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This"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":30.69,"endTime":34.53,"body":"is talk description to Me where"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":34.53,"endTime":37.47,"body":"the visuals of current events"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":34.53,"endTime":37.47,"body":"and the world around us get"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":37.47,"endTime":40.41,"body":"hashtag in description rich"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":37.47,"endTime":40.41,"body":"conversations."},{"speaker":"Christine Malec","startTime":47.37,"endTime":50.04,"body":"Today we are"},{"speaker":"Christine Malec","startTime":47.37,"endTime":50.04,"body":"diving into a realm of a deep"},{"speaker":"Christine Malec","startTime":50.04,"endTime":54.42,"body":"mystery for me, which is video"},{"speaker":"Christine Malec","startTime":50.04,"endTime":54.42,"body":"games and specifically"},{"speaker":"Christine Malec","startTime":54.45,"endTime":58.92,"body":"Minecraft. And there's there's"},{"speaker":"Christine Malec","startTime":54.45,"endTime":58.92,"body":"way more to talk about here than"},{"speaker":"Christine Malec","startTime":59.16,"endTime":64.32,"body":"I had thought. And some of it is"},{"speaker":"Christine Malec","startTime":59.16,"endTime":64.32,"body":"quite surprising. So for those"},{"speaker":"Christine Malec","startTime":64.32,"endTime":67.98,"body":"of you like me still sort of"},{"speaker":"Christine Malec","startTime":64.32,"endTime":67.98,"body":"crawling out of the ooze when it"},{"speaker":"Christine Malec","startTime":67.98,"endTime":70.95,"body":"comes to this stuff, we're going"},{"speaker":"Christine Malec","startTime":67.98,"endTime":70.95,"body":"to start with a very basic sense"},{"speaker":"Christine Malec","startTime":70.95,"endTime":75.6,"body":"of what Minecraft is. So JJ, can"},{"speaker":"Christine Malec","startTime":70.95,"endTime":75.6,"body":"you give us an overview?"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":75.78,"endTime":80.13,"body":"Yeah, Minecraft is what"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":75.78,"endTime":80.13,"body":"they call a sandbox video game."},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":80.31,"endTime":84.15,"body":"Essentially, a sandbox game is a"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":80.31,"endTime":84.15,"body":"game that allows a high degree"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":84.15,"endTime":88.26,"body":"of creativity, for completing"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":84.15,"endTime":88.26,"body":"tasks and building worlds and so"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":88.26,"endTime":92.97,"body":"forth. 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