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So that's what"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":215.49,"endTime":219.54,"body":"I spent my time doing is"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":215.49,"endTime":219.54,"body":"researching the overall look."},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":219.54,"endTime":223.05,"body":"And I got to say, it's been a"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":219.54,"endTime":223.05,"body":"pretty fun week watching YouTube"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":223.05,"endTime":228.0,"body":"videos of people dancing. It is,"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":223.05,"endTime":228.0,"body":"it is fun, it is joyful. It's"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":228.0,"endTime":231.3,"body":"really nice, especially as a guy"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":228.0,"endTime":231.3,"body":"who doesn't dance very much"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":231.3,"endTime":234.96,"body":"himself to like, indulge and"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":231.3,"endTime":234.96,"body":"other people dancing. It's been"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":234.96,"endTime":236.4,"body":"a it's been a fun week, I gotta"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":234.96,"endTime":236.4,"body":"say."},{"speaker":"Christine Malec","startTime":236.46,"endTime":238.62,"body":"So let's go"},{"speaker":"Christine Malec","startTime":236.46,"endTime":238.62,"body":"back to the sort of the more"},{"speaker":"Christine Malec","startTime":238.62,"endTime":242.37,"body":"classical kind of dance which is"},{"speaker":"Christine Malec","startTime":238.62,"endTime":242.37,"body":"ballet. What can you tell us"},{"speaker":"Christine Malec","startTime":242.37,"endTime":243.81,"body":"about the overall look of that?"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":243.87,"endTime":249.15,"body":"Okay, so ballet is, of"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":243.87,"endTime":249.15,"body":"course, very formal. 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So sometimes there's a"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":381.51,"endTime":385.05,"body":"little tippy toe kind of"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":381.51,"endTime":385.05,"body":"movement that goes with that."},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":385.11,"endTime":389.88,"body":"But not always. Sometimes that's"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":385.11,"endTime":389.88,"body":"just how you walk - on point. 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These dips,"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":758.31,"endTime":763.98,"body":"these leaps, these hoists are"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":758.31,"endTime":763.98,"body":"huge. They're big, broad"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":763.98,"endTime":767.97,"body":"movements. And it's incredibly"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":763.98,"endTime":767.97,"body":"acrobatic, really acrobatic."},{"speaker":"Christine Malec","startTime":768.45,"endTime":770.61,"body":"If you didn't"},{"speaker":"Christine Malec","startTime":768.45,"endTime":770.61,"body":"hear the music, and you were"},{"speaker":"Christine Malec","startTime":770.61,"endTime":774.51,"body":"just watching the dance that the"},{"speaker":"Christine Malec","startTime":770.61,"endTime":774.51,"body":"swing dancing, would you know"},{"speaker":"Christine Malec","startTime":774.51,"endTime":776.31,"body":"what the rhythm of the music is?"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":777.42,"endTime":779.43,"body":"Great question. God,"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":777.42,"endTime":779.43,"body":"you're good at this."},{"speaker":"Christine Malec","startTime":779.43,"endTime":779.55,"body":"Ha ha!"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":779.7,"endTime":787.08,"body":"Okay. So yes, you would"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":779.7,"endTime":787.08,"body":"definitely be able to, you would"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":787.08,"endTime":791.01,"body":"be able to follow the because of"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":787.08,"endTime":791.01,"body":"this in and out and because of"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":791.01,"endTime":794.79,"body":"the shuffling of the feet,"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":791.01,"endTime":794.79,"body":"there's a lot of swinging of"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":794.79,"endTime":799.56,"body":"hips back and forth. 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Is there a"},{"speaker":"Christine Malec","startTime":893.76,"endTime":895.35,"body":"wardrobe for swing dancing?"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":895.38,"endTime":900.9,"body":"Yeah, so with swing"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":895.38,"endTime":900.9,"body":"dancing men are wearing baggy"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":900.9,"endTime":905.04,"body":"pants, and women are usually"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":900.9,"endTime":905.04,"body":"wearing skirts, quite often"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":905.04,"endTime":910.32,"body":"wearing skirts. So as you get"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":905.04,"endTime":910.32,"body":"flung about pant legs or"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":910.32,"endTime":915.57,"body":"flapping skirts or flying up, it"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":910.32,"endTime":915.57,"body":"just adds to the kind of wild"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":915.63,"endTime":920.76,"body":"untamed look of it. 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Totally different"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":1554.84,"endTime":1558.29,"body":"starting point than any of the"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":1554.84,"endTime":1558.29,"body":"other dance dance styles that I"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":1558.29,"endTime":1558.86,"body":"looked at."},{"speaker":"Christine Malec","startTime":1559.73,"endTime":1561.65,"body":"How do you know"},{"speaker":"Christine Malec","startTime":1559.73,"endTime":1561.65,"body":"what's hip hop when you watch"},{"speaker":"Christine Malec","startTime":1561.65,"endTime":1561.74,"body":"it."},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":1561.99,"endTime":1566.55,"body":"So the gestures, the"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":1561.99,"endTime":1566.55,"body":"moves, the poses that are really"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":1566.58,"endTime":1575.85,"body":"aggressive, the spins and flips."},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":1566.58,"endTime":1575.85,"body":"So this is a very acrobatic"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":1575.88,"endTime":1580.05,"body":"dance style, so you'll get a lot"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":1575.88,"endTime":1580.05,"body":"of spins, spinning on a head or"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":1580.05,"endTime":1582.75,"body":"spinning on one shoulder, maybe"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":1580.05,"endTime":1582.75,"body":"windmill kicks while you're"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":1582.75,"endTime":1587.19,"body":"spinning on your back, maybe on"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":1582.75,"endTime":1587.19,"body":"one hand with a bent wrist, like"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":1587.19,"endTime":1592.89,"body":"flips with these kicks, the"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":1587.19,"endTime":1592.89,"body":"scissor kicks, big skills that"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":1592.89,"endTime":1595.71,"body":"are on display, there's"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":1592.89,"endTime":1595.71,"body":"something about, I mean, this"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":1595.71,"endTime":1597.51,"body":"might be a funny comparison, but"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":1595.71,"endTime":1597.51,"body":"it reminds me a little bit of"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":1597.51,"endTime":1599.67,"body":"like skateboarders or"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":1597.51,"endTime":1599.67,"body":"skateboarding."},{"speaker":"Christine Malec","startTime":1600.36,"endTime":1600.63,"body":"Oh!"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":1601.17,"endTime":1605.49,"body":"These dancers have"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":1601.17,"endTime":1605.49,"body":"to... there's an element of"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":1605.52,"endTime":1610.92,"body":"tricks in the dancing. 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And to watch it,"},{"speaker":"Christine Malec","startTime":2043.81,"endTime":2048.55,"body":"yeah, it's a very sighted thing."},{"speaker":"Christine Malec","startTime":2043.81,"endTime":2048.55,"body":"I don't know, maybe that's me."},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":2048.61,"endTime":2051.34,"body":"I'm not sure what this"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":2048.61,"endTime":2051.34,"body":"is. I'm not sure if this is what"},{"speaker":"JJ Hunt","startTime":2051.34,"endTime":2052.93,"body":"Molly was looking for! 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