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Introducing Horror Daddy J

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Join us in this candid and heartfelt episode as we sit down with Horror Daddy J to explore his journey through kink, sexuality, and self-discovery. Growing up with early exposure to his father's porn stash, he’s always been attuned to his desires.  Raised in a conservative, Christian environment, he reflects on how education and experience have helped him embrace a vibrant, rainbow-colored view of sexuality and love.  He shares practical advice like asking specific safety questions and taking classes to better understand the risks involved.


We share our love story, from a mysterious Facebook friend request, long-distance connection, and first in-person meeting at a kink event. With stories of memorable scenes: fire play, impact play, and more, he dispels the myths often glamorized by media, reminding listeners that BDSM requires knowledge, respect, and consent. Talking openly about his own late-diagnosis of autism, Horror Daddy J details how he feels embraced for his true self within the kink community. An advocate for self-love and authenticity, he encourages listeners to reject societal expectations of the “perfect” life and instead embrace their true desires. Additionally, he shares how cannabis has become an essential tool for reducing anxiety, managing pain, and enhancing intimacy. Wrapping up, the conversation touches on personal growth, mental health, and creative pursuits . 


Key Topics Covered:

  • How we met and managed long distance
  • Early influences on sexuality and desire
  • Diversity and inclusion within the kink community
  • Navigating neurodivergence, masking, and sensory needs
  • Memorable kink scenes: fire play, impact, urethral sounding, and more
  • Aftercare practices: cuddles, debriefs, and cannabis use
  • Myths about cannabis and its benefits for stress and intimacy
  • Challenging societal expectations and embracing authentic self-expression
  • Designing custom BDSM gear and exploring creative kink pursuits


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Welcome To The Lounge

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Hi, I'm Miss Mackenzie.

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And I'm Parker Lee.

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SPEAKER_02

Welcome back, my lovely listeners. I have such a treat for you today. I have my amazing partner, Horror Daddy J, with me today, and I wanted everyone to get to know him a little bit better. I've come up with some questions to delve deep with him about kink, sexuality, intimacy, and cannabis. All of our favorite things. We've been together for two years now, so this episode is finally here. We don't have Parker Lee with us for our time this time, but um let's see if we can entertain you anyway. So um why don't you tell everyone a little bit about yourself, honey, before we get into some of the questions I have?

SPEAKER_00

Okay, Princess. Hi everyone. I'm Horidaddy J. Um 33, 6'3, switch, only with Miss Mackenzie.

SPEAKER_02

Um I make all of her custom woodwork that's on her site and all the furniture, all the sexy kinky toys, all the bondage stuff.

SPEAKER_00

Everything's made here in-house. Literally.

SPEAKER_02

And um and you're also really loving doing pro dom work, right?

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02

Yes. Anything else? That's it.

SPEAKER_00

It's all I can think of off the top of my head, right?

SPEAKER_02

Obviously, a horror fanatic.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, absolutely. Uh tis that time of year again, my favorite time of year. It's getting cold outside and it's spooky movie season.

Origins Of Desire And Liberation

SPEAKER_02

Love that. Yes, yes, yes. So I did have some questions from my listeners, from my students that wanted to know a little bit about you. So some of these questions might be a little bit surprising. Okay. Yeah? Are you ready? Yeah, let's go. Okay. Um, and know that we may be smoking at some point during this conversation. What? Yeah. Okay. Let's just jump off. Okay. How did you first discover your interest in kink and sexuality?

SPEAKER_00

Well, you see as you see someone as someone exposed to um sexual images at a at a really young age because little boys are curious, and I found my father's porn stash.

SPEAKER_02

As you do. As one does.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Um, but you know, five's a little bit younger to find it than probably most. Yeah. Than a lot. Um, so I've always been more in tune with sexual urges and such coming up through life. So I found I stumbled into the more interesting uh side of things, which is king, not just your typical missionary and uh sex.

SPEAKER_02

The fun stuff.

SPEAKER_00

All the fun stuff.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_02

Um, can you share a moment where when you felt the most liberated exploring your desires?

SPEAKER_00

That would honestly have to be whenever I met you because there was a complete sense of safety and understanding. There was no judgment when I was coming into this. So I knew that you accepted me for who I was and who I wanted to be in your standard vanilla life and in the kink lifestyle.

SPEAKER_02

Was there like a moment that you felt like really liberated?

SPEAKER_00

It was pretty much whenever we were whenever we were dating and you were explaining your life and your lifestyle. When I was telling you, like you were asking me about all my kinks, and I was just like naming them off and couldn't really figure anything out. And you're like, Well, what you don't figure out, we can figure out later together. And so I knew at that point that it was it was gonna be pretty great.

How We Met And First Sparks

SPEAKER_02

And it has been, it has been amazing. I love that. Um, people might want to know how we met.

SPEAKER_00

Oh.

SPEAKER_02

Actually, I didn't even think about that. People may want to know that.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so this beautiful woman right here decided to send me a friend request on Facebook of all places.

SPEAKER_02

Guys, never in my entire adult life did I ever reach out to anybody first, ever. That's just not me. That's not a a thing that I think to do. And I don't know what happened. The universe was just like, you need to do this. Spoke through me. I'm not sure. Sorry, get.

SPEAKER_00

So uh she sent a friend request and uh I messaged it.

SPEAKER_02

I'm like, hey, you know, do I immediately might we might I add? Yeah, immediately.

SPEAKER_00

Well, it was at night. I was working night shift, so um, but yeah, I sent a message. I was like, hey, you know, do I know you? Whatever. And she was like, No, I just I just thought you were cute and saw you posted something, figured I'd reach out. And so uh from there, that's pretty much that. I mean, she did have to be like, I am flirting with you, you know, flat out, like exact wording.

SPEAKER_02

Well, because you had no idea.

SPEAKER_00

I didn't, because I mean, in today's time, it's you know, people can be nice, and there's a lot of creepy ass people who mistake that for flirting.

SPEAKER_02

So true. So true.

SPEAKER_00

Also, being now newly understanding that I'm autistic, that also means why I can't pick up when people are flirting or yeah, I can't pick up.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, for sure. It's your lovely neurodivergence.

SPEAKER_00

It absolutely is.

SPEAKER_02

But you were like, there's no way that this pretty girl is into me. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00

I was like, this has gotta be a scam.

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This has gotta be a scam.

SPEAKER_00

She's gonna ask me to go get a green dot card.

SPEAKER_02

Share the pin and everything.

SPEAKER_00

I need you to read me.

SPEAKER_02

You're funny. Um, how do you think or how has your perspective, if at all, on sexuality evolved over time?

SPEAKER_00

Would you like to hit this before you say that?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Holding on to it. Hopefully our listeners are you know, smoking along with us.

SPEAKER_00

Hopefully.

SPEAKER_02

If you're sober, no big deal. Or if you don't, you know, smoke weed, no big deal.

Evolving Views On Sexuality

SPEAKER_00

So my perspective of sexuality's changed because I've just educated myself and took a step back and looked at the world through different set of eyes. Growing up in the South, um, I was raised very religious, very Christian, not necessarily in my household, but in my family, um, with people that I was really close with, my grandparents. And so, you know, I I had that upbringing upbringing, the Christian mentality for a long time. And then as I was educating myself, which, you know, we're supposed to do to continue evolving as humans.

SPEAKER_02

Since um, you know, school doesn't go too much into that. Yeah. Except for abstinence.

SPEAKER_00

Mm-hmm. So uh, you know, just experiences and people have taught me that, you know, there's there's no black and white, there's there's fucking beautiful rainbows all over the place. It's just I love that.

SPEAKER_02

That's such a good way to put that. I love that.

SPEAKER_00

And you know, if you really are straight, that's cool. If you're not, that's also cool. There's no reason to be ashamed of it. I understand that, you know, people are have tough families. Um but you know, it's your life, it's short. Don't let anybody sway you not to live it to your fullest and love who you want.

Most Memorable Kink Weekend

SPEAKER_02

And explore as long as things are consensual. Our whole, I think our society teaches us that we're supposed to be in these boxes. And um, studies have really shown recently, they've done a lot of studies that the more you break up your day with something new, um, whether it's kink or sexuality or interests or conversations you're gonna have, but breaking it up and not having the same day really helps like days last longer and are be more meaningful. So yeah, I love that. Um, I have one here. Can you describe the most memorable kink experience you've had?

SPEAKER_00

Um our first date, which is my first kink event, my first like actual.

SPEAKER_02

So we were so we were long distance for almost nine months, and it was very hard. It was much harder than I thought. Everyone talks about long distance, and I'd been long distance, but um it was it was gut-wrenching every time I left.

SPEAKER_03

Same.

SPEAKER_02

So when we finally got to actually be together, um, yeah. When we finally got to be together, it was just like more than fireworks.

SPEAKER_00

It it was, even though it was in a very, very peculiar hotel room with three, three full-size beds. No clue why.

SPEAKER_02

So the first time that we met, guys, we our first date was at a weekend long kink event. And so um, we weren't staying in the host hotel, we were staying in the third overflow hotel, second or third overflow hotel, and it was um a time.

SPEAKER_00

It was.

SPEAKER_02

There was Is that why it was memorable?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, well, I mean, it was memorable because like that was my first kink event, and it also included all kinds of well, first weekend long.

SPEAKER_02

You'd been to parties.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Though the the parties were not so great. We're just gonna put that out there. But this the kink event was great. Definitely got a lot of uh I can't I can't tell you how many bags I pulled out of that little car.

SPEAKER_02

I um I was pretty uh romantic. I got you special blue roses.

SPEAKER_00

I know, and I spread them all over the room very quickly as I was bringing in luggage behind you. It was great.

SPEAKER_02

Exactly. So that was your most memorable?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Okay. Um, well, it wasn't okay. So kink experience as a whole, since it was an event. Got it. I see.

Safety, Negotiation, And Risk

SPEAKER_00

That that's where my brain took that question.

SPEAKER_02

That makes sense, yeah. Um, what's one thing you wish more people understood about kink?

SPEAKER_00

You can't just let anybody say that they know what they're doing. You really need to understand what your kink safety is really all about. You can't just let some guy that swears up and down a line he's a daddy and a Dom come and do whatever because that is where you can get into unsafe situations.

SPEAKER_02

For sure. Like, so like asking people's, like, what are your safety protocols? Like, what do you know about the risks about the play we're going to do? And specifically ask, not just do you know the risks, well, like asking a whole profile.

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely. That also ties in to more along the lines of what I was saying, like you need to understand and do some research yourself, take some classes, learn for yourself that what hazards can be included in this type of thing you're wanting to experience and explore. Like what are the dangers? What the dangers are, like how how things are supposed to be, the fact you're actually supposed to have negotiation beforehand about every detail about what's going to occur in in that scene. That's something that was not talked about in in my first experiences in the kink world, and that's something I wish I knew back then. Because it was like, hey, are you okay with you know, if you sign up for this, you're just okay with it.

SPEAKER_02

Right.

SPEAKER_00

Like you sign up to get a spot on stage and you're not told, hey, like this is what could happen, or hey, you know, you're up here for this amount of time. You know, you can safe words, you can it's just, hey, you sign up for this to experience this. That's cool.

SPEAKER_02

I wish there was much more of a um like you having to do, I don't know, like a BDSM 101 201 class before being able to be at these events or parties or whatever. Like, not that you can't play outside of that, but I just wish that was like a norm, like a a staple for every place.

SPEAKER_00

And it's not it's not because movies and TV they romanticize the act. So people think that everything's like a movie, that you can just go into it and everything And yeah, there's some dangers, but I'll be fine.

SPEAKER_02

Like it's a small amount of danger rather than like, oh, you could die from this. Exactly. Or like, oh, you could be severely burned, or you could lose mobility. Right. I can't tell you the amount of people that I've known over the years that now have some form of nerve damage from bondage, even like not extreme bondage. Um, they just didn't know. And um, they didn't know that they should tell people when to stop and things like that, unfortunately. Um how do you think kink and sexuality can promote greater inclusion and acceptance? And that's okay if you don't know how to answer that as a white man.

SPEAKER_00

So the the way I see it, anytime I've gone to a kink event, there's people from all genders, from all races, from all types of status, from all ages.

SPEAKER_02

That surprised you that surprised you.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, because it wasn't something that wasn't readily known. So it doesn't matter who you are in everyday life, as soon as you're in a kink space, you're who you can and want to be. There's there's nothing holding you back, there's no judgment. Everybody is there welcoming as long as everything is consensual.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, for sure. I know. So we just got back from kinky college in Chicago. Um, and uh, I know one of the things that was really nice for you is to see a lot of people in our age range, um, you know, and and a lot of different identities, like a lot of masks, a lot of um pet play, a lot of you saw a lot of age play, and like I guess like gender representations.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, because the the smaller events we went to were normally older, uh were an older crowd. You didn't see a lot of young crowds. Um whereas this one it's a lot of younger and more.

SPEAKER_02

It was a masse, but yes, a lot of younger.

SPEAKER_00

And it was way more diverse in in the the communities under the alphabet.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, for sure. Absolutely. We also saw saw a lot of like um, you know, minorities, people of um uh uh, you know, different cultures, which is nice.

SPEAKER_00

And and and the beautiful thing is it's not just for the able-bodied. There are so many people in the community that are disabled. And that's I know that's something I think most people over like don't think about. Like maybe they feel like they can't be in it, but it doesn't matter. You're I mean, we saw people playing in wheelchairs and stuff and canes and it's just beautiful that people know that they can come into this and make friends and open up and be themselves. And you know, that's a big thing, even for me, you know, especially so like just finding out I had autism and just like making those connections of why I was so weird growing up and now like being in a place that accepts your weirdness, that accepts my weirdness. Oh, I love that to just be me and just be weird and talk to me.

SPEAKER_02

Um, I think what I've noticed more in the years, it wasn't like this when I first got involved, but more in these kinks and in the lifestyle, they're having talks surrounding neurodivergence in general and the huge overlap in kink and neurodivergence for multiple different reasons. But I think one way that I think helping to be more inclusive is having those kind of workshops, like letting people know that that's so normal. There's so many people in the kink community that are neurodivergence on the spectrum. What, you know, on the whole entire neurodivergence spectrum, not just autism spectrum. Um, but I just think it's fascinating having these kind of classes and then also having classes surrounding chronic illness and disability with kink and stuff, and being able to have those classes helps make it more normalized.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. And and every day there's something new being learned about us as humans that's adding more beauty to the kink scene.

SPEAKER_02

Absolutely. Having these kind of spaces that are specific for different groups, I think is beneficial as well. Like I know we're talking about inclusion for like being involved in these things, but sometimes I think about a lot of BIPOC communities that don't feel comfortable around, you know, I don't know, like white parties and things like that, and being able to have like a space that's specific for them to be safe and to feel safe, or LGBTQIA plus people.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And being able to have a space where they feel safe, that they don't have to be like in a only heteronormative space where they feel like an outsider.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

Fireplay, Impact, And Aftercare Rituals

SPEAKER_02

So yeah, I think that's cool. Um what's a personal kink or fantasy you're comfortable sharing? You could talk about a basic one. You have a lot now that you've now that you've met me. Now that I'm sorry, there's a lot. Exactly.

SPEAKER_03

You could talk about a fireplay.

SPEAKER_00

Oh man, that that is a good one. Thank you for reminding me of that one.

SPEAKER_02

I had to remind you.

SPEAKER_00

It's been so long.

SPEAKER_02

Ah, okay, go ahead.

SPEAKER_00

So incorporating fireplay with a hand job was absolutely mind-blowing. It was something, you know, I've experienced fire and having a penis, I've experienced hand jobs. But sort of. Sort of. Well, before you it was definitely a sort of. But um when you were doing fire play and then you started giving me a hand job, it just fucking blew my mind. I did not know that that could be right there and be so amazing to just uh.

SPEAKER_02

You were literally in ecstasy. I don't know that I've ever seen your eyes that far behind your bed, uh your head.

SPEAKER_00

I think the only time I think the only other time that you've said that is sounding.

SPEAKER_02

Oh yeah. Yeah, for sure. You are like that with sounding too. Well, and you can't see my face, but that's typically what's going on when you Well, I typically put pillows behind you so that your head goes up so I can see your face.

SPEAKER_00

Well, no, no, no. I'm saying whenever whenever you do impact.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

That's any pretty much anytime you touch me, um, I'm the next is honestly.

SPEAKER_02

I love that. You're so cute. Um, same though. Um, got me all flustered. I gotta find my questions. I got the fanny fletus. Um what is your favorite way to unwind and relax after a passionate experience with me? Besides passing out.

SPEAKER_00

Well, you know, the I learned from you the melatonin that's released in the uh AMAP body.

SPEAKER_02

Mm-hmm. Well, it's released in everybody, but I think it's more in an AMAP body.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. For sure. That's what you're saying. Um Well, we enjoy laughs like no other. And normally just recapping on our experience and just having a good laugh or aha and some motherfuckers is pretty nice.

SPEAKER_02

Well, they don't know what that is. So basically we can explain you gotta explain to my listeners.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so basically we'll get on her phone and we'll play Family Feud or some other game where you compete against other people.

SPEAKER_02

After we've done aftercare and stuff, obviously.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Um, after we've smoked too. Yeah. Smoke and cuddle. It's smoke and cuddle for aftercare, and then afterwards it's aha and motherfuckers, and that's where we get on and we put our our freshly mushed high brains together to come up with answers. To come up with answers and and and beat people in online games.

SPEAKER_02

And we when we beat them, we say aha.

SPEAKER_00

So we get on there and we aha motherfucker.

SPEAKER_02

Honestly, it feels really good to aha someone. It really doesn't. I don't know why.

SPEAKER_00

It's your competitive nature, my darling.

SPEAKER_02

I don't have it anymore so much, do I?

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, I do. Got it.

Advice For Nontraditional Folks

SPEAKER_00

Anytime Jackbox is involved, or or what is it? Heads up?

SPEAKER_02

And heads up.

SPEAKER_00

Heads up.

SPEAKER_02

Exactly. Right. Um what would advice would you give to folks who feel they don't fit in traditional sexuality norms? Or I guess even traditional societal norms, you can even say. Since you identify as like an outsider like I do, you know, as an outside the box thinker, and so I've always felt as an outsider.

SPEAKER_00

Um, you know, I I couldn't quite put my finger on it growing up, but there was a lot of a lot of trauma, just like anybody else. Um but there was a lot of things that was different about me. Um so I I never really felt like I fit in. I was trying to find my place, and that was a lot of not knowing who I was, and then understanding that you know, you don't have to be traditional. You don't have to, you know, have the Disney portrayed, you know. Life. Yeah, the life. It doesn't have to always be perfect. It doesn't have to be, you know, American dream with the wife and kids and picket fences. It's and the wife is a stay-at-home mom. It doesn't have to be that way. And and that was an experience that I had to learn the hard way. Um I've definitely caused myself a lot of trauma for trying to chase that drain.

SPEAKER_02

Um only I think a lot of people have.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. And you know, if it works out for you, great. If it doesn't, that doesn't mean you're a defect. That doesn't mean there's something wrong with you. That just means that that's not your lane. That's not what the universe is meant for you.

SPEAKER_02

You're meant to create a new path.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02

Um it's like more you're more so like telling people like just like accept themselves for themselves.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

As long as it's perfectly legal. Don't don't be a don't be that guy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Or that girl. It's not always about that.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

There are not so great women as well. Which we are aware of.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, we're both very aware of us.

Cannabis Myths And Benefits

SPEAKER_02

Um, alright. Let's jump into some a couple cannabis questions. How about that? All right. So um what's a common misconception about cannabis that you've heard?

SPEAKER_00

It's a gateway. It's not a gateway.

SPEAKER_02

Oh my god, a heat.

SPEAKER_00

Oh man.

SPEAKER_02

It's a gateway to the to the couch. It's a gateway to the bridge.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, it's a gateway to a little bit of weight gain, but honestly, it's a gateway to fucking less stress and anxiety.

SPEAKER_02

For sure. I think that it's becoming more well known as this, like as medicinal purposes. Like, oh, it's not just for people who want to get fucked up. It's there's so many reasons why people consume.

SPEAKER_00

I know for your chronic pain, it helps wonders. Yeah. I mean, and even then there are times where it doesn't. And that's that's the thing. I know for me, it's great for headaches. It's great for my stress and anxiety when I'm overwhelmed, when I'm overstimulated and don't know what to do.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_00

Um, it's also great for my pain. You know, my back hurts, I'm tall.

SPEAKER_02

I understand.

SPEAKER_00

Um But yeah, I've weeds never made me been like, wow, you know, this is so great. I just want to get so high on another drug. On crystal meth. Right. Like the the gateway thing's a bunch of bullshit. It's all about where you're at mentally and the people you have around you.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, absolutely. If you you're gonna want to try those drugs, it has nothing to do with you trying cannabis or consuming. Um learned about yourself through Kink.

SPEAKER_00

So through Kink I've learned that, you know, I am I am more fluid um with my sexuality with who I am as a person. Like I don't every day I am a man's man, tall, bearded, works with my hands, but in kink I don't I don't have to be that. I can I can be submissive, I can be a little femme, I don't have to be, I could be a little. I don't I don't have to I don't have to stay is how I am. However I'm feeling is how I can be in kink.

SPEAKER_02

I love that. That's so powerful. I don't think people talk about that enough and how they can present and how it gives the power to be able to present however the fuck you want and that time that that people can have so many different roles and show up in a different role every day.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and it's because of the safety that there is in the community. Like you're it's not that I'm ashamed of who I am, it's that you know, I've I've got a lot of people I need to protect. And if it um it's something that you know, I'm with the world how it is now, I would rather unfortunately I would rather appear to be one of the fucking tough guys, one of the tough guys to protect those around me.

SPEAKER_02

For sure.

SPEAKER_00

But whenever kink's involved, I'm free to be me.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I love that. I wonder like how many other people like feel that way, that they're just like, you know, like I know a lot of people in the professional industry that I've you know had as clients that are these masculine, huge CEO, big time um like dominant personalities in real life, in their real life. And then in kink, they can be feminized, they can be a sissy, they can be, they want to be that, right? Part of it's like balance, and part of it's like they're able to be whatever they want to be for that time frame. So, like I've seen it a lot in that way, but I don't know how many other people have had those similar experiences. Probably a lot. I'm assuming a lot. What's one piece of advice you'd give your younger self?

SPEAKER_00

Do therapy.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, earlier for sure. I love that. Mental health fucking matters. It does.

Therapy, Healing, And Growth

SPEAKER_00

Because honestly, there's so much of myself that I'm I'm having to go back and heal because I didn't I didn't do the therapy when I was younger. And I also would have had my autism diagnosis a little bit sooner, I believe, um, which would have greatly altered some feelings, I'm pretty sure.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Yeah, for sure. I think um people have an idea and a real scary thought toward mental health and like therapy. And um I think when you find a good therapist, the connection is so powerful. And like you that's when you can do your healing. Well, when you're in a safe environment and you're you're with people who support you, but also having someone that you click with and feels good.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I think the beautiful thing now is this generation, our generation is like understanding that and trying to get it for the younger generation, trying to get them to help that we didn't have.

SPEAKER_02

I know it's not yeah, our parents weren't told to go to therapy, they were told to suck it up.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, we I was too. But I think there's our generation and and younger are trying to break these generational curses and generational trauma.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Um, so yeah, it makes sense. What is one major aspect of BDSM that I have taught you? Besides some of the stuff that you've already said.

SPEAKER_00

One of the biggest aspects you've taught me.

SPEAKER_02

You have talked about safety and you have talked about negotiations.

What BDSM Taught Us

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that's I mean, honestly, without that, like nothing else really Honestly, without that, nothing else matters. If you don't understand the negotiation aspect of tank and you don't understand the safety, then you shouldn't be doing the things. Well, not just that, your experience could be tanked because you and the person you're trying this with don't understand the risks. So it could be a bad experience for you and they think that they're doing a fantastic job.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And then they go out and do that to other people.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00

So education and safety are paramount in this, and and that's the greatest thing I took away from it from anything that we've done.

SPEAKER_02

And that I've taught you.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I've taught you some cool techniques.

SPEAKER_00

You you have.

SPEAKER_02

But yeah. But yeah. Um. Is there anything that you wanted to talk about with our time?

SPEAKER_00

Well, I'm just, you know, working in the shop, trying to figure out some new cool things to add to the site. Maybe some new furniture, some new uh, some new paddle designs.

SPEAKER_02

We've been coming up with some cool ones.

SPEAKER_00

We have.

SPEAKER_02

And uh I know you're working on a smother box.

SPEAKER_00

Smotherbox. Um what is it you called it? The cuffs, the boot?

SPEAKER_02

The bootstrap cuffs? What cuffs? The oh, the yoke.

SPEAKER_03

Yoke.

Building Toys And Future Sessions

SPEAKER_02

The yoke. Yes. You're gonna make some cool yokes and stuff. I love that. Also, yay to bondage. We love bondage.

SPEAKER_00

We gotta have a test subject, you know.

SPEAKER_02

Thought that's what Parker's for. Our little crash test dummy. Um, okay, so all right, so that's what's coming up with you. Um, how about like what are some pro dom sessions that you want to have that you haven't had yet? I love when the cute subby boys submit to you.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I do love that. It's a little hot for me, I'm not gonna lie.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, you you just have that thing. And that's perfectly fine because it's enjoyable for me as well. I love that.

SPEAKER_02

So, what kind of things would would be hot for you? You did get some really nice new boots.

SPEAKER_00

I did. I did.

SPEAKER_02

Maybe some boot worship sessions?

SPEAKER_00

Boot worship, maybe somebody wants to be stepped on. Be stepped on. Maybe somebody wants to feel like I'm a giant.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, I love that. Can you say it a little slower next time? No, I'm just saying. Yeah, well, now that you're like, you know, learn you've learned like a lot of like impact skills, it might be cool for you to have some like over-the-knee stuff. Some over-the-knee impact sessions.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, you know. Poor daddy's gotta hand out some uh punishment. You know, maybe that looks like somebody's been a bad they, them, he, him, she, she, she, her.

SPEAKER_02

I love that. There might be some naughty listeners listening in right now.

SPEAKER_00

Maybe.

SPEAKER_02

I think you should do your I think you should do your daddy voice for them.

SPEAKER_00

My daddy voice.

SPEAKER_02

Growl and growl. They might find it hot.

SPEAKER_00

Uh I don't know if I can do the growl right now. My throat's pretty scratched with the cold. Fair. Been brought into this house.

SPEAKER_02

Fair.

SPEAKER_00

Fair.

SPEAKER_02

Um maybe we'll have you like read a story sometime for the listeners. Maybe. I don't know if you guys are ready for that though. It's fire. And then when he starts adding accents in.

SPEAKER_00

So Roy Kinnan, though.

SPEAKER_02

He's very good with his accents. Um, all right. We always ask our people that we have on, and while you are very different, you're not different in this. We're gonna ask you the same question. What is one of your favorite ways to connect with a partner? By partner, I mean me.

SPEAKER_00

My favorite way to connect with you is through touch and laughter.

SPEAKER_02

I love that.

Connection Through Touch And Breath

SPEAKER_00

So just touching your body and feeling your energy anytime, and there are times I can feel your energy without having to touch you. But just absolutely getting the energy through the touch is just it's so wonderful. It's I feel so connected with you, and then you know, when you throw in um breathing.

SPEAKER_02

Like our deep breathing that we do.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, our deep breathing exercises, and we get on the same heart. It's like we get on the same heartbeat, the same breath pattern, and it's just we're so connected and so great.

SPEAKER_02

I love that.

SPEAKER_00

Because I've never had that with anybody else. I never knew how to connect with anybody else.

SPEAKER_02

Uh-huh. I love that. Makes me feel special things.

SPEAKER_00

We are special.

SPEAKER_02

Um, anything else you want to share with the folks? Nothing? Anything?

SPEAKER_00

Um. If you have it and get online and look at all these classes, there's there's quite a lot of classes. How many classes do y'all have online though?

SPEAKER_02

Um on my on-demand classes, I have 77 on there right now.

SPEAKER_00

And they go from 101s to 201s to intensive.

SPEAKER_02

Advanced, all the things. And a few of them you're demo bottoming in. And I know you're going to be demo bottoming for some more stuff. So some people can see you in your skippies, what do they call it? And yeah, unwiss. Um, yeah, okay. Well, thank you for coming on. And um maybe we'll have some more episodes, some fun stuff with you in it for future if you're down.

SPEAKER_00

I am absolutely okay with that. This has been a great experience.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, thank you. You're down to clown.

SPEAKER_00

Down to clown.

SPEAKER_02

Thank you so much for joining. I hope you um had a good time. Not didn't really learn much, probably, but I hope you had a good time. And I look forward to um seeing you guys in future classes, future events, all of the things. Take care of yourselves.

SPEAKER_00

Later.

Classes, Community, And Farewell

SPEAKER_02

Thanks for joining us. Tune in next time for more Adventures in the Lounge. And remember, always keep an open mind. You never know what's around the corner.