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TechTime with Nathan Mumm
EP 247: TechTime with Nathan Mumm: Gaming Economics with Nintendo Switch 2's Detail, 1.5 Billion Crypto Heists, and Social Media Evolution with Guest Gwen Way Gadget "The Ring Mouse" | Air Date: 4/8 - 4/14/2025
The battle for TikTok's future heats up as Trump grants a second 75-day extension while major players like Microsoft, Blackstone, and Amazon circle the bidding arena. With 170 million US users hanging in the balance, we unpack the complex negotiations complicated by recent tariffs and international approvals.
Nintendo Switch 2's announcement brings sticker shock with its $449.99 price tag—matching PlayStation and Xbox pricing—while revealing a troubling trend in the gaming economy. We dive deep into what this means for consumers and examine how the $80 game price point and mandatory $20 upgrade fees to play older games signals a fundamental shift from ownership to rental in our digital lives.
The cryptocurrency world faces its most significant heist ever as North Korean hackers steal $1.5 billion from exchange ByBit. Our analysis reveals how this brazen theft was executed, why affected investors won't see their funds replaced, and what this means for cryptocurrency security moving forward.
Our Gadgets and Gear segment introduces the innovative Ring Mouse, a wearable Bluetooth device that transforms how we interact with computers. Beyond its practical applications for presentations, we explore its surprising potential for office pranks and subtle device control.
We celebrate Microsoft's 50th anniversary with a fast-paced quiz on the tech giant's defining moments and conclude with our signature whiskey tasting featuring Joseph A Magnus Murray Hill Club Special Release. Whether you're concerned about digital ownership rights, fascinated by emerging tech, or simply curious about the economics reshaping our digital landscape, this episode delivers insights that will make you go "hmmm."
Broadcasting across the nation, from the East Coast to the West, keeping you up to date on technology while enjoying a little whiskey on the side, with leading-edge topics, along with special guests to navigate technology in a segmented, stylized radio program. The information that will make you go, mmmmm. Pull up a seat, raise a glass with our hosts as we spend the next hour talking about technology for the common person. Welcome to Tech Time Radio with Nathan Mumm.
Speaker 2:Welcome to Tech Time with Nathan Mumm the show that makes you go mmmm. Technology news of the week the show for the everyday person talking about technology, broadcasting across the nation with insightful segments on subjects weeks ahead of the mainstream media. We welcome our radio audience of 35 million listeners to an hour of insightful technology news. I'm Nathan Mumm, your host and technologist, with over 30 years of technology expertise. Our co-host, Microday, is an award-winning author and our human behavior expert. Now we're live streaming during our show on four of the most popular platforms, including YouTube, Twitch TV, Facebook and LinkedIn, and we're encouraged to see the blue skies in the process of having a streaming service and as soon as that goes live, we will be on that also. Now we encourage you to visit us online at techtimeradiocom and become a Patreon supporter at patreoncom. Forward slash techtimeradio. Forward slash TechTimeRadio. We are friends from different backgrounds, but we bring the best technology show possible weekly for our family, friends and fans to enjoy. We're glad to have ODR producer at the control panel today. Welcome everyone. Let's start today's show.
Speaker 1:Now on today's show.
Speaker 2:All right Today on TechTimeRadio. What's keeping TikTok running and on top, despite all of its controversies? Tune in to uncover the latest twists and turns. Imagine controlling your devices with just a flick of a finger Curious. We'll reveal more with Gwen Wei on gadgets and gear. And then $1.5 billion stolen in the largest crypto heist ever. Who did it and how? Tuned for to find out more. And social security it services are in turmoil, so we're going to be talking about that. What dramatic measures are being taken? And then the next generation of gaming is here. What's the buzz about nintendo switch 2 and is it worth the hype? We'll give you a sneak peek. In addition, we have our standard features, including Mike's mesmerizing moment, our technology fail of the week, a possible Nathan Nugget and, of course, our pick of the day whiskey tastings, to see if our selected whiskey pick gets zero, one or two thumbs up at the end of the show. Now are you okay there, mike? I was worried about you. I saw you coughing, are you okay?
Speaker 2:no, no, heimlich there anything like needs to be done, please, no, okay, all right. Well, you do, you know, you know what you do have, though don't touch me. Okay, you have, you have the legendary uh gaming mug, so you should be good yeah, that's what I was drinking out of when I went into the car okay, well, that didn't work. Then I almost had a legendary cough mug all right, all right right. Now, though, it's time for the latest headlines in the world of technology.
Speaker 1:Here are our top technology stories of the week.
Speaker 2:All right, Story number one TikTok's clock is still ticking. Let's go to Lisa Walker for more on this story.
Speaker 4:US President Donald Trump has granted TikTok a second 75-day extension to comply with a law that requires the highly popular video app to either sell its US operation or face a ban in the country. The social media platform, which claims to have more than 170 million users in the US, must cease operations in the US under a law passed by Congress, unless a buyer is found. In a statement last week, bytedance mentioned that it had been in discussions, but noted that an agreement has not been executed. There are key matters. Any agreement will be subject to approval under Chinese law. So who was in the running to take over this platform? Back to you guys in the studio.
Speaker 2:All right, so let's talk a little bit about this. Who might buy TikTok? As the ban deadline looms, amazon joins the bidders, so it's really interesting that essentially, we have bidders that are all taking care of it. Tiktok deals reportedly nearly finalized last week, but fell apart after Trump on the same day announced sweeping global tariffs. I don't know if you've heard about these tariffs.
Speaker 3:No, I have no idea what this is all about.
Speaker 2:Okay so, and it was imposed on China. So all of a sudden, the agreement was put on hold and now the agreement is waiting for approval of existing investors, ByteDance, the US government and China. Now Trump imposed these global import taxes, which have caused a problem in the negotiations of the purchase of TikTok. It's interesting to see who is all in this bid to purchase TikTok. We have computer giant Microsoft, we got private equity giant Blackstone, venture capital firm Andersonerson, hose warts and search engine ai. Company perplexity is also in the stakes for purchasing this social media app. Now you know what? I will look back at our prediction show, and this was the year that I did not predict microsoft would purchase a social media app. And guess what?
Speaker 3:oh well, you might be wrong. Uh, you could be wrong I actually think you're wrong most of the time those are.
Speaker 2:So you know, this is the time that I think that's going to happen. Where I think? Microsoft. To be honest, if you're going to have somebody in there, I think that's the one that will work the best I don't know, black blackstone, who already owns most of the country.
Speaker 3:Anyway, probably uh is interested in it. Yeah, yeah, they want they want to complete their conversion into a rental economy. Would you want Amazon to have this? You know I don't want Amazon to have any more stuff either. Ok, OK. I would totally agree with that you know, but then again I don't. I think we should just ban tiktok altogether, and as well as twitter and x and whatever it's going to be called next week, when it, when xai changes the name again. Okay whatever.
Speaker 2:Okay, all right now on the story number two okay.
Speaker 3:Well, if you don't know yet, nintendo has confirmed the nintendo switch 2 is coming out with a hefty price tag of $449.99 for the console. That's the same price as an Xbox or a PlayStation 5, though I guess they just want their piece of the digital pie there.
Speaker 2:Okay all right, if you get the bundle.
Speaker 3:It's going to be $499.
Speaker 2:What.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think. What's the bundle? Come with a game, Comes with Mario Kart, I believe.
Speaker 7:No, Mario Kart World.
Speaker 3:Available on June 5th this year. The Nintendo Switch 2 was fully revealed last week, ahead of pre-orders going live on April 9th. Nintendo Switch 2 is the next step at home gaming that can be taken on the go, based on eight years of play. Nintendo Switch 2 comes with the following the console, a joy-con 2 controllers on the left and right, joy-con 2 grips, joy-con 2 straps, nintendo switch 2 dock, ultra high speed hdmi cable, nintendo switch ac adapter and a usbc charging cable. Now, with the bundle, it comes with all that plus mario cart world, and has a suggested retail price of 499.99 in the us. Includes a system and a download code for mario cart world, but if you want to buy that on your own, guess what? How much is it? How much is it, odie?
Speaker 2:How much is it?
Speaker 7:$80. $80 freaking dollars $79.99.
Speaker 2:I'll let you finish, All right but now, if you get the online version, it's $30 cheaper.
Speaker 7:No, it's not.
Speaker 2:Well, hang on, I know If you get the bundle it's $30 cheaper. Yeah, if you get the bundle, it's $30 cheaper. Yeah, they're bundling it so you can get it for free, but that's not the physical game.
Speaker 7:That's only the downloadable, mind you, they're not making a physical game anymore.
Speaker 2:Well, I do believe that you can get the $79.99 one. I believe that's a physical game.
Speaker 7:No, they're giving you download keys.
Speaker 2:Are they all digital?
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's all part of the whole new economy system. Yeah, it's all. Okay, it's all part of the whole new economy system. All right, well, it's nothing. Nothing you have anymore is yours, and so you actually are then renting it.
Speaker 2:It's just like when you buy movies online and you stream them and download them and then all of a sudden, the studio pulls them back and then you've lost the type of deal just think everybody that has the we store. Right, the we store just officially well, it was six months ago closed. So if you had ever bought a digital copy on the wii store and you paid 49 bucks, 59 bucks, 39 for the prices of that, and then it retires, guess what happens?
Speaker 3:you do not get that game anymore yes, that's happening with everything with music, with uh games, with video streaming services. You don't own anything anymore. Then that's where the economy is going. So while it's normal to hear lots of curiosity about how much a new console will cost, the Nintendo Switch 2 in particular has been the focus of a huge lot of hot debates due to the unusual economic environment it's releasing in. As experts said back in January, factors such as supply chain constraints and uncertainty around tariffs could have impacted Nintendo's decision around price setting. However, analysts have also said that Nintendo is likely to sell lots of consoles at launch. Regardless of the price, it'll still sell out.
Speaker 2:Probably, and then it'll be the whole deal where you buy it on the black market and it won't be 4.99, it'll be 700 and some odd dollars that they'll sell this for you too yeah, I'm pretty sure it will do well well, od will uh. Will you be in line for one of these new units? No, I will not, will you buy one of these units?
Speaker 7:no, you know what I'm hoping will happen what's that what they did with the wii u okay, where apparently it had this huge price tag at first launch and then a lot of people realize this is no different than the wii yeah and it's not even a better console in itself, and it has that big, hefty price tag.
Speaker 7:So then it ended up reducing in value a couple months after launch, okay, so I'm hoping that happens with this Also. Another thing to note if you wanted to play Switch games on the Switch 2, you have to pay for an upgrade. Yes, for 20 bucks.
Speaker 2:Yes. That's so ridiculous Per game Per game Per game, not just the platform but for a game. So if you bought yourself, let's say you go down to the local retro video game store and you buy a console one of those type of deals for about 10 bucks, right, if you wanted to play it in your new device by the time you take it home and you pay 10 bucks for it, you'd have to then upsell double the price that you paid. Yeah, to pay it on your new unit for 20 sounds like.
Speaker 3:Sounds like nintendo has really gotten back behind this whole screw you concern.
Speaker 2:So Xbox is coming out with a portable device. Right, their portable device is supposed to be the same price as what the Switch 2 just released. Now I'm interested. I'm going to go with the Xbox portable.
Speaker 7:I'm interested to see how they play it, because I have a feeling that you'll be able to play the Xbox games on the mobile device as well as on the main console that they'll be like transferable without any just your account.
Speaker 2:You just want to come into your account, yeah, and it's supposed to be a cloud-based unit. So what it is, it will have a fast internet connection and it will connect to that to move forward.
Speaker 7:So but I was really hyped at first because the mario world is just like a GTA Mario Kart, but very friendly. And you know that's not even the full bundle. You think the bundle would come with the camera and the additional joysticks. It's just a game.
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, you know, as our buddy Elon Musk said about his cryptocurrency what's that? It's a hustle.
Speaker 7:Honestly, my Switch is doing fine. I bought it in 2020. I'm not gonna buy the console. I was really hyped for it, but all right.
Speaker 2:Well, now we're gonna move on to story number three. All right. Fbi has confirmed that north korean hackers stole 1.5 billion from cryptocurrency exchange by bit on friday the largest crypto heist record to date. Now the FBI has encouraged node operators, exchanges bridges, defi services, blockchain analytic firms and other cryptocurrency service providers to block transactions originating from the address used by the North Korean hackers to launder the stolen assets. On Friday, the state-sponsored hacking group tracked by Trader Trader, the Lazarus Groups and APT38, intercepted a scheduled transfer of funds from one of the Bybit's cold wallets into a hot wallet, substantially reducing. The Democratic People Republic of Korea was responsible for the theft and approximately 1.5 billion USD in virtual assets from cryptocurrency exchange by a bit. This all happened on February 21st 2025.
Speaker 2:Now the actors proceeded rapidly to have all the converted stolen assets to Bitcoin. They then tried to convert them to actual, real currency. Now, if you're going to put money into a crypto fund here at Tech Time Radio, we've talked about this many times there's only one that we recommend, and that is a company out of California called Coinbase. Now, none of these are to be FDI insured. None of these are guaranteed to exist. But if you're putting any of your cryptocurrency into any of these one-off areas. Let me just talk about this. So, essentially, the cryptocurrency buy bit on Friday said that they are not going to replenish any of those cryptocurrency funds that were stolen. Why would they? Because it's fake money.
Speaker 3:It's a hustle.
Speaker 2:So it's fake. Well, it's $1.5 billion that has just gone down the drain, and if you were one of those individuals that had one of those cryptocurrencies on this exchange, it is now gone forever.
Speaker 3:Yeah, how about? How awesome is that? So you spend money to buy non-money yes, which gets stolen by other people, and because it's non-money, it's not actually stolen. And then you convert it into cash and then you convert it into cash, and then you can convert that.
Speaker 2:The laundering is the only thing they get you on. How about that?
Speaker 7:I didn't think about it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's how they get you. That's why the FBI is involved, because it is a laundering scheme, because you're taking money and you're converting it into other money. You're not really giving an asset for it. So it's kind of the way that they get that taken care of. But let me just tell you, do not be putting your money into cryptocurrency. Well, that ends our top technology stories of the week. Moving on, gwenway will be joining us for our gadgets and gear segment. Next, buckle up as we drive 88 miles per hour into our next segment. See you, guys, after the commercial break.
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Speaker 2:All right, welcome back to Tech Time with Nathan Mumm. Our weekly show covers the top technology subjects without any political agenda. We verify the facts and we do it with a sense of humor, in less than 60 minutes. And, of course, a little whiskey on the side. Today, mark Gregoire, our whiskey connoisseur in studio. What are we tasting?
Speaker 6:today. Today is Joseph A Magn magnus. This is their murray hill club special release, batch number four. Oh, a little coffin over there. Wow, let me tell you about it. It's a little bit long. This is from their website. Okay, but it's going to be all these tons of tasting notes, so see if you get all these notes from it. Water oil it's artfully blended. Eight and 17 year old bourbon, finished in four months in fresh Cavados casks imported from the lower Normandy region of France. The nose offers a complex cornucopia of aromas, such as apple strudel, gingerbread cake drizzled with white icing potpourri, old fashioned New England apple molasses, persian black tea with sugar cubes and roasted chestnuts. I detected every single one of those.
Speaker 3:Thank you, Mike.
Speaker 2:I always tasted the potpourri from my grandmother's old house, but okay.
Speaker 6:Now everything that knows promise is delivered on the palate, with further notes of poached pears in ruby, red, port star, anise, apple blossom honey, brown butter with cinnamon, roasted coffee beans, dried apricots, branded cherries, candied walnuts and aged balsamic vinegar. I tasted every one of those. You are turning into a connoisseur. And what about the finish, Mike? And what about the finish, Mike? They say the finish is extraordinary long and rich, with plenty of plum pudding, apple crisp and citron peels that wash across the palate.
Speaker 6:Okay, I don't know anything about citron peels, but the finish was awesome. So this is from Joseph A Magnus Company. It's distillation.
Speaker 2:It's MGP distilled, but they bring it in and they finish it and they age it. It's a fancy looking bottle, so it's got to be some expensive stuff.
Speaker 6:It's finished bourbon aged 8 to 17 year blend 111 proof only. It's 75% corn, 21% rye, 4% malted barley and the price is $200. That's why you don't like it. There you go.
Speaker 3:Too expensive for.
Speaker 2:I don't know, I don't know, man, I I yeah, well, maybe, it'll grow on me, okay.
Speaker 6:Well, don't forget to like and subscribe. All you people out there hit, smash that like button. Drink responsibly.
Speaker 2:Heaven can wait there you go, perfect. All right, with our whiskey tasting completed, let's move on to our feature segment. Today we have gwen way joining the show. She's an expert in cyber security during the day and a game board geek in the evenings, as well as the producer of Tech Time Radio and our Gadgets and Gear gal. Let's get ready to start our Comcast video stream and our next segment.
Speaker 1:What's new in our Gadgets and Gear.
Speaker 2:All right, Gwen, welcome to the show. Tell us a little bit about yourself for any new listeners that would be listening for their first time.
Speaker 8:Certainly certainly Hi everybody. Listeners that would be listening for their first time. Certainly certainly Hi everybody. I'm Gwen and I have been in the tech world for a little over a quarter of a century. I've decided to go with that instead of just 25 years.
Speaker 2:Okay, I like that, there you go.
Speaker 8:It sounds good. And speaking of sounding good, every word out of Mark's mouth, that whiskey sounds amazing.
Speaker 2:Wow, yeah, okay, all right, thank you Gwen.
Speaker 6:Are you serious? Are you serious right now? I really don't.
Speaker 2:Okay, gwen. Well, technology meets fashion. At our fingertips we have this new device that is born the world's first ring-shaped Bluetooth mouse. Tell us what this device is, tell us why someone would use it, tell us what this gadget is and explain this to me in layman terms, because I looked at this and I got so many questions.
Speaker 8:Oh, I had questions as well and I read into it and I just love it. I've been a fan of wearable technology, from smart watches to health apps Just all of it is fun. This particular one, though, appeals greatly because it is just what you said a ring mouse and that's how you can find it on Kickstarter Search ring mouse. Basically, what this allows you to do is a couple of different things. It's just a ring, you put it on and you're able to use it just like any regular mouse. You can use it for presentations, you can use it if you're in a meeting and want to be subtle about doing work while you're in that meeting and uh, you can also probably use it to mess with other people's work if you want to that was, that was my, that was where you're going.
Speaker 3:first I kind of figured Can I do with that like you would do with an old TV remote? You know where you would be able to switch your neighbor's TV, so I guess if you connected it to their computer as a Bluetooth device.
Speaker 2:If you connect to their Bluetooth.
Speaker 8:Yep, exactly that's awesome.
Speaker 2:All right. So let me tell you does this work only on a Mac environment? Does this work on a PC?
Speaker 8:What does environment? Does this work on a pc? What does this work with? This is pretty open. It's just like any bluetooth mouse. You can use it for max, you can use it for windows machines. I do not know whether it will actually work on a linux machine or not. I had asked that question and, uh, had not gotten an answer yet okay, all right, so you got this.
Speaker 2:It's so. I, I'm looking at it and again you. All you got to do is, I guess, go to kickstarter and search for ring mouse. They got a good name right. There's no other ring my mouse out there uh, tell me how many people have backed it? How many days to go? How much is their fund? Are they fully funded? Tell us the the kind of the metrics they're on on all of that good stuff.
Speaker 8:Yeah, uh, they are fully funded. They were looking for two thousand dollars to start. They're up to 75 000 already. They've got slightly over 800 people backing it and it is available until april 24th okay, wow, until april 24th now yep this is interesting.
Speaker 2:I don't know if I would ever wear a ring for a mouse, so I'm struggling with the application processes of why you would actually use. Would, you wear a mouse for a ring. No, I wouldn't do that way either but I might be a little big.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I just so. So, oh, I'll try to understand this. Why would I use this If I'm at? So I saw their big thing that they said well, mice are loud. Okay, I guess if you bang a mouse on a table constantly in a meeting it could be loud, but you know what? I think you can be pretty quiet with mice, so I don't think that's a huge of the items.
Speaker 8:The sound wasn't really the big thing for me. Of the of the. Uh, the sound wasn't really the big thing for me. Okay, the thing that really interests me is, as my career progresses, as I'm sure many others uh, I'm doing a lot more presentations now, okay, and it's much easier if you're up there speaking, to just click a button on a ring than it is to either have one of the you know, actual remote controls or try to use your actual mouse or have one of those floating mice that they have now. This just seems much simpler and less distracting okay, okay, I, I guess now.
Speaker 2:So there's looks like there's two buttons on here and then there's like a little screen type of deal. What's that let's? I didn't quite understand what the screen area was for little screen type of deal.
Speaker 8:What's that let's? I didn't quite understand what the screen area was for. That's that's actually a pointer that you can use okay, so that you're able to, you know, not only advance slides, uh, in the presentation, but also point to things on the slide yeah, and you can now mess with your cat, with a mouse, oh a ring with the arena okay that's not the
Speaker 2:joke buddy it's fine, move on, okay. So you know, most of the time I I buy, I did not look to back this. So so tell us though, now, what's the price? Now? Hopefully you don't have to pay import tariffs. No, joking aside, I mean, who knows? Is the company local? Is it in the United States? Is it overseas?
Speaker 8:It is. It's out of Arvada Colorado.
Speaker 2:Okay, which is good, that's nice.
Speaker 8:Currently you can still get some of the early bird specials, All right. So, for example, if you want to get the stainless steel version, it's only $69. If you want to kind of bump it up a little bit and get the titanium alloy, it is currently $89.
Speaker 2:You know, I guess that's 69 bucks. That's not that bad, because if you pay for a high-end mouse right now, you're paying about 49 to 69 bucks for a mouse with that.
Speaker 3:You know, my biggest thing now is how long is it going to last? Because you know I got a Fitbit last February. Okay, it has a one-year warranty yeah my warranty ran out this february.
Speaker 2:My fitbit stopped working last night, so yeah, so you're just out of the warranty thing, yeah just out of the warranty.
Speaker 3:The fitbit completely fails.
Speaker 2:It bricked itself oh no, is there anything you can do to fix it.
Speaker 3:I tried everything that is suggested on the internet and it didn't work. No and even throwing it against the wall didn't help so put it in the freezer for a few hours.
Speaker 8:So how long does the battery? How do?
Speaker 2:you charge, I guess, how do you charge this ring?
Speaker 8:that is a good aspect for that there is a container that charges it, kind of like what you have for airpods okay, for the apple devices, so you're able to put it in its container. It charges it each charge. If you fully charge it is up to 10 hours of use. If you need a just really quick charge that you can do something specific, if you charge for about five minutes it will last for about an hour. Okay, so that you can do something specific.
Speaker 2:If you charge for about five minutes, it will last for about an hour. Wow, okay, that's actually pretty reasonable. So it's like a mouse charge for that, yeah but again, how long will it last?
Speaker 3:I mean physically, if it's a titanium ring, it probably will last quite a bit, right yeah, but how long will the functionality functionality work?
Speaker 2:well, since it's bluetooth, I'm sure it only does like you got button click here, button do here. So you got two buttons and, and uh, in a laser pointer it's not. So if you look at that, I guess that's not that sophisticated, because if you have two buttons, what happens, though, if you're wearing the ring and you hit the buttons and then it's connected to your computer and it opens up? I'm struggling.
Speaker 3:What are you dancing around there, buddy? Well, you said it opens up stuff. You know what other people see, or you're in a presentation. That's what I'm thinking.
Speaker 2:I think you're in a presentation. All of a sudden it goes back to the Windows screen Right. So you actually double click on it and it does a double click. You actually double click on it and it does a double click. It goes out of your window and then you have to. Now, it's not going to be. You can't navigate your ring to go left and right Cause it's only the buttons right, so I couldn't get it back. So here I'm on stage going help, help, and then someone's going to have to plug in a physical mouse, put it down, move it around.
Speaker 8:And then I'll say your ring. So I am okay. I think you would definitely have to practice with it before using it for a presentation but I still think the usability is there okay, all right, well, so so are you gonna?
Speaker 3:are you gonna get the delorean version? Are you gonna get the upgrade? I'm getting zero of these. The question goes.
Speaker 2:The question goes no, I'm actually gonna get zero of these. I have no real interest, but gwen the listeners want to, are you going to get one of these units?
Speaker 8:I think I am. I'm going to go ahead and go for the stainless steel, because I don't need anything too fancy. I just want something that I can easily flip slides with.
Speaker 2:Tina. Would be really cool though, I guess is if you had this like to your wife's phone and you add the Bluetooth without her noting, and then she's like sitting there and she's scrolling through and all of a sudden you start scrolling through it's like what the heck's going on to my computer? What the heck's going on to my iPhone? I think.
Speaker 8:Nathan's talking about me to it.
Speaker 3:That would be like an April Fool's joke. Yeah, you weren't here for my previous joke, were you?
Speaker 2:Well, no, I mean no, I was.
Speaker 3:but I mean this is yeah, I would take it to the office and hook it into other people's computers and be like messing with them and you just walk over to them because he doesn't look like.
Speaker 2:You have a mouse and you're just walking over there and you're like clicking and sliding and you get one of these boring things and as Nathan talks himself into it.
Speaker 8:I think both of you might be buying these now. That sounds great practical joke.
Speaker 3:I was on board when you first started talking about it, because I immediately saw the practical joke part of it especially when you're bucks especially when you're you know all these stupid, boring meetings with everybody in their power points. Can you imagine sitting there?
Speaker 2:just taking over the next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next.
Speaker 3:And you're like okay, now we're done, like yeah or you know, keep, keep it on the same one, and every time they move it, just move it back, and just just okay, all right.
Speaker 2:Okay, all right. Well, you know, all right. Well, gwen, it's always great having you talk about new gadgets on the show. Um, we want to thank you for being a part of the show. I realized we only get 12 unique items per year because you're on once a month, so when we actually go through all these items, I end up well, that's good for you, mr.
Speaker 3:Mr, buy everything.
Speaker 2:I only buy about 10 of these things, so this is the one that I may pass, but you know what that's okay well, the more you think about all that stuff that we were talking about. Just think if I was doing that over here and then all of a sudden Odie's trying to run the board there and all of a sudden they slide up and slide down.
Speaker 8:Odie I'm sorry.
Speaker 7:Well, of those 10 items, how many do you actually receive?
Speaker 2:Normally like 7 of the 10. Normally it's like 3 that don't go through. That's still more than half he buys 100.
Speaker 3:He gets eight back. That's how it works.
Speaker 2:I just got this new dot one. Did you ever remember the dot thing that we had? I just got that. It finally came in Well, Gwen, thank you for being a part of the show.
Speaker 8:We will see you next month Sounds good.
Speaker 2:Where can people find you? Where can people find you online?
Speaker 8:Well, you can find me on LinkedIn, but really the best place to find me is the tech timers group over on facebook there you go.
Speaker 2:They talk to gwen. You can ask her about lots of gadgets there. All right, thank you so much for being a part of our show.
Speaker 2:Gwen bye, gwen, thank you bye all right, that is our segment gadgets and gear up. Next we have mike's mesmerizing moment. Welcome to mike's mesmerizing moment. What does Mike have to say today? All right, my question for you, mike. We're getting into the time when a new video game like Grand Theft Auto is going to come on out, and it looks like the starting price of a video game is going to be in the $100 range for a video game. Is this something that we are going to pay for a video game? Because when I look at my entertainment value, I can go to a movie still for under $20, and they're asking me now to start paying a hundred dollars for a video game. And Grand Theft Auto will have microtransactions in it. So I'm going to pay a hundred bucks and then I'm going to be microtransacting another 200 to $300 for this game.
Speaker 3:So what do you want to know? If people are going to go for it, yeah, well, yeah, they're absolutely going to go. We train people to do this from the very outset. Okay, you know, we use addictive things to get them hooked and then we train them that things are going to go higher priced and everybody just sort of absorbs it and like for me, probably not. You know, I'm not, I wouldn't consider myself that that much of a gamer, in that I will. I'm like always on the hot new titles. I, I like my games and I played the same game. But these folks that are gamers and they're always trying to jump to the next new thing yeah, don't pay for it, so you're going to pay $500 for this new Nintendo device that comes on out.
Speaker 7:Yeah, not me.
Speaker 2:Okay, and then the consumers are asked to spend $75 to $100.
Speaker 3:I think it's ridiculous, but then again I think things are ridiculous that most people just ignore.
Speaker 2:So like $1,000 could easily be spent in like the first month of your purchase of this new Nintendo.
Speaker 9:Switch. Yeah, why not?
Speaker 2:And that's okay.
Speaker 3:A thousand bucks. Do you know how?
Speaker 2:many movies I can go to for a thousand.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but the whole thing with the movies is the movie price is so low because odds are you're going to pay twice as much for the condiments that go with the movie. Okay, that's why that exists. That's why that exists. But we in this world and I don't think we really pay much attention to it, because it's just normal is that we go and we work so that everybody else and their mom can devise ways of separating us from our income. That's what marketing is. That's what all these gaming I mean with the gaming industry, the media every industry is trying to separate you from your dollars.
Speaker 3:They have been training us to do this from way back. They use all kinds of psychological tricks on you. I think it's a normal thing, but I don't think it should be. I think we should push back a lot on it. So I would hope that the gaming community would be like nope, I'm not buying that, it's too much. Odie, would you pay $100?
Speaker 7:for Grand theft auto. I've never played gta, so no, okay, okay. Would you pay 100 bucks for mario kart world? No, no, mario kart 8, that's 60 bucks.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it should not be more than that see it's normalized now that games are 60 bucks. How much were games back when we were?
Speaker 2:kids. Okay, so pc games I went back to this, so pc games like sierra, online games and stuff were 35 to 49. Right, how much were games back when we were kids? Okay, so pc games I went back to this, so pc games like sierra, online games and stuff were 35 to 49 right.
Speaker 3:How much were, how much were nes games?
Speaker 7:I don't know about that, but thinking back to like the ds, that's my first major console yeah or portable console, however you want to 39 bucks a good game that was very popular, 40 bucks yeah, and that makes sense because you could take it anywhere. You could put it anywhere. Yeah, I was able to play on the DSI when they came out with the new one. Yeah, it did not matter what game I had, I didn't have to buy another one.
Speaker 2:But with this, you can't even play your own game, transfer it to another device. No, you have to have two of them. Yeah, so when you go traveling, you're going to be like boom, boom, boom. Here's my Switch 2 and here's my Switch original.
Speaker 7:Yeah, that's so ridiculous.
Speaker 3:Okay, all right. Well, yeah See, I don't know what you're talking about, because I remember buying NES games when I was younger, and you know, of course 29 bucks at Toys R Us.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was always something affordable once I had above 59 I think now. I think now we're.
Speaker 3:We're just sort of edging into let's get away with what we can get xbox for that because when the xbox one came out.
Speaker 7:I remember something like forza yeah sixty dollars. But it made sense for the console, like those, graphics were great for the time. But now would I pay 60 bucks for a digital copy of a game?
Speaker 2:No, Well, that ends our mesmerizing moment. What are you?
Speaker 3:going to say I don't think it was very mesmerizing, real quick yes.
Speaker 7:Gwenny over here says that it's like boiling a frog. They raise the prices a little bit at a time and we don't notice and just keep paying more.
Speaker 3:That's right. But now it's to the point where you're not even owning what you're buying, you're just paying somebody, you're licensing it, leasing it, but.
Speaker 2:NES. Again. Those were like 40 to 50 bucks a game when it came on out. So again, I don't know if it's changed too much From.
Speaker 4:PC.
Speaker 2:I don't know if it's changed too much from PC to the games. It's changed, but not as much.
Speaker 3:It used to cost more to make a game, too, everybody's doing. How, how do you mean? Well, you had to have a plastic container.
Speaker 2:You had to have chips that you had to burn. So those were actual hard cost prices. Nowadays, when you do a game, all it is is software. When you release a software version of a game, you're just putting code out there that somebody downloads. There is no. There is cost for people to develop it the testers. I totally understand there's development costs, but the actual physical costs are much less than what they used to be back when you had a cartridge and you had to have ROMs that were in there and a bunch of testing and burning of the ROMs.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but it was your game.
Speaker 2:It was true.
Speaker 3:I have a bunch of my games at home that I own that. I can't play because I don't have even a Wii anymore.
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Speaker 1:And now let's look back at this week in technology.
Speaker 2:All right, we're going to our Wayback Machine and it's April 12th 1976. Who in the world is Ronald Wayne? One of Apple's computer three's co-founders departed just 11 days after founding the company, selling his 10% stake for $800. During his brief tenure, wayne created the first Apple logo, drafted the company's partnership agreement and wrote the manual for the Apple I. He decided to leave because the partnership agreement imposed unlimited personal liabilities on all the co-founders, no matter which partner accrued the debts. In contrast to Jobs and Wozniak, who were both 21 and 25 at the time, wayne had his own personal assets vulnerable to creditors. Additionally, prior failures of a slot machine venture which launched five years earlier influenced his choice to withdraw from the partnership. Wayne later remarked either I was going to go bankrupt or the richest man in the century. By 1982, his 10% share of Apple Computer had grown to the value of $1.5 billion, which has now soared to $22 billion in 2010, and then saw hindsight 2020. Right now, it'd be worth about $22 billion.
Speaker 3:Maybe this was a tech fail, not a.
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Speaker 1:The segment we've been waiting all week for Mark's Whiskey Mumble.
Speaker 6:All right. Well, somebody at this table is celebrating April 8th today. Oh, and what is that? It's Trading Cards for Grownups Day. Oh, fantastic.
Speaker 2:I love trading cards.
Speaker 6:Now, a collection of trading cards by grownups is usually considered childish. What Trading Cards for Grownups? Day is a day for people pretending to be adults to show their trading cards and be proud of their collection. Oh, I am. It is celebrated by them to try and normalize the collection of trading cards by those that are not children anymore. What a day.
Speaker 2:It is. Do you know how many trading cards I have?
Speaker 3:This is not no. If there were a museum of old toys, it would be you, okay.
Speaker 2:So I do have a lot of. I also big. I have Michael Jordan's rookie. I got a whole bunch of stuff that's been slabbed and put a PSA ratings on, so I'm a big card collector. I never got into Magic, the Gathering or any of those games at the time, I just did really sports cards. It was kind of my thing. Garbage Pail Kids.
Speaker 3:Now time I just did really sports cards was kind of my thing. Garbage pail kids. Now let's talk about an adult that had better things to do than trading cards. Oh wow, okay, joseph magnus story.
Speaker 6:I think it marks on the childish, childish side of that equation. So joseph magnus story begins all the way back in the young, war-torn america in the middle 19th century. Now, during the civil war in 1864, young magnus has received news that his father had been killed in battle, with three younger siblings to take care of. He matured quickly and took on the responsibility of caring for his siblings. His late father had been a merchant and Magnus took after him to become a savvy businessman. He soon discovered a niche market for wholesale liquors. By the time he was 26, he had painstakingly built up a liquor empire. Now, magnus prided himself not only on the quality and age of his spirits, but on intelligent and honorable business methods. Excellent whiskey, he recognized, was more than simply a pleasant experience for drinkers. It was a means of promoting good conversation, close fellowship and the interchange of kindly deeds and pleasant thoughts. That's why we drink. That's why we drink. That's why, because of pleasant thoughts.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I drink right now because both of my kids are getting married. That's why.
Speaker 6:I drink.
Speaker 3:I thought there were other reasons to drink too.
Speaker 6:At the end of the show. Somebody heard you on the radio talking about that. Nathan and I have a present for you.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay heard you on the radio talking about that, nathan, and I have a present for you. Oh, okay, from that person. Okay, all right. Is it alcohol? Maybe whiskey chris? Was it whiskey chris? You'll have to wait and see, but yes okay about the whiskey.
Speaker 6:This one is a thinker, not only throughout sipping it but also every time I've had it. It's a roller coaster of flavors, delivering new ones at each turn. It has rich dark fruit, rais raisins and dark chocolate and lots of flavors of ruby port without that cloying sweetness. The finish on this lasts forever and brings along with it some nice crisp apple. I hope to savor this bottle and will enjoy every pour of it.
Speaker 2:Okay, so you know what I really did not like it. Oh, I know you don't, but I'm starting to get a little bit.
Speaker 2:So it's not. I would never pay the price for this and I would never ask and recommend this from any place that I would be at, but I will say that it is maybe not as bad as I first had when I had the first bite of it. Okay, all right. Well, whiskey and technology are a great pairing, just like the TV show Ren and Stimpy from Nickelodeon 1991 and 1995. Remember Ren and Stimpy.
Speaker 3:All you have to say is Ren and Stimpy. I don't think you have to describe where you're. Do you know how to tell a joke, odie?
Speaker 2:was like who the heck are those? She didn't even know what I was talking about.
Speaker 7:No, I think.
Speaker 3:You know why I made that face? Why is he telling me it was on TV?
Speaker 7:Because we just talked about how childish you are and here you are talking about a Nickelodeon show Absolutely Ren and Stimpy baby you were well into your 20s when that came out.
Speaker 2:Let me just tell you, I still watch South Park pretty religiously myself South.
Speaker 3:Park makes sense, the classic Ren and Stimpy was just yeah then there was Nickelodeon.
Speaker 2:Had it for a bit you are so stupid, Stimpy, that's right. Then MTV got it for like a season or two and then they kind of like went they were trying to do the Beavis and Butthead type of deal. But all right, there we go, continuing on. All right, let's prepare for our technology fail of the week brought to us by Elite Executive Services. We are out of time. Congratulations, you're a failure.
Speaker 9:Oh, I failed. Did I yes, did I yes, did I.
Speaker 2:Yes, all right. Well, this week's technology failure kind of comes to us from this company called DOGE have you ever heard of this?
Speaker 3:Is it a cryptocurrency? No, it's not cryptocurrency. I think we'll take a little drink of this one.
Speaker 2:All right. And what is happening with the staff for Social Security? And what is happening with the staff for Social Security Now? Doge offered layoffs at Social Security and plans to get the IT team and the website. Continuity is breaking. No-transcript is. They're having problems with the traffic on their current website. So those people that are trying to use Social Security services through the website have actually been hit with crashes, unable to go to the site itself because the senior department officials said that they do not have adequate people for their IT team. Their IT team consists of about 4,000 members and they've already been told that they should expect at least 800 or more to be laid off next week.
Speaker 6:Now I also heard that they claim that they're going to rewrite the whole Social Security underlying code which is on Cobalt. Yeah, and rewrite it in three months, okay, and make it all perfect and all easy and all perfect, okay.
Speaker 2:Well, you know what that's going to be interesting?
Speaker 6:They should be game designers.
Speaker 3:They should be game designers. Oh wait, Maybe they are.
Speaker 2:It could be like Bethesda, day one and then you have to write the whole patch and download the whole game.
Speaker 3:So that's what they're going to do they're going to write all this code, launch it. It's not going to work. Then they're going to spend eight years patching it until it doesn't work. Still, that's right, well hang on It'll be great.
Speaker 2:It'll be great Our technology fail is. I understand there this PSA out there for everybody. But please, if you're having problems with something already, it is not the ability to go in there and just cut everything so you can then see what happens. You need to be able to fix those items first before you go and cut.
Speaker 6:We're going to head out to our last commercial. So you mean, like measure twice cut once.
Speaker 2:No, no, well, no, not even measure twice. That's not how it is. Just do an evaluation. It's cut five times, measure none, and then just put wood glue back together for any of the pieces that you cut incorrectly, right there you go. Alright, we're going to head out to our last commercial break. When we return, we have our Nathan Nugget of the week and, of course, our pick of the day. So sit back, raise a glass. You're listening to Tech Time Radio with Nathan Mumm.
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Speaker 1:This is your Nugget of the Week, all right? Well, let's get ready for our Nathan Nugget of the Week, all right.
Speaker 2:Well, let's get ready for our Nathan Nugget. Now. Microsoft is celebrating 50 years, and I worked for them for one-fifth of that time. I have a quiz here for Mike, mark and Odie. Let's take a look at some of the important red-letter dates for Microsoft and compare them to what we have available now in our Microsoft 50 quiz. Here's what we go, all right, do we know when the beginning is considered, when Microsoft was founded? Does anybody know what date that is?
Speaker 3:The date or the year. Well give me the year. Give me the year 1988.
Speaker 2:Nope, Odie do you have an idea?
Speaker 7:No, okay, I really don't.
Speaker 2:Mark, do you have an?
Speaker 6:idea 1975, probably around April 4th.
Speaker 2:Somebody. I really don't. Mark, do you have an idea? 1975, probably around April 4th. Somebody read their script ahead of time. That is correct. Ding, ding, ding. Good job. Microsoft was founded from the humble Is that in the script.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was in the script. In the humble beginnings, microsoft grew quite frequently with the personal computer and software company. All right, we're going to take a look at the next thing Now. Everybody's heard of Microsoft Word right Now. It was officially launched as a revolutionary document creation process. It was actually competing with a product in the market that had 95% of the share, which was called WordPerfect WordPerfect which is a much better product.
Speaker 2:It was it was, but Microsoft Word came on out. Does anybody know what date it came on out? 1988. No, a little earlier, a little earlier, a little earlier od. Do you have any idea on this? It was like 84 was mark.
Speaker 6:Oh, one year before, mike. Oh, there you go. 1983, 1983 october 29th.
Speaker 2:That is correct. Now, do you know what was the price that you had to pay in 1983 for a copy of microsoft word? 20 bucks, nope, 79 dollars for a copy.
Speaker 3:It was a video game. It was a video game. It was $80.
Speaker 2:It was $80 for the productivity. Guess how much you pay now for it? Nothing, because it is now available in the Office Suite for free. If you create a Microsoft account or a Bing account, you can go online and use Microsoft Word on the web version for free for everybody to use today.
Speaker 3:Didn't that lead to Microsoft getting in trouble? Well, they got in trouble for lots of stuff, having lead to microsoft getting in trouble.
Speaker 2:Uh well, they got in trouble. Monopoly, yeah, something like all right now the biggest thing here microsoft, windows 95, big, big deal. It was at least released in 1995, but do you know which month it was released? In 1988. No well, that was the better version. Do you know what?
Speaker 3:month was it released.
Speaker 6:April, nope Mark. I think it was the best month of the year. What was that? November?
Speaker 2:Is that the best month?
Speaker 6:of the year. No, it was November. I was wrong. I thought it was August.
Speaker 2:No, November 20th 1985. And it actually shipped with a bunch of issues that were a problem. What's that, Cody?
Speaker 7:Were you asking for the month?
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 6:You're off there, buddy.
Speaker 7:Excuse me, it was August 24th 1995.
Speaker 6:Yes, no, you were talking about the first Windows, not Windows 95. You mixed the two up. The first Windows version they released.
Speaker 2:You worked there for I meant Windows 95. I'm for, I meant Windows 95. I'm sorry, I meant Windows 95. Windows 95 was August.
Speaker 6:No, Windows 95 was August of 1995.
Speaker 2:I still want to know why August is the best month of the year. I'm looking at the thing right now, November 20th 1985.
Speaker 7:Windows is released. Windows opened up a new era of multitasking.
Speaker 6:That wasn't Windows 95. That was the original Windows, windows 3.1. Remember that early.
Speaker 2:I guess I'm looking at the picture of the Windows 95 release, but it was actually.
Speaker 7:Windows.
Speaker 2:Word perfect. Microsoft may be wrong on that thing. There, there you go. Okay, now we're continuing on. So Odie now has the same thing, so she can go ahead too.
Speaker 6:She's cheating too. All right, Mike will know this next one.
Speaker 3:I still want to know why August is the best month of the year.
Speaker 2:It's his birthday.
Speaker 7:Leo.
Speaker 2:Internet Explorer is released. Internet Explorer was competing with another. Does everybody know what they were competing against?
Speaker 4:Nobody cares, netscape, netscape, big time at the time percent of the market.
Speaker 2:Yeah, came on out, it was august 24th. Better product august 24th. Escape was yeah, yep 1995 and msn has launched as a debut with windows 95 on august 24th 1995. It was the combined of news and technology for the msnbc uh arm. That uh really kind of failed. Uh was not a really good I adventure. But they do have MSNBC now as its own news article and then you have MSN. Let's move on to your favorite one. When was the Xbox?
Speaker 3:Well, you didn't answer the question. When did MSN come out? Msn came out in August.
Speaker 2:August 24th, msn and.
Speaker 6:IE. All were launched with Windows 95.
Speaker 3:I'm just clarifying I didn't hear the month.
Speaker 2:Maybe I'm just stuck on the fact that August is the best month of the year, the Xbox console the original Xbox console, the one that I actually worked in helped put all the hardware in this bad boy.
Speaker 3:It came out in 1988. 2001,. November 15th.
Speaker 6:Space Odyssey. We can skip the next one.
Speaker 3:The next one just does not matter.
Speaker 6:Bing was launched in June 3rd 2009. Just move on to the next one.
Speaker 2:Microsoft Edge is released.
Speaker 6:Nobody cares.
Speaker 2:Nobody cares about Edge, April 29th 2015.
Speaker 6:That one took me by surprise. For some reason in my mind I just thought that was older than that.
Speaker 2:No, Edge is just the Internet Explorer.
Speaker 3:That's because it works like an old person.
Speaker 2:I still use Google Chrome and Firefox, and Brave is my browser. I really don't use. Edge Okay.
Speaker 6:Cheers to Microsoft 50 years. 50 years here we go there, we go.
Speaker 2:Cheers, cheers. I'm glad to know that I'm older than Microsoft. There you go. All right, there we go.
Speaker 1:Now, though, let's move on to our pick of the day. And now our pick of the day for our whiskey tastings. Let's see what bubbles to the top.
Speaker 6:Okay, we are drinking today to Joseph A Magnus the Murray Hill Club Special Release batch four. And batch four is a blend of eight and 17-year-old bourbon finished in Cavados Cass. It's 111 proof, $200. Are you giving it a thumbs?
Speaker 2:up yeah dude, this is awesome. I love this. I'm giving it a thumbs down. It does not hit my palate at all and you know I feel really bad. Do you want the rest of my?
Speaker 6:$200?. You don't have a palate buddy, I'm sure Mike will finish that. There you go, okay. Finish that. There you go, okay. All right, I got a couple things for you, nathan.
Speaker 2:Yep, what do we got going on here?
Speaker 6:First of all from Whiskey Chris. He heard about your two weddings. He also listened to one of your shows that's our one listener out there and he heard that remember he'd given us this bottle to review Traveler's Whiskey. Yeah, and you just loved it.
Speaker 2:I did. Oh, thank you, Whiskey Chris, Whiskey Chris. I can fill my cup with this and neither one of us wanted it.
Speaker 6:It's not a drink for a connoisseur.
Speaker 3:Can I get that one?
Speaker 4:No, no, that's my bottle, dang it.
Speaker 2:All right. And then also oh, you got more stuff here.
Speaker 6:You had given me a wine bottle, so I'm returning that to you empty.
Speaker 2:It was phenomenal. This is Woodinville Wine Cellars. You love this.
Speaker 6:Phenomenal wine. Every wine from there has been terrific. Each one is more of a gets better and better. Thank you for these gifts.
Speaker 3:I have a bunch of not weddings happening this year. Can I get some whiskey?
Speaker 6:You can have the leftover in Nathan's glass I didn't backwash.
Speaker 5:Well, you know what fans.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much for being a part of our program. Is you the reason that we make this show? Well, maybe not. Maybe just for Mark and Mike and I just to have a good time hanging out together.
Speaker 6:And drink a little.
Speaker 2:That's right. Well, we want to let everybody know that the science of tomorrow starts with the technology of today. See you guys next week Later. Bye-bye.
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