mean, naturally, but to your point, her rift eye was out of pocket. If someone told me that, let me first of all let me be Dululu crazy. I'm having a good time here.
SPEAKER_00Second of all, girl, live your best delusional life. I I love it.
AITA: Brutal Honesty And Friendship Lines
SPEAKER_01Like, look, I I want a fantasy, not nonfiction. Come on.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. Um, oh my god. Okay, well, um, I am so happy you came here. Uh, once again, AJ, I know you're listening. Oh, you better listen, AJ. I know I know you're listening. Uh, we miss you. We love you. Dina misses you. We cannot wait to have you back. Dina, thank you so much for coming on here. Guys, don't forget to look at us uh look us up on Instagram at Dose of Delusion podcast. You can find me at BJ Allday on Instagram. You can find me on TikTok at the Morally CorruptJ David. And uh, Dina, where can they find you?
SPEAKER_01You can find me on Instagram as pure internet gold.
SPEAKER_00Oh, I love that. Awesome. All right, folks. Thank you so much. Dina, thank you so much. We will see you guys next week's. Take care now. Bye bye.
