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But we'll be"},{"speaker":"Christine Malec","startTime":2519.879,"endTime":2523.224,"body":"talking about Star Wars, again,"},{"speaker":"Christine Malec","startTime":2519.879,"endTime":2523.224,"body":"in subsequent episodes,"},{"speaker":"Christine Malec","startTime":2523.285,"endTime":2527.116,"body":"particularly related to Obi Wan."},{"speaker":"Christine Malec","startTime":2523.285,"endTime":2527.116,"body":"So if there are specifics that"},{"speaker":"Christine Malec","startTime":2527.177,"endTime":2531.131,"body":"you're dying to know more about,"},{"speaker":"Christine Malec","startTime":2527.177,"endTime":2531.131,"body":"let us know on social media, and"},{"speaker":"Christine Malec","startTime":2531.191,"endTime":2534.901,"body":"may the Force be with you. We"},{"speaker":"Christine Malec","startTime":2531.191,"endTime":2534.901,"body":"hope you're loving the show. 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