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256: Stapling Your Way to Tech Disaster: GameStop's Switch 2 Fiasco, We Explore Nintendo's Power Play: Ownership, Privacy, and the Future of Gaming as Renter Instead of Owners | Air Date: 6/10 - 6/16/2025

• Nathan Mumm • Season 7 • Episode 256

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The concept of ownership is rapidly changing in our digital world, raising alarming questions about whether we truly own the technology we purchase. This episode dives deep into Nintendo's controversial Switch 2 terms of service, which grant them the power to render your console "permanently unusable" if you modify it in ways they don't approve. We explore the troubling implications of this shift toward a "rental society" where corporations maintain ultimate control over devices in your home.

Amazon's latest venture into humanoid delivery robots highlights another technological frontier with far-reaching implications. After failed experiments with drones and sidewalk rovers, the e-commerce giant is developing human-like robots capable of carrying heavier loads and working longer hours than their human counterparts. We discuss whether this represents progress or a concerning step toward replacing human workers with AI-powered alternatives.

The perils of AI misuse come into sharp focus as we examine how two major newspapers published completely fabricated book recommendations generated by artificial intelligence. This publishing blunder underscores the growing challenges of distinguishing between human and machine-created content in our increasingly AI-saturated media landscape.

Our Gadgets and Gear segment showcases an innovative AI-powered cooking thermometer that promises to revolutionize your grilling experience, though not everyone on our panel is convinced of its advantages over existing technology. We also explore the fascinating history of educational technology with a look back at Texas Instruments' groundbreaking Speak and Spell from 1978.

Between sips of bourbon and American single malt in our monthly whiskey tasting, we contemplate which fictional robot companion would make the ideal household assistant. Would you prefer R2-D2's sass or C-3PO's protocol expertise? Join us for this technology journey that will make you question who truly controls your digital future.

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Nathan Mumm:

Welcome to Tech Time with Nathan Mumm the show that makes you go hmm. Technology news of the week the show for the everyday person talking about technology, broadcasting across the nation with insightful segments on subjects weeks ahead of the mainstream media. We welcome our radio audience of 35 million listeners to an hour of insightful technology news. I'm Nathan Mumm, your host and technologist, with over 30 years of technology expertise. Our co-host, micah Day, is in studio and he's the award-winning author and our human behavior expert.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, he's been up for hours, that's right.

Nathan Mumm:

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Speaker 1:

Welcome everyone. Let's start today's show.

Nathan Mumm:

Now on today's show. All right, welcome to Tech Time Radio, where the digital frontier collides with two guys drinking whiskey. Today's episode is packed with stories that challenge your everyday technology world. Now Gwynn Way returns for gadgets and gear, showcasing innovations that can reshape the world or reveal something that is able to be used with the help of AI. Now Gwynway returns for gadgets and gear, showcasing innovations that can reshape the world or reveal something that is able to be used with the help of AI.

Nathan Mumm:

Now, in addition, we have our standard features, including Mike's mesmerizing moment, our technology fail of the week and impossible Nathan nugget and, of course, our pick of the day, whiskey tasting, to see if our selected whiskey picks get a zero, one or two thumbs up by the end of the show. Now we have our four whiskeys to test, so we'll have Mark Mark here to show us all the stuff that we have available to drink. We then pick one of these that we've got to make sure that we pick one of these whiskeys, otherwise he says he gets to choose them. So let's make sure, mike, me and you are on the same page so we don't get stuck with something that the Mark likes and we don't like. Top technology stories of the week.

Speaker 1:

Here are our top technology stories of the week.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, story number one. Nintendo Switch 2 release happened last week and, oh boy, do we have some stories to share today. One of them is on our fail, but let's lead off with an update from Lisa Walker.

Speaker 5:

Nintendo has officially launched the Nintendo Switch 2, the long-awaited successor to its best-selling gaming console. Featuring a larger display, 4k docking capabilities and advanced magnetic Joy-Con 2 controllers, the Switch 2 promises a next-level gaming experience for players of all ages. Nintendo has incorporated backward compatibility, ensuring continued access to beloved titles from the original Switch. The built-in camera and interactive chat features introduce fresh ways for players to connect, while the expanded 256GB storage supports even larger digital libraries. The Switch 2 launched alongside blockbuster titles such as Mario Kart World and the Legend of Zelda. Tears of the Kingdom Now back to the studio.

Mike Gorday:

Okay, how does that have anything to do with the problem?

Nathan Mumm:

Oh well, so that's just kind of an update of what we got going on for the Switch 2. This is a recap, right, and we're going to start off here with a major story. We got two things to talk about Now. Buried in the legalese is a clause that says if you try to bypass system protection, modify software or mess with the console in any way that's not approved by nintendo, they can take action. In other words, when you buy a switch 2, you do not own the device so what?

Mike Gorday:

what you're saying is that if you try to modify the console so you can say cheat, nintendo can brick your well, not necessarily just that, but that is one of the things that are available there.

Nathan Mumm:

So I have a steam deck right. That's my last big console purchase I've gotten. I can do whatever I want on the steam deck. I can load whatever os I want to do on that. I can do whatever needs to be taken care of, not a problem. But if you get a new nintendo, switch to the exact word he makes it clear as it says nintendo may render the nintendo account, services and or the applicable nintendo device permanently unusable, in whole or in part, if they deem necessary.

Nathan Mumm:

So they can brick your console. They can brick your console. So if I wanted to load, like, some mods on it to play some old games, which I've done on many of the nintendo devices now, this oh, I see, I see where you're coming at it from, for modifying or anything that needs to be taken care of.

Nathan Mumm:

I open and I crack that case. Guess what? I don't own it anymore and they can shut it down. If I even wanted to replace any of the screen hardware, do any additional speaker replacements anything that they deem not acceptable? They can brick my device and guess what? There's no legal recourse for me okay, well I.

Mike Gorday:

I'm thinking that that's mostly because of the rampant cheating that people do with these things. Okay, well I get that.

Nathan Mumm:

But if you're purchasing a unit to own as a video game unit that sits in your house, it should be A private and B it should be yours.

Mike Gorday:

Well, yeah, it should be yours, but there is a problem with the gaming community, in which cheaters run rampant and destroy the game for other people, so I'm not really sure that I'm on board with what your stance is on this one.

Nathan Mumm:

I dislike it. Okay, because you're a cheater?

Mike Gorday:

No, I don't cheat but I like the mod.

Speaker 4:

You like the mod stuff right.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, I do, all right. So yeah, I mean, there's definitely a community of modders out there that might be upset by this. I mean, we're not real gamers, we don't. But I don't know if you have a problem when there is obviously somebody who's cheating in the game that you're playing.

Speaker 6:

I don't.

Speaker 5:

We've had this discussion before when it comes to using AI for college work.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, ok, we have. Yeah, but this is the first hardware purchase mainstream that included wording like this. So now my question is is Apple going to do the next with iPhones? Are we soon going to start be purchasing iPhones?

Mike Gorday:

You know, it's all going to move towards this, because our society is moving towards a feudal society. We're a rental society. Now we don't own anything anymore, and I think that's where everybody wants to take it, because if you own everything, what do you get to do Whatever?

Nathan Mumm:

you want, with it, you get to make the rules. So are you saying that we're changing now into like a feudal system where we just rent everything?

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, so it's a quiet change back to a feudal-like system, because if you don't own your house, if all you have available for housing is rental units, that means somebody else controls how you spend your money.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, let me ask you about this next item here Game chat. So this is the brand new thing added to the Switch you can now do game chat. With the launch of the Switch 2 and its game chat communication features, nintendo updated their privacy policy to note. The company may also monitor and record your video and audio interactions with other users. Now that the Switch 2 is officially launched, we clearly understand on how the console handles audio and video During the game chat sessions. As well as footage, it can be sent to Nintendo or shared with partners, including law enforcement. So before using game chat on Switch 2 for the first time, you must consent to a set of game chat terms displayed on the system itself.

Nathan Mumm:

These terms warn you that chat content is recorded and stored temporarily both on your system and the system of those you chat with. But those stored recordings are only shared with Nintendo. If a user reports a violation of Nintendo's community guidelines, the company writes the terms lay out that these recordings are available only if submitted within 24 hours, suggesting the recordings are deleted from local storage after a full day. But we've actually done studies on this that the recording still sits there Now. They do delete the name file, but it's not removed from the memory itself. Like you can delete a file from your computer and there's easy tools to recover it, so it doesn't really delete it itself.

Mike Gorday:

So is this something you don't like?

Nathan Mumm:

No no. So essentially, authorities, courts, lawyers, subcontractors and legal communities are allowed to view this information.

Mike Gorday:

Only by first a violation has to occur, right?

Nathan Mumm:

Sure, okay, okay, great, yes, now, okay, so it's going to get hacked.

Mike Gorday:

I'm having trouble defending this one because it's a little 1984 me for my taste. But we also know there is a lot of bullying that goes on in chats qualifies as cyberbullying. So to me this sounds like something that already exists. It's just popping out more quickly.

Nathan Mumm:

So I, so I buy a brand new switch too. Okay, I don't know, you can't play it you can't open it up and modify it. I don't own it and anytime I'm chatting with anybody anytime I'm chatting with somebody, it's recording that and sending it to Nintendo and you can't threaten people, and I'm okay with that.

Mike Gorday:

How?

Nathan Mumm:

the hell. Can we be okay with that? How can these?

Mike Gorday:

units be selling. Like I said, I'm not what you would consider to be a gamer. I don't sit down and do game chats where I'm yelling at people and calling them names. You don't own anything.

Nathan Mumm:

You don't own anything anymore. Maybe story number two will relax me a bit.

Mike Gorday:

I'm just very, very frustrated. I don't think so.

Nathan Mumm:

Because I don't think you should be paying for something, and then they get to record you. Ugh, never mind. Let's move on to story number two. I could be on this for another hour and a half, so let's not go there, okay, all right, you know that amazon has tried delivery services with drones I have.

Mike Gorday:

Yes, it didn't work really well it what it didn't work no, it didn't work really well it was a big, so they disappeared right before the pandemic. Do you remember when they tried using those little rover bots?

Mike Gorday:

I do on the streets yep, yeah to deliver like packages and different stuff yep, they, in fact they uh little Yep In fact, they started testing it right in the county that we live in, yep, and then it went there several places around the country. That didn't work out either. No, so apparently these two failures have really driven Amazon to come up with a new idea For robots Okay. They're trying to build humanoid robots to speed up deliveries for you okay, how does that work?

Mike Gorday:

they want human-like autonomous delivery methods. Right, so they. They want robots that can walk right up to your door and deliver your packages. The company is reportedly finishing work on a san francisco-based obstacle park to work on the technology. It's unclear how soon it will be developed or used for real-world deliveries.

Nathan Mumm:

Is this going to be like an American Ninja obstacle course you?

Mike Gorday:

got stuff going on here. I don't know what it's like.

Mike Gorday:

Okay all right Maybe you should ask them through your Nintendo Switch. Amazon has been touting its work in robotics for the home and for warehouse use, but this is the first time the company has made an explicit push into using human-like robotics for package delivery, which could replace human workers. The robots would use some of the same AI technology that the company is rolling out across other areas of this business. Humanoid robots can carry heavier loads and work in human environments and perform monotonous, physically demanding tasks that fewer and fewer people are willing to do. That makes sense. A big, large package.

Nathan Mumm:

I mean our poor FedEx guy.

Mike Gorday:

This is still problematic. This is still problematic because, you know, elon wants to do this too. Elon has this big idea we're creating, essentially, a slave labor force. So the reason why the little trash cans that we're driving around didn't work out allegedly is because of regulations limiting autonomous things.

Nathan Mumm:

So I'm not sure how they're going to push past all this legal stuff they're just going to put artificial skin on it and you just won't know any difference between this and every person.

Mike Gorday:

Let's pull back. Let's pull back from the it's like data.

Nathan Mumm:

This is like data from star trek. Yeah right, so he's gonna just be lifting stuff up.

Mike Gorday:

We have just jumped into oh sorry.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, sci-fi, that's what I thought of. I think of data. I just saw an episode on next generation that I'm watching. He lived all these like 500 pound stuff and then no human could do it, but he saved the world.

Mike Gorday:

That's yeah, okay, yeah, there's no point talking to you about this stuff. Keep on going, keep on going the idea is that, in addition to what they're doing already, uh, robots can do work that humans can't right. Uh, they can work for longer periods of time.

Nathan Mumm:

Uh, they can significantly reduce labor costs that makes sense, because I guess you don't have any l and I claims from a robot. Right, that's true.

Mike Gorday:

So if your back is not going to have to be, dealing with people calling in sick or calling in late, or you know if they are sufficiently reliable, of course, and versatile and economically efficient. The economics are the key Well the problem is is that right now, costs are really high to get them integrated and maintained into a workforce and they require AI that's powerful enough to ensure they're safe around human beings.

Nathan Mumm:

I could just see one of these walking and you just pull up in your truck and you hijack it and throw it in the back of your truck.

Mike Gorday:

Well, that was one of the problems. I don't know if you could do that, because I imagine these weigh 400 pounds.

Nathan Mumm:

Well then, what if it comes up my stairs to my house and my my stairs can only take 200 pounds.

Mike Gorday:

Well then, your, your robot's not going to make it up and I wonder if they're going to, you know, sue you for damages because you have unsafe stairwells, okay, so who knows, who knows, but you know, I feel like. I feel like this is going to come out the same way that the little trash can.

Nathan Mumm:

Oh you think it's the thumb downs, and then well, yeah, with the yeah, I mean.

Mike Gorday:

Some of the problems with the little trash can thing was that wasn't one of them vandalized?

Nathan Mumm:

they had to have amazon people follow them around because of those regulations and they and they didn't go very fast it's kind of like the amazon stores trundled around like as fast as somebody could walk so you remember the Amazon stores that you used to be able to go in and buy your food, and then you just walk out and then it charges you yeah Amazon Go. Yeah, and then, all of a sudden, we found out that it was really people in India that were watching cameras that were then making the evaluation of what you bought on the way out, and it really wasn't the technology that was taking care of that. Yeah, so is this just Amazon?

Mike Gorday:

trying to say that I don't even know, but that's what they want to do is make humanoid robots. Or they don't want to make humanoid, they want to use humanoid robots. I'm sure Elon wants to stick his little fingers in that little pie. All right, let me ask you this Do you have a summer reading list?

Nathan Mumm:

No, you don't have a summer reading list. I have a reading list I don'tTimes summer reading list that had all of the top 15 books to read. Would you be excited about that insert? Sure, all right. And then it was so good that you also ran it in the Philadelphia Inquirer. I mean, that would just sound like fantastic. You have it in two inserts for this great thing.

Mike Gorday:

I think it's funny that you're talking about reading books.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, you don't read books well that's true, I wait for the movies. But let me just say this what if you had an ai generated summer reading list with fake titles appeared in a print insert in two major newspapers? I think that would be a fail. It's indicate well, it would be a fail. But I have even a better fail, for the technology fail.

Nathan Mumm:

So this moved to a main story. It's indicative of the large harms of book publishing and journalism. Too many books and too little time was the quote on their advertisement. It says that we have taken the time and weeks of reading and months of preparation to confidently bring you these 15 titles. Now that must be too good to be true, because last week the Chicago Times and the Philadelphia Inquirer ran this print insert with an AI generated summer reading list from a third party contributor.

Nathan Mumm:

Several titles were made up. You can't find. The last algorithm by Andy Weir doesn't even exist. Or the collector's piece by Taylor Jenkins reads in bookstores or libraries this summer because they plainly just don't exist. But if you subscribe to these newspapers, guess what they're going to recommend with all their time and effort that they had? That you should be reading these Now. Ai is more and more being used as commonplace, but many argue that you can only train it to do certain stuff, both in books and in the real world of journalism industry. This kind of AI-generated content threatens and undermines the creativity that makes readers in the first place. How can you trust created titles when they don't even exist?

Mike Gorday:

I don't know why you would want to trust an AI. How would?

Nathan Mumm:

you release this? How could you release this insert? Because people are stupid? Okay, all right. So those people are stupid, so have I got this? Okay, all right. So those people are stupid, so what? So I got this and tried to. Okay, so that just tells you like people complain about the newspaper companies. You know it's fake news.

Mike Gorday:

I mean, clearly, this is fake news, it's funny that you're doing this story, because we all know how much I hate AI.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay Well you do and for these reasons Okay.

Mike Gorday:

Because it makes up stuff and it writes books that are really bad and it doesn't have any sense of. There is no sense of control and people are legitimately losing their jobs because of this.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, do you know who needs to lose their job? The editors at the Chicago Sun-Times and Philadelphia Inquirer that ran this print piece.

Mike Gorday:

Those people, I don't know that they need to lose their jobs. I think that they need to stop using AI to do their job. They need to go down and be a type editor.

Nathan Mumm:

Remove being the editor or whatever in charge of the column, go back down and have to actually read this information.

Mike Gorday:

Maybe you should give them Nintendo Switches so they can get them bricked.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, all right, all right. Well, that ends our top technology stories.

Mike Gorday:

Well that was really just a big bitch session, was it?

Nathan Mumm:

Well these are the articles that are shaping our technology landscape.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, I'm surprised.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, that ends our top technology stories of the week. Moving on, Gwen will be bringing us a gadget and gear segment that I can be excited about, I hope. All right, buckle up as we drive 88 miles per hour into the next segment. See you after the commercial break.

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Visit hardtongueglasscom to learn more. Welcome back to Tech Time with Nathan Mumm. Our weekly show covers the top technology subjects without any political agenda. We verify the facts and we do it with a sense of humor, in less than 60 minutes and, of course, with a little whiskey on the side. Today, mark Gregoire, our whiskey connoisseur, is in the studio. Mark, welcome back from your vacation time.

Marc Gregoire:

Thank you so much. We're glad to be back. I do have one comment about your last AI story. What was that? I'm wondering why, after they released that, instead of admitting everything was fake, they should have just put those titles in ChatGPT and created books from them. That's what Nathan would have done.

Nathan Mumm:

That's exactly you know what I didn't even think about, that I should have gone on Amazon. If I would have only known a week ahead of time, I would be a billionaire right now. You would have the best-selling books, that's right. Ten of them. That's right, ten of the 15. All right, well what?

Marc Gregoire:

do. We are back doing our monthly 2024 Flavor Advent Calendar. This is round six and this is the last of the whiskeys that we need to go through. Uh-oh, and then we start going to the semifinals. Just for those new listeners out there, we're using the 2024 Flavor Whiskey Advent Calendar 24 remarkable whiskeys to use for our year-long blind whiskey competition to see which one Nathan and Mike like best. Come along for the ride once a month while they uncover new tastes and train their senses to become true connoisseurs. Today is round six, where they will choose their winner to move on to the semifinals and I'm hoping you guys disagree. No collusion, because I want to be the deciding vote today.

Marc Gregoire:

Wow, wow, wow, wow. I have some strong opinions Now. Today we are putting two iconic American spirits to the test. It's bourbon versus American single malt whiskey In this head-to-head taste-off to see which style wins the day. While both are proudly American, the difference are in the details. Bourbon must be made from at least 50% corn and age a new charred oak containers giving it a sweeter, fuller, fuller body profile. American single malt, by contrast, is made from 100 malted barley distilled at a single distillery and offers more nuanced roasted and grain forward notes. So let's stay tuned to see which one advances from this round. Okay.

Mike Gorday:

I haven't tasted any of that. Yeah, Nathan should probably do the tasting before we talk about it.

Nathan Mumm:

Why is that?

Mike Gorday:

Why is that?

Marc Gregoire:

Well, while he tastes those, let's remind our viewers, Mike, to like and subscribe. Put comments down there. Tell us what you think good or bad. We love to hear from our viewers. Hey, all right, and Nathan, please drink responsibly. Heaven can wait.

Nathan Mumm:

Thank you very much. Well, with our first whiskey tasting completed, now it's time to move on to our feature segment. Today we have Gwen Way joining the show. She's an expert in cybersecurity during the day and a game board geek in the evening, as well as the producer of Tech Time Radio and our Gadgets and Gear gal. Let's get ready to start our Comcast video.

Speaker 1:

What's new in our gadgets and gear.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, welcome back to the show. Gwen, tell a little bit about yourself for any of our new listeners today.

Gwen Way :

Hello, hello everybody. I am Gwen and I have about 25 years worth of technology experience.

Nathan Mumm:

More importantly, though, I have a lifetime of gadget love. You know what. You have saved me money, but not really I'd say that you save me money, but the last three or four gadgets I kept on buying, and I bought two of the hacking device about two. I'm just doubling down now before I do one and now since I do that, that's all right.

Mike Gorday:

That's why that offended him so much.

Marc Gregoire:

I heard about the gadget. I'm actually going to stay on for this segment. I heard about the gadget and I'm very curious and skeptical. Oh, skeptic.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, so now, before we start that, one of the stories did not make it on to the main type of deal, and it's the US offers $10 million for tips on state hackers tied to redline malware. Since you work in this industry and we kind of talked about this with Coinbase what is your take on having, like, the State Department announcing a reward for $10 million regarding cybercrime?

Gwen Way :

Well, it's an interesting thing to do. We've seen it work successfully at this point in business circles, so it's not surprising that the government is giving it a try. I think it's actually a better way to go about things, simply because we're not rewarding the hackers by paying them the ransom okay, okay, I, I that was.

Nathan Mumm:

I think that was kind of mike's idea too yeah, yeah it, yeah.

Mike Gorday:

It's the same as 80s self-defense for women. You know it used to be like just let them do what they need to do, and it worked badly. So now we teach people to fight back. So I think this is you like this idea.

Nathan Mumm:

This is a good idea. It's working.

Mike Gorday:

It doesn't come without its problems, but I think this is a better idea than just saying, oh well, we got hacked, let's pay them off so we can get our stuff back. I agree.

Gwen Way :

Exactly At this point, we're almost pitting the hackers against each other's.

Nathan Mumm:

That's what we're doing Absolutely Now, Gwen. You know it's summertime and nothing's better than making a little sizzle, Of course, in the barbecue area.

Gwen Way :

What do you have to share with us? Today I have what I think is one of the best gifts for Father's Day. Obviously, it won't be available by this year's Father's Day, but next year it should be around. Today's gadget is an AI-powered smart thermometer for cooking.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, so it's an AI smart thermometer for cooking. Now I like to grill. I got a big green egg. I got blackstone.

Mike Gorday:

You got a freaking kitchen out on your back porch.

Nathan Mumm:

I do, and so I love grilling and I have these wireless devices that are Bluetooth that I put in there and it kind of keeps the temperature of what needs to be going and and. But you know, I, I I don't use them very often. I use them for Thanksgiving and I don't use them very often because I like being out there flipping it over, taking a look at what's going on. Now, I make mistakes, clearly. I sometimes overcook something. Sometimes the hamburgers got a little bit of runny stuff in there. I didn't cook it all the way, so I probably need this more than most people. But tell me, what is the AI going to do differently than other devices that are out there on the market?

Gwen Way :

Well, it does a couple of different things differently. The first thing that it does is it does have an application you can have on your phone or tablet, where it will not only help you figure out the best way to cook a dish, but you can actually type in what you have and it will give you recipes.

Nathan Mumm:

So if I have a steak, it'll give me a recipe on how to cook a steak. If I have some chicken, it'll give me a recipe.

Mike Gorday:

I don't want to be the buzzkill here, but I can do that with my phone.

Gwen Way :

Absolutely, you can do that with your phone. But in this case not only do you get the recipe with your phone on the application, but you press a button and the thermometer automatically is set to look for the right temperature based on the cooking method for the food.

Mike Gorday:

You know, that's cool. All I have to do is wait for all this stuff to go, and then I can have Amazon send over a robot and I can give them the meter and then they can cook my burger for me Exactly. That's my whole goal.

Nathan Mumm:

That's your whole goal. Okay, so explain a little bit more about this device. Tell us how many units are where they're coming from.

Gwen Way :

Tell us a little bit about this backer and give us the sales pitch here, sure?

Mike Gorday:

thanks, so this is on kickstarter.

Gwen Way :

You can find it by searching chef lab c-h-e-f-l-a-b.

Nathan Mumm:

It's interesting because it can be used for any cooking method oven, grill, smoker, etc. Microwave, etc. Microwave, I wouldn't necessarily. I don't know about microwave. No, except for Mike's cooking way I'm single Using the hacking tools for hacking.

Gwen Way :

We don't condone microwaving these. But it does have three sensor areas, so it's going to sense the air outside the food and then two different places within the food to help determine the even cooking. It can be used either from the phone application or from the base, which is magnetic, so you can actually set it and connect it to your grill or smoker or oven, whatever.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, how many backers does it have? How much is it? Let's get into some of those details all the good details.

Gwen Way :

So this is out of denver, colorado. Uh, it's sitting at 640 backers at this point, fully funded, but if people are quick you can still get early bird special for 69 each okay, so early bird special is still available for $69.

Nathan Mumm:

That's pretty exciting about that.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, you sound totally excited.

Nathan Mumm:

Mr Gregoire's got some questions here.

Marc Gregoire:

I don't know if I have any questions. I can't understand anybody backing this.

Mike Gorday:

You can't understand anybody Well only 640 people did so that tells you something. We're talking about a country that just loves to barbecue.

Nathan Mumm:

I don't know if Colorado is where I consider the barbecue capital of the world to create this device but they are probably intelligent enough to figure out how to do this.

Mike Gorday:

They have American males that have their eggs out in the back.

Marc Gregoire:

I'll go through it quickly, gwen, because I haven't seen any advantages that you've given me for this over the current ones out there. Okay, so the AI, where it tells you what temperature to do it. Well, every recipe has a temperature in it anyway, so AI is just pulling from that. Most recipes have the wrong one, according to new food science anyway, so you need to adjust it. So AI is going to cook it incorrectly. And then the three sensors most of the new sensors all have that. They have the one on the tip. They sensors most of the new sensors all have that. They have the one on the tip, they have one at the top and they have the one that sticks outside for the outside temperature. My meter has all that.

Nathan Mumm:

How much did your meter cost? Was it $69?

Marc Gregoire:

It was $69 off their website right now. I checked it just before coming on the show. Wow.

Mike Gorday:

And that's one of the top technology ones. That's why you have to have a microwave, and then theirs also has other options.

Marc Gregoire:

If you upgrade you can actually get two, three, four. So if you're doing four steaks, you can buy four in one kit.

Nathan Mumm:

That all goes right back to the end. Hang on, let's go, let's come back to it. You can't buy multiple packs. You can't buy multiple packs.

Marc Gregoire:

Do they all connect?

Nathan Mumm:

together. I don't know if they all connect together, but you do get two sensors, so you could have two sensors in one and two sensors in another for a family and they could have like two magnetic uh strips to hang on to this. I, I do.

Mike Gorday:

We know what ai is pulling from, quinn that I'm not entirely sure I so that so that is, that was my biggest pulling from the chicago.

Nathan Mumm:

Sometimes I mean if it's pulling from grok, I already be like can I get a steak? It's gonna cook it at like 900 degrees, because that's what elon musk thinks is normal some uh stuff you don't want on the top, like mucus or something and then, and then, if you're pulling from gemini, you're gonna have to repeat it at least three times before it understands what you're saying. And then, if it's open, and if it's a deep seek it's not even running anymore, that whole thing with deep seekek is all gone, Okay, so I mean.

Nathan Mumm:

I guess my biggest concern would be what? Ai? This is the first device I think I would really care about where they're pulling the AI from.

Marc Gregoire:

It's probably a cheap thermometer that they say they wrap AI around and try to make some money on. You think so.

Gwen Way :

Which is entirely possible.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, so Mark is not investing into this. I feel like this might not have been the best choice.

Mike Gorday:

Okay, so Mark is not invested into this. I feel like this might not have been the best choice.

Marc Gregoire:

Bah, humbug. It's a say Mark from a mentor of mine.

Mike Gorday:

That's what happens when you don't come to a production meeting.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, there was some other things.

Mike Gorday:

Well, the other ones we reviewed were really weird too. These are fun to discuss. No, it's fine.

Marc Gregoire:

This is the first time I've stayed on really for a whole segment in a while Well, okay time I stayed on really for a whole segment in a while.

Gwen Way :

Well, okay, so it has this, has this company done a kickstarter before.

Mike Gorday:

This is their first kickstarter, uh-huh, so as always, you kind of want to take it with a grain of salt, or, however, for the people who are invite are interested.

Gwen Way :

yes, go to kickstartercom search for chef lab and do it before jth.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, so let me ask you the question Did you invest in it? Yes, next question Are you looking to get a unit?

Gwen Way :

I am not at this time. I have wireless meat thermometers that we use already.

Marc Gregoire:

They do a great job already, right? Yes See, oh, look at that. I want to hear from our listeners If we're wrong, if we're too skeptical. Let I want to hear from our listeners If we're wrong, if we're too skeptical let us know Fight back.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, put it in the chat comment there. Just like whenever I do math wrong, I get pinged about that all the time.

Marc Gregoire:

So definitely make sure. Or you reference a Star Trek episode from a season that doesn't even exist.

Nathan Mumm:

When I say Star Trek, I always mean Next Generation. So, I always go the original series.

Mike Gorday:

All right, gwen, so this is a great gadget. How are you going to say you always reference Next Generation and then go all original series? How is that?

Nathan Mumm:

So when I normally say I reference Star Trek, then it's normally Next Generation, because that's what I grew up in. And then when I say if it's the original series I normally do the original series or Voyager, I say the series that I do, I just consider that's right.

Nathan Mumm:

Alright. Well, this is a great gadget, though I appreciate you having an AI gadget on. I don't know if I would invest in this. I'm not probably, but you know for people that if somebody does and this is like the trend starter I will just tell you I have missed the boat on a couple things. Redbox came on out, had a chance to invest in them for like 10k you can go pick up one of the boxes now they're trying to give them away.

Nathan Mumm:

I was going to say it went up and it was climbing high and my wife said it would never take off. And it took off, but then I probably would have hung on too long, and now they don't exist and you can find them at your local Blockbuster. Alright, well, gwen, thank you so much for talking about our gadgets. We appreciate you so much for joining our show. I can't wait to see what we get next month. Thank you, thanks, gwen, had a good time. All right, we want to thank Gwen for being a part of the show. She does a great job of finding the most unique items each month for our show, and then we go through them on the pre-show and kind of pick out which one we want to talk about, and this is our winner for this month.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, now, though, let's move on to mike's mesmerizing moment. Welcome to mike's mesmerizing moment. What does mike have to say today? All right, here's my question for you robot man, yeah, I can't wait. Would you rather have r2d2, c-3po as your robot at home? Why are you asking this question? So I'm asking this question because, for the psychology of you explaining and breaking down both R2-D2 or C-3PO, if you were going to have a robot, we talked about. Amazon having a robot. We talked about tons of robots. We talked about different robots. I was going to say maybe Rosie from the Jetsons at home if you wanted that, or Tweak.

Speaker 5:

Tweaky, tweaky from Buck Rogers.

Nathan Mumm:

Yes, but we went with R2-D2 and C-3PO. Okay, at your home, which robot would you rather have?

Mike Gorday:

All right, I would definitely go R2-D2. Why is that, though? Because C-3PO is a whiny bitch.

Speaker 5:

Okay, I wanted to interject. Would you go with Chopper or RTD2?

Mike Gorday:

That's a good one too, because. Chopper is more sassy, but RTD2 is also sassy. I mean, I don't know if you know this, but a lot of times when he's talking in his beeps and whistles, he's actually cussing stuff out. So to me that's awesome.

Nathan Mumm:

So you like that? Yeah, okay, thank you, mike for that mesmerizing moment. Next we have this Week in Technology, so now would be a great time to enjoy a little whiskey on the side. There wasn't really any psychology in that.

Marc Gregoire:

Well, you know what Sometimes people just like to understand you. Mike Gorday, who would go with? I think most people do CP3O because of what it brings. Cp3o. Thank you Most people don't go for the cussing little robot that's our psychology of Mike?

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, but if you watch the movies, if you watch the Star Wars stuff you would do.

Nathan Mumm:

Rosie From the Jetsons R2-D2 is the smarter of the two?

Speaker 5:

Isn't she sassy as well?

Nathan Mumm:

She's very sassy, but she cleans up the house very sassy, but she cleans up the house and then she yells at George all the time. So I'd take Rosie. Rosie would be my winner. But you have robots at home. You have a little Aruba.

Mike Gorday:

I have an Aruba, he basically wants a fancy Aruba. That's what R2-D2 is A more fancy Aruba. He also can store a lightsaber too.

Nathan Mumm:

And fly a jet or whatever.

Mike Gorday:

I'm just going to have him fly around my apartment. Pick up your Amazon packages. Pick up my Amazon packages from the C-3PO, that freaking delivers it.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, there you go. All right, mike, thank you for that mesmerizing moment. We're going to take a commercial break. When we return, we will have our this Week in Technology. See you after this, hey, mike.

Mike Gorday:

Yo, what's up hey.

Nathan Mumm:

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Or is it Patreon? I think it's Patreon. Okay, Patreon. If you really like us, you can like us in. Patreoncom. I butcher the English language.

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You know you butcher the English language all the time it's. Patreoncom.

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Speaker 1:

We need you to like us. Like us and subscribe. That's it. That's it. It's that simple. And now let's look back at this week in technology.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, we're going back to June 11th 1978 with the introduction of the speak and spell. You remember the speak and spell, Mike Yep. I remember the speak and spell and it would say the word you would have all these little noises it made. Spell mike, yep. I remember the speaking spell and I would say the word you would play. You could have all these little noises it made.

Mike Gorday:

I I didn't have a sound effect yeah, maybe you should have ran with the sound effects, because your sound effects are as bad as your your accents.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, texas instruments introduces the speak and spell, a talking educational toy for children. The device features the first electronic duplication of the human voice on a single chip of silicon. It transformed digital information process through a filter into synthetic speech and could store more than 100 seconds of sound. Now the speak and spell was created by a small team of engineers led by pauledlove, himself as an engineer with Texas Instrument TI, during the late 1970s. Between his release in 1983, the Speak and Spell was redesigned twice under the name Speak and Spell, with a later expansion including cartridges of different languages that could be plugged into the device. Now that was this week in technology. If you ever wanted to want to watch some Tech Time history, with over 250-plus weekly broadcasts spanning our four-plus years of video, podcast and blog information, visit us online at techtimeradiocom to watch our older shows. We're going to take a commercial break when we return. We have our Mark Mumble Whiskey Review and we have a technology fail that's going to make you cry. All right, see you after this.

Speaker 4:

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Speaker 1:

The segment we've been waiting all week for Mark's Whiskey Mumble.

Marc Gregoire:

I'm giving Odie a break. Everybody's going to be very upset about this. Oh, what do we have here for us? I'm excited. June 10th.

Nathan Mumm:

Let's talk about June 10th today. What is June 10th? Oh, I like today.

Marc Gregoire:

I like today.

Nathan Mumm:

Is today a national whiskey day?

Marc Gregoire:

No, no but kind of close. In that realm. Okay. A national alcohol day? It's a national black cow day. Oh how?

Nathan Mumm:

is black cow anywhere. Okay, black cow anywhere, Okay.

Marc Gregoire:

Black Cow Day. Now let me tell you Okay, you're going to get excited in a minute, all right. Many people also know the black cow as the humble root beer float.

Mike Gorday:

Oh, Well, they just call it root beer float day.

Marc Gregoire:

I like that. Well, let me tell you about that, Mike. Okay.

Speaker 5:

Frank you know you are walking into all of these.

Mike Gorday:

I'm just I'm looking at Mark's profile and I'm thinking he looks like Richard Nixon. So I'm just really distracted right now oh boy, that's good.

Marc Gregoire:

Richard Nixon was considered a. Let's get back to the black cow. Okay, frank J Wisner, hailing from Cripple Creek, colorado, invented the black cow.

Nathan Mumm:

Colorado's the same place. We just had that Kickstarter. Colorado is the same place.

Marc Gregoire:

We just had that Kickstarter. Yeah, While staring out of his window, he saw the full moon shining on the snow-capped Cow Mountain, which made him think of a scoop of vanilla ice cream. That encouraged him to add a spoonful of vanilla ice cream to the children's soda Myers Avenue Red Root Beer. When he took his first sip of the drink, he knew he was onto something great. He named his creation Black Cow Mountain, which was later shortened to Black Cow by Loken Children, and then the rest of the world just calls it a root beer float. Hmm.

Nathan Mumm:

So in Colorado they still have like a black cow event type of like a festival or a fair or something like that I would think they do Okay, I don't know so why,

Speaker 5:

didn't you bring any ice cream for us today, Mark?

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, Mark.

Marc Gregoire:

Yeah, what's that about? I figured we had enough whiskeys today, I mean.

Nathan Mumm:

I have to say, because you know what Odie.

Marc Gregoire:

That brings a good point Now. While many out there are enjoying the root beer float on this beautiful day, we are sipping on four whiskeys here in the studio. Okay. Now here they are. Yes, these are the four whiskeys. We have Stranahan's Blue Peak Single Malt in one of the glasses. That's from Proximo Spirits from Colorado. Also it's American single malt believed to be four years 86 proof, 100% malted barley, and that bottle is about $45 on the market.

Nathan Mumm:

You know what I'm starting to realize when they kind of put the estimated years. I don't like very many estimated year whiskeys. Now I went back and started looking at them, the estimated years. When they say it's seven year, 10 year, they have the date stamp and then it's a little bit stronger. Okay.

Marc Gregoire:

All right. And then in another glass we have Fray Ranch Farm Strength Uncut Bourbon from Fray Ranch Distillery in California. That is a straight bourbon. It's believed to be 4 years old, 123.88 proof. Wow, that's our highest one today. And it is a blend of four grains it's 66.6 dent corn, 10 winter wheat, 11.4 winter rye, 12 two row malted barley. They are very farm to glass type of distillery, okay, and that is 85, that's our most expensive one today. Then we also have Whistlepig Piggyback Bourbon.

Nathan Mumm:

Not a chance, I hate.

Marc Gregoire:

Whistlepig stuff. Those are usually ryes. This is their bourbon offering, which we haven't tried yet. It's from Vermont, it's six years old, stated, it's 100 proof, mash bill's, undisclosed, and it is $57. And then the last one we are sipping on today is a local from Seattle. It is Westland Distillery's flagship single malt. It is three years old, 92 proof, 100% malted barley and that is $62. Whoa, that went down the wrong hole for Nathan.

Nathan Mumm:

I tried that one twice and it's okay, All right, and we did have our local whiskey last week.

Mike Gorday:

That was actually really good.

Nathan Mumm:

Regroup, that was really good. Oh boy, that was bad. Okay, I think I know my selection.

Mike Gorday:

You guys got them in order. I almost do. I have an order so far. I'm still this one's tough.

Marc Gregoire:

Do you want me to reveal now or on the thumbs up? No, do the thumbs up. No, do the thumbs up, we'll do it.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, you know Whiskey and Technology are a great pairing, just like Speak and Spell. Do you realize that it had a pairing also? It had two siblings the Speak and Read and the Speak and Math were all a part of the family of Speak and Spell.

Marc Gregoire:

Oh, you never had one of those, did you?

Nathan Mumm:

No, I had all three. I had all three, maybe the reading, and I had the wizard. He took them apart and got them bricked and I had the little wizard, the little owl wizard for additional.

Marc Gregoire:

Let's say you had them, but did you ever take them out of the box?

Nathan Mumm:

Yes, I took them out of the box. Yes, I used them. I love the speak and spell. The speak and spell was fantastic. I would try to mimic the words that they would pronounce. The weirds, the words that they would pronounce.

Mike Gorday:

I was a young kid, I would mimic the weirds too.

Nathan Mumm:

No, I was a young kid and I was growing up overseas in Africa, and they had the French module that actually helped me learn to speak French. Can you speak French? Je ne comprends pas. Oui, monsieur.

Marc Gregoire:

Oh, that's what I've been.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, all right.

Mike Gorday:

There you go. Now I'm done with my dos cervezos. Oh no, that's the other one.

Nathan Mumm:

All right okay, Now you know what. After that, let's prepare for our technology fail of the week. Congratulations, you're a failure.

Speaker 6:

Oh, I failed. Did I, yes, did I.

Nathan Mumm:

Yes, all right, our technology fail comes to us from GameStop. Has anybody heard of GameStop? We're going to be talking about the Nintendo Switch 2. Now GameStop had people lining up for early hours to get in and to get that Switch 2. Lining outside people were reported to come all the way three to four days before the actual release of the switch to wait in line and to stake their claim to open the store and get their switch itself if they did not pre-order. Now let's just say that you bought from gamestop. Some people reportedly have been unwelcomed with the surprise after picking up their nintendo switch pre-orders at gamestop.

Nathan Mumm:

Staples used to attach the receipts to switch to boxes ended up damaging the screens on the console. So think of having the package here, you have your receipt. There they go, and they get a regular stapler and go chink, chink, chink to put the staples on top so you can pick it up. Well, guess what happened? Those little etched staples went on in and pierced the screens, damaging them. So all the people on these game stop stores that were going to take care of it open the box to find pieces and parts already floating around in their brand new switch. Two boxes now, the tablet's proximity to the top of the box explains how the staples could get through the poked holes in the screen, especially if the person uses a stapler and gives it a solid push down.

Nathan Mumm:

I don't know anybody that would uses a stapler and gives it a solid push down. I don't know anybody that would use a stapler and not push down on the stapler. So when I was reading this report, I was like yeah, that's probably everybody. Now a GameStop spokesperson said that it was investigating the matter and promised to make the customers whole. Now the problem with this is, if you got a Switch 2, the next release of Switch 2s that will come on out isn't for another three to four months of the next batch that will come on out for production. So if you have a brand new Switch 2, you have a chip screen and you want to get it replaced, what do you end up doing? You end up then packaging back your Switch 2 that you just got waiting in lines for and put it in a box so you can then get a pristine.

Mike Gorday:

Switch.

Nathan Mumm:

Bad omens, bad omens To be taken care of Now, gamestop says that it addressed the unique case of staples damaging to the Switch 2 screens. Replacements have been ordered and staplers have been quote unquote compensated.

Mike Gorday:

Confiscated Compensated.

Nathan Mumm:

Confiscated.

Mike Gorday:

All right.

Nathan Mumm:

Confiscated. Now we're going to head out for our last commercial break. When we return, we have our Nathan Nugget and, of course, our pick of the day. So sit back, raise a glass. You're listening to Tech Time Radio with Nathan Mumm.

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Speaker 1:

This is your Nugget of the Week.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, let's get into our nugget. Can ChatGPT take over your Google Drive and Dropbox? Yes, it can. Chatgpt will take over your Google Drive and Dropbox. Yes, it can. Chatgpt users can now use the record mode to take notes on meetings, brainstorming sessions and thinking out loud. Chatgpt can now connect to Google Drive, dropbox Box, sharepoint and OneDrive and users can query it for answers about the stored spreadsheets and documents alike.

Nathan Mumm:

So let's say, for your company you decide to say tell me what the company's revenue in Q1 last year was. Chatgpt will then go through and sort all the data on your repositories and it'll come on back out with information that it has. You can also ask it how many times did I take the ferry on my Italy trip from last year? Now ChatGPT will structure and clearly present the data and respect your organization's existing permissions on the user level from these documents with citations. The recording feature is currently only available for ChatGPT team users, a subscription plan that sets you back about $25 per person per month for their annual subscription of two plus users. The notes and transcripts include timestamp citations and action items Now open.

Nathan Mumm:

Ai now has 3 million paying business users up to from the 2 million in February. So we went from 2 million people in February to 3 million people Now. It doesn't say and I looked, and I looked and I looked is this information stays within the organization or if it gets put into the large language model of chat GPT three. So I looked and I looked is this information stays within the organization or if it gets put into the large language model of ChatGPT3? So I looked and I looked. I couldn't find it either way.

Nathan Mumm:

So, my assumption is that, as everything with ChatGPT, it probably goes to an open AI large language model. So anything that you have of your company in that area probably is being sourced, but I haven't confirmed either way and I haven't queried and looked to see what the information is. When we find that out, I will let you know. Now let's move on to our pick of the day whiskey tasting and now our pick of the day for our whiskey tastings.

Speaker 1:

Let's see what bubbles to the top.

Marc Gregoire:

All right, all right, we're in round six, which is the final round of the AVEN calendar overall of tasting all the whiskeys, uh-oh, all right. So I'm going to go in the correct order for our listeners so they know what they should have picked what we should have picked what they should or should not have picked. And then you can tell me what number it fell in yours. So the worst by far, not even close from my palate, was in the rocks glass. That was the Stranahan's Blue Peak Single Malt.

Mike Gorday:

That one.

Marc Gregoire:

No.

Nathan Mumm:

The rocks glass. This one right here.

Marc Gregoire:

That one right there, your number one. This is the worst.

Speaker 4:

Undrinkable it's, for me it's. It's weak what it's it's, but how?

Mike Gorday:

much it's got. It's got a nice taste, but it's weak. It is 86 proof.

Marc Gregoire:

Okay, now I will say I'm not a single malt person, but in general that one I couldn't.

Mike Gorday:

I couldn't even say I like single malts okay, I liked it, but it wasn't ultimately, wasn't all right. All right, what's the next one up?

Marc Gregoire:

Mark the next one was I did not care for it, but if you poured me one and I wanted to be polite, I could get it down. The whistle pick, I'm sure. Oh, no, you know, what I was. So the first yeah, 19 was the first. No, wait a minute.

Nathan Mumm:

Uh-oh, the worst, that's the water glass.

Speaker 5:

Oh, that's the water glass, so that's this one. That's this one right here. That was mike's last one. Okay, that's the second to last.

Marc Gregoire:

That makes more sense. Sorry, gentlemen, jeez okay I'm just getting back into this thing, I think wow, mia on the one that was single malt, that you know because I'm not a single malt the one that was so. So that was the rocks glass, the strand hand one. So the one I did not, uh, yeah, so the strand hand blue malt was okay. Okay, general week, like mike said, the one I did not care for at all was in the water glass. That was the westland distillery flagship single malt rc.

Mike Gorday:

I got it okay, I got it yeah now, the other two were pretty close.

Marc Gregoire:

They're both bourbons winners, of course, over the single malts, but the one that I would put in second place was the one in the Glencairn.

Speaker 4:

Okay, so that was your last, so you stand true.

Marc Gregoire:

That is Whistle Pig piggyback bourbon. I put it last.

Nathan Mumm:

I thought it was fine. I could smell the Whistle Pig in it. It was single note.

Marc Gregoire:

It tastes like caramel and that's it.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, whoever Whistlepig uses to do their filtration system should be shot.

Marc Gregoire:

And Mike, that was your number one.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, that turned out to be the number one one.

Nathan Mumm:

You're a Whistlepig fan.

Marc Gregoire:

It had a really so if you're just getting into bourbons or whiskey, go with the Whistlepig one. That one was fine with the whistle pig one. That one was fine. Caramel, nothing complex if you want. If you're more of a connoisseur, want something more complex, something with a little bit more spice on it. That one in the beer glass was fray ranch farm strength uncut bourbon at 123.88 proof that had a lot going on with it yeah, I had a lot of trouble.

Mike Gorday:

How was your number two?

Marc Gregoire:

My number two was this. So your number one was my last and your number two was my first. Yes, Very interesting.

Nathan Mumm:

So we didn't choose the same one. No, that's not your last, that's his. This is my last. This is my last right here. This is the whistle. No, that's his last, his last is that one. Isn't this Whistlepig? I got the right one for my last yeah okay, that's what he did, all right, so we did not. Okay, so let's wrap up.

Marc Gregoire:

The longest session ever. Maybe we should have revealed this differently.

Mike Gorday:

That's the Blue Moon, this is the Blue Moon, or whatever it is.

Marc Gregoire:

Okay, so Nathan's number one was in the Rocks class, that was Stranahan's Blue Peak single malt, okay, and Mike's number one was in the Glencairn Whistlepig piggyback bourbon, which was, of course, nathan's last. Yes, unfortunately, between those two, the Whistlepig has to move forward.

Nathan Mumm:

What You're putting the Whistlepig into the playoffs.

Marc Gregoire:

Yes, oh, my word, it should have been you guys both messed up. You guys still aren't connoisseurs. It should have been the fray ranch that reminds me of the LA. Lakers in the NBA playoffs A lot of hope, a lot of dreams, not a lot of talent. Yes, it should have been this one. Mike's number three, nathan's number two.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, all right, all right. Well, you know what?

Speaker 4:

That was the longest segment we've ever done.

Nathan Mumm:

Sorry listeners, that's right.

Speaker 4:

All right.

Nathan Mumm:

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