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220: Tumbling Tech: X in Trouble, GameStop Retro, Two Truths and a Lie, We Unravel the Rise of Alternative Platforms like Reddit, Discord, and Trending BlueSky | Air Date: 9/1 - 9/7/24
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What happens when one of the world's biggest social media platforms tumbles in Brazil? Discover how X (formerly Twitter) finds itself in hot water as we unravel the rise of alternative platforms like Reddit, Discord, and the trending BlueSky. Join our fascinating discussion that includes a whimsical segment of "Two Truths and a Lie," interspersed with our beloved regular features such as Mike's Mesmerizing Moment, Technology Fail of the Week, Nathan's Negative, and a delightful whiskey tasting session. Trust us, this episode has a perfect blend of information and entertainment that you won’t want to miss.
Ever wondered about the stark differences in waste management between the U.S. and Japan? We break it down and move on to Elon Musk's legal skirmish with GARM, all while dissecting GameStop’s ambitious rebranding to GameStop Retro. Don't skip our fiery debate on the ethics of re-releasing iconic games like Doom and the conundrum surrounding user-created mods. To add more flavor to our tech talk, we'll discuss Chick-fil-A’s unexpected foray into streaming and celebrate Star Trek Day—packed with free streaming episodes from various Star Trek series.
Our closing segments focus on connecting with our vibrant community through social media and Patreon, sharing nostalgic moments from the launch of Windows 95 and the birth of eBay. Expect a hearty laugh as we talk about Welsh Rarebit Day, its history, and how to make this delectable dish. Tune in for an episode filled with riveting stories, fun games, and engaging discussions that make technology approachable for everyone.
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OdyWelcome to Tech.
Nathan MummTime with Nathan Mumm, the show that makes you go mmmm. Technology news of the week the show for the everyday person talking about technology, broadcasting across the nation with insightful segments on subjects weeks ahead of the mainstream media. We welcome our radio audience of 35 million listeners to an hour of insightful technology news. I'm Nathan Mumm, your host and technologist, with over 30 years of technology expertise. Our co-host, Mike Rodea, is in studio today. He's an award-winning author and a human behavior expert. Now we're live streaming during our show on four of the most popular platforms, including YouTube, Twitchtv, Facebook and LinkedIn. We are now on Blue Sky, so if you want to subscribe to Blue Sky, you'll find out more about that later in the show. We also encourage you to visit us online at techtimeradiocom and become a Patreon supporter at patreoncom forward slash Tech Time Radio. We are friends from different backgrounds, but we bring the best technology show possible weekly for our family, friends and fans to enjoy. We're glad to have Odi, our producer, at the control panel today. Welcome everyone. Let's start today's show.
Speaker 1Now on today's show. Now on today's show.
Nathan MummToday on Tech Time with Nathan Mumm, buckle up as we dive into the latest tech news and stories. And here's what we have coming up on the show today. We uncover a mystery involving a popular gadget, a high stakes lawsuit shaking up the tech world, a surprising legal decision from Brazil. The tech world, a surprising legal decision from Brazil, a new contender in the social media arena, a nostalgic twist from a major retailer and a special celebration for sci-fi fans. Plus, we have bringing back the Two Truths and a Lie game segment that you can play at home, as everybody in the studio will be playing also.
Nathan MummI think Odie is our winner from our last show. I went back and took a look at them, so we'll see if she can be the reigning champion today. Now, in addition, we have our standard features, including Mike's mesmerizing moment. Our technology failed the week in a possible Nathan negative and, of course, our pick of the day whiskey tastings. To see if our selected whiskey pick is zero, one or two thumbs up at the end of the show. But See if our selected whiskey pick gets zero, one or two thumbs up at the end of the show. But now it's time for the latest headlines in the world of technology.
Speaker 1Here are our top technology stories of the week.
Nathan MummAll right, troubles keep piling up as. X is in some problems. Is there a blue sky in the future? Let's go to Corrine Westland for more on this story.
Speaker 4X is in trouble and Brazil's Supreme Court says it will issue hefty fines to those who do not comply, after it has officially voted to ban X from the country. The five-member panel unanimously decided Monday to uphold the ban, which has been in effect since Saturday. Unanimously decided Monday to uphold the ban, which has been in effect since Saturday Meanwhile. Barely two years after dozens of high-profile investors helped Elon Musk buy Twitter, now X, the value of their stakes has tanked by as much as 72 percent. Per a Washington Post analysis. Twitter co-founder Jack Dorsey has lost an estimated $720 million, Oracle co-founder Larry Ellison about the same. All told, Musk and his co-investors are down more than $24 billion. Things look like they're unraveling. If you're still on X without an exit plan, time is running out. Fast, Back to you in the studio. Let's turn it off. What's that? Let's turn it off.
Nathan MummLet's turn it off. Well there, just turn it off. Just turn it off. Well, there's two software applications that are very happy with Xdemise that's happening right now, and they have been bolstered immensely with population overload. Now Reddit I don't see how.
Mike GordayReddit's on that list.
Nathan MummWell, reddit has grown significantly since Elon Musk has taken over Twitter. It's grown by three times their normal. What do you want to say? Added viewership, added posters, added users to the account. From Twitter to X, it has increased quite significantly.
Mike GordayNow I use Reddit all the time Do you use Reddit? No, it's archaic what it's like posting on a bulletin board service.
Nathan MummYou post a topic. Yeah, it's an old bullet. That what it's like. Posting on a bulletin board service.
Mike GordayYou post a topic and then yeah, it's an old bullet, that's where it's. It's an old bulletin board, Okay, well, I guess people still like bulletin boards. Well, I know, Reddit is the like the surviving dinosaur, you know like the seal of camp.
Nathan MummAll right, well, Discord is grown but it's considered kind of the alternate chat and audio, so it kind of has an audience that's grown. Well, yeah, Discord is.
Mike GordayDiscord.
Nathan MummIs Discord, but people have left X and have moved to Discord to communicate and Blue Sky. We're going to be talking about Blue Sky. Guess what? We have just joined it. This morning you can now go and look for Tech Time Radio on Blue Sky and guess what happened to the social network Blue Sky? It continues to benefit from X's shutdown in Brazil. It has added over 2 million new users over the past four days, so all of Brazil that used to use X now has moved on to Blue Sky.
Nathan MummThere were so many people that they didn't have enough resources to handle requests, and Blue Sky engineers scrambled to keep the server stable under the influx of new signups. As new users download the app, blue Sky jumped to become the number one app in Brazil over the weekend, ahead of Meta's ex-competitor Instagram threads. According to the app's intelligence by app figures, blue Sky's total downloads soared by over 10,584% this weekend compared to last, and its downloads in Brazil are up to a whopping 1 million percent. The growth seems to have a halo effect.
Nathan MummNo one has used this Blue Sky until this happened in Brazil, and everybody is now using it and they say that it is acting and posting and doing everything, that they expected to have an X and are happy to be using it. So we have signed up for this. Also, there's not a streaming option yet with our streaming service, but I looked into it this morning and they said they're going to have one in the next two to three weeks. So I think you can pretty much forget about X. You can now find us posting and having information on Blue Sky. Do you have an account yet on Blue Sky? No, you're going to need to create one.
Nathan MummI'm not. No, I will tell you, this is the platform that will make it.
Mike GordayI don't like these platforms.
Speaker 5It is exactly mirror of X.
Mike GordayIt has everything that's available, I don't care.
Nathan MummGo out. You need to get Microday at Blue, get micro day at blue sky. Why?
Mike Gordaywell, because I don't want somebody else to be micro day and I start tagging them and then all of a sudden, they get the information. Well right, I'm never gonna put it on my phone, so if you're gonna use blue sky to communicate with me, you're sol buddy, it sounds like you need to make your own micro day and then just text yourself, and I'll just text myself with it, and that sounds like a good idea now that then I can make sure that Microday's handle gets, and then I'll sell it to you at a later time for $100.
Mike GordayThere we go, making a profit. Yeah, okay, yeah, that's what you need to do is create.
OdyOdie, do you have a Blue Sky account? No, I'm just now finding out about it. Oh, you have to buy it later. See Mike, join into the peer pressure.
Nathan MummNo, Now Blue Sky received downloads in 22 countries where it had barely seen any traction before. So Brazil, pretty much said. This is our system, that we're going to have and everybody else is following. If you have the United States say we're not going to use X and we're now going to use blue sky, you're going to get millions of people to use that also.
Mike GordaySo if the U? S government says that that's not going to happen, well, that's what the Brazilian government said. No, the Brazilian government said, hey X, you're banned in our country. And then everybody in Brazil is like hey, what are we going to do about that? Oh, there's this other one called Blue Sky.
Nathan MummLet's jump on that. That's what they suggested. All right, story number two Odie. This is a good story. I like this story, you like this story. I do Very much so.
OdySo earlier this year, Brandi Deason, a Texas resident and climate justice coordinator for Air Alliance Houston, began dropping the small devices known as air tags into every bag of recycling that she dropped off for the city of Houston's new all-plastic accepted program. The air tags pinged at a nearby storage facility, nowhere close to where they were expected to be and certainly were not superheated, chemically treated or mechanically chopped up as the program talked about.
Nathan MummUh-oh, oh no.
OdyOh no. So somebody said that they're going to do a recycling program yes, houston houston they unveiled that the houston recycling collaboration in 2022, in response to low recycling rates of single use and hard to recycle plastics, offering a revolutionary new way of repurposing the materials. Exxon and other big oils have proposed such advanced or chemical recycling as a solution to accumulating plastic runoff, with the potential of turning to turn plastic into fuel.
Nathan MummAll right. So Exxon Valdez Well, I'll remember that little incident, right Right, the leaking out and spilling out everything. So Exxon says that they have, and these big oil players say they have these chemical compounds that can break down plastic.
OdyYeah.
Nathan MummAnd they said they were going to do it in Houston, and lo and behold, it doesn't sound like that's happening. Tell us more about this.
OdySo local environmental activists were immediately wary of the universal promises made by such a recycling effort and the potential environmental harm caused by what is essentially mass incineration of plastic material. Local environmental watchdog groups have been tracking plastics through the system ever since. City storage locations and plastic sorting plants are reportedly falling behind, failing safety inspections or fully non-operational. Cbs reported Right Waste Management denied CBS's request for comment. Oh go figure no way, all right. So people, what a surprise. So surprise.
Nathan MummSo this gal decided to buy air tags which are like 20 bucks a pop 25 bucks a pop, depending on how you buy them. She throws them in her garbage. Yeah, uh, for recycling yeah, in the recycling area and they still are existing on pings and they haven't gone anywhere and they're sitting there.
Mike GordayOkay, according to what I was reading here, that these are potential things that they can do with the plastic, okay, they're not doing them right now.
Nathan MummSo what are you going to do with all the-. This is back in 2022 though. Yeah, what are you going to do with all the plastic?
OdySo when is it going to be introduced?
Mike GordayI don't know. I'm not a chemist.
OdyWell, we know you're not a chemist.
Nathan MummDo you know what Washington State does with the recycling?
Mike GordayThey throw it out. No, they don't throw it out.
Nathan MummThey compress it, they don't throw it to the ocean, and then they send it someplace else by rail, and then it gets buried and what they have to do is when you actually put stuff into the recycling bin, it has to go through another whole process where somebody manually goes through and says this plastic is correct, this plastic is not correct. This plastic is correct Because we as consumers of recycling are not smart enough and we put waste in there and we put other stuff in there. So I know Washington State has a whole department that they go through and then they compact it and send it out of the state.
OdySo the article ends with in 2023, several organizations and news outlets, including Reuters, abc and CBS local affiliates, used AirTags the same as she did, to fact check the recycling claims of city programs and major industry players, including petrochemical giant Dow Inc. Inside Climate News, first published in Expose on Right Waste Management and Houston's Recycling Failures in 2023. So this is a year after the fact. So they did it in 22. Yeah, in 2023,.
Nathan MummThey said right, you guys are sucking. And now we had to have again somebody independently write information about it.
OdyYeah.
Mike GordayYeah, well, you know, I imagine that the amount of money that they make by storing it is not as our spend Storing it is not the amount of money they would be spending doing all this other stuff that they're supposed to be doing. All right, before we move on. Yes, money they would be spending doing all this other stuff that they're supposed to be doing.
OdyOkay, all right um before we move on yes we need to follow suit with japan yeah because japan is like insane with the way that they categorize their trash plastic and everything else and what do they do with that? They just like. For example, if you throw out a piece of cardboard and you want to throw out a piece of um laundry detergent, that's, those can't go in the same case. Okay, you have to sort it by paper, by food waste.
Mike GordayYou're not going to get the American public to do that.
OdyNo but like.
Nathan MummI don't know.
Mike GordayI think you're not going to get the American public to do that. Listen, listen, listen. It's not going to happen.
OdyIt's not an impossible feat, because look at Japan, we're in the same year.
Mike GordayJapan's culture is more group oriented. American culture is not. American culture is very individualistic. You can't change our culture to match that of Japan's.
OdyThat's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying it is possible.
Nathan MummThere's possible. She's trying to say that there's hope.
Mike GordayThere's always hope, yeah.
Nathan MummThere's always hope.
Mike GordayYeah, there's always hope, there's always hope. But hope is not a strategy.
Nathan MummOkay, Speaking of strategies of hope, let's go on to story number three.
Mike GordayHow is this hope? I don't know. What do you have? So Elon Musk X just sued a nonprofit advertising group out of existence. Oh, wow, okay, that's really good to know. The lawsuit from his ex-platform against the nonprofit advertising initiative GARM has led to its dissolution. So GARM is a small not-for-profit initiative that is a voluntary ad industry initiative run by the World Federation of Advertisers that aims to help brands avoid having their advertisements appear alongside illegal or harmful content. Okay, and they just got sued. They just got sued. Yeah, they came on out and they had some negative information about X.
Nathan MummI think Is that what the idea was.
Mike GordayWell, days after Elon Musk filed a lawsuit to claim the group illegally conspired to boycott advertising on his platform Okay, the group Global Alliance for Responsible Media, I guess they decided they weren't going to advertise on his platform. Okay, and so? Because, as we know, since Musk took over, it's been a little chaotic.
Nathan MummOkay, so I think they were saying that. So X is suing them, saying that they thought that the small group was monopolizing different items on their advertising space.
Mike GordayNo, they're saying that no small group should be able to decide what gets monetized. Okay, and this is in reaction to the group going out of business. The group going out of business CEO Linda Iaccarino of X put out the statement that this is an important acknowledgement and necessary step in the right direction. I'm hopeful that it means the ecosystem-wide reform is coming. I don't know what the right direction means in her case, but you know. However, the lawsuit could drive away even more advertisers from X. Nandini Jamai and Claire Atkin, founders of watchdog group Check my Ads Institute, wrote an op-ed Thursday. Everyone can see that advertising on X is a treacherous business relationship for advertisers. The lawsuit basically claims that Garm organized to collectively withhold billions of dollars in advertising from Twitter or X. Okay, hold billions of dollars in advertising from Twitter or X because the group was concerned that the platform had deviated from brand safety standards after Musk acquisition in late 2022, which is, you know, which is funny, right, because when he was talking about buying, twitter sued him.
Nathan MummYeah, because then he dropped out. Right, because he dropped out, yeah.
Mike GordayAnd then he decided to buy it. Yeah then, then he dropped out, right.
Nathan MummBecause he dropped out yeah. And then he decided to buy it.
Mike GordayYeah, then he came back and bought it. Now he's suing these people who don't want to advertise on his platform. What type of message does that send? I think the message is I have a lot of money and I'm going to do what I want.
Nathan MummMaybe they should sue Brazil, Maybe if they sue Brazil, then they could dissolve Brazil. I don't know. All right, all right. Do you also have story number four there?
Mike GordayYeah, which? Again, this is a little confusing to me. Okay, GameStop goes old school with the launch of a new retro GameStop store.
Nathan MummYes, have you heard about? This no, they're rebranding. All the GameStops are now called GameStop store. Yes, have you heard about this? No, they're rebranding. All the GameStops are now called GameStop Retro.
Mike GordayBoo.
OdyJust keep the name.
Mike GordayThis doesn't make any sense to me at all, because GameStop used to be where I went to go to get retro stuff.
Nathan MummOkay, they were. And then they bought ThinkGeek and they bought all these companies. No way, yeah, they bought ThinkGeek.
Mike GordayThat's why ThinkGeek went out of business. Oh, I missed those guys. Yeah, remember those catalogs and their funky websites. Yes, I missed ThinkGeek.
Nathan MummSo then they bought ThinkGeek and then after that then they only went to new stuff because they wanted to be new and hip and they got rid of the retro and that's where they screwed up is they went?
OdyThey didn't cater to the nostalgia. Well, later, to the nostalgia. Well, guess what?
Mike GordayNow they're coming back and saying that they're going to do this again. They have decided that they're going back for this nostalgia thing. Part of it is because retro gaming is a pretty lucrative environment Pretty hot, pretty hot item right now, and when GameStop stopped doing what they were doing, that was successful for them. All these little, small little ones got together.
Nathan MummMom and pop businesses got together.
Mike GordayNow they're going to come back and run those guys out or try and run those guys out of business.
Nathan MummThey are Great love competition, isn't that fantastic.
OdyThat's right.
Nathan MummOkay, keep on going. There's a couple other things.
Mike GordaySupposedly, fans of classic gaming will be able to purchase classic games and a variety of older game consoles, including Classic Gaming. Will be able to purchase classic games and a variety of older game consoles, including NES, super NES, game Boy Advance, game Boy N64, nintendo DS, wii, wii U, nintendo GameCube, xbox, xbox 360, ps1, 2, 3, 4, 5, vita, sega Genesis and Sega Saturn and the Dreamcast.
Mike GordaySo they're focusing on all the old consoles, which they used to do when they were really successful. This is why I laugh at these kind of things, because this is this is how they started. This is where this is how they started they started.
Nathan MummGamestop was the idea where you could buy and trade video games.
Mike GordayYes, I have their ads, that's right.
Nathan MummI have their ads. They were buying liquidation from Blockbuster. This is where I went. They were in every mall Yep.
Mike GordayAnd you would go in the mall and go and look and see it all. And they had all the new stuff that was coming out too Yep, and they had all this old stuff in there that you were like, oh crap. You know this is the third time I'm replacing my Wii, because either my kids steal it or my apartment burns down or whatever.
Mike GordayI can't do that, yeah, right, so then he went to the mom and pop store and then they had this problem in. I don't know if it was during the pandemic or prior to the pandemic. I can't remember where they did some stupid stuff in there their stock dived Fell crazy bad yeah during the pandemic. Yep, all right Well hold on, I don't know. So now they're coming on back.
Nathan MummThis is news, all right, but I don't know. So now they're coming on back news retro this. Well, this is. They did a big press release. The classics are back. That's what they're they're posting all over.
Mike GordayThe classics didn't go anywhere, because I go down to my mom and pop shop and buy my fourth week yeah.
Nathan MummWell now, all of a sudden, they're going to be competing against those mom and pop shops they're going to be. They're going to be basically trying to put them out of business all these mom, mom and pop stores have popped up, been very successful, can sustain an ecosystem in there. And they decided hey, you know what, since we suck at all of our business practices now, let's go back to what originally started and see if we can compete.
OdyWell, I was going to say, the reason why they're surging back up again is because malls are becoming popular again.
Nathan MummThey are.
OdyPeople are no longer shopping online because they're getting frustrated.
Nathan MummSo they're going to malls. And the whole idea of having housing right next to malls is the big kind of hip deal. You kind of have your lower stores with all your restaurants in it and your daycares and your childcare and your pet care. And then all of a sudden, you can go two blocks over and you have a mall to shop and, yep, there they are picking up what died in the 90s back in the 2020s.
OdyThe 20s.
Nathan MummYeah, we're in the roaring 20s. I had somebody tell me hey, this is the roaring 20s.
OdyMy generation sees it as the roaring 20s. Well, of course you would, because you haven't been around long enough to know the roaring 20s. This is not the roaring 20s. My generation sees it as the roaring 20s.
Mike GordayThis is the roaring 20s? Well, of course you would, because you haven't been around long enough to know what a roaring 20 is. I've been around long enough to know what it was. I didn't experience it myself, but the economic boom prior to the depression was awesome, Alright.
Nathan Mummwell, that ends our top technology stories of the week. When we return, we have our game show segment Two Truths and a Lie. You're listening to Tech Time with Nathan Mumm. We'll be back after this commercial break.
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Nathan MummWelcome back to Tech Time with Nathan Mumm. Our weekly show covers the top technology subjects without any political agenda. We verify the facts and we do it with a sense of humor, in less than 60 minutes and, of course, with a little whiskey on the side. Today, mark Gregoire, a whiskey connoisseur, is back in the studio. Woo, this is good. I'll just tell you, this has got a nice burn. It is still burning, but it didn't have that bite. What are we tasting today, mark? Today is New Luke Toasted Rye single barrel select Clark.
Marc GregoireThank you for that. Today is Nulu Toasted Rye single barrel select. Okay, now from Nulu's website they say finishing rye whiskey and toasted oak provides a mellowing effect for the typically aggressive spirit. Now, by absorbing the medium wood sugars from the toasted barrel, the rye is balanced by the sweetness and layered with contrasting complexity. Sweet and flavorful, yet bold and powerful. This hand-picked toasted expression from Nulu offers notes of roasted almond, leather and heavy spice. Toasted to perfection. Now, this is from Prohibition Craft Spirits Distilling Company. The juice inside the bottle is actually from MGP, as we know from Indiana. It is a rye, five years, 121 proof. The mash bill is undisclosed and this goes for about $99 MSRP.
Nathan MummWow, 121 proof. I am still tasting the proof. Are you still tasting the proof?
Mike GordayNo.
Nathan MummYou don't have a burn still. No, okay, I still have a little bit of that.
Mike GordayI have a very pleasant sweet appley finish. That's what I have, okay.
Nathan MummAll right, okay, how much did you say? This was $99. $99. Wow, and now this comes with. I mean look at this. This is like a wax top. I like that it's got a cork top on it.
Mike GordayI mean, this is Pretty colors on the label. Yeah, it meets every one of your standards, except for the low cost.
Nathan MummWell, that may be true, but this is really good it talks about prohibition, which was part of the Roaring Twenties, by the way. Was it? Yeah, that's right.
Truth or Lie
Marc GregoireOkay, well, we're going to talk about that. Yeah, so basically this is sourced juice from MG, this company, and then release the barrels, all right, Okay, well, thank you so much.
Nathan MummSure, with our first whisking tasting complete, let's move on to our future of seeing who is the smartest on our segment?
OdyThat's not On our segment.
Nathan MummWe are playing today Two Truths and a Lie.
Speaker 1And now we have Two Truths and a Lie.
Nathan MummAll right, odie, mark and Mike, you guys are all up for this. I'm going to give you three titles and I'm going to read to you the three stories and you're going to tell us which one of these is a truth, which one of these is a lie. You cannot look on your computers no source in anything. You have to listen to the title, the subject, and tell me which one was made up and which two are true. Here we go. Story number one City of Grand Rapids announced grant opportunity for Super Mario Brother enthusiasts. Grand Rapids, michigan. The city of Grand Rapids, known for its vibrant art scene and commitment to innovation, is dedicated to fostering creativity and supporting local talent. Through various initiatives and programs, grand Rapids aims to provide opportunity for growth and development. It's excited to announce a unique grant opportunity for individuals who have played Super Mario Brothers. Don't be looking on your phone now.
Mike GordayOkay, all right. Super Mario Brothers, he just doesn't care.
Nathan MummThis grant aims to support creative projects and initiatives inspired by the iconic video game series. The city of Grand Rapids will award grants up to $10,000 to eligible applicants. The funding is intended to support projects and demonstrated creativity, innovation and passion for the Super Mario Brothers franchise. Projects can include, but are not limited to, game development, art installations, educational programs and community events. Applications will be reviewed by a panel of experts. Grants will be awarded. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah blah. There you go. The City of Grand Rapids announced grant opportunity for Super Mario Bros. That's story number one.
OdyCan I ask?
Nathan Mummquestions. No, that was story number one. What question do you have?
OdyNo. What is the grant for?
Nathan MummThe grant is eligible.
OdyJust for an art piece.
Nathan MummIt can be used for For art piece game development.
OdyLike for the city.
Nathan MummGame development, art installation.
OdyOh, okay.
Nathan MummEducational programs and community events.
OdyOkay, okay, continue.
Nathan MummThat's grant number one. Story number two Our voices were stolen, then cloned and then sold. In June of 2023, paul and and his partner, linda Sage, were driving near their home in New York City listening to a podcast about the ongoing strikes in Hollywood and how artificial intelligence could affect the industry. The episode was of interest because the couples voice over performers like themselves are creative. Hearing the human sounding voice generations could soon be used to replace them. Through their interest, that night, they spent hours online searching for clues until they came across a site that sounded just like them that they were listening to on the podcast. They went and visited a site to speech platform called Lovo. Once there, sage said that she found a copy of her voice as well as his. I was stunned. She said I couldn't believe it. A tech company stole our voices, made AI clones of them and sold them to possible hundreds of thousands of times. They have now filed a lawsuit against Lovo, but their voices remain online for all to purchase. Okay. Story number two you get that. Yeah, I got it.
Nathan MummStory number three the US Navy is going all in on Starlink. The Navy is testing out the Elon Musk-owned satellite constellation to provide high-speed internet access to sailors at sea. The Navy has not yet disclosed how many surface warships have received Starlink terminals. Defense officials told Defense Scoop in April that the DOD was at the time evaluating the system aboard two deployed vessels. So here's our main titles. The US Navy is going all in on Starlink. Our voices were stolen, then cloned and sold, and the city of Grand Rapids announced Super Mario Brothers grants. All right, I'm going to go to Mike on my left here. Which one of these stories is false?
Mike GordayI'm going to say the false story is the clone voice story, clone voice story.
Nathan MummOkay, Two people were listening and heard their own AI voice clones. That's Mike's Odie. What do you go for?
OdyI'm going to go for the Starlink story.
Nathan MummOkay, you guys are going to choose the same one, if you want to choose the same one. No, I don't want to choose You're going to do. The Starlink is fake. Yeah, the US Navy is not going all on Starlink. Yes, okay, mr Gregoire.
Marc GregoireThat's a tough one. I was hoping the Starlink would be the false one, because I don't want our government pairing up with what do you mean?
Odyyou were hoping.
Marc GregoireBut the second story that Mike chose is so basic that I'm going to go. That's the false one.
Nathan MummYou're going to go. That's the false one. Okay, well, here's what we got Our voices were stolen, then cloned and sold is absolutely true. It actually happened to a company that are being sued right now by Paul and Linda Sage. This had their AI voices clones, their voice actors Somebody stole their voice acting. They are right now suing the platform Lovo, which is actually based out of California.
OdyPut on them.
Nathan MummSo that was incorrect. So now we go down to City of Grand Rapids announced opportunity for Super Mario Brother enthusiasts or the US Navy is going all in on Starlink. Well, the US Navy is going all in on Starlink and they are testing out the Elon Musk system. Navy is going all in on Starlink and they are testing out the Elon Musk system. It's been announced not only in the defense scoop but other articles, that they are looking to have Starlink, not for the United States security aspect of the network, but they're using it for people on the boat that want to have high speed streaming access so they can play games and as general people that are living on a boat have. And the lie was the city of Grand Rapids opportunity to give a grant for Super Mario Brother enthusiasts. Nathan has not won over six times, but I won this time by having that story first and that was the lie. What's that?
OdyWell, I'm still reigning supreme, that's all that matters.
Nathan MummYou're still reigning supreme.
Mike GordayTell me, nathan, what is the city of Grand Rapids doing?
Nathan Mummactually Nothing. This is all ChatGPT generated. I put in the quotes.
Mike GordaySo, nathan didn't win, chatgpt won. Well, yeah, chatgpt.
Nathan MummI put in the search. This is what I put in for the search algorithm to create this fake grant details, which is pretty good and sounds absolutely legit.
Mike GordayI don't know how you can actually read that and not be concerned about that.
Nathan MummSo here's what I searched. All I put in the chat GPT Slow down, Mike.
OdyWe're about to get into your mesmerizing moment.
Nathan MummCreate grant for a city in Michigan that is doing this for Super Mario Brothers, and it came up with all the rest of the information.
Mike GordayYeah, and you don't find that concerning as real as that sounds. The second one sounded so bogus, really. Yeah, that actually comes from GeekWire.
Nathan MummThe story, our voices were stolen and then cloned is the main subject of it, the way he was talking, about it, it sounded made up Because you know we talk about this all the
Odytime yeah.
Mike GordayWe talk about this all the time and it's plausible. But, yet these people went online and spent hours crawling through things trying to find out if their voices were copied. I find that to be a little weird, okay.
Nathan MummWell, I guess, if you're a voice actor and that's how you make your living, probably a little bit of a big deal. All right, well, but now.
Mike GordayI'm sure that those types of companies, they have all of our voices.
Nathan MummYeah, I'm sure of it, let's sue.
Mike GordayLet's sue them.
Nathan MummAll right. Sue them out of existence, like Elon does Now that you're all ready to go with a little piss and vinegar. Let's move on to your mesmerizing moment. Welcome to Mike's mesmerizing moment. What does Mike have to say today? All right, Let me go here back on your story. Which one? Well, you had both. Should corporate businesses be able to sue against free speech nonprofits, even if the stuff they're saying may be slanted?
Mike Gordaythis is a really kind of complex thing because we're talking about something that is not necessarily free speech versus something that's about money. Okay, you can sue anybody for anything you could. I, I could sue you for wearing that that jacket combo which is because it because it's offensive to my eyes.
Mike GordayI could bring that if I wanted. I wanted to do that, I can do that. And then the court system would be like no, you guys are wasting time, go away. So do I believe they have the right to sue? Sure, do I believe they're doing it for any free speech purposes? No, they're doing it because they're not getting their money, and they're doing it because they're not getting their money and they're doing it because they can. I don't think it has anything to do with free speech. I don't necessarily agree with people who are trying to define what free speech is based on some of the information that I got here. But I understand if I'm selling items and I want to advertise my items and I don't want my advertisements to be on advertisements that say advertise porn, I think that's my right as an advertiser. That doesn't necessarily mean I'm trying to dictate what advertisers advertise. It just means I don't want to be on X if they're going to have these advertisements that I don't think are very helpful in promoting this stuff.
Nathan MummWell, nick Espinosa our guest last week is no longer on X right, so we still have a very limited little bit of information that we're putting out there and we're going to go to. Blue Sky. That is our decision as a company, as Tech Time Radio is going to be using Blue Sky. That's fine.
Mike GordayWe all make our choices based on what our values are, based on what we're trying to do. What we think we're going to gain are based on what we're trying to do what we think we're going to gain. I don't think ex-suing a company out of existence is a very nice thing to do, but corporate America is not nice. I don't know why we continue to think that they're honest and nice and equitable and all these other things, because they're not. They exist to make money for their shareholders and their company. They don't exist to be nice to you. Okay, all right.
Social Media Promotion and Whiskey Review
Nathan MummWell, Mike, thank you for that mesmerizing moment. Up next we have this Week in Technology, so now would be a great time to enjoy a little whiskey on the side, as we're going to be doing so. During the break, You're listening to Tech Time Radio with Nathan Mumm. See you in a few minutes. Hey, Mike. Yeah, what's up? Hey, so you know what. We need people to start liking our social media page.
Mike GordayIf you like our show, if you really like us we could use your support on Patreoncom, or is it Patreon? I think it's Patreon. Okay, patreon, if you really like us, you can like us in Patreoncom and you say I'm the English guy. I butcher the English language. You know, you butcher the English language all the time.
Nathan MummIt's patreoncom.
Mike GordayPatreoncom. If you really like our show, you can subscribe to patreoncom and help us out and you can visit us on that Facebook platform.
Nathan MummYou know, the one that Zuckerberg owns, the one that we always bag on. Yeah, we're on Facebook too. Yeah, like us on Facebook. Do you know what our Facebook page is? Tech Time Radio At.
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Nathan MummTime Radio. You know what? There's a trend here.
Mike GordayIt seems to be that there's a trend and that's Tech Time Radio, or you can even Instagram with us.
Nathan MummAnd that's at Tech Time Radio. That's at Tech Time Radio. Or you can find us on TikTok, and it's Tech Time Radio. It's at Tech Time Radio.
Mike GordayLike and subscribe to our social media Like us today, we need you to like us. Like us and subscribe.
Nathan MummThat's it. That's it. It's that simple.
Speaker 1And now let's look back at this week in technology.
Nathan MummAll right, we're going all the way back in the Wayback Machine to September 3rd 1995. Now this is the time that Windows 95 came on out. This is a big time in my life that I'm very familiar with and it seems like it's so far back. That just tells you I'm so far old. Essentially, we have Auction Web was created. Now the online site AuctionWeb was then renamed eBay, but it was first launched as the AuctionWeb by Pierre Omadar. The first item sold was a broken laser pointer, wasn't actually intended to sell, but rather test the new site itself and see if it would work. Now, it was all a hobby. And then, surprisingly guess what happened. This item sold for $14.83. Omadar contacted the buyer to make sure he knew the laser pointer was broken, in which he got a reply back saying I'm a collector of broken laser pointers. Now I don't know who really collects broken laser pointers but there must have been a person at that time from that first $14.83.
Nathan MummIt is now. Ebay is the global auction and trading company in the world. Ebay is one of the first companies to create a market for internet website to match buyers and sellers of goods and services. Ebay is headquartered in San Jose, california. Still, and is still the number one auction site in San Jose, california, still, and it's still the number one auction site in the world. There you go. Have you ever bought anything off of eBay? Oh yeah, it's a pretty rudimentary interface still today, but it does what it needs to do. You see a picture of something, you get a description of something and you can either choose to bid on it and buy it, or now they have, of course, the Buy it Now price, so you can just post stuff up there. I buy stuff all the time off there Collectible games but I guess now I can just go down to GameStop Retro and get my games there soon, Instead of to your buddy's store.
Mike GordayNo, I go there to buy it too, the stupid geeks.
Nathan Mummyeah, I go there too, all right. Well, that was this Week in Technology. If you ever wanted to watch some Tech Time history, with over 200 weekly broadcasts spanning five-plus years of video, podcasts, blog information, you can visit us at techtimeradiocom to watch our older shows. We're going to take a commercial break. When we return, though, we have Mark's mumble whiskey review.
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Speaker 1The segment we've been waiting all week for Mark's Whiskey Mumble.
Nathan MummYour Whiskey Mumble.
Marc GregoireAll right.
Nathan MummAll right. What do we have for?
Marc Gregoirethird already All right Time flies. Mark, it does, but happily it flies to today, which is National Fly Day. No National Welsh Rarebit Day.
OdyAnother Welsh rarebit.
Mike GordayMa'am, you're looking at a Welsh rarebit thing. I just can't help myself, Is that? So it's just awful, ain't it Well?
Marc Gregoiregolly Surprise surprise, surprise.
Nathan MummI have no idea. I'm completely lost.
Mike GordayThat's G. Surprise, surprise, surprise. I have no idea, I'm completely lost. That's Gomer Pyle buddy. Oh my God.
Nathan MummBut I don't know what today is, though.
Marc GregoireOh, you don't know. Well, let me tell you about it, nathan and educate you. Okay, the humble Welsh dish rarebit deriving from rabbit, so some people also call it National Welsh Rabbit Day. Okay, is what we're sure of from this century's old dish. So it's a dish and the term rare bread is taken from the Welsh language which is just thickly sliced bread with loads of decadent cheese sauce on top of it and toasted. Just thinking about the melted cheese sounds mouthwatering. Good, okay, mm.
Nathan MummOkay, mm, okay, hang on. So now it's a rabbit, are you? No, it's not a rabbit. No, it's not a rabbit. It's not a rabbit. It's not a rabbit.
Marc GregoireRabbit is an old English term that means like something with cheese on it.
Speaker 1Oh okay.
Marc GregoireSo, it's a piece of toast that has cheese on it and that's like broiled.
OdyOh, okay, yeah, imagine a grilled cheese, but without the top.
Marc GregoireThere you go, it's cheese toast, cheese toast.
Nathan MummCheese toast, cheese toast. Have you ever had ketchup toast?
OdyGet out of here. Anyway, I don't know.
Mike GordayWe don't need to talk about your weird stuff. It's a delicious.
Marc GregoireOkay, it's a delicious, I did not know that. Thanks, we have Nulu Toasted Rye.
Nathan MummOh, okay.
Marc GregoireNow, in June 2015, a pair of amateur distillers sat down with Keith Hazelbaker he's a certified financial planner to talk about a concept for a new craft distilled spirits company. One thing was clear to Keith these guys were in over their heads. So Keith offered to work closely alongside the amateur distillers and became clear that he had found his passion. So by the time 2016 rolled around, keith purchased the company from them and it became Prohibition Craft Spirits Distilling Company. Keith soon brought in his son, carlson, on board and they began to make this a family endeavor. Okay, now about this whiskey specifically. I just got back from California from attending the Whiskey YouTube channel Curiosity Publix convention. How was that? That was phenomenal.
Nathan MummYou can't remember, did you have a great time?
Marc GregoireI had an awesome time.
Nathan MummYou can't remember how many people are at this high end About 30. Only 30. Select whiskey yeah, and they had brought.
Marc GregoireThey brought about over a hundred bottles and it was all you can drink for three hours. Whoa and it was all unique or high-end stuff.
Nathan MummDid you walk back to your hotel room? No, or did you just start?
Marc GregoireI took a little break after and got some pizza for a few hours and then made my way back to my parents' house.
Mike GordayIt took them a few hours to eat the pizza I get you, but I had very small sips.
Marc GregoireThey were pouring big old shots and I said I just want to taste because I wanted to get through about 15 of them.
Nathan MummOkay, cool. Did you bring a bottle down too? I don't think that was quite what everybody else was doing here.
Mike GordayMark, Did you bring a?
Marc Gregoirebottle.
Nathan MummNo no.
Marc GregoireThey brought all the bottles. They were hosting the convention. How much was this event? It was free.
Nathan MummWhat, what? You went to some high-end whiskey thing for free.
Marc GregoireThey had like five or six different cheeses, appetizers, sliders. They gave away these bottles off raffles.
Nathan MummWow, I got a shirt, a glass Black Market Whiskey Company Are you guys going to do the same thing up here in your little whiskey club.
Marc GregoireWell, this was a YouTube channel.
Nathan MummThis would be like if.
Marc GregoireTech Time hosted something.
Nathan MummOh, okay, do we need to host?
Marc Gregoirethat we need to host something cool like this Just for your whiskey snooty people. You in charge, though.
Nathan MummThat's right, Odie.
Marc GregoireSo I picked up this whiskey while in California from the liquor store Cosmo Liquor in Lake Forest, california. Now, I'm generally not a toasted whiskey fan. However, I find this whiskey delightful. The play on the rice spice is rounded nicely with the sweetness from the toasting also adding a bit of nuttiness. The only thing that I struggle with is the price for what it is.
Nathan MummOkay, okay there we go. This is good stuff. I like it. Well, guess what? What? Dathan, just like whiskey and technology are such a great pair, and we're going to be talking about today retro video games and mods. Alright let's move on to our technology fail. Congratulations, you're a failure.
Speaker 4Oh.
Marc GregoireI failed. Did I yes, did I yes, did I.
Nathan MummYes, alright, let's talk about old games. You remember old games you used to have, where they have modifications to it. So we're going to be speaking about the new release that Bethesda released, called Doom. They released it on all the brand new platforms Doom 1 and Doom 2 as a part of a combo pack. You remember playing those as the old school games and they'd have modifications, you could go down to GameStop.
Nathan MummOkay, buy them, right, you could go down to GameStop. Okay, buy them, right, you'd go down to GameStop, buy it. Or you could buy. There was this freeware company that was in the malls back in the day where you could go in and you could buy freeware games and they'd have a whole bunch of floppy disks and you'd go and install it. But there's all these modifications. You could have Doom and you could have it Back to the Future Eyes. Where I'm going through is Marty McFly a bunch of different items.
Nathan MummWell, bethesda decided to release a game for Doom 1 and Doom 2 with all mods available. That was the biggest selling point is that any of the mods that have been created previously, or any new mods, when you purchase this game, you're going to be able to have them. Well, guess what Bethesda has yanked? Doom mod about killing Margaret Thatcher the vampire from the storefront. So in the Doom mod, it was an older version of Margaret Thatcher. She becomes a vampire and she's in hell with Doom, and you go down and you need to kill her. What's interesting, though, is mods have been a part of the Doom experience since its release in 1993. Enthusiasts and gamers mixed and remixed Doom 2 to create their own maps, upload their own art assets, redesign the game and, in August, bethesda released an enhanced edition of Doom 1 and Doom 2 that included access to all the user-created database full of mods. Well, this was 1993 and our society is a little bit more politically correct now than in 1993.
Nathan MummNow, all of a sudden, interesting is that we had a user. That Thatcher's tech base was the mod. A comedic overhaul of Doom, include five new levels, a soundtrack from Paradise Killers composer Barry Topping, the deceased prime minister, margaret. Margaret Thatcher was a vampire as the Baron of Hell, but now, according to the Mods creator, jim Pervious, bethesda has pulled Thatcher's tech base from its listing because of politics. Bad news he posted everyone In a post on X. It had screenshots from Bethesda with a support ticker saying the creation Thatcher's tech base has been reported from real world politics and has been removed as a result. This account is receiving an official educational notice. Do not upload mods that feature real world religious, political content. Now still, the mod is full of other creations. Some in this world are Wait a minute, wait a minute.
Mike GordayYep, it wasn't pulled because it was in bad taste. It was pulled because it represented a real political person.
Nathan MummYes, but this mod has been around since 1993. Since 1993. 1993, if I had a PC, I could upload it and play it. As many times as I want.
Mike GordayI just want to be clear that Bethesda didn't pull this because it was Margaret Thatcher as a vampire Specifically, it was because Margaret Thatcher was actually a real political person and they don't want real political or religious figures. Okay, well, let's talk about this.
Nathan MummSo I guess they must be really concerned about copyrights then right and probably third party and trademark properties.
Mike GordayI don't think it has anything to do with copyrights.
The Controversy of Game Re-Releases
Nathan MummRight. So they don't want anything with copyright. But the second model right now mod listed on the is the Ultimate Simpsons Doom, a total conversion mod that replaces much of the game art with the sound effects and that of animated sitcom Hundreds of remixes and mashups like this. Also there's mods for Mario and Sonic the Hedgehog that have all the copyrighted music and IP in the games themselves that they allow to be played.
Mike GordayYeah, but it's not a real person.
Nathan MummSo I make up a vampire for Margaret Thatcher. My game gets pulled If I go and I have illegal third party IP of the Simpsons or Mario Brothers or Sonic the Hedgehog. Bethesda allows that to stay.
Mike GordaySure.
OdyOkay.
Nathan MummBethesda says it will support the mods for a long list of libraries, but you should realize that the releases will be flagged and they will be pulled down if they're not in taste for today's society. Okay.
Mike GordaySo should we even do?
Nathan Mummre-releases anyway. So that's the bigger point of view that I kind of want to go off a little bit about is this is a game that was created back in 1993, right, should we have companies that are going out there re-releasing these games to then sell that again at increase for profit?
Mike GordayWhy are?
Nathan Mummyou asking that question? Well, I'm just saying so should we be doing? I don't even think that I should.
Mike GordayI don't think we should do any re-release. How many movies come out that is a remake of another movie?
Nathan Mummthat was a remake of another movie. Well, that's still an original piece, that's put together even though it may have the story that's a remake.
Mike GordayThere's nothing original in our society today.
OdyYeah, look at the Planet of the.
Nathan MummApes franchise. Okay, well, those are still original movies.
Mike GordayThey have people do that I find your platform to be a little wobbly there, buddy.
Nathan MummWell, no, you shouldn't re-release a game that was created in 1993 and then all of a sudden become the dictator of when you're going to put mods up or not mods. If you're going to do that and you sell it as mods. Let them all be up there.
Mike GordayThey're pulling the mods for a different reason.
OdyHe had a PC.
Mike GordayIt's a one mod that they pulled because it reflected an actual, real political figure. Well, the mod has been there since 19 and they probably, you know, given today's environment, they were probably thinking it's concerning that you would have a bunch of people virtually assassinating a real political figure. You know what? Okay.
Nathan MummWe have difference of opinion.
Mike Gordayhere we're going to talk about this over some toast and cheese. Is this your free speech platform that you're trying to get the free mod? That's right. Free the mods, free the mods. I am kind of.
Nathan MummIf you have a mod out there, you shouldn't go in and change it. All right, free the mods.
Mike GordayI am kind of, if you have a mod out there, you shouldn't go in and change it. Alright, everybody does stuff. I disagree, you disagree, everybody does stuff.
OdyThere's a, like you know, free speech for everybody, but there's a limit.
Nathan MummBut if I created a 1993, I shouldn't be penalized now if you come out with a re-release.
OdyNo, but not that version.
Nathan MummWell, that version already exists.
Mike GordayDude, you know, you know. All right, let's move on, you know that, no matter what Bethesda does, that mod is going to be out there for anybody who wants it. That's probably right, it's not like this is any big.
Nathan MummI found it very hypocritical that it was there before they didn't remove it. Now, all of a sudden they're re-release. They're making more money than they removed it. All right, let's move to the Nathan Nuggets.
Speaker 1They got more ranting to do this is your Nugget of the Week, all right?
Nathan MummFirst thing I'm going to rant about, chick-fil-a is launching a streaming service. Chick-fil-a the restaurant. Let them.
OdyLet them Chick-fil-A.
Mike GordayWhat are they going to put on their streaming service?
Nathan MummWell, fast food chains will work with Hollywood production companies and studios to create family-friendly content.
Marc GregoireOkay, Nathan is very excited about this. They're going to be streaming his chicken coop right.
Nathan MummOh, that's right. The Chicken House is also going to talk to licensed and acquired content. According to his sources pitched the project. Just think of game shows like the NBC, the Wall and Sugar's 23 moving to the ChickFlix Netflix alternative you ever go into a Chuck E Cheese. Yes.
OdyThey're not playing any Disney stuff in there. Everything is Chuck E Cheese branded.
Nathan MummThat is right. That is right. That's because it's a brand.
OdyExactly Now. Chick-fil-a is on the forefront of it.
Mike GordayIt's going to be cows versus chickens.
Nathan MummAnd last but not least, do you know what September 8th is? It's not Chick-fil-A Day, no, it's Star Trek Day. Star Trek, star Trek, star Trek, star Trek Day, which is almost the perfect thing for any Trekkie to attend. Paramount will be making the premiere episodes of each and every Trek series, barring one, available to stream for free from September 7th through the 13th.
Marc GregoireWhat's the?
Nathan Mummone they're barring. They're barring Lost and Found 1 and 2 from the premiere episode of the Prodigy, which they're saying is not really a Star Trek IP anymore.
OdyWow, what a great rant.
Nathan MummNathan, all right, there you go, mark what?
Odydo you want to tell us about our pick of the day?
Marc GregoireThank you. We are drinking the new Lutosa Dry Single Barrel Select. It is a rye. Arrived five years, 121 proof, $99. Thumbs up or thumbs down?
Mike GordayI'm going to give it a thumbs down.
Nathan MummYou're going to give it a thumbs down.
Mike GordayI am yeah.
OdyWhy Michael?
Mike GordayIt's all right, but it had two different taste profiles when I was tasting it and they didn't really match up. Thumbs up, Thumbs up for me.
Nathan MummThumbs up. It's good. Anything with alcohol is great. Thumbs up for me.
OdyThumbs up, it's good. Anything with alcohol is great. Well, we want to thank everybody that joins our show today.
Nathan MummRemember, we're the show where bites collide, circus sing and the geeks reign supreme. I'm your host, nate the Mum. See you next week.
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