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266: Learn How to Spot Crowdfunding Scams on Kickstarter! Then, Tech’s Privacy Battles: Google’s $425M Settlement for Tracking Users, Zuckerberg’s Neighborhood Feud, and Disney’s $10M fine | Air Date: 9/9 - 9/15/25

• Nathan Mumm • Season 7 • Episode 266

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Data privacy wars are heating up as tech giants face mounting legal and social consequences for their actions. In this eye-opening episode, we dissect Google's staggering $425 million privacy lawsuit settlement after the company was caught collecting user data even when people explicitly opted out of tracking. The verdict raises crucial questions about what "privacy choices" actually mean in today's digital landscape.

The billionaire bubble gets punctured as we explore Mark Zuckerberg's neighborhood troubles in Silicon Valley. After purchasing 11 properties for a massive $110 million compound, Zuckerberg's construction projects have neighbors up in arms over noise, privacy invasions, and security guards harassing residents on public sidewalks. His solution to noise complaints? Sending neighbors noise-canceling headphones rather than addressing the actual problem – a perfect metaphor for how tech billionaires approach community relations.

Disney joins the privacy violation club with a $10 million settlement for improperly labeling children's videos on YouTube, allowing collection of kids' personal information without parental consent. Despite YouTube manually correcting hundreds of Disney videos and alerting the entertainment giant to the problem, the company continued the practice – demonstrating how even child-focused businesses prioritize data collection over privacy protections.

Our Gadgets and Gear segment takes an educational turn as we analyze a suspicious Kickstarter dash cam project, identifying red flags like stock footage videos, unrealistically low funding goals, and high backer cancellation rates. This practical lesson helps listeners avoid potential crowdfunding scams while still supporting legitimate innovations.

We wrap with a passionate discussion about the commercialization of supposedly "ad-free" premium services like NFL Red Zone, examining how streaming platforms initially hook subscribers with commercial-free promises before gradually introducing advertising. The conversation sparks important questions about value, transparency, and the limits of consumer patience in the subscription economy.

Ready to stay ahead of mainstream tech news while enjoying insightful analysis with a dash of humor? Subscribe to our podcast, follow us on social media @TechTimeRadio, and visit techtimeradio.com to join our community of informed, engaged tech enthusiasts.

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Nathan Mumm:

Welcome to Tech Time with Nathan Mumm the show that makes you go hmm. Technology news of the week the show for the everyday person talking about technology, broadcasting across the nation with insightful segments on subjects weeks ahead of the mainstream media. We welcome our radio audience of 35 million listeners to an hour of insightful technology news. I'm Nathan Mumm, your host and technologist, with over 30 years of technology expertise. Our co-host, microday, is in studio today. Mike's an award-winning author and a human behavior expert. And our AI. What do I want to call you? Ai positive man right.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, let's call us that. Okay, we're live streaming. You're on our show. This is opposite day.

Nathan Mumm:

We're live streaming on our show on four of the most popular platforms, including YouTube, twitch TV, facebook and LinkedIn. We encourage you to visit us online at techtimeradiocom and become a Patreon supporter at patreoncom. Forward slash techtimeradio. Now, we're friends from different backgrounds, but we bring the best technology show possible weekly for our family, friends and fans to enjoy. We're glad to have ODR producer at the control panel today. Welcome everyone.

Speaker 1:

Let's start today's show.

Nathan Mumm:

Now on today's show. All right, today on the show, we have Gwen way back with our gadgets and gear segment. We got Mark Zuckerberg, disney and Duolingo all in hot water, and more. In addition to that, we have our standard features, including Mike's mesmerizing moment, our technology fail of the week and a possible Nathan Nugget More of a rant, and, of course, our pick of the day whiskey tasting to see if our selected whiskey pick gets zero, one or two thumbs up by the end of the show. Now, though, it's time for the latest headlines in the world of technology.

Speaker 1:

Here are our top technology stories of the week.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, google's told to pay $425 million in a privacy lawsuit. Let's go to Lisa Walker for more on this story.

Speaker 5:

A US federal court has told Google to pay $425 million for breaching users' privacy by collecting data from millions of users even after they had turned off a tracking feature in their Google accounts. The verdict comes after a group of users brought the case, claiming Google accessed users' mobile devices to collect, save and use their data in violation of privacy assurances in its web and app activity setting. A Google spokesperson said in response this decision misunderstands how our products work and we will appeal it. Our privacy tools give people control over their data, and when they turn off personalization, do they honor that choice?

Nathan Mumm:

Well, the jury seems to have a different opinion. The jury in the case found the Internet search giant liable on two of the three claims of privacy violation, but said that the firm had not acted with malice. Now the attorneys that sued are obviously very pleased with the verdict. They said In the return. David Boies, an attorney for the users that sued against them, said in the class action lawsuit them said in the class action lawsuit Google's collection practices extend to hundreds of thousands of smartphone apps, including those for ride hailing, companies like Uber and Lyft, e-commerce giants like Alibaba, amazon and Meta, social networks, instagram and Facebook.

Nathan Mumm:

Now Google says that when users turn off web and app activity on their accounts. Now Google says that when users turn off web and app activity on their accounts, businesses using the Google Analytics may still collect data about their use of sites and apps, but that this information does not identify individual users and respects their privacy choices. So let's talk about that, mike not collecting individual user data. But that is still collecting the data, even though so I as a user has gone in to the settings for the web activity and I said I do not want to be tracked. But if I use uber, lyft, alabama, amazon or any of the other meta facebooks. Google says that it's still going to track me. It's just not going to put the my username and my password or my information on what's going on. So let's do a profile of a man over 50, blah, blah, blah, blah blah, but won't actually track my information. That's still collecting the data, though, isn't that? I mean? I said I don't want them to collect it. They're collecting it, sure, why not?

Nathan Mumm:

right so so should google be able to do that? I mean that's kind of like circumventing. I mean that's clearly why they lost the lawsuit right $425 million they lose, so that can't be that they're actually doing anything.

Mike Gorday:

It's funny when you come down on one side of an argument, then like two weeks later you're on the other side of that argument.

Ody:

Well, this is Wait. When was he opposing for user not having privacy?

Mike Gorday:

This is just part of this greater conversation about how he's okay with China stealing our data. Well, that's.

Gwen Way:

China.

Mike Gorday:

And then he's yelling at Google for stealing our data.

Nathan Mumm:

TikTok says they're stealing your data.

Mike Gorday:

Tiktok never hides it, oh as long as they're being honest about it.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, I missed that part. Okay, so if I opt out In TikTok, I have no way to opt out from them tracking me. If I use TikTok, they're tracking me we have known this forever, though. Okay, we have, and we've talked about this for six plus years.

Mike Gorday:

The fact that they're finally getting busted for it. That shouldn't be a surprise $425 million.

Nathan Mumm:

Now, who of that money? I'm not seeing any of that money. Do I have to do a class action?

Mike Gorday:

lawsuit against them too.

Nathan Mumm:

If, if you did a class action lawsuit for google and they won, you would get two bucks and I've signed up for a couple of these class action stuff and then you know what happens is when you actually get paid from the class action, then I lose all ability to then sue them at any later time.

Speaker 7:

So actually for, like the two, the $2 you get back, then they actually get saved.

Mike Gorday:

It really is $425 million, really that much for Google to pay out.

Nathan Mumm:

I don't know, and I don't know if they ever, really ever, pay out these fines. There's no way you can stay in business with all these fines, billions and billions of dollars of fines that get paid off.

Mike Gorday:

Well, I might disagree with you on that. But hey, We'll talk about that later.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, sounds good. Well, guess what? Google's also very happy because, separately this week, google shares rose by more than 9% on Wednesday of last week after the US federal judge ruled that it will not have to sell its Chrome web browser, but must share information with competitors. Yeah, tell me how easy that's going to be. So Google gets to keep Chrome, and now their penalty is that they have to share the users with the competitors. If I call up when I'm the brave browser and I say, hey, I want to grab your data, you think that Google is going to give that data away? It's going to be the easiest thing in the world.

Speaker 7:

That is going to be like a lawsuit.

Nathan Mumm:

That's going to be well, hang on. We're going to transfer you over to customer support agent 27. And then 27 will be like. You know what?

Nathan Mumm:

I don't have the ability to do that yeah so the next manager, that manager will be out on paternity leave and then that person won't get back to you for six months. And then, when they get back to you six months, it'll be oh, that person's no longer here. Now that this person came back, I'm now taking over the account and I need to do a whole review. Oh my gosh, oh my goodness all right, right, today's decision.

Mike Gorday:

Today is Nathan grumpy day, nathan's grumpy and Mike is less grumpy.

Nathan Mumm:

Nathan is going to go all the way to the Nathan nugget. We'll see if we make it all the way there. I am grumpy. All right, you know what, mike. Turn our grumpiness around with story number two.

Mike Gorday:

I don't know how this is going to turn it around, but I don't know how this is going to turn it around. But hey, you know, mark Zuckerberg's back in the news and we love it when Mark is in the news. He's our favorite person.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, we have an Elon Musk. Actually, we have so many favorites.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, we love them all. Bezos Okay, this is just one more activity of the billionaire boys club here. Okay, so why isn't Zuckerberg in the news? Well, this is coming out of Crescent Park in Silicon Valley's Palo Alto, which is considered a once quiet neighborly enclave.

Mike Gorday:

Oh, no, okay I don't know why rich people think this way, but hey, mark is snatching up properties and engaging in massive disruptive construction projects, which the folks of the neighborhood are claiming he's just finding loopholes around local zoning laws and ordinances. Uh, it doesn't surprise me. He is purchased 11 properties in this neighborhood in order to amass the land necessary for a massive compound. Oh boy, paying out at least 110 million in the process you know what?

Nathan Mumm:

I worked for a uh, a billionaire that did exactly this in mercer island in washington.

Mike Gorday:

So this is very this is just I know how this is a billionaire thing yep, well, in order, in order to do all this, he is engaged in massive, disrupt, disrupting construction projects, which is really bothering his neighbors, okay, as a result of all this stuff. Oh, and also, yeah, he has security cameras pointed at their properties, okay, and security guards that harass them while they're walking on public walkways.

Nathan Mumm:

What they can't do, that they can't harass them while they're walking on public walkways. What they can't do? That they can't harass them on public areas.

Mike Gorday:

Well, Peter Balte, a local resident who sat on the city's review board, said members of Zuckerberg's security force confronted him while he was reviewing a potential project site from a public space. According to Balte, a security guard questioned him while he was standing on the sidewalk and he said hey, I'm standing on the sidewalk looking at this project. And they told him hey, we'd appreciate it if you could move on, okay.

Nathan Mumm:

And he said well, this is a public sidewalk, yep you can't shut public sidewalks down.

Mike Gorday:

Well, a spokesperson for zuckerberg assured the times that the multi-billionaire cares about his neighbors and has remained in compliance with local rules and regulations. The facts suggest otherwise. Okay, and top it off. This is what I love here, to top it off in response to all his neighbors complaints about the noise and everything. Guess what he did. What did he do?

Nathan Mumm:

he gave them a bunch of money nope, he gave them all noise-canceling headphones. Are you kidding me? Yeah so he's causing a problem and his solution is when people are saying it's too loud. He wants his neighbors now to walk around with headphones on all the time that are noise-canceling.

Mike Gorday:

That's what he did. He's a very generous guy.

Nathan Mumm:

Mark, were they some knockoff version of noise canceling? I have no idea I don't know.

Mike Gorday:

It doesn't say what that is.

Nathan Mumm:

You know these billionaires when they build these complexes. This is just crazy. I did work for an individual, one of the co-founders of Microsoft. He's since passed away.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, you can say his name Paul Allen.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, you can say that. Okay. So I worked with him in his whole compound. He purchased many houses and so you would enter in at a certain uh, top of the hill, and then he would have to go all the way around. It was kind of like a um, what do you want to say? A maze of roads that all interconnected all the houses together until you got to the big mansion, and then you would kind of loop around and go back out yeah, you know, you know what I want to see.

Mike Gorday:

I want to see a movie of the guy that's the holdout. He's got the, he's got the one property in the middle of all these other properties. Well, there was there won't sell it.

Nathan Mumm:

So guess what happens most of the time? These billionaires will go to the city and ask for eminent domain and they'll pay the people off to say that they need to do that. I have seen that firsthand, where somebody will have a house and they're not willing to sell it, and what will happen is the city will intervene and come on in and say, hey, we really need you to do this, here's what we're going to do, here's your assessed value. And then normally the billionaire says well, this is the assessed value, I'll pay you a little bit more and and boom, it gets happened.

Mike Gorday:

All right, well, well, that's, that's what Mark's up to today, all right.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, let me just tell you what Disney is up to. Well, disney has to pay $10 million to settle claims it collected data on YouTube about kids. Kids that should not be. It's all about data collection. Disney will pay $10 million to settle claims by the US Federal Trade Commission that it mislabeled videos for children on youtube, which allowed the collection of kids personal information without their consent or notification to their parents. This occurred after the entertainment giant failed to tag kid directed videos on youtube as made for kids. This is the easiest. We post youtube videos all the time. There is no way. If you're posting a youtube video that you do not understand what the made for kids label is, it comes on out with instructions that you have to click away from to make sure that you're not doing this. So that this is not a simple yeah, but what if?

Mike Gorday:

what are the chances that this is? This was some intern doing?

Nathan Mumm:

no, no, there's no way. No, no, no. So hang on, it gets even worse, so okay this is stealing the kids information, data collection, and it's required. Since 2019, youtube has had the tag for videos made for kids mfk, when google and youtube paid 100 fml that's right.

Nathan Mumm:

when google and youtube paid 170 million million to settle claims that they violated this, which required websites, online services and apps to notify parents and obtain parent consent before collecting personal information from children under 13, they sent out a massive email to every one of their providers. However, according to the complaint, disney has marked all videos uploaded on YouTube as MFK at the channel's level, which has led to each video being incorrectly tagged as not made for children. So, instead of doing made for children, they tagged each one of them incorrectly. Disney also failed to correctively designate child-focused content, despite YouTube. Youtube went in and alerted the entertainment child uh giant that it has switched labels in 2020 for over 300 disney videos and they changed them, for they're not made for kids to made for kid, including some with music and visual content for the incredibles, coco toy story, frozen and mic Mouse. So YouTube went through and manually changed 300 of them and then continuously sent emails to Disney saying, hey, knock it off, do it the correct way.

Mike Gorday:

Okay, if you're Disney, are you really going to have YouTube tell you what to do? Well, like.

Speaker 7:

YouTube no, because it'd be like hey Disney.

Mike Gorday:

No, because Disney you need to do something. This way, disney's like hey, we own everything, no, disney received.

Nathan Mumm:

A portion of the revenues that YouTube generates from the advertising is placed by Disney videos and revenues from advertising that Disney sells directly, so Disney profited off this. So what YouTube should do is go back and take that money. Youtube shouldn't be paying them out money if they're incorrectly labeling them. Yeah, you know what we?

Mike Gorday:

should just all do. What's that? We should just all just give out our information to everybody. Okay, and then shut up.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, we do that. We do that with our transunion breaches. It's already out there.

Mike Gorday:

I don't know why I don't know why we keep whining about it, because it's already out there and you know everybody's upset about disney doing this and youtube doing that and google and blah, blah blah. Why don't we just just either stop using the internet, okay, or just stop?

Nathan Mumm:

complaining about it. Okay, in the In the settlement it says that required Disney to notify parents before collecting kids personal information and to implement a new program designed to ensure the videos posted on YouTube are designated as made for kids. Okay, how do you do that? I don't know. So clearly they can't follow the directions of just hitting a checkbox. It is literally a checkbox on how you post videos. They can't do that. But now, as a penalty, they're going to need to come up with a way to notify parents that if, when you click on a YouTube, if somebody is under the age watching it, so now they're going to have to have access to your camera to see how old the person is that's watching your YouTube videos, to then say, oops, you shouldn't be watching. Okay, grumpy Nathan.

Mike Gorday:

Put your soapbox away, let's move on.

Nathan Mumm:

That ends our top technology stories of the week. Moving on, I'm sure we'll have some great gadgets and gear coming on up here from Gwen Way. She's going to be joining us in our next segment, so buckle up as we drive 88 miles per hour into our next segment after this commercial break.

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Nathan Mumm:

Hurry up, mark. Welcome back to Tech Time with Nathan Mumm. Our weekly show covers the top technology subjects without any political agenda. We verify the facts, we do it with a sense of humor, in less than 60 minutes and, of course, with a little whiskey on the side. Today, mark Gregoire, whiskey Connoisseurs and Studio Wow. It's been like seven and a half months since.

Marc Gregoire:

I've seen you. How are you doing, at least for today?

Nathan Mumm:

I'm sure you're going to make a commitment to be on the show for the next six weeks in a row, right, no?

Marc Gregoire:

Okay, I have a life. Okay, well, I'm glad you're here today. He's secretly Mark Zuckerberg.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, that's right. He wouldn't be secret about that. I think he'd just be like yeah. I'm building a big house.

Marc Gregoire:

All right Mark, yes, what have you chosen for us today? Well, today is the 2024 Flavor Advent Calendar. Okay, we are doing 24 remarkable whiskeys used for our year-long blind whiskey competition to see which one Nathan and Mike like best. So come along for the ride once every month while they uncover new tastes and train their senses to become true connoisseurs. Of course, listen to the show. The last few weeks, I'm still not sure on Nathan.

Mike Gorday:

Now, I think that's relatively obvious. What do you mean? What do you mean I?

Nathan Mumm:

think I've been pretty fair, remus.

Marc Gregoire:

I didn't like that at all. I did not like that I have to like everything that you sent to us everything good, okay, well.

Marc Gregoire:

Well, today is the third, yeah and final battle in round two, where you will choose your winner to move on to the next round, which will be the semis, if you disagree on the deciding vote now. Today's blind battle is a clash of opposites. Uh-oh, that actually shares some surprising ground. On one side we have a younger, wine-barrel age world traveler with a softer proof, bringing bright notes and a fresh take on tradition. On the other, a bolder, older American classic with higher proof, leaning into rich depth and spice. One's hails from far overseas, the other from our own backyard. Different styles, different ages, but both aiming to prove they can punch above their weight in the glass. So stay tuned to see which one wins out and advances from this round to the semis. Okay Well.

Nathan Mumm:

I know that Mike and I already had a little bit of a different opinions to start out. So we don't want mark choosing, do we? Because he always chooses what you do.

Mike Gorday:

So I gotta convince you oh okay, yeah, let's, let's do it. Let's do it like that, so he can choose what you do, that's right, okay, wow, thank you mark.

Marc Gregoire:

Don't forget to like and subscribe, add those comments in there and forever drink responsibly.

Nathan Mumm:

Heaven can wait, that's perfect all you know, I got a new tagline tonight. I'm excited.

Speaker 2:

Science of tomorrow starts with the knowledge of today.

Nathan Mumm:

Alright, with our whiskey tasting completed, let's move on to our feature segment. Today we have Gwen Way joining the show. She's an expert in cyber security during the day and a game board geek in the evening, as well as producer of Tech Time Radio and, of course, our Gadgets and Gear Gal. Let's get ready to start our Comcast video stream to start this next segment what's new in our Gadgets and Gear All right, welcome back to the show, gwen.

Gwen Way:

Tell us a little bit about yourself for new listeners. Well, with over a quarter of a century in technology experience, uh, I've seen everything from windows 98 all the way up through 11.

Nathan Mumm:

So here we go, here we go, okay, well, glad to have you a part of our group. You know, gwen I think I was looking back so we've known each other for like 10 plus years, 12 plus years, I mean it's there abouts yeah, it's good, it's been a while. It's been a while. That's fantastic. You know what. Nothing's better than knowing gwen. It makes me so excited. You know what? I'll tell you. I was at her wedding and of all the weddings I've ever attended in my life, her wedding was the best you.

Speaker 7:

You got like it was. She did it at a zoo, we know this story like 80, 80, 80 times you've heard this haven't you.

Nathan Mumm:

It is not changing opinion. It was the best wedding that I've ever been to. Alright, Gwen, let's talk about it.

Mike Gorday:

I hope your children don't hear this.

Nathan Mumm:

I already told them. I told them both, I told them both right in front of them. Okay.

Speaker 7:

I said that they both at their weddings.

Nathan Mumm:

Yes, yeah, your wedding sucks, your wedding sucks.

Gwen Way:

This was cool and all, but let me talk for a minute.

Mike Gorday:

You should have done like Gwen did and had it at a zoo, All right.

Gwen Way:

Gwen, tell us a little bit about your project. Well, this is going to be an interesting one for this month. It is a dash cam, which makes a certain amount of sense as we go back to school and have older children driving. We want to keep an eye on them, don't we?

Nathan Mumm:

We sure do, absolutely. I do have a dash cam in my car right now, so I got to see if this is one that will make me change what's that Never?

Mike Gorday:

mind. What's the matter? I was under the impression that Washington doesn't let you use dash cams.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, I don't think you're supposed to.

Ody:

No, that's not what it was at all, if you were paying attention.

Mike Gorday:

I'm too poor to pay attention. What are you talking about?

Ody:

If it's blocking your field of sight.

Nathan Mumm:

Thank you, thank you, thank you, odie, so it has to be not huge.

Ody:

Yes, exactly.

Mike Gorday:

It can't be blocking, I can't have a huge video cam.

Nathan Mumm:

No, you can't have a huge video cam. Okay, well's great about this. I'm sure it's probably infrared and everything else.

Gwen Way:

Tell us it is in fact, so. This dash cam is on kickstarter, uh, the name of the project is this track vis for vision t-r-a-k. Uh, and it is touting itself as the smallest four-channel dash cam with night vision. So basically, what this does, is it not only records in 2K in front of you, it's got 180p on both sides and the rear and includes a night cam so that you can keep track of everything at night.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, all right, so it's the VizTrack. Keep track of everything at night? Okay, all right, so it's the VizTrack. Now what are the features of it that make it better than a standard dash cam? Because I have a standard dash cam. What features on here make this so much different than the other dash cams?

Gwen Way:

Well, there are a couple of different things.

Nathan Mumm:

It's got a cool name. It does have a cool name, it does have a cool name.

Gwen Way:

It's also smaller than most dash cams so you get around the whole. It's too big for Washington state. It's got the four channels all built in, including the night vision. The side cameras actually will rotate so you're able to see the entire 180 degrees on both sides and you can loop recordings if you need to. Those are all pretty big things. You also have a wifi control so you can set it up when you get home.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, well, tell me the stats of this. Tell me how many backers, where the company's located, how many pledges and the unit cost.

Gwen Way:

Yep, so it is out of Santa Clara, california. There are currently 484 backers with about a week to go and they have brought in $46,000 at this point.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, so now we talked about this a little bit at the production meeting and I've done some research on this company. Now, many things on Kickstarter you need to be careful of right, so you got to be careful of things on kickstarter. I'm not feeling very comfortable with this item as backing, so I've been fooled before on kickstarter and this has me a bit concerned. How many times probably three or four times that I've actually found Three or four.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, Sounds like it's been like well you know what, maybe overall it's been maybe 10 throughout the whole time of my type of deal.

Ody:

Only 10?.

Nathan Mumm:

So yeah, and sometimes I can get it back.

Mike Gorday:

Sometimes I can get it back by the credit card company.

Nathan Mumm:

He just wants to look good. No, no, no, no, no, no. So let me ask you that. So, so here's my first thing I'm looking at it and the red flags start picking up, so I watched the video. Right, the video that's on there and the video is has some stock image footage in it, so I I don't like stock footage. When I see in there, I see people walking around and I see big aerial shots of a city, and those are all free video clips that you can grab on the internet roll. Yeah, so it's b-roll, that is like high-end b-roll, so that's my first thing is that almost the entire video is b-roll it is, so it all looks b-roll.

Nathan Mumm:

I see just the device on there a couple times and and the device that I see is is kind of a little bit of a blurry version of this the, the close-up version that they have, like the still shot of this, looks like it's been imposed with a much nicer device than the one I see. My next thing that goes up for the flags is that it only needed a thousand dollars as a goal. So so kickstarters, normally when you do this so the visit track, if this is a brand new camera you're telling me that as soon as $1,000 is raised, you're willing to build this type of device. So that scares me immensely, because normally the pledge goals are $5,000. At least that I get $10,000.

Speaker 2:

It's a hustle.

Nathan Mumm:

So this gives me a little bit of concern. And then Gwen help me out. Here I go and I take a look at the comments, right? So there's 22 comments on here, and when I look at it I see the creator responding, and then what I see is this person has canceled their pledge. Then I see a question in there and I says this person has canceled their pledge. And then I go on in here and says this person has canceled his pledge. I'm scrolling through on the main site right now, just scrolling down actively, and I see at least 10 people that at one time had pledged money for this project that have pulled it back. Because what can happen before the item closes? What are you allowed to do as a Kickstarter? Tell everybody.

Gwen Way:

You're able to actually back out your pledge and cancel it, but you cannot do that officially after it's completed.

Nathan Mumm:

So now I've seen all these people that are deserting the pledge numbers. I don't know if the pledge numbers go down or up after they've pledged the money and they cancel. I don't know that system of how it works. I actually spent a lot of time trying to find that out through an ai search and through, just uh, viewing the terms and conditions with kickstarter, and it doesn't say what happens with that. So, um, it makes me have some concern about that. Also, the faq is is not? Um, it looks like. Is it difficult to install it? It talks about this back camera, which is a cable.

Mike Gorday:

Or maybe I should be wearing my don't click on stuff hat.

Gwen Way:

That is absolutely the hat you should be wearing. Should I be comfortable?

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, should I be comfortable with this device or should I have some warning flags? Tell us, what should I be doing when I look at all this stuff?

Gwen Way:

Personally, I think that this particular product is full of warning flags. Everybody should be taking note of the things that Nathan has mentioned, because these are good things to keep an eye on. If you're just kind of wandering around Kickstarter looking at different products, you want to make sure that you don't see a lot of this. Creator has canceled their pledge in the comments. You want to make sure that when they're actually giving you a video, it's a video of the product as it appears in the Kickstarter and is not mostly B-roll. So everybody who's actually making these products, what they generally will do is make one or two proof of concepts, and those proof of concept pieces are what they use in the videos so that you could actually see what the project is going to end up looking like and what it's going to do. Obviously, there are some tweaks that go on during the manufacturing process but it should be fairly similar between plan and video.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, so this is actually an educational piece for everybody that's listening. So this Kickstarter project is called what again, gwen?

Gwen Way:

It's called Vistrak V-I-S-T-R-A-K.

Mike Gorday:

Otherwise don't get this one.

Gwen Way:

Exactly. I fully support everybody actually going to Kickstarter though, taking a look at it and kind of seeing some of the warning signs that we touched on today, just to educate yourself going forward, so that you can pick the best and brightest projects that you want to purchase.

Nathan Mumm:

All right. So we always ask this question Are you going to be getting a unit? I am not, definitely not, and I don't think I will be either. All right, gwen, thank you so much. Tell everybody a little bit about how they can connect with you if they want to submit a gadget to you. Where would they go and say, hey, gwen, I found this great gadget. How can they submit that to you?

Gwen Way:

Best place to do that is actually on Mr Zuckerberg's Facebook, since we were talking about him earlier. You can go there and find the Tech Time group and send me a message there.

Nathan Mumm:

Perfect, gwen. Thank you so much. What did you think of that?

Mike Gorday:

Mike, what About the thing?

Nathan Mumm:

or the. Zuckerberg thing About the Zuckerberg thing About this unit. Would you like one of these units?

Mike Gorday:

No, I don't have one in my.

Nathan Mumm:

I don't have one.

Mike Gorday:

I don't want one, I don't need one.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay. Well, we thank Gwen so much for being a part of the show. She does a great job of finding the most unique items each month. For our show. This item was really unique and a great concept, but we actually spent the time to show you warning signs of what to stay away from. Maybe I should get one for my motorcycle oh, there you go.

Nathan Mumm:

All right. Now let's move on to mike's mesmerizing moment. Welcome to mike's mesmerizing moment. What does mike have to say today? All right, grumpy nathan says mike, why do we have so many companies paying out lawsuits? Is it the nature for humans to sue all the time now?

Mike Gorday:

wow, that's a. That's a really complicated question. Well, yes, yes, okay okay, uh, if you have not lived under a rock here in america. Uh, lawsuits are crazy. That's a whole industry in and of itself. Okay, we have been doing it since the mcdonald's thing the hot coffee the hot coffee at mcdonald's, okay. Secondly, why are they paying out fines? Well, they have to. It's it's, it's part of a legal judgment, but there's probably a little bit of an additional thing here, because you would think that it would teach them to be better yeah but actually you know the fines don't amount to much in the greater pot that they're pulling from.

Mike Gorday:

So would you rather if you were an owner of this big business, right, and you were making oodles of money, but you were doing things wrong and people took you to court and you had to pay a fine? That is much less than what you would have to do to actually change your business strategy. What would you do?

Nathan Mumm:

I guess you'd pay the fine, wouldn't you? This goes all the way back to the car manufacturing, when they had that blinker issue in Ford and stuff like that. Remember, they knew that this blinker issue could cause an issue and they said, well, just wait and pay the fines, because it's much easier than repairing it.

Mike Gorday:

It's much easier to pay the fines than to repair the problem. So, um, yeah, I think that's pretty, pretty well known. Okay, so there you go. All right, we, we, we just like to sue people we like to sue people.

Nathan Mumm:

All right.

Mike Gorday:

I'm going to go down and sue somebody randomly later on today, okay.

Ody:

We know that that is pretty standard for the US. Do we think that that also applies to the EU and other countries around the world?

Mike Gorday:

I don't know. That's a good question. It depends on how they monitor and manage their government and uh business not italy.

Ody:

They'll just off you in the middle of the corner if you start complaining right for example, privacy laws are so much more strict over in the eu especially uh gdp.

Nathan Mumm:

So do you think that they?

Ody:

could get away with like oh, here's just a couple chum change for you guys.

Mike Gorday:

I think they might, because, as the globalization of capitalism continues, we'll see a lot more of this stuff going on in other countries, especially as they move towards a society that's built off of this.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, all right, let's move on. Move on, mike. Thank you so much yeah, for your you sound really you sound really mesmerized.

Mike Gorday:

Are you excited? You know what?

Ody:

I was mesmerized mike, even though I knew that americans are too happy.

Mike Gorday:

You've only been up for a couple of hours, so wow, all right, thank you for her.

Nathan Mumm:

Your mesmerizing moment. Up next we have this week in technology, so now would be a great time to enjoy. He's making fun of your sleeping habits. A little whiskey on the side, as we'll be doing so during the break. You're listening to tech time radio with nathan. Mum see in a few minutes. Hey, mike, yeah, what's?

Speaker 7:

up, hey. So you know what. We need people to start liking our uh social media pages, if you like our show.

Mike Gorday:

If you really like us, we could use your support on Patreoncom, or is it Patreon?

Speaker 7:

I think it's Patreon. Okay, patreon, if you really like us, you can like us in. Patreoncom. I butcher the English language. You know, you butcher the English language all the time it's. Patreoncom.

Mike Gorday:

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Speaker 7:

If you really like our show, you can subscribe to Patreoncom and help us out, and you can visit us on that Facebook platform. You know the one that Zuckerberg owns, the one that we always bag on. Yeah, we're on Facebook too. Yeah, like us on Facebook. Do you know what our Facebook page is? Tech Time Radio. At Tech Time Radio, you know what? There's a trend here.

Mike Gorday:

It seems to be that there's a trend, and that's Tech Time Radio.

Speaker 7:

Or you can even Instagram with us, and that's at Tech Time Radio. That's at Tech Time Radio. Or you can find us on TikTok, and it's Tech Time Radio. It's at Tech Time Radio. Like and subscribe to our social media Like us today, we need you to like us. Like us and subscribe. That's it. That's it. That's that simple.

Speaker 1:

And now let's look back at this week in technology.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, we're going back to September 14th 1956. The IBM 350 disk storage unit model one was released. Now the IBM 350 disk storage unit was announced, which was the first commercial storage unit to use a magnetic disk for storage. The technology behind the hard drive was established because of the 350 disk storage unit. About the size of two refrigerators and weighing in at one ton, the 350 could be stored for about four to five megabytes of data at a time, depending on how it was calculated. Now the 350 would be an integral part of the ibm ram mac 305 computer which would be introduced nine days later on september 13th. The ram mac 305 and the 350 disk storage unit were designed to replace the punch card tube file system that was the primary means of storing repetitive access data previously.

Nathan Mumm:

Now that was this week in technology. If you ever wanted to watch some tech time history of over 260 plus weekly broadcasts spanning our four plus years on video, podcast and blog information, you can visit us at techtimeradiocom to watch our older shows. We're going to take a commercial break. When we return we have the Mark Mubble Whiskey Review. See you after this.

Mike Gorday:

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Speaker 1:

Print copies available on amazon the book pository and more more the segment we've been waiting all week for mark's whiskey mumble mark keeps bashing my chair, oh I just keep.

Marc Gregoire:

I'm just so excited to be here oh we're excited to see you he's missed you. I guess. So celebrating today, september 9th. What a day, yes, national. What? When pigs can fly day.

Nathan Mumm:

Oh, you know what? No, what do I know? I think you've had this on before. No, I looked it up, are you sure?

Marc Gregoire:

I thought so too.

Nathan Mumm:

We had a flying cow before oh it was a flying cow, not flying pig.

Marc Gregoire:

We love our national days of flying animals. Okay, or tell me more Now. This is a once a year reminder that the impossible actually does happen. Some call it hope, others call it a miracle. We call it a Tuesday at Tech Time Radio, because if pigs can fly, then you better believe. Your gadgets can crash, your whiskey glass can refill itself and Nathan and Mike might finally agree and be right about something.

Nathan Mumm:

Oh wow, I don't know about that. Still, I just felt a backhanded compliment. You're right about something.

Marc Gregoire:

Okay Now, since it's National when Pigs Can Fly Day, and honestly, pigs flying.

Nathan Mumm:

Who created?

Marc Gregoire:

this holiday.

Mike Gorday:

Shouldn't it be National Impossible Day or National Pigs Can Fly Day? Who's the?

Nathan Mumm:

guy that writes in and says we're going to create this day national.

Ody:

If you would let Mark finish he'll give you the history.

Marc Gregoire:

I do not do the history.

Ody:

You know what it is.

Mike Gorday:

That's the guy where they're coming up with days to talk about. He's the one that they're coming up with days to talk about. He's the one that's in the corner going yeah, when pigs fly, that'll happen. And then they all say that.

Marc Gregoire:

And then they go hey, we need to make a day out of that. Okay, all right, I do believe it's a recent national holiday.

Nathan Mumm:

It's a recent one. Okay, now Did the Trump administration put it in? No, everybody laughed at that.

Marc Gregoire:

Now, with National Pigs Can Fly Day, honestly honestly, nathan, pigs flying might make more sense than these bottles going head to head. Okay, on one side, straight out of Australia, we have Starward Nova, the young world traveler, strutting in a wine barrel. Actually, I have a bottle of that on my deal, okay. In the other corner from Vermont, the Big Boulder Bruiser Nathan's favorite Whistle Pig, piggyback bourbon oh, I hate Whistle Pig.

Nathan Mumm:

You do.

Marc Gregoire:

I hate Whistle Pig and you like both of these.

Nathan Mumm:

And I liked both of these. I'm not a big Whistle Pig fan, so I hope that it's not.

Mike Gorday:

Whistle Pig, I guess the blind taste test doesn't work on you real well.

Nathan Mumm:

No, there's one here that I finished. I was very happy to finish and there's one here that I'm struggling with. This is the third time you think so.

Marc Gregoire:

No, this is the second time we've done Whistlepig. You hated it last time and I picked it with Mike.

Nathan Mumm:

You did.

Mike Gorday:

That's the Whistlepig you're liking right there.

Nathan Mumm:

That's exactly why that's there. That's exactly why that's there.

Marc Gregoire:

So let's remind the viewers about these two the Starward Nova, single Malt. It's from New World Distillery in Australia. It's aged three years, 82 proof, 100% malted barley, but aged in wine barrels $40. The Whistlepig Piggyback Bourbon is from Vermont. It's six years, 100 proof, mash bill is undisclosed and it's $57.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, so you're liking the Whistlepig huh, you think I don't know, I don't know, I don't think it's the Whistlepig that I like.

Mike Gorday:

Yes it's the Whistlepig. You think so. Yes, I don't know. All right, yes, because I can taste the wine in the other one.

Nathan Mumm:

You can taste the wine in the other one. This one has wine in it, yeah it was aged in wine barrels, dude oh.

Marc Gregoire:

I'm going to say this is a big question mark which one of the two is becoming a connoisseur, because they're quite a bit different opinions. All right, okay. Well, where's your?

Ody:

money, odie On who's becoming a connoisseur. Yes, oh, mike.

Marc Gregoire:

Okay, is that even a test? Stay tuned till the end.

Ody:

Nathan doesn't even know what he does and doesn't like, but we love Nathan, I'm not hating.

Nathan Mumm:

I get you, I get you Thanks a lot. Well, that's because we love to hate on him. That's right. Whiskey and technology are such a great pairing, like the NFL start of the season and fantasy football.

Ody:

Woo, okay, that was a good pairing. Thank you very much. Wait a minute. Facebook posts. Odie, are you any fantasy football? No, you know, I thought about getting into it. This year, though, mike is a no, I'm a.

Marc Gregoire:

no, I don't know if that was a good pairing for this group.

Nathan Mumm:

Really, there's three out of four. I'm in 25 different leagues Most people are in 3-4 leagues. I make up for all of you guys. You talk about this as much as you talk about Gwen's wedding, that's right, they should always have a wedding at a freaking zoo or you do various football. That's right Now, let's move on to prepare for our technology fail of the week.

Speaker 7:

Congratulations, you're a failure.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I failed. Did I yes, did I yes.

Nathan Mumm:

All right. This week our technology fail comes to us from Duolingo, the language learning app that now just might be running on all AI app that now just might be running on all AI. Duolingo, the language learning app, apologized in an ex post for calling author JK Rowling mean in a German lesson. They issued an apology that said we apologize for the offensive that was caused and we will remove this content from the app. Duolingo said in response to an August 19th ex-post from Gabby Coppel, a writer and TV producer, who said she was learning German and came across the sentence that says yes, I like Harry Potter, but the author is mean, isn't she mean? I don't know, is the author mean for I?

Ody:

can use uglier words, but yeah, we can go with that.

Nathan Mumm:

It depends on your worldview.

Marc Gregoire:

I bet half our viewers out there think she's mean and horrible and the other half think she's bold and truthful.

Mike Gorday:

Okay, I don't understand why we're having to apologize for using the term mean. Mean why are we apologizing for calling somebody mean?

Nathan Mumm:

I guess we're in a very sensitive world right now.

Speaker 7:

Mike, oh, that's why.

Nathan Mumm:

I just watched Space Jam last night with my nephews and everything.

Speaker 7:

Let me just tell you yeah, you're mean.

Nathan Mumm:

I'll just tell you If I watch that and then I see some of the things that they said. They called people stupid. They called there was moron. Mountain is where they're at. If you look at some of that type of stuff and I could see through the young eyes looking at it as those were like bad words and no one's a moron and everybody's good. So so we have, as a society, changed mean before I yeah, I would have had no problems with that.

Mike Gorday:

You know that's because. That's because when, when we were growing up, it was like if we said, hey, that person's mean to me, somebody would be like shut up yeah, yeah and get a get over it yeah, but you know what?

Nathan Mumm:

I think we're a little bit more sensitive now and I guess somebody complained about her being mean and I think that that mean part could have been.

Mike Gorday:

I'm just really divided on this because it's AI doing this.

Nathan Mumm:

Can I so that is correct, because Duolingo replaced everybody. So this goes back to AI in a solution. Yes, odia.

Ody:

And to add on top of that, before Duolingo did this, they were in social media wise. They were like the number one company to run their social media page yeah, and then they jokes and they had fun things. They were just on top of it regardless, and their you know views were great and blah blah and they were just doing well as a company, and then they introduced this ai bs and it's just kind of like they laid off 50 of their staff yeah and now ai.

Nathan Mumm:

The ceo has said that the apps would replace human contractors with artificial intelligence for the language application so this is proof this is really.

Mike Gorday:

This is really hard for me right now. Why? Is that because they they did this thing with ai and the ai has caused a stir where people are having to get them to apologize for what the AI does. Yeah, and I think that's just funny. You think that's funny?

Nathan Mumm:

So because they had AI, it then probably went on out there and made the assessment that the author of Harry Potter was mean, and so they put it in the AI translations.

Ody:

And now people in the press have to come on out and apologize with Duolingo saying on behalf of a robot for the content that the AI created, a person would have never done it.

Mike Gorday:

They would have never said that to you. No, I don't think so.

Ody:

An employee, yes, but as a translating app, no. At what point do you mention? Oh yeah, this author is mean, I don't know, it's weird.

Marc Gregoire:

My point that I don't understand is why this was even in Duolingo to start with. It's not a phrase I don't want to use. I want to say where's the restroom. How do I find a sausage in this town? Dos cervezas In German.

Mike Gorday:

I want to learn.

Marc Gregoire:

German. When I go around there, I don't want to talk to somebody about the Harry Potter books.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, I guess they're trying.

Marc Gregoire:

Mark, you're old, he is old yeah, okay, well, I guess when do I find the best beer? That's Dos.

Nathan Mumm:

Cervezas, that's two beers in Spanish. I mean, I know all I can ask for a beer in, I think, 15 different languages. You know, nobody is surprised by that. That is the most important thing when you travel internationally. There's like three things you need.

Mike Gorday:

That's the most important right.

Nathan Mumm:

You need the banyo or the bathroom. You need the bathroom right. You need to know where beer is and you normally need to know hotel. That's all you need. It's like where's beer, where's the bathroom.

Mike Gorday:

Thank you very much. This is the American viewpoint of.

Marc Gregoire:

Nathan, here I don't disagree though.

Mike Gorday:

No, but that being the three most important ones, I would have a problem with that.

Marc Gregoire:

All right, what would be your three questions? Mike, hello, how are you? Damn it. He puts a good point.

Nathan Mumm:

How are you? Why do you care about the person you're talking?

Marc Gregoire:

to oh no, that's horrible.

Ody:

God, that's such an American way of feeling.

Mike Gorday:

That's the Nathan way.

Ody:

That's.

Marc Gregoire:

Nathan Land.

Mike Gorday:

That's why when you go to Nathan Land, you just walk in and they give you a beer.

Nathan Mumm:

They don't even say hello, they give you two beers. You know what If Nathan Land? Had an interest of two beers, Nathan Land would be full with many beers.

Marc Gregoire:

I haven't seen Nathan in a few weeks. I got sucked in.

Nathan Mumm:

Did you?

Marc Gregoire:

From my love, alright, well guess what.

Nathan Mumm:

Maybe this should be an I told you so segment. We're now moving into the Nathan Nugget.

Speaker 1:

This is your Nugget of the Week.

Nathan Mumm:

Alright, don't go anywhere. Anybody let me talk to you about something is bugging the heck out of me. I just paid for the nfl red zone okay grumpy nathan, all right, this is.

Nathan Mumm:

This is why I think I've been grumpy. And for the first week of the nfl games, guess what their red zone used to come in their entry line was this welcome to seven hours of non-stop football, commercial free. Well, guess what? I paid for the service. I paid for a service to get the nfl red zone. I pay for a service and it has commercials. I did not pay to get commercials on my nfl red zone. That is not what I'm paying for.

Nathan Mumm:

I pay for a premium product for the n NFL red zone to watch all the games at the same time so that I can watch every touchdown, not having an ad pop on up and saying you can buy this, you can do this. Not a commercial break happening when there's a stoppage to play. None of that should happen. When there's a stoppage of play and nothing is on in the red zone, what they did previously every single freaking year is they go back to a replay or they go into a commentation about hey, what will be bill belichick doing this or this person's doing this? And as I enjoyed the downtime and scott hansen telling me a factual information from his crew of three or four people in the background that are popping him information to talk about for the conversation.

Mike Gorday:

I'm not paying a premium service to have commercials hey nathan, why, why are you not getting hot under the collar when we reported about this in other streaming services?

Nathan Mumm:

well, let me just tell you, because I do, I have been all, I've been all over this right od come on.

Ody:

Yeah, I've been you know, I'm not even a subscriber of this or anything.

Marc Gregoire:

Are you, Mike but?

Ody:

I see your point of view. Because that's their whole thing. You won't miss a second of air Football.

Marc Gregoire:

Yeah, are you a subscriber, mike? No, no, and neither am I. So once again, single person's problem.

Ody:

No, because he does have a crash out, it's just not on air about it. So, Mike from a psychological perspective is this a?

Marc Gregoire:

third world problem.

Mike Gorday:

No, this is a fantasy football problem. How can I grab a?

Nathan Mumm:

player quicker than anybody else if the red zone is not showing me live content.

Mike Gorday:

Okay, all right, we've already talked about this, we know this is going to happen, and I think the funny part about this is that you're Mr Capitalist over here. You love making money and doing things and things like that. This is a capitalist strategy. They're going to hook you in by giving you a premium service where it has no commercials and then, when everybody does that and they need to make more money, they're gonna add commercials in there. So you have to buy the next step up premium but there is no next step up, it's coming.

Mike Gorday:

It's coming, but there's gonna be a premium plus. Why do I? I would pay and you're gonna pay. I would pay and you're going to pay.

Nathan Mumm:

I would pay for the premium plus plus, plus plus

Ody:

plus, and then that's what's going to happen. So you're not going to bunker down, and oh I already complained, I already wrote.

Nathan Mumm:

I wrote like five emails All with different email addresses that I have, and then oh okay.

Ody:

So it's not five from the same person.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I like that you like that.

Nathan Mumm:

See it's like multiple people are having this issue. Is your name in all of them Was?

Ody:

that Is your name in all of them, nathan's in all of them, okay.

Mike Gorday:

The secondary problem to this is that we can't get enough of a following, because we have so many things to worry about in today's society, we can't get enough of a following to boycott this type of behavior, so everybody just does it.

Ody:

Yeah, do you have the will to just quit this?

Nathan Mumm:

No, no, because it's just like a drug to me. That's right, this and.

Speaker 7:

Rockstar are the two things that I will not get rid of.

Mike Gorday:

Admitting is the first step to healing buddy.

Marc Gregoire:

Alright, Odie, play the music all right, let's go to our whiskey pick wow, mark mark mark you need to play the intro of the whiskey or violin music, whichever one a violent music violin, the tiny little violin.

Mike Gorday:

My heart bleeds for you. I'm definitely going to add that.

Speaker 1:

And now our pick of the day for our whiskey tastings. Let's see what bubbles to the top.

Mike Gorday:

Yes, let's see what bubbles.

Marc Gregoire:

All right, gentlemen. We have the Starward Nova Single Malt and we have the Whistlepig Piggyback Bourbon. What is your choice, Nathan?

Nathan Mumm:

Oh no, I'm so worried that I may choose the Whistlepig, but I am still going to stay. I absolutely liked the Glenclaren bottle, is that?

Marc Gregoire:

what it is. Yep, mike, which one did you choose?

Mike Gorday:

You know I like both of them, but today I really enjoyed the Starward Nova.

Marc Gregoire:

So you're saying that's in the beer, one that's in the beer glass. So, mike is correct, mike's palate is on tune. However, nathan will be winning this round because for me, since you guys are split, the Whistlepig is the better yeah.

Mike Gorday:

I don't disagree with that, because the Whistlepig is really good too. Is Nathan's palate getting?

Marc Gregoire:

better. No, because he picked the right one, I don't know. Okay, but if anything.

Ody:

This proves that he doesn't even know his palate because he's given this a thumbs down before right, that's true.

Marc Gregoire:

Yeah, that's multiple times.

Mike Gorday:

So you understand, there's clues here.

Ody:

He knows how to say where's my beer in like 50 languages, but can one argue that because he's not cleansing his palate in between sips, that he's just making a like bad decision.

Marc Gregoire:

You thought about that no, no we'll see what he does in the next round with whistle pig. I will say I gotta let our viewers know. And for mike that the starboard nova single mall. I did not not pick it because it was bad. It's 100 malted barley in our car. Regular listeners know I do not drink malted barley heavy drinks so it didn't hit my flavor palette so I never had a chance in this one oh for me, regardless of how it but star word is known for very good single malts with unique finishes yeah, see, I don't know what it was

Mike Gorday:

today but I think I didn't choose this one before. But today that flavor profile really worked for me and Odie, to go to your point.

Marc Gregoire:

I put these two up again because I wanted Nathan to choose one, because he's always said he hates Whistlepig and the other one is finished in wine barrels and he hates, hates wine.

Ody:

And he hates anything finished in wine too, and he's always bagged on that. So it's like the lesser of two evils.

Nathan Mumm:

All right team. We're about out of time, yeah.

Mike Gorday:

This was a get Nathan one. I love it.

Nathan Mumm:

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Mike Gorday:

Is that your new tag? Yep, bye-bye.

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