Dan and Mike welcome actress Cindy Busby to the Oh Brother podcast. Hailing from Montreal, Quebec, Canada, Cindy has appeared in numerous television and film features including a series regular role on Heartland when she was cast as Ashley Stanton. She recently starred in the Netflix film Romance on the Menu opposite Australian actor Tim Ross. The brothers also discuss Cindy's most recent starring roles in Toying with the Holidays on Lifetime opposite Chad Michael Murray and Joy for Christmas on GAC Family with Sam Page. Cindy has shared the screen with such top talent as Andie MacDowell, Steve Martin, James Brolin, Jack Black, Owen Wilson, and Lea Thompson. Cindy talks canines, Christmas, Jim Carrey, her love of the eighties and provides a fascinating insight into her acting process. Don't miss this inspiring conversation with Cindy Busby as the Oh Brother podcast wraps up season 2 and rings in the new year!
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www.cindybusby.com
Cinematographer and Producer Johnny Derango
Oh Brother Podcast:
Dan and Mike welcome actress Cindy Busby to the Oh Brother podcast. Hailing from Montreal, Quebec, Canada, Cindy has appeared in numerous television and film features including a series regular role on Heartland when she was cast as Ashley Stanton. She recently starred in the Netflix film Romance on the Menu opposite Australian actor Tim Ross. The brothers also discuss Cindy's most recent starring roles in Toying with the Holidays on Lifetime opposite Chad Michael Murray and Joy for Christmas on GAC Family with Sam Page. Cindy has shared the screen with such top talent as Andie MacDowell, Steve Martin, James Brolin, Jack Black, Owen Wilson, and Lea Thompson. Cindy talks canines, Christmas, Jim Carrey, her love of the eighties and provides a fascinating insight into her acting process. Don't miss this inspiring conversation with Cindy Busby as the Oh Brother podcast wraps up season 2 and rings in the new year!
#actress #podcast #interview #movies #television #hallmark #lifetime #netflix #heartland #gacfamily #chadmichaelmurray
Find Cindy Busby on social media and check out her website!
@cindy_busby
www.cindybusby.com
Cinematographer and Producer Johnny Derango
Oh Brother Podcast:
Welcome to the Oh brother podcast. I'm your host, Dan Smith. alongside me as always is my brother from the same mother, Mike Smith. How's it going Dan? Good man. Happy holidays. Happy new year's Eve Eve 2021. And we are wrapping up pardon the pun. We're wrapping up season two of the Oh brother podcast. We made it, we made it putting a bow on this one, as it were with really the most fitting way that you can do it, which is an interview with Cindy Busby, who maybe next to Mrs. Claus. Who else could you want on this episode of the Oh Brother podcast, the perfect Christmas guest. Yes. You know, holiday guest, for those of you that are not currently following us, make sure that you do and the easiest way to find all things Oh Brother is to go out to our official website, which is O H B as in brother podcast.com. Oh, oh, look it. I have one of the generic mugs. Oh, I got caught look. It it's bad. Thankfully you saved me. Yeah. So, it's O H B podcast.com. You can, u h, get access to a ll t hings Oh Brother out there and make sure to follow us on YouTube. Hit that notification b ell hit the thumbs up. That really would help us out if you do that. W e're we're trying to, s ubscribe, subscribe. Yeah. We w ant t o, we're trying to get t he show out to, u h, t o more and more folks. U h, so if you can help us spread the word, w e we'd really appreciate that for people who don't know Cindy, she's, you know, a big t ime, u h, she's a big t ime star on hallmark lifetime, lifetime. U h, it's funny, c uz whenever I go to, you know, the VCR t o, t o tape something, there's never any room because o h mother likes to record, you know, all of those movies. You're still using the VCR. Yeah. Well we do talk about, we do talk about the eighties in this interview with Cindy quite a bit, I guess, but I guess that's relevant. Why, what do you call it now? It's a DVR. Not a VCR. Yeah. I guess I, you threw me there is really, but yeah, for those of you that may not be, uh, uh, familiar with her work, go out to her website, Cindy busby.com. She's also on Instagram, Cindy underscore Busby. Uh, same on Twitter I believe as well. And we'll put those here in the, in the, uh, video for you and we can, we can actually that the Cindy Busby you watch on TV is the exact same Cindy Busby. Yeah. You're gonna talk to, she's just exactly who she is. Yeah. Just uh, tons of energy. We're positive. Just, you know. Yeah, really, really great. Very, like you said, very expressive and uh, just really fascinating months ago. You, you mentioned we haven't had an interview in a, in a while. It's been a while. Yeah. We haven't really gone after anyone mm-hmm<affirmative> but the one person you mentioned several times to me was Cindy mm-hmm<affirmative> and as Christmas was getting closer, you kept saying, we gotta do Cindy, we gotta get Cindy. And I'm like, we'll get her then, you know, and sure enough, you got her and we were fortunate enough to, yeah, it was great that she agreed to do it. And we just had a really fun time and some laughs there along the way too. So we hope that you'll enjoy the, this, this interview. Um, we think you're gonna find it, uh, highly enjoyable and highly entertaining. So, and, and for those who might not recognize her name, I bet you've seen her. I bet. Oh yeah. Almost guarantee you've seen her on something. Yeah. Check out her resume on IMDB. It's it's very impressive. So enjoy this interview with actress. Cindy Busby. Hello Cindy.
Speaker 2:Good morning. Good afternoon. And
Oh Brother podcast:Good day.<laugh> oh, that's a nice Truman show reference. I like that. That's
Speaker 2:Good. I actually just watched it recently again. It's so good, did you?
Oh Brother podcast:Yeah. Oh, I think it is one of his best. It's good.
Speaker 2:So good also I'm sorry. Back to the future behind you, okay. Now you officially have my heart.<laugh> all right.
Oh Brother podcast:Great.<laugh> well, he's just upgraded his background. He, he had this old eighties clock that was on the wall. Literally. It's been around since like the eighties. It was pretty sad. So that's an upgrade<laugh> yeah.
Speaker 2:Well what better thing to replace it with then something from the eighties, like that, that's true.
Oh Brother podcast:That's true. And see I I've got three decades covered there, so yeah,
Speaker 2:That's right. Yeah.
Oh Brother podcast:Yeah. So totally. None of which are your favorite films as we've talked about, which is kind of interesting, you know, he's he's like citizen Kane. He's a big film noir guy. That's the most stuff. Oh yeah. Have you seen it? Makes me think when you talk about truman show and Jim Carey and you've done so many television movies, he did, one of his earliest appearances was a, was a TV movie called doing time on maple drive. Have you ever seen that? No,
Speaker 2:I haven't.
Oh Brother podcast:You should try to find it because it it's, like you said, Mike, he's got such good dramatic chops. Mm-hmm<affirmative> that it really shows in that film. He's I think he's an alcoholic and he's in this dysfunctional family and you know, but it's a good, it's a good cast and okay. He's really incredible in it. Yeah. So if you can find it it's it's it's again, probably the eighties, I would say so.
Speaker 2:Okay. Well I'm a huge fan of the, the eighties, um, as far as movies go. So, um, I'll definitely look into it. That sounds exciting. Plus it's like pouring rain here in LA. So we've been just like looking at things to watch. And, and are you working
Oh Brother podcast:Right now?
Speaker 2:No, not working right now. This is like, usually these two weeks, like Christmas new year's are typically like the time of year where actors don't work<laugh> or anyone in the industry for the most part. So it's kind of nice cuz you can like just totally disconnect and not think about like, what am I missing out on? Or like what's going on out there. Like if my agent's not calling me, it's normal.<laugh> right,
Oh Brother podcast:Right. Yeah. Now it, it it's interesting cuz I was curious if you were, were living in Canada still cause you still work a lot in Canada,
Speaker 2:Right? Oh yeah. I work a lot in Canada. Um, and you know, it's, it's gonna, it's forever my home because that's where I'm from. Right. Um, and uh, but yeah, I'm, I'm here right now. I'm with my husband and my dog and uh, yeah,
Oh Brother podcast:We're just, uh, do you have dual, dual citizenship? Do you have citizen?
Speaker 2:I, I have a green card, so I have my, um, my American green card. Okay. So
Oh Brother podcast:You don't have to worry about you're shooting a movie and I, I gotta skip back to Canada few days. Yeah,
Speaker 2:No I'm uh, don't worry about that set legally on that. I, I did all the work<laugh> and boy did a lot of work. Let me tell
Oh Brother podcast:That they make it tough. So
Speaker 2:Yeah, they do, but you know, it makes sense. So, uh, yeah, no, it's, it's, it's a very relieving process when it's all
Oh Brother podcast:Over. Yeah. You mentioned your husband and your dog. Tell us about sues.
Speaker 2:Is it, I mean,
Oh Brother podcast:How much time do you have sues or is it cause we're big animal lovers
Speaker 2:Too. I mean, here's the thing, I don't know if you guys have animals, but uh, or ever had one, but I feel like you always, or any human for that matter, like you always kind of change up their name, right? Like you, they get at like all these nicknames and yeah. Um, and nobody really ends up calling them their real name. Like I have so many nicknames for myself, well, not for myself, but that have been given to me. Um, and so we adopted Susie in July of this year. Um, she's, you know, a mix of all the great of all the greatness and uh, she's seven and a half. And uh, we, so her name was Susie when we got her. And I just think it's funny to call her like, Hey says<laugh> well, she's probably gonna come now. Um, but, uh, and then, and then I don't know, one day I was just being, you know, ridiculous and set called her BU P. And so now she's also buby and then I make up songs that go along with it, like her names. Um, so yeah, that's um, that's the kind of stuff that happens in this household when not working. It's very, very
Oh Brother podcast:Interesting stuff. You're already, you're already making her an Instagram star too. I see she's out.
Speaker 2:Ah, I just, I mean, I'm so honestly I'm so bad with all that, like social media stuff. Like I'm always like, who cares about my life really? Like, that's how I see it. And I'm always amazed at like, when I do post something, people are like my goodness, like so whatever. And I'm like, oh, like people, like, I just, I don't know. I'm still kind of like old fashioned in that way where like, you know, I still remember the day where my friend told me about Facebook and I was like, what is this thing?
Oh Brother podcast:<laugh> right.
Speaker 2:Facebook<laugh> right. Um, so yeah, but yeah, I'm like, oh, you know, posting about a cute dog, everybody of that. So that's just easy,
Oh Brother podcast:But somebody like you, you know, a lot of people know you've cuz you work a lot. I mean, I think I counted 10 movies in 2019. Was that right?
Speaker 2:Um, so I, I think I, I shot, I think it was seven movies in 2019. Um, yeah, that was the most I'd ever done. Um, that's a lot, it was, but you know, it, I am a big believer that everything happens for a reason<laugh> and then, you know, 20, 20 hit and all that. So it was right. Um, for me at the time, without knowing, you know, what was to be, I, um, I was actually kind of like happy to have some rest, to be honest, cuz it was like a very intense 2019. And then we traveled during the holidays cuz I was already in Australia. So then, uh, Chris, my then boyfriend met me and uh, and we spent like the holidays in Australia and then we went to Bali and we just like made a trip out of it. Um, but yeah it's it was, yeah. I've, I've been able to work a lot in the last couple years. Um, it certainly wasn't like that for the first part of my career. I'll tell you that much. So yeah. I feel very lucky right now and you never, you never know what happens next.
Oh Brother podcast:Well, that's one thing we wanted to get into. I know Mike, you know, sort of the origin story, can you sort of those that don't know? Yeah, go back. We know you went to Dawson, right. Which was in Canada.
Speaker 2:Yep. Montreal.
Oh Brother podcast:Yeah. And so, so take us through that time and, and then how you, you know, you get into the movies into the TV shows, things like that.
Speaker 2:Well, I, I was in, you know, I was just a kid who did, um, doesn't have anyone in like my dad<laugh> my, uh, my dad did a couple movies when he was like in his twenties and he did like theater and stuff growing up. Um, but it was, wasn't something that he kept going like past like 25 or something like that. Um, so, but other than that, I, I don't have anyone in my family that's like in the industry or anything like that. So it was really like one of those things where Cindy's like, I'm gonna be an actor and everyone's like, what? Like
Oh Brother podcast:Right. No,<laugh>
Speaker 2:Right. That's not a thing. Um, but I was like obsessed with watching movies, like back to the future, you know, whatever Wayne's world, I, the Vara, like all these movies where I would just memorize all the lines of those movies and just like say them. And like, my family was very much, very big as like most eighties kids were probably like very big on watching television and movies. And, and so then I was in the school plays in elementary school and then in high school. And then when I was at the end of high school, people were like, you know, submitting for in Montreal, we have a thing called CJ, which is like two years of school before you go to university, cuz we only have grade 11 there. And then you go two years, which is actually a really great transition. It gets you ready for university, but that's important. Yeah. So then I, people were like, yeah, I'm gonna do chemistry. And like yada, yada, yada. And I was like, I'm gonna be an actor. How do I do that? And then I found this program, well, it was between Dawson and this school called, uh, John Abbot. And um, I think that's what it's called. And um, and then I auditioned for the program. I had no idea what, what I was doing. I've never like auditioned other than like in high school, you know? And I ended up getting in and you know, they only took, I think like it's still a public school. So they still have like a mandate of how many people that have taken. But I, I think I got, we were like 90 students and they, at the end when we graduated, we were like 22 or something. Wow. Yeah. So it was a very rigorous program. It really gets you ready in a way to like what the industry is about because anyone who's been on a set, it's not, you know, it's not, not all glitz and glamor. Like people think it is. Um, but hurry, hurry up and wait. Yes. Yes, exactly. And uh, yeah, so I, I did that program and then when I was in my second year, at the end, we had a project that we had to do where we had to go meet someone in the industry. Um, I was like, I don't know anyone in the industry. And our teachers were like, you know, you gotta make some phone calls and like put yourself out there. And I was like of kind of shy about that. I was like, oh, like I don't, I don't wanna like meet someone. I, I don't know how to meet them. Like they don't care about me, some theater school, you know, whatever. And, and that, I remember my teacher, I totally like cheated on this. My teacher was like, it's like, oh, you could go try to meet someone in the industry. And let's say, you know, they blow you off or they cancel on you or whatever. Then you can write about that experience. And I was like done. That's what I'm doing. I'm gonna pretend like I met someone in the industry.<laugh> and uh, and so I remember dropping off my headshot and resume at, at an agency, uh, in Montreal. And I had no idea what I was doing. I was like, hi, I'm just dropping off my headshot, resume resume. Literally had like theater school student and like high school play. And um, and then I dropped it off and they were like, oh, we're actually like, not looking for anyone right now. And you know, I'd like made myself cute and everything. And I was like, cool, cool. You're not looking for anyone. Great, awesome. No problem. See you later. Bye, bye. Now. And I like left and then I remember the next day, I, I think I had like maybe a pager back then. I don't know, but I, uh,<laugh> I got a message from them and I called them back and they're like, yeah, we actually have an audition for you if you'd like to go for a show. And I was like,
Oh Brother podcast:What?<laugh> that's I don't that that's not part of the plan. No, that's not part of
Speaker 2:The plan. So then I went to the audition. I did it. No idea. Like it was probably awful, but then I found out, I think it was the next day or so that I got the part, which like, let's be honest, doesn't really happen. Like, I just wanted say that that's not how it works. Right. But, um, I ended up getting it, but then when the show shot, it was like during my last week of school during all my exams and my school was so strict that like, if you missed a day, you were like in trouble, unless you were like, basically dying. Like you always went to school because that's how the industry is anyway. Right? Like if you're sick, like, well, the not now, but when you were back then, right, you go to work. And so anyway, I, I had to turn it down and I was kind of like bummed out. And then I ended up getting a call and they're like, well, they actually found a part for you in the next episode. So you could do that. And I was like, what? Wow. So I did that. It was like four days of work<affirmative> and um, I ended up signing with that agent and I pro I don't think I worked again for like maybe two years, because then I finished school and I was like, I can't miss school. I remember getting my pay first paycheck though for that. And I was like, I didn't even know like how much I was gonna get paid or anything. I remember getting, I was like, whoa, this is amazing.
Oh Brother podcast:<laugh> time to upgrade that pager.<laugh>
Speaker 2:Yeah. Then I got one of those flip phones.
Oh Brother podcast:<laugh> the big, the big wall street. Eighties phone. Yeah.
Speaker 2:My dad had one of those.
Oh Brother podcast:They're pretty, that's funny.
Speaker 2:So that's like the very short version, even though it seems really
Oh Brother podcast:Long. So how long after that is it that you get the gig on Heartland?
Speaker 2:Um, so I graduated theater school in 2003 and I, I basically didn't, I didn't work during that 2003. So that was in 2002, my first job, 2003. I didn't work 2004. I mostly didn't work, but I think I got like a little part or so, but Heartland, the, I auditioned for in 2007, uh, 2007. Yeah, 2000, no, 2006. And then I think we got picked up in 2007 for the first season. So like couple years.
Oh Brother podcast:Hmm. And that's still, that's still going
Speaker 2:In season.
Oh Brother podcast:That's incredible. Not, I knows. Not incredible. And you were what? Like seven seasons, like,
Speaker 2:So I was four, uh, like almost full seasons. And then I came back for, I think it was two episodes in 2000, uh, sorry. In the sixth season.
Oh Brother podcast:So now did you do some of that equestrian work or how did, how did that?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I, uh, so when I found out that I got the part, um, I didn't have to write in the pilot, but then as soon as I found out that the show was actually picked up, I was like, oh my goodness. Like, I'm supposed to be like this competitive writer, but it wasn't like a, a pre-write for the job. Um, so, but it was for the role of Amy who was, uh, played by Amber Marshall. And so I remember immediately like on my own dime, going and taking lessons and doing the whole like ranch life and that kind of thing. And, um, and yeah, and then I, that way I felt like more comfortable around horses. And then we shot the first season and then they also gave us some lessons, like on some days off and things. Um, but we always had stunt, uh, stunt coordinators and, and stunt, uh, people doing the stuff because it, first of all, it's not worth the risk of like your actor, even Amber, who is, and a very, uh, very, uh, skilled writer had a stunt double as well, because, you know, you break, you, you do one false move, you break your arm and then the whole season is, is messed
Oh Brother podcast:Up. Right, right, right. We've, we've talked about on the show before, or Mike has mentioned that the, the famous WC fields quote of, you know, never work with children or animals and you've done all of, you've done all of that in your, your career. I really have.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I really have.
Oh Brother podcast:Um, would you, would you give that same warning<laugh> having done that?
Speaker 2:Honestly, I would say for the most part animals, typically the ones that find themselves on set are probably more skilled than most actors<laugh>.
Oh Brother podcast:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Not most actors, but you know, they, they, the thing is, is they come in on set only when they're ready to do the job. Like only when it's like the camera's on them. So like, anytime, you know, it's just on me, like a closeup or, you know, a two shot and the dog is on the ground. Like the dog's not there. Like the dog is chilling in the van or whatever, the, and they only bring the dog when ready. And, and it's typically similar with, uh, kids as well, depending on their age, because they only have so much energy. So you don't wanna use up their energy and their focus when not needed. Mm-hmm<affirmative>. Um, but honestly, in my experience, I'd say that's not, not completely accurate for the most part. Um, I'd probably say like kids under five are a little bit more difficult because, you know, I don't know if you guys have kids, but they have a lot of energy and all of a sudden they don't<laugh> right. Doesn't matter what you give them, what treat, if they don't wanna do something, they ain't doing it. Um, and it's kind of like that for, for dogs, too, dogs, like traits and they'll eat till they explode. So
Oh Brother podcast:<laugh>, this is true, you know, we were thinking it couldn't be anybody better to have on cuz we're, we're wrapping up this, this second season of our podcast and thought, you know, you're just the perfect person with the holiday resume that you've got on top of everything you've done. And of course we want you to talk about your, your two most recent, you know, joy for Christmas toying with the holidays, because we, you have that interaction with animals and, and uh, kids. And these, can you talk a little bit about those projects and the production and the filming and timing of all of that?
Speaker 2:Yeah. I, uh, so the first one was towing with the holidays, which was with Chad Michael Murray mm-hmm<affirmative>. And, um, we actually shot that in August of this year and that was shot in, uh, in north bay, Ontario. So I had actually never been there. It's a very like cute small town, probably it's like four hours from Toronto. Um, and it was so hot.<laugh> like really, we actually went through a bit of a heat wave, like typically, like Ontario's quite like muggy, like very east coast vibes. But, um, they, they said in north bay, usually it's not that hot. And we just were, are going through a heat wave wearing all of our winter gear, making it look like Christmas, right. With
Oh Brother podcast:The snow and everything. Yeah,
Speaker 2:Totally. Um, but yeah, it was, it was so fun. I had such a blast, um, you know, Callum Shoniker who plays my son is such a, like, is such a, like a, a talented young guy and he's um, yeah, I had a lot of fun, you know, I haven't had the opportunity to play a lot of moms in my career yet. So the few times I have it's, it's quite a special experience. And, um, and yeah, and Chad, you know, I mean, he's been around forever and like such a, a well known, you know, performer and, uh, and it was really cool. Like I really enjoyed working with him. He's such a professional on, you know, like a different level. Like he, he's just like super prepared, super like in it. And like really like, you know, he has a lot of, um, a lot of great ideas and he loves working with the director and with you, and, and I love that. Like, I'm such a collaborator. So, um, I really enjoyed, and then, uh, Bradley Walsh was our director and mm-hmm<affirmative>, he was the best, like such a funny guy, like loves to just like, you know, okay, do your version, do my version. Then we'll do the script version sort of thing, like that kind of fun stuff. And I love working like that. Um, I love improv. I love all that. So, um, really enjoyed working with him super artistic guy. And I remember he had called me right before we started shooting like a week before I got into town and we had like an hour long conversation, just like connecting and really, you know, understanding each other's work ethics. Cause a lot of times, you know, you're just like these move movies are shot in so little time, like three weeks and, and you just don't have time, um, usually before and in between. So it's like, go, go, go, go, go. And like, right. When you they're setting up for one scene, you go and maybe rehearsal lines for the next scene that you're gonna do. Um, or, you know, try to figure things out, do some blocking just to gain some time. And, and mm-hmm,<affirmative> do the best you can with the time you have. And so, you know, you said, hurry up and wait. But a lot of in these types of movies, um, especially when you're a lead it's, there is no waiting<laugh> yeah. It's like, it's intense. Like it's, while they're setting up, you're either rehearsing, running lines, getting touched up changing, like it's, it's, it's a whirlwind. And, uh, I oftentimes need just as much time, uh, that it took to make the movie to decompress for making the movie it's and it's, it's an incredible experience. It's just, it's just intense.
Oh Brother podcast:Well, I was gonna, I was wondering your process for that. How do you with these two? So when was joy for Christmas shot? Yeah. So
Speaker 2:Then, um, joy for Christmas was shot in October. Um, wow. Was it October? Yeah, it was October. Um, so that is
Oh Brother podcast:A tight shoot.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Pardon me?
Oh Brother podcast:That is a tight shoot. Yes. Ready for Christmas. And how does that, how does that influence or impact your, your process, you know, to, to bring something different to that character versus that you just spent however much time getting into?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, mean, thankfully I got, you know, a good month in between both and it's really important for me in between jobs, if I can to like really disconnect and just be like a normal human being and reconnect with my people and, and, you know, and, and just be home and, and decompress, even though decompressing is, is a little bit of a, of a task. I'm, I'm quite a doer, but, um, it's important because for me to disconnect from that project become Cindy again, and then reconnect to the other thing. And, um, yeah, you know, you just find little tricks along the way, you know? Um, but yeah, meditation is like a big one for me and, um, and you know, just moving my body and like getting back into my body, like letting go of that energy, not letting it be stagnant. Um,
Oh Brother podcast:I was gonna ask you that too, about self care. And it's funny, you said meditation, because I think don't you, aren't you telling Sam page who, who starts with you in that at one point? Like breathing. Yeah. How to, yeah,
Speaker 2:That was honestly when I, when I read that, I mean, we, we changed it up a little bit and when I read that, I was like, oh, okay. Yeah, this is like, totally my vibe. Like I was like, can I get some crystals now? Maybe I'll say,
Oh Brother podcast:Yeah. I'm like, she knows, she knows what she's talking about here. This is an acting, you know, it could tell.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no had, um, yeah, joy for Christmas was such a great experience. Like Sam page is honestly like, definitely my top favorite co-star is like, he's such a, just like, just did like a really great human mm-hmm<affirmative> who is an actor and just like, does the job, but that like, isn't, he's not the job, you know what I mean? Mm-hmm<affirmative> um, and I, and I really appreciate and, and love that. Um, and, uh, yeah, I really loved. And then pat Williams, who is our director, who's been in street for like 35 years. He's done a bunch of sci-fi like, that's like his thing. And then he started doing like a little bit more of like these romcom thing, like movies and, and, uh, but he's again, and, and actually, and interestingly enough, he and Bradley Walsh the one who directed toy with the holidays. Mm-hmm<affirmative> they like know each other from like back in the day in Toronto. Wow. And pat was actually telling me that he had like mentored Bradley, and I was like, this is like so cool, like full circle. And, um, yeah, I really loved working on joy for Christmas. I also really loved the, the theme of it about, you know, yes. It's about, you know, get a toy drive back up and running and, you know, giving kids something for the holidays. But I think for me, it's, it's reminding all of us that, you know, Christmas is, is not just about the, the gifts and like going and spending a ton of money. It's like about giving back to the community. And, and I just, I, I really, um, um, like connect with that. And, uh, because sometimes I think there's so much pressure put on that during the holidays that, uh, people feel less than if they can't offer those things to their kids. And like, for me, my love language is quality time. So I'm like give like a couple, like a jar of activities that we can do throughout the year. And I'm like, yes, like, this is what I'm about. Um, so I really love the theme of that movie. And, uh, yeah, we had a lot of fun and that was shot in Vancouver,
Oh Brother podcast:In Vancouver. Yeah. And the chemistry on screen was just, it is just great, you know, it's great. Well, you, you have it with every, you know, I've noticed I don't, we watched a lot of your movie movies. We did like a pretty deep dive. Oh, wow. Yeah. And we're gonna talk about my, my, my husband's killer girlfriend in a minute. Yeah, no, I know I wanted to, I do, because you were so different than that and, uh, mm-hmm<affirmative> and you got a pretty good right hook and it was the actress. I forget. Her name was, uh, was Chelsea, was it, was it Chelsea?
Speaker 2:Oh, oh yeah. Chelsea. Yeah. She was in, uh, the show the hundred.
Oh Brother podcast:Wow. Yeah. And you had to punch her, I think a couple of times. Yeah. One of them
Speaker 2:Was all over the place with, with, uh, getting people out of her way.<laugh> a lot of pushing and
Oh Brother podcast:<laugh> right. One of them looked like it was like, you went back for more, it wasn't in the script. You were like, I'm getting another shot in on her.<laugh> I mean, is how different, you know, when you're playing a character like that, um, you're very expressive when you act, so it comes out, but it comes out in just such a different way.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Um, I don't know. I, you know, I maybe, uh, some of that comes from just like my, you know, I, I think every actor has their own, every actor is its own human being and you're always gonna feed off of what you know, and who you are. And that's what makes every actor unique in their own way. And why someone, you know, gets the role more than the other. It's not because they're necessarily a bad actor or anything like that. It's just that they brought something different and, and, you know, the team connected with that. And, um, I don't know. I guess I just have this innate energy within me. That's just diff a high, a, a higher, bigger energy. I don't know. Yeah.
Oh Brother podcast:Well, we can see it now when we're talking to you. It's, it's, it's it's, you know, like you're no different it's, it's not like, it it's really, it's really good.
Speaker 2:I, I, I guess a lot of it too is, um, I'm just someone who wears like their heart on their sleeve. I, I, I really, I, uh, it's hard for me to not show when I'm like annoyed or upset or whatever. Like it's just all there because I'm just, I'm just very, to my emotions and, and, uh, sometimes it's overwhelming, but it's also a really, I think a really beautiful thing, um, to be able to access that as an actor, because mm-hmm,<affirmative>, that's what it's about. It's about telling story through mm-hmm<affirmative>, you know, and, and I think the biggest thing is like, as humans, we're always doing something for a reason, you know, and we're reacting because of something, not necessarily that's in front of us, but because of something we've gone through in the past or whatever, you know, as, as humans, we're always acting and reacting from what we know mm-hmm<affirmative>. And, um, and that's what makes everybody so unique because we have these stories within our body that, you know, we're able to live off of. If
Oh Brother podcast:That makes sense. Yeah, no, it does. And, and that's the thing your body doesn't know you're playing make believe. Oh yeah. So when you talk about decompressing, if you do something and you're yelling at someone, and then all of us sudden, you know, it's cut you, your body's like, you were just yelling at that person. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Like in the, my husband's killer girlfriend, the, the interrogation scene. Yes. Um, I remember specifically that one was, I mean, that was a big scene. It was like five pages. And I remember being very, like, nervous about it because whenever there was like a ton of dialogue, it's like, because you don't want the dialogue to take away from what the motivation is. Right. Mm-hmm<affirmative> so that's why it's like so important to know your dialogue really well, because if you don't, then you're in your head and not in your heart, and then you're not telling the truth of the story. Right. And, um, and with that, like I remembered that scene, like to get into that, like typically when I'm in those kinds of scenes where it's like very emotional, very like, um, jarring and it like really, I, I, I can't really, like, I don't, I, I choose not to connect with other people. I, I sleep self. Um, and I, I try not to make like much eye contact and I, I try to stay in my zone and, and, you know, and, and I think also because people know me so well at that point where they know like who Cindy is, and then when she goes into that space, people like really on set, really respect that. And they're like, oh, she's like doing a thing. And like, we're not gonna mess with leave her alone. Yeah. Yeah. And for me, that's my process. That's what works well for me. Um, and then when I do connect with the actor that I'm in the scene with, it's just like, boom. And like you said, your body doesn't know any different. And so like, sometimes like in those scenes, like, I'll be like, my body will be shaking. I'll, I'll like, I'll feel it like tingling my fingers, my heart's pounding. Um, you know, it's, it's all, it's all just happening to me. And then afterwards, sometimes I just need to like, like, just breathe it out and right. And, and just let it out. And, and sometimes, you know, you're like crying in the scene and then you walk away from the scene and you're still like crying and you're just like trying to catch your breath. And yeah. Yeah. It it's an interest. It's very, we're very, it's being an actor is weird.<laugh>,
Oh Brother podcast:You know, it's, it's so, I'm so glad that you talked about that scene cuz it was intense and I, yeah. I kept thinking, um, Harrison Ford in the fugitive, I, it was evoking that scene in that when he's being in and um, I was on sort of accidentally, there was a film production at the college I was working at at the, I still work there actually. Yeah. And it was, uh, Cuba, Gooding, junior Anthony Hopkins and Donald Sutherland. And I remember watching Cuba, Gooding junior in between scenes, he would go into, they were in the office, we worked in and he would go to a door of one of the offices and just be staring into the window, like the glass of the door silent, you know? So when you talk about isolating and stepping away and not making eye contact, it was really fascinating too. Yeah. Observe that behavior. Totally.
Speaker 2:And, and you know, it's, uh, some people are able to turn it on like a tap, like no problem. Um, I, I know for me it needs to be a visceral experience. Like I, I don't like faking things. Like I'm not, I try and, and that's not a judgment to anybody else. It's just like my thing, if I don't feel it, then I can't do it.<laugh> yeah. And, and if it, you know, and I will work at it until like, it it's there and, um, and yeah, it's, and, and sometimes, you know, I think sometimes actors get a bad rap. Um, because if they're going, if they're doing such an intense, like Harrison Ford in that movie, like, I can't imagine he was like at craft services, shooting it up with like talking, you know, whatever with the, the crew members. And, and I love, I love connecting with crew members. I think they're such a Rio. I've had so many incredible moments, but sometimes I just can't because I have to do like those scenes and, and then sometimes, you know, the scene is like a nice fun comedy scene. So I'm like, great. Like I don't need to, I'm good. But sometimes I think actors can get a bad rap if they're not like being what you want them to be in scenes sort of thing. Yeah. Cause they have to stay in that zone and, and I can understand how that would be a difficult thing to understand for some people, um,
Oh Brother podcast:Yeah, we felt like that about Donald Sutherland on that, that set, because he was very stoic and very, but as you said, if you're not in that world, you can't relate and he was just, he's working. He's working
Speaker 2:Totally to exactly. Exactly. It's um, yeah,
Oh Brother podcast:It is, you know, each production is like its own family too. Mm-hmm<affirmative>, which is kinda, you know, for you to go from one to another to another, like you said, you really need some downtime. Yeah. And cuz you go from one family, then you're meeting a new family and the whole thing starts again and you know, that's gotta be pretty difficult.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah. I, I reference it as like a, a breakup. It's like a, yeah. It's honestly it's a heartache every time people often ask me, like, what's the hard, what's the best about being an actor? What's the, the hardest part. And for me, the hardest part is honestly saying goodbye to these people that I have, you know, some people I'm very happy to say goodbye to I'm like ever<laugh>, but, but for the most part, like 99, 90 8% of the time I am the last day, like I'm just, I, I'm kind of like very nervous for that last scene because I know what's coming and then, you know, people get like wrapped out and I always get emotional at the end because it's also a reminder. Like I feel emotional right now just talking about it. It's like, you know, a, a reminder of something I wanted my whole life and I'm doing it and we're, and, and we're all doing it. Like all of the crew, the casting crew, we're all doing it. We all had this vision and we're all doing it and all created this thing together. It's not like me making it happen. It's not just the director. It's literally everyone. Cause without that one person, we don't have it. And I know because we've had times where someone's had to leave the, the, the crew like has to like left the project because you know, they were well or an emergency or whatever. And you feel that, that, uh, that missing piece mm-hmm<affirmative> um, and you know, you may do, but it's, it's such a, I think that that's part of the, the mourn process for me is it's, uh, I'm grateful it happened, but I, I, I wish it didn't have to end. And, and you know, and as an actor you kind of have, have this or anyone maybe in the industry where you have this thing, you're like, well, I just work for three weeks and now I might never work again. I don't know.<laugh> you just, you don't know when the next time you'll work. It doesn't matter how many times you work. I feel like you still, like, you have this PTSD inside where you're like, well, it's been two weeks, I guess I'm never working again. You're like Kate chill.
Oh Brother podcast:Right. It's a pretty unique, it's a pretty unique job in that sense, because, you know, unless you have things lined up up for the next two years, you just don't know. Yeah. You know what, two years, and that kind of leads into the whole COVID thing, you know, how did that hit you? Cause so many, uh, productions were shut down and so many people were outta work and mm-hmm<affirmative> uh, the industry was really, I mean last year was a tough year for movies,
Speaker 2:For sure. Yeah. Um, you know, I, I, I finished a movie, um, love in the forecast with, uh, Christie will and, and Christopher Russell, um, in February of 2020. So I had just come home from Vancouver, um, when things started to, to go sideways and, um, and so, you know, obviously nobody understood. And like I said, like I had just had a big 2019 and then I did that movie. So I was kind of like, oh, okay, well, you know, if I don't work for like, you know, two months, like it's not the end of the world, like I can deal with that, but you know, things kept going and going. And, um, and then in Vancouver, things were like, they stopped, but they kind of kept going, like things were, um, a little bit better over there. So, um, lucky enough as a Canadian, like I was able to go down there. And so I ended up doing a job, um, August, uh, chasing waterfalls. And I would say the biggest difference was like a lot more of the movies and shows were filmed primarily outside mm-hmm<affirmative>. So that was, um, that was a big difference. Um, from previous experiences where a lot more things were storylines were about being outside, so, you know, fresh air, et cetera. And then also, um, casts and crews were a lot smaller. So it was a lot more of an intimate experience. Um, keeping,
Oh Brother podcast:You know, spacing and stuff must
Speaker 2:Have been yeah. S pacing, you know, the, the stuff that we all know of. Um, but yeah, it was a, it was a lot more an intimate experience, which was also like really cool because, you know, I felt like almost like summer camp in a way where you're just like, okay, like, like gorilla style, like we're making a movie, you know, and there's like th you know, three, like five actors in the movie instead. So, but I will say as an actor, it was a little bit more challenging because there weren't as many actors in the projects. Right. You had a lot more dialogue<laugh>
Oh Brother podcast:Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2:Yeah. So I was like, oh boy, okay, here we go. But, um, but yeah, it was, it was done in a, a, in a very, you know, wonderful way. And, um, and, you know, we did, everybody was doing the best they can. And, um, I, I personally wasn't part of anything that like needed to be shut down or anything like that. Although I did have friends that, uh, were a part of that, so, um, yeah. You know, you just, uh, life hands you things, and you just gotta keep on keeping on and find and adapt, you know? So, um, yeah, that's my
Oh Brother podcast:Experience. Were you into that as a kid? Were you in the backyard with the eight millimeter camera making movies, you know, home movies and things, or
Speaker 2:No. No, I wasn't. I, what I did, I, I loved writing stories and, um, and I also did a lot of, like, I was very much into like, uh, imagination stuff. Like I would do a lot of, um, I love like playing with like dolls and things and like telling story, like, I guess, like living the story through like the, the dolls and stuff. And also, um, I would wear costumes. Like, I, I would take like a big blanket and wrap it around my waist and use a belt to like, hold it up and then like walk around, like playing like a character, like looking in the mirror and like practicing speeches and stuff like that.<laugh>
Oh Brother podcast:So does that, yeah. Is, would you wanna get it behind the camera at some point?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I, I could definitely see that happening at some point. Um, I, I, I don't know how, and I don't know what that looks like at the moment, but I, uh, I certainly would love, I really I've, I've worked with actors in the past, like, um, with auditions and, and, uh, kind of like, um, you know, helping them discover things about story and their path and, and, uh, I, I really love, I really love actors and I really love, like, that's why I love it when a director like plays around with me and like is like getting into the nitty gritty stuff. Yeah. Um, and I love doing that with other people too. Um, so I could see myself like, you know, maybe directing down the road or producing. Um, but yeah, right now this is, this is where I'm at. And I kind of, I'm a big believer in just, um, allowing like the flow of light to guide me wherever I'm meant to be. You know, I think as an actor, you try to like, make things happen for yourself constantly in the moment. Like I just kind of chose to surrender and be like, okay, whatever's meant for me, well is gonna happen anyway. Mm-hmm,<affirmative>, um, you know, if you believe in that kind of thing, and, and I feel like the more you kind of like try to make it happen, the more it doesn't happen. And then the more I was like, you know what, whatever. And then it's like, oh, okay, this is working for me. Just
Oh Brother podcast:Let the universe take over. Yes.
Speaker 2:I'm all about, yeah. The ebbs and flows and, and appreciating the moments in between the jobs now more than ever, because I I'm a big believer in that those moments are what make you the better actor that you can be. And I never appreciated that in, you know, in my twenties and, and maybe early thirties. So, um, so yeah, it's nice to, to appreciate that.
Oh Brother podcast:Now I'm curious about, you know, you've been fortunate enough to work with, with some really big names and I almost didn't recognize you. We talked about doing a deep dive. I was watching some of Cedar Cove yes. With one of our favorite Andie MacDowell. Who's just amazing Groundhog day. And, you know, sex lies and video tape. and Maid, I dunno, you saw Maid,
Speaker 2:Oh my goodness.
Oh Brother podcast:She's amazing. Unreal. I have good one, so good. But you, you, you you've, you've been in lead and supporting roles, so it is that, is that a different process? How, how, if so, how, if, you know, that's just, I'm curious. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean, I think there is a different process as far as being a supporting role. Like, I, I often think the supporting roles, um, sometimes we'll have like a bit more of the nitty gritty stuff. And, and I say that loving both sides of it. I, uh, because they're like the, the, the leads are often just like driving the story right. Depending on, on the project. Of course. And then the supporting characters I think are just as integral to the story. Um, and, uh, I really, I don't have an ego about playing a supporting role. I love playing, supporting roles. I think I've had some of my favorite roles be supporting roles. Um, you know, like I just did a movie called honey girls and I played and I'm like, that was like one of favorite experiences, especially doing comedy. That's like where my heart is. And I love it so much. And sometimes I think some of the most iconic roles we're supporting around, like Paul Giamatti like, he's one of my favorite, like, love that guy. And he's like, he's, he's made supporting roles, like a thing, like that's just like, right. You know? And, and, um, yeah, I think that there's definitely like the process in it of itself is the same kind of, it's just, you're adding a different flavor to the recipe.
Oh Brother podcast:Yeah. I was wondering, we talked about honey girls before you came on. And, and I was wondering if you were, there was the scene, you fell in the pool and came out and you said something to your daughter. She, she had just decided to become a, like a fashion designer. And, um, I was wondering if you were like an mentor to the younger women, you know, cuz you have worked so much, did they look to you for, you know, you know, Hey, uh, you know,
Speaker 2:It's, it's interesting because like, you know, I'm come like I'm coming off of having a, you know, a very big resume and 20 years in the industry. And again, like I'm not walking around being like, I don't know if you know this, but uh,<laugh>, I've done a lot of things and let me teach you right now. Hey, listen kid. Okay. He is what's gonna happen.<laugh> Um, but, um, no, I just, you know, I don't know. I just walk in like, like a, like Cindy Busby. I, and I just do the thing. Um, I would say sometimes like, okay, so as a, as a lead actor in, in the movies that I'm a part of, it's my privilege to be able to, um, do the work I'm doing, but then also be a supporting anchor for everybody else on set specifically actors mm-hmm<affirmative>. So I always, if someone's new that day, you know, if they're like a, like a day player, I will go up to them and be like, hi, I'm Cindy, you know, really nice to meet you. Let me know if you ever wanna run lines or anything. Like, I really make myself available for other actors. Nice. And, um, and I make it very clear to them that like we're on the same team and you know, we're not there's yes. There's a number thing on a call sheet, but like we're all in this together. Mm-hmm<affirmative> and, and you know, if, and sometimes cuz I've been in, I've been in those scenarios, like I have been there where I'm like thirsty, but I'm like shy to ask for a bottle of water or like, you know, I don't know where lunch is or like I'm, I'm, I'm shy to be like, oh, I have to go to the bathroom or whatever. And so I'll be like, if I'm thirsty, I'll be like, Hey, um, excuse me, can I, can I get a, a bottled water please? Cuz it's hard for me to leave, set, like, cause I'm always on and I'll be like, Hey, uh, Joe, do you, do you want some water? Yeah. Can we get to, you know, so I'll like, cause I, again, I know what it it's like. And, and it's, it's really just about sh showing up and, and, and kind of like passing down that kind of vibe because yeah, one day I'll be number 26 and they'll be number 20. Uh, they'll be number one. And if, if I could, you know, pass that down from what I've learned, then, then for me, that's like what it's about. So to go back to honey girls, like, that's kind of what I was doing as number 26, but also allowing like them to do their own thing where I'm like, not gonna be like, but I remember, you know, a, a couple times, like some of the girls were like cold and they weren't asking for like their warmup jacket and were like rehearsing and I'll be like, Hey, do you want your warmup? Can we get our warmup jacket? Yeah. And people are kinda like, who's this chick like, excuse, you know,<laugh> and I'm like, I'm like, I don't mean to like ruffle feathers, but like I know what it's like to like be on said and cause a lot of the, the young, the young actresses, there were like very excited to be there, but very new and, and you know, I, I guess that's mentoring, but not really. Like, I, I choose to like, not it's a, it's hard sometimes, but I choose not to go in the business. That is not mine
Oh Brother podcast:Right's they came to you. I could see having no problem.
Speaker 2:Totally. And, and you know, we, we like had a good time and we had great conversations and you know, we, I, I was like the old lady<laugh><laugh> in the movie. It was so funny. That's uh, that's funny where I was like, I remember bringing my book and I was reading both. Was I reading, oh, I, I think I was reading this surrender experiment or something. And I was reading that and they're like, what are you reading? And I was like, oh, it's a surrender experiment. Like what? And you know, meanwhile, they're like hanging out in the bedroom, like, you know, pillow fight kind of thing. And like, not, not really, but you know, just like hanging out, it's like summer camp or having fun. And I'm been there. It's so fun. But I was, I wasn't also like, Hey guys, wanna hang out, like, let's do the thing. And I'd be like, just on my chair outside. So I was like, they're probably like, who's this like chick who wants to hang out with, I was like, I didn't wanna be, you know, um, what's her name in mean girls where she's like, I'm not any mom, I'm a cool mom. Like<laugh>,
Oh Brother podcast:You know, other one I, I needed to ask you about was the Darcy. You did two of those and it's, it's not the Darcy from Jane Austin. Right. But it's, it's like an homage to him. Yes,
Speaker 2:Exactly.
Oh Brother podcast:So you did two unleashing Mr. Darcy and then marrying Mr. Darcy, which became the number one. When it, when it aired, it was like the June weddings. And it was the number one of all time on hallmark. Yeah. That must
Speaker 2:Have been huge unleashing. Mr. Darcy was in January and then yeah. And then the marrying was in June. Yeah. Yeah.
Oh Brother podcast:So, and I heard there was a third part to it. Is that true? Or do you know about that?
Speaker 2:Um, there was like a lot of rumors about it. I mean, obviously the fans would absolutely love that. Yeah. Yeah. I just did. I was just in Jersey for Christmas con and that's definitely the number one question that was asked, uh, to me. Right. Um, and like, and I saw Ryan Paevy, who's my co-star. Um, and he was there and we, you know, we talked about it and he's like, do you know, like, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, no. And, and we both looked at each other, we're like, we're down. Like, just tell us where to sign. Like we're, we're totally down to do it obviously with schedules and stuff. Right. But it's just a matter of, you know, there's a lot of behind the scenes, things that like are beyond our control, like, you know, hallmark saying yes to it. Mm-hmm,<affirmative> the people who in the rights to it saying yes to it finding the right time, finding the script. Like it's, it's a lot more complicated than just me and Ryan saying yes. Like I wish I wish it wasn't, but that's, you know, as we know, I would think
Oh Brother podcast:Because of the success it did so well, I know, I would think, wow, they would've jumped right on it, but totally.
Speaker 2:You know, at this point it's been like three years. It's been, so I'm kind of like, well, we better get on the third one soon. Otherwise it's gonna be like grandma and grandpa Darcy.<laugh>
Oh Brother podcast:Taking care of Mr. Darcy's Grandchildren. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Darcy, Donovan you know, I don't think that's a hallmark version though.
Oh Brother podcast:Oh, so is that cuz we were isn't um, GAC family, which was that's for joy for Christmas aired, right? Yes. And, um, wasn't isn't the, the, the owner of that didn't they used to be with hallmark and mm-hmm<affirmative> as there a competitive thing going on
Speaker 2:Now. Yeah. So, um, bill Abbot is the president Abbot of G family and he was once the president of hallmark. And um, I mean, I guess there's some sort of competition of some, I mean, listen, like anytime you're gonna be creating something of the same Cal like the, the same vibe, you're gonna obviously have some sort of competition if you would. But I think that there's enough demand out there for this kind of content, especially now more than ever, because people wanna feel good. People want something that they know they can count on that they can watch with their entire families. Right. Um, um, and so I, I'm a big believer that there's room for everyone and uh, yeah, I don't particularly see it as a competition, but I'm, I'm sure some people certainly heard a lot of things behind the scenes and stuff of people saying like, you know, this person's moved on to here and this person has gone there and it's like, who's gonna be next. Like, you know, and it's like, I don't know. I, I, I don't really see it. Like I've my entire career. Like, yes, I've worked for hallmark, but I've worked for lifetime. And now I just did a GAC family. And then I just did Sony pictures, entertainment through, you know, honey girls. Like my entire career has been all over the place. Mm-hmm<affirmative> so I, I, I guess I've always seen it in a different way. Um, but people tend to get attached to certain things and, and that's fine. Like, that's great, but it's not, you know, 19 fif forties where, you know, you get like a big studio, five picture deal, you know, like Marilyn Monroe or whatever. And, um, but that is the case for some people where they are, you know, um, signed into working for specific people and, and that's great. Um, right now that's not the case for me, so, but I don't know what the future holds and I'm open to whatever.
Oh Brother podcast:Now would you, would you would wanna leave yourself open to work? Yeah. With everyone.
Speaker 2:I mean, listen, I'm, I'm a, a self-employed actor. Like I I'm gonna, you know, I need to pay my rent<laugh> too. Yeah. So I, uh, I'm gonna, if there's a really great opportunity that comes my way and I, and it works for me and it aligns with me that I'm gonna say yes.
Oh Brother podcast:Yeah. So, so when you get through the holidays, now what's on the other side of that. Do you have
Speaker 2:Anything? I don't have anything. Yeah. I don't have anything right now. There is a movie that I did in, um, in actually the beginning of 2021 in March, uh, with Christopher Russell and Christie will. Um, and we, that has not come out yet. So that'll likely come out in 20, 22. Um, I'm not sure when yet the date and the details haven't come out yet, but I'm super excited for people to see this cuz that's like, I mean, I've done a couple movies with them now and like we have such a great chemistry and people love seeing us together. So I'm looking forward to that coming out. And uh, and then, you know, the rest is kind of up in the air and like I said, I'm just kind of allowing it to, to, to just be and to manifest itself. And in the meantime, I'm just enjoying living my life and being with my fan and, and you know, I used to have, I don't know, like kind of like shame in saying that sort of thing where it's like, if I didn't have a project ready to like go, I'd be like, oh yeah, I don't know. And I'm gonna work next. And now I just embrace it all. Cuz again, like everything is, is working out perfectly.
Oh Brother podcast:Now we know why, uh, one of your friends, Karissa Lee staples is such a fan of yours because, aw I love Karissa, you guys give off such a similar energy, you know, positive. And so, but she was like, yeah, I can't wait to listen in, you know, because we told her you were gonna, we were gonna chat, oh my gosh,
Speaker 2:Amazing. I can't believe you're keeping this gem like till now out and tell me, I love Karissa. She is a dear friend of mine. We've you know, we've uh, gosh, we've known each other since 2017, I guess. Yes. Since we did our, our movie and uh, yeah, she's, she's um, she's a really inspiring, um, woman and I, I am grateful to have her as a friend she's really, she's super talented and such a good human.
Oh Brother podcast:Well, it's nice to, as you said, this, this work that you're putting out with these two films, which we want you to promote again, the, the, the two, cause aren't they re airing tomorrow cuz we're talking yeah. Year Eve,
Speaker 2:Eve, but yeah, they're they're I, I, to be honest, I don't really know all the details<laugh> so when they're airing, um, but they have been reaing them several times. Um, because people are still in the, you know, the holiday spirit and people are still watching the movies and if they're anything like me, they don't want the holiday season to end. So they're like keep playing these movies. Um, but yeah, G um, on GAC family, uh, I have joy for Christmas and then, um, toying with the holidays with chad Michael Murray on lifetime, which, which, uh, they're both like so unique and different, but like such, such like fun, like feel good, feel
Oh Brother podcast:Good movies, you know, I gotta say too joy for Christmas. Like, are those the best names ever? Holly silver and Jack Kane. I mean, come on.<laugh> it's it's just so perfect. Like Gary is<laugh> that's so perfect.
Speaker 2:Yeah, totally. Actually my character's name initially was supposed to be Noel. Um, and I, I was, and then they ch and my sister, uh, played by Erin boyes. She was gonna be Holly. And then they changed my name to Holly, and then they're like, oh, her name is Eve. And I was like, okay, this is amazing. But also like, silver is like such a good last name. And then the silver bells ball, the silver
Oh Brother podcast:Bells like,
Speaker 2:Say that 12 times, like silver bells balls<laugh>. Um, but yeah, it was very, I mean, Jack Kane is just like, I'm Jack Kane. Like, I just feel like he's like some sort of like James Bond
Oh Brother podcast:<laugh> Hey, maybe, maybe Sam page will be the next James Bond. We could put that. Yes. Manifest that into the universe. You know, he should be he's he's got
Speaker 2:Such a handsome guy, such a like, yeah. Super talented. And like, he has been around for so long. Like when I, I didn't, you know, every time I work with someone, I always like, look them up. Obviously, even though I've heard of them and I was like, yeah, his resume. And I was like, wow, what an epic resume<laugh>
Oh Brother podcast:Well, yours is pretty as well. Exactly. Does it, does it, um, when you're doing these movies, does it put a lot of pressure on you to have like the perfect holiday yourself? It's like, everything is so perfect. You know, thinking, geez, that puts a lot of pressure on you. Something goes wrong at home with a tree, or I know.
Speaker 2:Um, yeah, I don't like I, cause I did do Christmas movies this year. Like back to back, people are like, like, oh yeah, I don't need to put up my Christmas stuff. Like I'm over Christmas. By the time it gets to Christmas. Like, and think of all these crews, like some of the crew members did like five Christmas movies this year. And they're like, especially, you know, set deck and, and props are like, we are done with<laugh>. But, uh, but I'm like more and some of them, you know, they love it, but I'm more of like, I can't, it makes me like more excited to put up all my Christmas stuff when I get home. Yeah. Um, in fact, this year, typically we wait till after American Thanksgiving, my husband's American. And typically we wait till after American Thanksgiving, but this year I was like, Nope, we're putting up the Christmas stuff before. And then, and when people came up, it was like, you know, came over for, for Thanksgiving. It was like all Christmas stuff. And I was like, this is Thanksgiving, but it also feels like a Christmas dinner
Oh Brother podcast:<laugh> so, so before we let you go settle the debate, you're a fan of the eighties you said. Right. So settle the, the debate for Mike and I die hard. Is it a Christmas movie? Yes or no. And, and what's the, the rationale.
Speaker 2:Okay. I don't know. I don't know.<laugh> I don't know who said what? So I'm very neutral. Um, but uh, I love you either way, whoever said the opposite<laugh> um, but I'm gonna go ahead and say it is a Christmas movie.<laugh>
Oh Brother podcast:I lose again, I lose again.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean? Listen, it's not a conventional Christmas movie. Right. Um, but it has Christmas decorations and it does take place during Christmas. Um, and they have Christmas music that plays. So therefore
Oh Brother podcast:Who would, who would know better than you single that's right. You are an authority on Christmas. Yeah. I mean, also
Speaker 2:I really wanna watch diehard again cuz like I just love those movies, like so good classic. Yeah. So good.
Oh Brother podcast:So how can people find you? Which we know, as you said, you love social media, so yeah. All those Instagram lives that you're gonna be doing now<laugh>
Speaker 2:Try every, every month I'm like, this is the month where I'm gonna really get out there and tell everyone what I'm doing every second of the
Oh Brother podcast:Day.<laugh> it's just you and Sue just going on walks just me
Speaker 2:And Sue. Nobody wants to see me. They just wanna see sues. It's sues. Yeah. Um, uh, yeah. I mean my primary, the thing I'm the most on is Instagram, if that means anything. Yeah. And uh, and then I also, uh, which is Cindy C I N D Y underscore B U S B Y. And then, uh, I'm on Twitter, which is the same handle, Cindy underscore Busby. And then I have a page on Facebook or whatever it's called now. And I also have, uh, a website, CindyBusby.com
Oh Brother podcast:Yes. great reels. Great reels. No, you have a lot of, yeah. You, you can find me on my website. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh, and I gotta say my char like a character I would've loved to have played is Marisa tome in my cousin Vinny, like that's like my jam. That's that's a
Oh Brother podcast:Good one. Hey, listen. You know, well you said, yeah, comedy is, is a, you know, you love comedy, so yeah. Well you, I, is this your first siblings podcast that you've done, it is? I think it is, maybe your last<laugh> don't
Speaker 2:Wanna do one of these again.
Oh Brother podcast:Yeah. Get my agent on the phone. I remember who are these two, chuckleheads. Couple of chuckleheads. No, you guys are awesome. And they were smoking the whole time. Yeah.<laugh> and, and appreciate you being yeah. Appreciate you being flexible too. Cuz I gotta imagine you've never been bumped before from an interview because of apartment maintenance.<laugh>
Speaker 2:Honestly it, it doesn't matter. And it's like I said, it's the days, so yeah. It's, it's my pleasure. And you guys are so fun and so easy to, to talk to. So that, that makes my, my job a lot easier to feel comfortable.
Oh Brother podcast:So thank you. We really, no, we really appreciate it. And, and we really were excited to, we thought it was the, uh, really a fitting way to kind of wrap up this season at this time year too. Yeah, it is. Yeah. It Dan, Dan, one's been talking about you for three months. We need to get Cindy. We, yeah. So he's the one's been chasing you. And I said, you know, she, I think she's seeing some of the Instagram stories, so maybe if I ask her, she'll be willing to come on and then boom<laugh> and we were so fortunate, so, oh yeah. Thank you. We very much try. That's right. That's right. And we'll uh, we'll tell Karissa you said hello? Yes,
Speaker 2:Yes. Yeah. I think she's taken a social media break. So good for her up to her in the new year
Oh Brother podcast:For her. Yeah. Well listen, take care of yourself. Happy holidays and have a wonderful new year too. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Happy, you know, sending you so much abundance and joy and peace in 2022. It's uh, it's gonna be awesome right back
Oh Brother podcast:At you. Bye Cindy, take care. All right. Take care.