WEBVTT 00:00:00.049 --> 00:00:07.940 Hi, and welcome to What the Phalange?! The podcast, where we watch every episode of FRIENDS discuss it, deconstruct it and fan over it. 00:00:07.998 --> 00:00:09.529 One episode at a time. 00:00:09.609 --> 00:00:11.769 My name is Emilie pronouns she and her 00:00:12.890 --> 00:00:15.820 And my name is Quinn pronouns, zie/zir, or they/them. 00:00:16.519 --> 00:00:21.829 This week, we're talking about season two, episode 10, The One With Russ. 00:00:22.089 --> 00:00:28.059 This episode aired on January 4th, 1996, also known as Quinn's six birthday, 00:00:28.820 --> 00:00:29.320 He 00:00:29.679 --> 00:00:31.030 important information. 00:00:31.329 --> 00:00:35.539 Um, it was written by Ira Ungerleider and directed by Thomas Schlamme. 00:00:35.780 --> 00:00:36.679 I think I pronounced that 00:00:36.829 --> 00:00:38.448 have, we seen Thomas Schlamme before. 00:00:38.530 --> 00:00:40.899 I don't think so because I don't ever remember having to pronounce the name. 00:00:41.179 --> 00:00:41.359 Yeah. 00:00:42.643 --> 00:00:52.154 According to IMDB, this is the episode where Monica gets back together with fun Bobby and realizes why he was always so upbeat. 00:00:52.723 --> 00:00:59.834 And Rachel starts dating a guy called Russ who bears an uncanny resemblance to Ross. 00:00:59.988 --> 00:01:00.889 Spoiler alert. 00:01:01.009 --> 00:01:02.179 It is Ross. 00:01:03.389 --> 00:01:05.899 No Ross and David Schwimmer are two different people. 00:01:05.899 --> 00:01:07.891 Emilie, as in what is not real. 00:01:08.082 --> 00:01:10.313 Ross, Ross, Ross, Ross, Russ. 00:01:11.203 --> 00:01:15.373 This is also the one where we get to Ross's for the price of one and fun. 00:01:15.373 --> 00:01:17.774 Bobby turns into sober Bobby. 00:01:18.853 --> 00:01:19.664 Let's do it. 00:01:29.245 --> 00:01:40.445 Before we get into this episode, I'm going to go ahead and do this right here right now and give a trigger warning for sobriety and drinking as well as, sexual assault and consent. 00:01:41.195 --> 00:01:43.835 Yeah, I'm going to, I'm going to do that right here, right out of the gate. 00:01:43.865 --> 00:01:44.676 Cause it's just coming. 00:01:44.760 --> 00:01:45.870 Good, good idea. 00:01:46.090 --> 00:01:49.751 So Quinn, what are your feels for this episode? 00:01:50.290 --> 00:01:50.891 Yeah. 00:01:50.921 --> 00:02:05.260 I, um, my, my feelings for this episode is like me actually having to like write notes and try to keep up with it like, holy crap, so much happens in every scene and it's just like continuously moving really, really quickly. 00:02:05.710 --> 00:02:09.670 So on a more logistics and technical side, I was just like, holy crap. 00:02:10.181 --> 00:02:12.631 So that's one, thing there's just a lot in this episode. 00:02:12.931 --> 00:02:18.420 And then there's also like a lot of things in this episode, you know? 00:02:18.471 --> 00:02:19.040 We have so many 00:02:19.282 --> 00:02:20.483 it's a dense script. 00:02:20.756 --> 00:02:21.746 yeah, yeah. 00:02:21.776 --> 00:02:23.276 There, we have like a lot of jokes. 00:02:23.306 --> 00:02:25.526 We have a lot of things happening. 00:02:25.915 --> 00:02:31.186 Um, a lot of things happening that have a lot of deeper connotations that are going on. 00:02:31.575 --> 00:02:40.765 Um, and then we have the classic thing that friends likes to do, which is some like gender role stuff, but then sometimes reversing them. 00:02:41.126 --> 00:02:56.385 And so we have Joey, who is in a situation that, I feel like new light over the years has shed on this, particularly in the, film industry, around the me too movement. 00:02:56.836 --> 00:03:06.436 And, um, essentially like people only being able to like, get parts by sleeping with people and they sort of reversed it here where Joey is the one that has to sleep with someone. 00:03:07.156 --> 00:03:16.306 I do find it interesting that if they had this like plot line and a show now, like it would be treated so much more seriously than it's being treated in this episode. 00:03:16.306 --> 00:03:16.695 You know what I mean? 00:03:16.695 --> 00:03:20.475 Like 25 years ago, if this, they could still have this plot line in a show. 00:03:20.475 --> 00:03:21.225 No problem. 00:03:22.520 --> 00:03:25.550 But like, it would be just treated so differently. 00:03:25.550 --> 00:03:30.320 Like it wouldn't be the same kind of like humorous aspect about it. 00:03:30.320 --> 00:03:32.330 Like it would just, it would, yeah, I dunno. 00:03:32.330 --> 00:03:33.230 I just find it interesting. 00:03:34.876 --> 00:03:35.355 Yeah. 00:03:35.385 --> 00:03:40.575 It's uh, yeah, it's definitely different. 00:03:40.575 --> 00:03:52.246 I think that like, yeah, I think people would have to sort of like approach it differently now, um, with everything that's come out, um, and everything that is still continuing to happen. 00:03:52.395 --> 00:03:57.496 Um, all like the cases that are like legal cases that are kind of happening right now. 00:03:58.156 --> 00:04:05.406 And then we also have, the hilarious situation of like David Schwimmer playing two characters. 00:04:05.811 --> 00:04:06.381 yeah, that's great. 00:04:06.415 --> 00:04:14.406 Which again is like something that like F.R.I.E.N.D.S already does because Phoebe like, you know, Lisa Kudrow also plays her twin, 00:04:15.390 --> 00:04:15.651 Man. 00:04:15.661 --> 00:04:16.790 I didn't even think about that. 00:04:16.790 --> 00:04:17.300 You're right. 00:04:17.495 --> 00:04:17.946 Yeah. 00:04:18.966 --> 00:04:27.065 Um, and so, yeah, and then, and then we have like, you know, Monica is now suddenly in a, another, like a new, old relationship. 00:04:27.065 --> 00:04:30.485 It seems like they've heard Bobby have dated before, but like, yeah. 00:04:30.516 --> 00:04:41.266 And then, you know, we have plenty to talk about when it comes to sobriety, because, um, if any of you weren't aware both Emilie and I are sober. 00:04:41.776 --> 00:04:48.216 And actually from the time that we record this, Emilie, did you know that last week it was my five-years? 00:04:49.050 --> 00:04:49.560 No way. 00:04:49.800 --> 00:04:52.920 Wait, are you saying from the time that we record this or from oh, right. 00:04:53.221 --> 00:04:54.211 So, oh, 00:04:54.435 --> 00:04:55.065 That's today. 00:04:55.485 --> 00:04:59.415 So last week I was last week I was on Wednesday. 00:04:59.415 --> 00:05:01.396 I think it was, I was five years sober. 00:05:01.531 --> 00:05:02.790 Wow, amazing. 00:05:02.821 --> 00:05:03.750 Congratulations. 00:05:03.750 --> 00:05:04.531 I did not know that. 00:05:04.531 --> 00:05:06.211 I don't know your sobriety anniversary. 00:05:07.521 --> 00:05:09.545 I had to figure it out a little while ago. 00:05:10.175 --> 00:05:12.216 Like last year I was like, I want to figure this out. 00:05:12.786 --> 00:05:14.225 Um, yeah. 00:05:14.286 --> 00:05:21.665 Which is like, it's a little sad because remember us talking a couple of years ago, when we were like, what is our five year we're going to have a big party. 00:05:21.906 --> 00:05:24.786 We're going to like, do something to really mark our sobriety. 00:05:25.146 --> 00:05:31.685 And, um, I almost feel like there's like almost a sadder aspect to this than like my birthday, you know? 00:05:32.105 --> 00:05:32.286 Yeah. 00:05:32.286 --> 00:05:32.946 That's interesting. 00:05:32.975 --> 00:05:33.485 I didn't know? 00:05:33.485 --> 00:05:33.935 the date. 00:05:33.935 --> 00:05:37.206 Otherwise I would have probably forgotten. 00:05:39.065 --> 00:05:43.386 I wish I could be like "I would've a hundred percent remembered", but honestly I'm terrible with things like that. 00:05:43.386 --> 00:05:45.456 So I probably would have forgotten either way, 00:05:45.706 --> 00:05:50.475 I mean, If you had been reminded that week, you definitely would have made a point to say something. 00:05:51.315 --> 00:05:53.326 But yeah, I kind of, I don't know. 00:05:53.326 --> 00:05:59.266 I guess I ended up kind of keeping it on the down-low except for my roommate Mallory found out and then she bought me a Cameo. 00:05:59.716 --> 00:06:01.665 Um, have you ever heard, do you know what cameo is? 00:06:02.536 --> 00:06:02.735 Yeah I do. 00:06:02.735 --> 00:06:03.115 Who was it? 00:06:03.115 --> 00:06:07.096 It was, cause she like pulled me into season seven of big brother. 00:06:07.196 --> 00:06:09.435 We were really getting off here, way topic like off 00:06:10.026 --> 00:06:12.115 is way off topic. 00:06:12.206 --> 00:06:12.836 What is 00:06:13.175 --> 00:06:20.745 And so, and I was like a really big fan of Damien and he was just like this really awesome person on big brother. 00:06:20.745 --> 00:06:23.805 And um, and so she got me a cameo with him. 00:06:24.156 --> 00:06:24.576 Wow. 00:06:24.815 --> 00:06:25.896 That's amazing. 00:06:26.165 --> 00:06:27.906 That's a great gift. 00:06:27.935 --> 00:06:28.836 That's really funny. 00:06:29.255 --> 00:06:34.565 I know it was like such a great little thing to have like someone that I don't know, but I think is cool. 00:06:34.596 --> 00:06:36.036 Like validate my existence. 00:06:36.086 --> 00:06:37.406 I cried a little when I got It 00:06:37.526 --> 00:06:39.625 uh, that's so cute. 00:06:40.045 --> 00:06:45.175 I feel like I Will send you a cameo one day when you least expect it Um, 00:06:45.290 --> 00:06:46.281 it be of your face? 00:06:47.156 --> 00:06:53.245 no, I'll get like one of like, I'll get like James Marsters or someone from Buffy to like wish you a, a good day. 00:06:54.480 --> 00:06:55.471 Jesus, 00:06:55.615 --> 00:06:56.036 Yeah. 00:06:56.245 --> 00:06:57.536 I don't know how much it's going to cost. 00:06:57.536 --> 00:06:58.555 I don't know how much these things were. 00:06:59.060 --> 00:06:59.990 Really expensive. 00:06:59.990 --> 00:07:03.771 When you get like reality TV show folks it's more affordable. 00:07:03.795 --> 00:07:04.096 Right. 00:07:04.125 --> 00:07:04.545 That's fair. 00:07:05.206 --> 00:07:05.536 Okay. 00:07:05.565 --> 00:07:08.685 Can we talk about the topic at hand here? 00:07:08.810 --> 00:07:10.100 Actual episode at 00:07:10.396 --> 00:07:10.846 Um, okay. 00:07:10.846 --> 00:07:15.495 So I think you kind of named your three things, um, is that. 00:07:15.766 --> 00:07:17.115 did you, can I, can I go now? 00:07:17.146 --> 00:07:17.326 Is it 00:07:17.391 --> 00:07:18.440 Um, yeah, I guess so. 00:07:18.440 --> 00:07:20.391 Yeah, I guess those are sort of my three things. 00:07:20.391 --> 00:07:25.821 Emilie, do you have three things that you, oh, actually, I, I also want to talk about Julie, but that will be at the very end of the episode. 00:07:25.821 --> 00:07:33.000 So if you guys want to know like a bunch of little facts about Julie, um, slash Lauren Tom, to the end and 00:07:33.685 --> 00:07:34.615 Stay till the end. 00:07:36.211 --> 00:07:37.290 I don't think we've ever done that on our 00:07:37.435 --> 00:07:38.365 I don't think I've ever heard of that. 00:07:38.365 --> 00:07:38.576 No. 00:07:38.995 --> 00:07:41.425 Um, I feel like most people stay to the end of podcast. 00:07:41.425 --> 00:07:41.855 don't they? 00:07:41.906 --> 00:07:42.355 I don't know. 00:07:42.415 --> 00:07:42.956 Maybe not. 00:07:43.136 --> 00:07:53.086 Maybe you guys always like stop us, but when you like go on too long, like this, um, maybe our like number of downloads we have is really just people listening to our podcast for five minutes and be like, uh, no, thank you. 00:07:55.815 --> 00:07:56.596 We're good here. 00:07:57.286 --> 00:07:58.365 Um, anyways. 00:07:58.396 --> 00:07:58.755 Okay. 00:07:59.235 --> 00:08:00.346 Um, so Yeah. 00:08:00.346 --> 00:08:02.985 so obviously I, I basically want to talk about similar things. 00:08:02.985 --> 00:08:06.076 My overall feelings for this episode are very similar to yours. 00:08:06.136 --> 00:08:14.206 Um, I would say like, I do think that this episode is really, really well-scripted like, I think the jokes are on point. 00:08:14.295 --> 00:08:22.995 Um, they've got some really good, uh, dialogue happening, really good, like Ross acting both as Russ and as Ross. 00:08:23.115 --> 00:08:23.776 Yeah. 00:08:24.690 --> 00:08:25.980 There's just a lot going on. 00:08:25.980 --> 00:08:28.471 And I think it's overall really, really well done. 00:08:29.060 --> 00:08:41.471 There are some things that I think are really poorly done, um, including like, just like this whole thing around fun-Bobby getting sober, like, it just makes zero sense to me , but we'll get to that when we get to it. 00:08:41.801 --> 00:08:47.160 Um, and, yeah, so like what Quinn said, we're both coming from a place of being sober. 00:08:47.160 --> 00:08:50.551 I'm going to be a five-year sober on October 10th this year. 00:08:50.600 --> 00:08:57.350 And I think that you and I have a very particular journey, like two very different sobriety journeys while everyone has a different sobriety journey. 00:08:57.350 --> 00:08:57.620 Right. 00:08:57.951 --> 00:09:03.260 Um, but like, I think that it's like, that's not to say that, you know. 00:09:03.291 --> 00:09:08.510 anyone's individual sobriety journey is not valid, but I just do feel like. 00:09:09.466 --> 00:09:16.155 Often times the way that like sobriety is portrayed in shows, it's either it's like two ends of the spectrum. 00:09:16.155 --> 00:09:29.115 It's like super extreme drama, like over like really, really intense, which again, those are people's stories, but then there's also like what happens in this episode, which is like, oh, okay. 00:09:29.115 --> 00:09:30.946 I guess I'm going to stop drinking now. 00:09:31.985 --> 00:09:33.395 And then like, he gets sober, you know? 00:09:33.576 --> 00:09:34.336 And you're just like "mmm.. 00:09:35.005 --> 00:09:36.755 is that what happened? 00:09:37.015 --> 00:09:39.365 I know" I don't know about that. 00:09:39.696 --> 00:09:40.086 You know? 00:09:40.115 --> 00:09:48.216 Um, so I, I think that, uh, and again, maybe that is what happens to some people and that's totally valid, but like, it's just, uh, yeah. 00:09:48.216 --> 00:09:58.190 I just think it's, it's very interesting the way that they decided to portray sobriety and I'm stoked to talk about it, so let's get into it! 00:09:58.926 --> 00:10:00.936 Yes, let's get into it. 00:10:01.186 --> 00:10:02.686 This first scene is super cute. 00:10:02.865 --> 00:10:03.525 I think it's so nice. 00:10:04.126 --> 00:10:11.235 But they all like got out of bed at like sunrise to get the first newspapers of the morning for Joey to read his review. 00:10:11.582 --> 00:10:12.932 It's very cute. 00:10:13.418 --> 00:10:20.850 they don't say that, but they're obviously implying like it's middle of the night, which means it's like probably like 4:00 AM or 3:00 AM. 00:10:20.850 --> 00:10:22.650 And they're going to get like the newspapers. 00:10:22.650 --> 00:10:24.181 We can read it right away. 00:10:24.181 --> 00:10:26.130 Like, I just think this is so cute. 00:10:26.160 --> 00:10:29.071 Like they all get good friend rewards and just this moment 00:10:29.091 --> 00:10:30.130 I know eh?. 00:10:30.150 --> 00:10:32.010 That's yeah, it's so sweet. 00:10:32.041 --> 00:10:33.181 And you know what? 00:10:33.181 --> 00:10:37.500 That is like a very large part of the charm of this show, right? 00:10:37.530 --> 00:10:45.091 It's just like how much they all love each other, like the wholesomeness of their dynamics together as a whole. 00:10:45.480 --> 00:11:01.811 And like, at the end of the day, I think everyone watches the show and is like, wants this type of friendship, you know, with people, um, like that real sense of like community and family with people that you love, you know, it's pretty cute. 00:11:01.926 --> 00:11:02.615 it's super cute. 00:11:03.750 --> 00:11:20.645 I came across a little fun fact that I feel it's partly insignificant, but also kind of interesting that apparently, like they mentioned something about like some sort of sports game and something happening, and someone has calculated that actually that would have happened. 00:11:20.676 --> 00:11:23.135 So this is, this episode takes place after Christmas. 00:11:23.135 --> 00:11:29.105 Whereas that event that happened in the news happened in November at the very beginning of November. 00:11:29.135 --> 00:11:33.846 So it was probably recorded in November, even though it came out after Christmas, 00:11:33.966 --> 00:11:37.745 I don't, I don't even remember the sports event that they mentioned. 00:11:38.676 --> 00:11:42.186 Um, it might be like on the front of the paper or something like that. 00:11:42.985 --> 00:11:48.836 So friends does something in this scene, which has forever been one of my biggest pet peeves. 00:11:49.620 --> 00:11:55.530 Or, I don't know if it's a pet peeve because it's just happened on FRIENDS, but it's my biggest actually, no, it doesn't just happen on F.R.I.E.N.D.S. 00:11:55.620 --> 00:11:56.821 It's a, it's a pet peeve. 00:11:56.971 --> 00:11:57.571 It's a pet peeve. 00:11:58.380 --> 00:12:05.250 It is the fricking thing where people are like continued on next, whatever page. 00:12:05.610 --> 00:12:07.860 And it's in the middle of the f***ing sentence. 00:12:07.951 --> 00:12:13.831 Literally, no editor would ever in the history of the world approve of half a sentence to be on one page. 00:12:14.010 --> 00:12:16.770 And then the rest of the sentence to be on the following page. 00:12:16.921 --> 00:12:19.380 No, it would not happen in a newspaper like that. 00:12:19.711 --> 00:12:23.980 It's like you finish the sentence and then you say continued on whatever "A-4". 00:12:24.120 --> 00:12:27.451 And then you go to A-4, and you get a new paragraph and a new sentence. 00:12:27.480 --> 00:12:28.941 It's not mid sentence. 00:12:29.671 --> 00:12:30.240 And they do this. 00:12:30.240 --> 00:12:32.461 Sometimes in TV shows and it always bothers me. 00:12:33.061 --> 00:12:33.900 But anyways, 00:12:34.025 --> 00:12:34.145 Good. 00:12:34.285 --> 00:12:40.046 This is a very funny thing to be upsetting to you, but you, make a very excellent 00:12:40.350 --> 00:12:40.740 Yeah, 00:12:41.936 --> 00:12:42.416 agree with 00:12:42.421 --> 00:12:42.870 I get it. 00:12:42.870 --> 00:12:44.188 I'm into the joke. 00:12:44.201 --> 00:12:45.581 I'm super into the joke, 00:12:45.725 --> 00:12:46.688 never thought of that. 00:12:46.711 --> 00:12:47.941 It's unrealistic. 00:12:48.076 --> 00:12:48.885 It's also like the 00:12:49.640 --> 00:12:53.889 Almost as unrealistic of them living in those apartments that they're living in under the wage, they have 00:12:54.176 --> 00:13:05.365 I mean, it's almost, it's almost as though the editor though was trying to be mean, you know, like with the content and like where they cut it, like that could be a level of the, the, the joke. 00:13:05.910 --> 00:13:06.360 Oh, wow. 00:13:06.385 --> 00:13:10.346 Um, but poor Joey, he's really struggling hard. 00:13:10.671 --> 00:13:10.880 Yeah. 00:13:10.880 --> 00:13:13.841 It gets a major existential crisis here, like career 00:13:14.400 --> 00:13:27.120 And he almost, he almost quit acting, which would have changed the entire rest of the seasons if that had actually happened, you know, imagine Joey as else. 00:13:27.171 --> 00:13:40.020 And I like relate to this feelings so much, like this feeling of like, really caring about a specific work that you do and just like knowing that it actually doesn't make you very much money until like, you know, you quote unquote, get a big break. 00:13:40.140 --> 00:13:45.150 And like, you know, that looks a little bit different in our world nowadays than it did back then. 00:13:45.150 --> 00:13:53.301 But like, you know, just the way that social media works to market businesses, et cetera, et cetera, like there is something to be said about going viral, right. 00:13:53.301 --> 00:13:58.551 And the way that it can change the course of your career, um, completely. 00:13:58.791 --> 00:13:59.181 Right. 00:13:59.181 --> 00:14:04.640 And so I do think that like this feeling of like, f***, why am I still doing this? 00:14:04.640 --> 00:14:07.971 Like, why don't I just like, say, f*** it. 00:14:07.971 --> 00:14:12.681 And just like, go get a nine to five job and just like, do what I have to do. 00:14:12.681 --> 00:14:20.211 And like stop having to struggle to figure out when my next paycheck is coming and like have a job that gives me insurance and blah, blah, blah. 00:14:20.480 --> 00:14:26.150 And just like still going at it year after year after year, because it's actually truly what you want to be doing. 00:14:26.691 --> 00:14:27.051 Wow. 00:14:27.110 --> 00:14:30.291 I didn't expect that to turn into a rant, but that's real. 00:14:31.375 --> 00:14:42.985 um, he like, I'm just having like flashbacks of like every second day, last summer, where it was like, one of us would be having this exact existential crisis and the other one having to like talk the other one through it. 00:14:43.696 --> 00:14:44.566 Real. 00:14:44.655 --> 00:14:45.525 Yeah, we took turns 00:14:45.836 --> 00:14:47.546 So yeah, we did take turns. 00:14:48.326 --> 00:14:57.245 Um, so then in the next scene it sort of seems like it's probably later that day or something and, people are trying to comfort Joey. 00:14:57.263 --> 00:14:58.592 They're at Monica and Rachel's apartment. 00:14:58.770 --> 00:14:59.610 Yes, exactly. 00:14:59.910 --> 00:15:04.370 And then Ross comes in and he says, "hiiiiiii.". 00:15:04.666 --> 00:15:04.956 Oh my God. 00:15:04.966 --> 00:15:06.046 I tell you, we're going to forget. 00:15:06.046 --> 00:15:07.635 I wrote, we have to add it to the count.. 00:15:07.900 --> 00:15:08.140 Yeah. 00:15:08.201 --> 00:15:08.890 Yeah, me too. 00:15:08.921 --> 00:15:12.240 So this is actually only what our third or fourth Ross-says-hi.. 00:15:12.530 --> 00:15:12.740 Yeah. 00:15:12.740 --> 00:15:13.130 I don't know. 00:15:13.791 --> 00:15:17.211 I also realized that we should have been counting Janice's "Oh my god"s 00:15:17.311 --> 00:15:18.270 oh, I don't know. 00:15:18.270 --> 00:15:20.341 That would be too hard to keep track of there's too many, 00:15:20.921 --> 00:15:22.000 That's actually not true. 00:15:22.000 --> 00:15:31.961 Apparently I was reading a statistic and apparently Janice says, oh my God, like only a fourth of the time that the rest of the characters say,"Oh my God" to make fun of Janice. 00:15:32.916 --> 00:15:34.296 Oh, that's really funny. 00:15:34.775 --> 00:15:35.166 Huh. 00:15:35.676 --> 00:15:51.176 But, um, if anyone who has not like actually listened from the beginning and kept track, we are actually keeping track of how many, times and scenes that Ross says "hi", in his like, tone that he does, you know, that he's known for. 00:15:51.775 --> 00:15:52.615 Hi. 00:15:54.200 --> 00:15:56.419 Um, and so this is only the third or fourth. 00:15:56.419 --> 00:16:01.370 I totally would've thought that it would've been more by now, but anyway, we have to add that into you on our Instagram. 00:16:01.370 --> 00:16:05.330 So go follow us on Instagram WT Phalange podcast. 00:16:05.409 --> 00:16:06.169 That is our handle. 00:16:06.725 --> 00:16:07.174 Amazing. 00:16:08.264 --> 00:16:11.975 So yeah, so basically we find out, they're all trying to cover Joey. 00:16:11.975 --> 00:16:17.585 And then, um, Ross has this revelation where he's so stoked because fun Bobby is back. 00:16:17.585 --> 00:16:20.945 And so clearly he's like super into fun Bobby. 00:16:21.075 --> 00:16:22.955 Fun Bobby used to date Monica. 00:16:23.235 --> 00:16:26.174 Clearly he seems like this really nice, awesome dude. 00:16:26.634 --> 00:16:31.644 We've met fun Bobby before we were actually just talking about him last episode, if you've already listened to our last episode, 00:16:32.259 --> 00:16:32.740 Okay. 00:16:32.799 --> 00:16:39.820 I want to point out that last episode, we talked about this episode and referred to it. 00:16:40.389 --> 00:16:40.990 Yeah. 00:16:41.259 --> 00:16:47.212 So everything that we said about fun, Bobby, last episode is actually applies to this 00:16:47.472 --> 00:16:49.052 yeah, yeah, because. 00:16:49.192 --> 00:16:50.633 we did meet him in season one 00:16:50.774 --> 00:16:51.355 yeah, because. 00:16:51.365 --> 00:17:00.345 it's, I think it's like a hilarious joke that the fact that his name is fun, Bobby and the two episodes that we meet Fun-Bobby, he is incredibly not fun. 00:17:00.524 --> 00:17:07.454 He is ridiculously dull Bobby, because last time we meet him, it's like, he comes in it's because his grandfather died and he couldn't get a flight out. 00:17:07.454 --> 00:17:07.634 So we. 00:17:07.634 --> 00:17:09.345 decided to come to the new year's party anyways. 00:17:09.585 --> 00:17:12.375 And he's just like really, really sad and crying the whole time. 00:17:12.988 --> 00:17:15.508 the only the two times we meet Fun-Bobby, he's not so fun. 00:17:16.397 --> 00:17:18.948 I know, I feel like that's exactly why they did this. 00:17:19.678 --> 00:17:23.758 So fun Bobby leaves and 00:17:23.798 --> 00:17:24.067 Yeah. 00:17:24.147 --> 00:17:24.988 he seems great. 00:17:25.167 --> 00:17:27.028 Honestly, he seems like a lovely human 00:17:27.224 --> 00:17:27.464 Yeah. 00:17:27.464 --> 00:17:29.444 Monica looks super into him. 00:17:29.907 --> 00:17:32.307 I know she's so happy. 00:17:32.667 --> 00:17:44.548 Um, and then they figure out though they do wine math and the wine math shows that Fun-Bobby will be drank three bottles of wine on his own, um, and was still standing. 00:17:45.538 --> 00:17:48.258 Um, so everyone kind of 00:17:48.396 --> 00:17:49.027 That was impressive. 00:17:49.347 --> 00:17:51.178 had- did you say it's impressive? 00:17:51.482 --> 00:17:51.752 Yeah. 00:17:52.952 --> 00:17:56.792 Well like obviously relative, like, okay, whatever, we'll get into it. 00:17:58.528 --> 00:17:59.998 in a medical way. 00:17:59.998 --> 00:18:00.778 It's impressive. 00:18:01.952 --> 00:18:05.222 Well, like whatever different we'll get there. 00:18:06.748 --> 00:18:07.407 We will get there. 00:18:07.647 --> 00:18:27.730 Um, but, uh, so they basically all kind of put the math together and start to realize that maybe, you know, fun Bobby drinks a lot, and maybe he drinks a lot, a lot and maybe, you know, going to the zoo and drinking is not an appropriate thing to do, all the time. 00:18:28.151 --> 00:18:28.570 Yeah. 00:18:28.631 --> 00:18:34.901 I was going to say, I feel like if they serve alcohol at zoo, then it's fine, but okay. 00:18:34.931 --> 00:18:36.040 Maybe I'm not the best 00:18:36.171 --> 00:18:38.030 It's Emilie from five years ago speaking. 00:18:38.240 --> 00:18:50.721 Um, um, but also like, I really liked the line where Monica says we just so happened to go to a bunch of like places where people happen to drink. 00:18:51.141 --> 00:18:52.161 And I feel like that's like, 00:18:52.397 --> 00:18:53.178 very relatable. 00:18:53.421 --> 00:18:56.510 it's such a stereotypical line, but also it's such a real 00:18:57.661 --> 00:18:58.230 Yeah. 00:18:58.290 --> 00:19:08.701 Like, so it's very, very hard to go do a social outing that doesn't have like alcohol either centered around it, or it's just implied that alcohol will be a part of it. 00:19:09.181 --> 00:19:09.480 You know? 00:19:09.480 --> 00:19:12.361 Like even like, if you go bowling with friends, people get beer. 00:19:12.361 --> 00:19:16.621 When you go bowling, like bowling is like the most tame event you could do, you know? 00:19:16.621 --> 00:19:20.760 Like, it's you go to a bar with friends, you go to a 00:19:20.760 --> 00:19:25.290 That's why people drink bowling, Emilie to make it interesting. 00:19:26.665 --> 00:19:27.026 True. 00:19:27.385 --> 00:19:31.486 Um, yeah, so I think like we definitely have it. 00:19:31.516 --> 00:19:33.105 We have a drinking culture, right. 00:19:33.105 --> 00:19:46.605 We've completely normalized drinking in this way, in which like, you know, no one, like half the time people have a hella drinking problems and think they don't have a drinking problem because everyone else around them is just drinking equally as much, you know? 00:19:48.050 --> 00:19:49.040 no, exactly. 00:19:49.371 --> 00:19:56.549 And then to further that, creating bubbles of people who drink as much as you is very typical. 00:19:57.359 --> 00:20:00.150 Like it is generally a culture within our society. 00:20:00.150 --> 00:20:06.859 There is not a lot of spaces where drinking isn't implied or intended or, a part of a social event. 00:20:07.250 --> 00:20:21.920 Um, but then on top of that, you start getting very insular when you are drinking a lot and, and then it can be difficult to a see how much it is that you're drinking when everyone around you is drinking a lot with you. 00:20:22.160 --> 00:20:28.415 And then also it makes it difficult because your people do this at this level. 00:20:28.445 --> 00:20:35.996 And it doesn't feel like there's much opportunity to be with those friends or even have those friends, if you were to stop drinking. 00:20:36.266 --> 00:20:38.066 And so that's also a very real thing. 00:20:38.891 --> 00:20:39.550 Yeah, totally. 00:20:39.550 --> 00:20:41.411 That was one of the, Yeah. 00:20:41.520 --> 00:20:45.621 that was one of the hardest things for me getting sober was like, yeah. 00:20:45.621 --> 00:20:51.520 Like I literally moved away from the bar that I was working at. 00:20:51.520 --> 00:20:56.951 Like I used to live right across the street from the bar that I was working at slash the bar that I spent six nights a week. 00:20:58.090 --> 00:21:03.340 Minimum going to, um, and I literally moved to not be close to it. 00:21:03.760 --> 00:21:04.961 Because all my friends were there. 00:21:04.961 --> 00:21:06.131 All my people were there. 00:21:06.921 --> 00:21:07.971 It was my community. 00:21:08.570 --> 00:21:11.691 And even when I moved, I still obviously still ended up going back there. 00:21:11.691 --> 00:21:13.310 But it's just so interesting. 00:21:13.310 --> 00:21:21.681 Like yeah, the way that we, we create our bubbles around our vices almost, you know? 00:21:21.800 --> 00:21:22.881 Yeah, totally. 00:21:22.990 --> 00:21:25.750 So let's go to the next scene. 00:21:25.750 --> 00:21:27.131 We're back in central perk. 00:21:27.260 --> 00:21:30.270 Fun Bobby decides to make their coffee 'irish, 00:21:30.881 --> 00:21:34.570 I wrote some, I wrote Rachel is great and I can't remember why I wrote Rachel is 00:21:34.671 --> 00:21:40.730 Oh, it's because she brings over a coffee to Monica and Monica is like, it's what she asks. 00:21:40.760 --> 00:21:44.270 Is it like fat, free milk and low fat milk? 00:21:44.270 --> 00:21:47.270 And Rachel's like, well, why don't you take a sip and find out? 00:21:47.300 --> 00:21:51.441 And then Monica Simpson is like, no, it's not in, Rachel's like too late. 00:21:51.800 --> 00:21:54.080 So funny, like really 00:21:54.320 --> 00:21:54.800 good. 00:21:54.951 --> 00:21:56.901 but also so funny. 00:21:57.711 --> 00:21:58.851 So funny. 00:21:59.490 --> 00:22:05.191 So then Monica confronts Bobby for the amount of alcohol there is. 00:22:05.191 --> 00:22:11.191 And I love how like Phoebe and Rachel are like, "we're gonna leave for this conversation". 00:22:11.280 --> 00:22:22.361 And it's something that I feel like I don't have the social finesse of recognizing when I should be the one to step out so that people can have a, an important conversation. 00:22:22.871 --> 00:22:24.340 That's something I've realized about myself. 00:22:24.611 --> 00:22:30.760 I also just feel like, in TV, people have like really serious conversations at like very inappropriate times. 00:22:32.746 --> 00:22:45.855 Like, I don't actually feel like this scenario happens very often in which like you confront someone on their drinking in like a public location with all your friends and not any of his friends. 00:22:45.855 --> 00:22:49.756 Like, it's kind of weird, like, but you know, whatever it's friends and it's funny. 00:22:49.786 --> 00:22:57.605 But, um, I do think that he has a really funny line where he was like, well, I would make everything Belgium, but I can't get them off as a fit into the flask. 00:22:57.605 --> 00:23:00.915 And I'm just like, that is such a me kind of joke. 00:23:00.915 --> 00:23:03.526 Like that is my humor a hundred percent. 00:23:03.526 --> 00:23:09.615 Like it's like kind of like dad joke, humor, you know, like, ah, it's so good. 00:23:10.006 --> 00:23:10.695 Um, 00:23:11.145 --> 00:23:11.566 That's a great 00:23:11.806 --> 00:23:14.986 So then obviously he starts to make up some excuses here. 00:23:15.655 --> 00:23:21.586 He's like, oh, well I always say I'm just a social drinker and uh, you know, Hey it's flag day or whatever. 00:23:21.986 --> 00:23:26.336 And then we get the beginning of the unreal ism, unreal ism of the episode. 00:23:26.336 --> 00:23:27.026 Yeah. 00:23:27.746 --> 00:23:35.365 This is the part where it's like, but it, I like the fact that you worry about me and so I'm going to quit. 00:23:36.836 --> 00:23:44.115 It's just like, you don't get sober after like one conversation with someone about how they're slightly worried about you drinking. 00:23:45.615 --> 00:23:47.326 Like where's all the denial. 00:23:47.915 --> 00:23:51.018 There's just so many steps before you get to this. 00:23:50.748 --> 00:23:51.018 Quinn (they/them): Yeah. 00:23:51.018 --> 00:23:57.738 Like there there's so many things you know, you didn't really spend a lot of time making anyone uncomfortable. 00:23:57.817 --> 00:24:08.407 You didn't try to quit and then actually not actually quit and then have the ultimatum with someone where like, okay, I'm just not going to drink for a week and that's going to show you that I don't actually have a drinking problem. 00:24:08.768 --> 00:24:09.998 And yeah. 00:24:10.268 --> 00:24:12.948 Uh, there's just so many steps before this Fun-Bobby, 00:24:13.782 --> 00:24:14.173 yeah. 00:24:15.133 --> 00:24:20.053 And you know, not to say that anyone who has gone through 00:24:20.127 --> 00:24:20.488 Yeah. 00:24:20.532 --> 00:24:25.873 literally had one conversation and then went sober and like is now sober. 00:24:26.083 --> 00:24:31.093 Like not to say that you don't exist or those stories don't exist because I'm sure they do. 00:24:31.093 --> 00:24:41.742 And let's not take that away from anyone, but it's just an interesting choice of depiction in the show. 00:24:41.742 --> 00:24:45.282 And of course, it's obviously for the sake of making. 00:24:46.532 --> 00:25:13.833 Yeah, fitting into 22 minutes, but it's just the most like non intense, very light, like very quick little conversation of being like, okay, I'll just go sober and, you know, completely changed my entire life and how I relate to people, um, off of like the cuff of just one conversation, you know, but mind you, like, sometimes that's it takes, you know, like, 00:25:14.067 --> 00:25:19.137 Cause he does, he does say like, other people have pointed it out to him before and he's always made excuses. 00:25:19.738 --> 00:25:20.337 Um, 00:25:21.153 --> 00:25:21.603 yeah. 00:25:21.633 --> 00:25:29.103 And you know, like, This five years that I've had, that was like the second time that I went sober. 00:25:29.643 --> 00:25:42.153 Um, so, you know, like maybe, I don't know, maybe there was like a time where he did try to go sober for a period of time and like, you know, it was like, this was just like the thing that he needed, you know, to like get back on the horse. 00:25:42.153 --> 00:25:43.022 Is that the expression? 00:25:43.623 --> 00:25:44.432 that a weird expression. 00:25:44.913 --> 00:25:45.542 Um, 00:25:45.657 --> 00:25:46.198 not, yeah. 00:25:46.198 --> 00:25:47.038 It's not obvious. 00:25:47.087 --> 00:25:58.728 We said this like 60 times now we are validating everyone's sobriety experience newsflash, but it's just, it's not a very common story. 00:25:58.728 --> 00:26:13.847 And like, it does feel a little bit, um, it kind of just plays in to a little bit of the idea of like how drinking and or not drinking is like a choice and you just need to make the choice to quit drinking. 00:26:13.847 --> 00:26:22.877