WEBVTT 00:00:00.050 --> 00:00:00.709 No, you start. 00:00:00.800 --> 00:00:01.129 Oh, right. 00:00:01.129 --> 00:00:04.429 I started, oops. 00:00:05.690 --> 00:00:06.110 Hi. 00:00:06.719 --> 00:00:13.339 Welcome to What the Phalange?! The podcast, where we watch every episode of F.R.I.E.N.D.S discuss it, deconstruct it and fan over it. 00:00:13.369 --> 00:00:14.750 One episode at a time. 00:00:15.050 --> 00:00:19.429 My name is Emilie pronouns she and her also known as the Monica of the group. 00:00:19.640 --> 00:00:25.320 You can connect with me on Twitter at @EmilieB__ underscore underscore or on Instagram at @EmilieByoga. 00:00:25.460 --> 00:00:26.960 That's Emilie with an I E 00:00:27.410 --> 00:00:37.479 My name is Quinn and pronouns zie/zir or they/them on social media as @thebasicNB and @FeministMassageTherapist, and maybe the Ross of the group? 00:00:37.929 --> 00:00:39.549 Which is controversial... 00:00:39.700 --> 00:00:41.079 very controversial but... 00:00:41.500 --> 00:00:48.490 this week we're talking, I don't want to identify that way this week. 00:00:48.490 --> 00:00:53.270 We're talking about season two, episode 12, The One After The Superbowl. 00:00:53.710 --> 00:00:56.170 And this episode is part one 00:00:56.649 --> 00:00:57.340 of two. 00:00:58.570 --> 00:00:58.780 Yes. 00:00:59.140 --> 00:01:05.917 I don't know if that was necessary, but both part one and part two aired on Sunday, January 28th, 1996. 00:01:05.917 --> 00:01:13.272 Surprisingly enough, right after the super bowl it was written by David Crane, Marta Kauffman, Jeff Astrof and directed by Michael Lembek. 00:01:14.043 --> 00:01:23.373 According to IMDB, this is the episode where Ross goes to visit Marcel whilst on a trip to California and discovers he is working in commercials. 00:01:23.703 --> 00:01:29.313 Joey receives a fan letter from an attractive, but quote unquote unstable woman. 00:01:29.893 --> 00:01:33.611 Phoebe is asked to sing for children at a library. 00:01:34.001 --> 00:01:38.501 Fun fact, I had to copy and paste this from IMDB and Quinn didn't read it ahead of time. 00:01:39.721 --> 00:01:40.120 Fact, 00:01:41.590 --> 00:01:44.260 this is also the one where Ross learns that. 00:01:44.441 --> 00:01:45.161 Oh wow. 00:01:45.251 --> 00:01:48.040 Clearly I did not read my own words ahead of time. 00:01:48.040 --> 00:01:53.111 This is also the one where Ross learns that, where he thought his monkey was isn't the truth. 00:01:53.320 --> 00:01:55.150 Phoebe sings about the truth. 00:01:55.180 --> 00:01:58.510 And Joey decides that sex is better than telling a woman that. 00:01:59.516 --> 00:02:00.355 There's a theme. 00:02:01.256 --> 00:02:02.096 There is a theme. 00:02:02.096 --> 00:02:03.415 There's so many themes, 00:02:03.445 --> 00:02:05.156 many, many themes. 00:02:16.270 --> 00:02:16.920 Hi, Emilie. 00:02:17.471 --> 00:02:18.760 Hey, how's it going? 00:02:19.450 --> 00:02:19.871 Ah, 00:02:19.901 --> 00:02:20.290 good. 00:02:20.531 --> 00:02:21.070 Yeah, it's good. 00:02:21.070 --> 00:02:24.251 It's Friday nights, right before a long weekend 00:02:24.251 --> 00:02:27.191 It is, and we have a double recording to do today. 00:02:27.191 --> 00:02:27.520 Yeah. 00:02:27.550 --> 00:02:30.131 We're recording both episodes. 00:02:30.161 --> 00:02:31.121 It's Friday evening. 00:02:31.121 --> 00:02:32.591 It's been a very long week. 00:02:32.651 --> 00:02:34.901 I worked 11 hours yesterday. 00:02:34.960 --> 00:02:36.969 But we're doing this and 00:02:37.051 --> 00:02:37.292 Yeah. 00:02:37.292 --> 00:02:43.150 So you're going to get part one today and part two in two weeks, I guess for, 00:02:43.180 --> 00:02:50.861 yeah, we're recording both today, but we're going to split them up because well on crave and Netflix, they're two separate episodes. 00:02:51.132 --> 00:03:04.701 However, this originally aired as one, like extra long episode and as it is named, it is the one that aired after the super bowl, which is why it was airing on a Saturday or a Sunday or something 00:03:04.711 --> 00:03:05.222 Sunday, 00:03:05.891 --> 00:03:06.372 Sunday. 00:03:06.403 --> 00:03:07.400 Know about sports. 00:03:08.150 --> 00:03:10.729 You know, we, we know about sports. 00:03:10.759 --> 00:03:11.240 Yes. 00:03:11.312 --> 00:03:12.937 So fun fact, Emilie, 00:03:13.567 --> 00:03:13.986 tell me, 00:03:14.287 --> 00:03:17.317 this is the most watched episode. 00:03:18.352 --> 00:03:19.372 No way on. 00:03:19.401 --> 00:03:27.798 And then also on it's like first evening of opening or airing it got 52.9 million viewers. 00:03:27.978 --> 00:03:28.668 Wow. 00:03:28.706 --> 00:03:30.477 And that's because it played right after the super bowl. 00:03:30.477 --> 00:03:31.347 Of course it makes sense. 00:03:31.437 --> 00:03:31.826 Yeah. 00:03:31.887 --> 00:03:32.276 It makes sense. 00:03:32.306 --> 00:03:36.116 I wonder if they had to pay a lot to get that time slot, I assume, I assume so. 00:03:36.104 --> 00:03:38.949 I don't know how that works because it's an NBC production. 00:03:39.459 --> 00:03:48.669 And so I don't know, I don't know how that time works, but they have a shit ton of like big star actors in this episode. 00:03:49.179 --> 00:03:49.419 Yeah. 00:03:49.419 --> 00:03:50.949 They have really big actors. 00:03:51.037 --> 00:04:04.344 Also the director, Michael Lunbech won the 1996 Emmy award for outstanding, outstanding individual achievement and directing for a comedy series for this episode, for this specific episode. 00:04:04.344 --> 00:04:07.014 And it was the only Emmy one by the series that year. 00:04:07.375 --> 00:04:08.875 Oh, that's a pretty good episode. 00:04:08.935 --> 00:04:09.615 What are your fields? 00:04:09.651 --> 00:04:18.740 To be honest, there were so many other things that I was like paying attention to you when I was like, really trying to pick apart this episode that like the directing didn't particularly stick out to me. 00:04:18.755 --> 00:04:20.208 I also remember reading a few things. 00:04:20.208 --> 00:04:25.137 Like there was a lot of criticism around like John damn van Damme 00:04:26.156 --> 00:04:27.687 Jean-Claude van Damme. 00:04:27.836 --> 00:04:28.887 I'm so bad at names. 00:04:30.567 --> 00:04:35.983 Jean-Claude van Damme essentially like was very criticized even though he's like a very, what, 00:04:35.985 --> 00:04:41.625 Just wanted to say something that only people who've watched all the FRIENDS will understand, because you were said shawl clued. 00:04:41.625 --> 00:04:43.464 Then when I was like,"Je m'appelle Claude". 00:04:43.464 --> 00:04:47.089 Spoilers if you haven't seen all of F.R.I.E.N.D.S, 00:04:47.100 --> 00:04:52.699 not a real spoiler, but just, just dangling the carrot to keep watching folks 00:04:52.771 --> 00:04:54.322 Ten years later. 00:04:54.742 --> 00:05:00.168 But, essentially there was a lot of criticism around his performance in the episode. 00:05:00.197 --> 00:05:02.028 I never seen him in anything else. 00:05:02.057 --> 00:05:02.747 So I wouldn't 00:05:03.338 --> 00:05:05.168 criticism, like as, and he's a bad actor. 00:05:05.288 --> 00:05:05.468 Yeah. 00:05:05.468 --> 00:05:05.827 They 00:05:05.858 --> 00:05:10.267 I literally wrote the note Jean-Claude van Damme is not a great actor. 00:05:10.298 --> 00:05:10.687 LOL. 00:05:11.887 --> 00:05:12.427 There you go. 00:05:12.427 --> 00:05:14.887 So he was very criticized for his role. 00:05:15.127 --> 00:05:23.918 I always thought that like his presence in the episode was like very weird and sterial when I was a kid, I didn't actually think that he was a real actor, you know? 00:05:24.158 --> 00:05:24.427 Yeah. 00:05:24.517 --> 00:05:28.718 I think, well, yeah, we'll probably see that a little bit more when we actually get to that episode. 00:05:28.778 --> 00:05:29.048 Yeah. 00:05:29.077 --> 00:05:29.708 Well, yeah. 00:05:29.708 --> 00:05:30.757 So that's the next one. 00:05:30.978 --> 00:05:37.350 But then also, so yeah, here's the thing that folks, we're going to talk about certain themes that run throughout the course of both episodes. 00:05:37.591 --> 00:05:43.483 However, we are cutting this into two podcast episodes, but there's certain things that are going to be pulled over to both. 00:05:43.483 --> 00:05:47.144 So it is a two parter episode essentially that we're doing today. 00:05:47.723 --> 00:05:56.776 Storyline again in the next episode is also really criticized the one again, centered around John clued VanDamme between Monica and Rachel. 00:05:56.776 --> 00:06:04.487 It was criticized to be a poor writing, poor and lazy writing for which I think is interesting. 00:06:04.516 --> 00:06:13.817 Anyway, we'll talk about that more in the next episode, but for today, Emilie, what are your initial feelings on this first half? 00:06:13.846 --> 00:06:18.737 Or actually tell me your initial feelings of like the entire two together and then as them separately? 00:06:18.716 --> 00:06:28.547 I would say that, this is probably like the episode of F.R.I.E.N.D.S that I, I dunno if I quote the most, but I know the script the best would probably means I've watched it the most. 00:06:28.901 --> 00:06:30.880 Or one of the few that I've watched a lot. 00:06:30.971 --> 00:06:32.411 I really think that. 00:06:33.461 --> 00:06:34.750 I think it's well done. 00:06:34.750 --> 00:06:35.951 I think it's a great episode. 00:06:35.951 --> 00:06:41.083 Like obviously there are some issues which we will talk about like, you know, they do- 00:06:41.083 --> 00:06:45.283 What?! An episode of F.R.I.E.N.D.S that can be criticized, what, 00:06:45.572 --> 00:06:46.492 that's not what we do here. 00:06:46.569 --> 00:06:47.702 I know nothing of this. 00:06:47.733 --> 00:06:55.702 I feel like they were trying to say like the overarching storyline of these two episodes is Ross with his like relationship with the monkey. 00:06:55.702 --> 00:07:01.463 But really, I feel like the overarching storyline of the two episodes is women are crazy. 00:07:01.642 --> 00:07:02.452 Yeah, that's exactly. 00:07:03.442 --> 00:07:03.892 Yeah. 00:07:03.985 --> 00:07:13.355 With both Bookshields portrayal of Erica and the first episode, and then Julia Roberts kind of revenge fantasy, which like also is epic though. 00:07:13.416 --> 00:07:22.297 And then like of course, Monica and Rachel kind of having a petty catfight and then, you know, Phoebe singing the truth and she's kind of like crazy and like weird again. 00:07:22.297 --> 00:07:34.836 So like, I just feel kind of like, there's a lot of this, like, women are crazy and men are reasonable, except not really, they're not really saying that men are reasonable and this 00:07:34.855 --> 00:07:40.225 it is the implication, but I would almost say that Phoebe is the most grounded of people in this house, 00:07:40.586 --> 00:07:41.305 for sure. 00:07:41.485 --> 00:07:43.185 Well, Quinn, she sings about the truth. 00:07:44.266 --> 00:07:44.745 What about you? 00:07:44.745 --> 00:07:46.105 What do you feel about this first episode? 00:07:46.211 --> 00:07:51.497 Yeah, well, I'm kind of want to go through some themes that kind of run through. 00:07:51.497 --> 00:07:54.848 We're going to talk about like three things we're going to talk about today, which I realized we haven't been doing. 00:07:54.958 --> 00:07:59.192 I know, feel like we're rusty coming back, but now I feel like we're getting in the rythem of things. 00:07:59.172 --> 00:08:00.055 But okay. 00:08:00.055 --> 00:08:05.336 So some themes that, cause I was kind of picking apart these two episodes as a whole, and also separately 00:08:05.625 --> 00:08:07.735 wa-wa- wait before Quinn starts. 00:08:07.766 --> 00:08:10.225 I want you guys to all know what I'm witnessing right now. 00:08:10.495 --> 00:08:15.896 Quinn has an iPad to their rights, a notebook to their left and their laptop in front of them. 00:08:15.896 --> 00:08:21.055 And they have notes about F.R.I.E.N.D.S on all three of these things, just so you know, 00:08:21.505 --> 00:08:23.365 my brain does not work linearly you folks. 00:08:23.396 --> 00:08:24.625 I need all the tools. 00:08:24.625 --> 00:08:24.925 Okay. 00:08:25.012 --> 00:08:29.062 But so essentially we have the crazy woman theme. 00:08:29.692 --> 00:08:30.112 Right. 00:08:30.170 --> 00:08:40.517 And, even further we have this mental health theme also that sort of plays out and that's like really more specifically in the first episode that I really kind of want to explore. 00:08:40.611 --> 00:08:41.601 Yeah, we'll get there. 00:08:41.600 --> 00:08:52.400 But generally yes, like this crazy woman theme and like it all being centered around like men and attached to some sort of like sex aspect of it as well. 00:08:52.551 --> 00:08:53.270 Oh, interesting. 00:08:53.270 --> 00:08:54.020 I didn't think of that. 00:08:54.051 --> 00:08:54.801 Yeah, you're right. 00:08:54.831 --> 00:09:01.671 But then we also have this theme of essentially animals in the realm of 00:09:02.150 --> 00:09:04.081 the cow and the metal goes, moo. 00:09:04.640 --> 00:09:05.240 So, okay. 00:09:05.240 --> 00:09:10.623 I actually want to, I thought, I think it's actually really interesting that Phoebe has this, this song. 00:09:10.712 --> 00:09:10.923 I know 00:09:11.222 --> 00:09:12.423 I have so much to say about it. 00:09:12.423 --> 00:09:13.832 I want to get there when we get there though. 00:09:14.293 --> 00:09:15.962 I don't want us to go, I don't want to talk about it right away. 00:09:16.023 --> 00:09:16.562 I love it. 00:09:16.663 --> 00:09:27.793 Yeah, I guess I just want to, like, I think it's very fitting that Phoebe talks about this because we have kind of like three main, very central realms when it comes to like the animal industry. 00:09:27.793 --> 00:09:39.755 We have, we talk about like zoos, we talk about in the next episode animals in TV, as entertainment, and then we also have animals as food anyway. 00:09:39.785 --> 00:09:41.885 So we're going to touch base on all of these today. 00:09:41.916 --> 00:09:50.105 We've kind of like been able to bring it up as a topic here and there with Marcel in the past, but we're going to talk about zoos in this episode, folks, it's going to be. 00:09:51.360 --> 00:09:52.291 Enlightening 00:09:52.410 --> 00:10:04.291 animal rights conversations from your friendly neighborhood, off and on vegan, currently vegetarian and your friendly neighborhood, trying to reduce their meat consumption and dairy consumption person. 00:10:04.350 --> 00:10:04.561 Right. 00:10:04.561 --> 00:10:05.490 That's does that make yeah, 00:10:05.490 --> 00:10:05.910 that's me. 00:10:05.941 --> 00:10:06.091 Yeah. 00:10:06.091 --> 00:10:06.480 That's you? 00:10:06.740 --> 00:10:07.171 Yeah. 00:10:07.201 --> 00:10:07.640 In general. 00:10:07.640 --> 00:10:07.890 Yeah. 00:10:07.951 --> 00:10:09.841 I think that, yeah, 00:10:09.841 --> 00:10:11.160 it's a controversial topic. 00:10:11.160 --> 00:10:14.041 Way more than probably anything else that we're going to talk about. 00:10:14.760 --> 00:10:19.201 You know what, like, I think that I also want to approach this topic. 00:10:19.186 --> 00:10:24.855 Not from, especially, I actually kind of want to distance a little bit away from like the food topic. 00:10:25.035 --> 00:10:30.255 I feel like that is one that is like, becomes very central to all the conversations. 00:10:30.255 --> 00:10:31.936 I know that like Phoebe talks about it. 00:10:31.966 --> 00:10:33.225 I want to just touch on it. 00:10:33.285 --> 00:10:39.525 But I think it's one that like really takes on like the central aspect of like the conversation about animals. 00:10:39.525 --> 00:10:43.875 And, and I, I don't, I think it's our neighbors playing piano. 00:10:44.235 --> 00:10:48.405 Our neighbors is, is I think in a band we have determined. 00:10:48.436 --> 00:10:54.346 And if you hear them, well, we're not going to that's as much as we can credit them. 00:10:54.475 --> 00:10:54.846 We don't 00:10:54.846 --> 00:10:59.556 know what that, I remember that time where we were like, well, we can't record in the front room because our neighbor plays music. 00:11:00.336 --> 00:11:02.586 And now here we are recording the front of the room. 00:11:02.676 --> 00:11:03.365 Well, we forgot. 00:11:03.395 --> 00:11:04.716 Let's just hope they don't start playing the drums. 00:11:08.020 --> 00:11:09.971 It is Friday night, I guess this is banned time. 00:11:10.000 --> 00:11:10.181 Okay. 00:11:10.181 --> 00:11:11.350 Anyway, moving forward. 00:11:11.371 --> 00:11:22.755 But anyway, I want to actually stay away from the food topic as much as possible and really kind of talk about like animals and though the way that we use them in society in modern day as a part of the team there, and I guess, yeah. 00:11:22.842 --> 00:11:23.442 But, okay. 00:11:23.472 --> 00:11:26.503 So should we start off with the opening scene? 00:11:27.133 --> 00:11:27.673 Yeah. 00:11:28.003 --> 00:11:29.952 Well, what are your feelings about the opening scene here? 00:11:30.462 --> 00:11:32.653 Well, it's like the advertisement, right? 00:11:32.653 --> 00:11:41.143 And I think that it's particularly well done knowing the fact that this episode came out right after the super bowl and super bowl is known for the like epic advertisements. 00:11:41.472 --> 00:11:46.123 And so starting the episode off with an advertisement was a choice. 00:11:46.332 --> 00:11:48.102 Oh, that's so interesting. 00:11:48.163 --> 00:11:49.812 I didn't even think of that. 00:11:49.842 --> 00:11:50.082 Yeah. 00:11:50.177 --> 00:11:51.018 Emilie clever. 00:11:51.048 --> 00:11:54.258 So they have this like whole big thing where they're like, monkey shine be here. 00:11:54.317 --> 00:11:58.878 And like, you don't even see any of the characters for the first, like whatever, 10, 12 seconds. 00:11:58.908 --> 00:11:59.317 Right. 00:11:59.837 --> 00:12:00.827 Just like an ad. 00:12:00.888 --> 00:12:01.307 Yeah. 00:12:01.307 --> 00:12:03.827 You could be watching it and being like, oh, it's an ad. 00:12:03.827 --> 00:12:06.288 Like in the same way that everything else has been for this, 00:12:06.587 --> 00:12:07.788 I feel like you just blew my mind. 00:12:08.087 --> 00:12:08.778 Well, thanks. 00:12:08.811 --> 00:12:09.500 It's a classic. 00:12:09.500 --> 00:12:12.140 Like I feel like they're trying to make fun of beer commercials. 00:12:12.740 --> 00:12:13.850 That's what I was going to say. 00:12:13.880 --> 00:12:21.650 I feel like, I feel like this is literally what a beer commercial was in the nineties and into the two thousands 00:12:21.711 --> 00:12:23.120 and like also kind of, 00:12:23.990 --> 00:12:25.160 and I was going to follow up with this. 00:12:25.160 --> 00:12:32.120 "What are beer commercials now?" Because I don't really watch commercials. 00:12:32.120 --> 00:12:33.081 I don't watch TV. 00:12:33.081 --> 00:12:34.400 And so I don't watch commercials 00:12:34.520 --> 00:12:40.880 and none of my YouTube commercials, I don't drink neither of us drink so we don't really get any targeted alcoholics commercials. 00:12:40.941 --> 00:12:53.105 And I feel like, like on Instagram and stuff, if I do get a targeted ad or like a very un-targeted ad I feel like I end up getting like a hard alcohol commercials for whatever reason. 00:12:54.096 --> 00:12:55.926 Oh, it's probably because they know that I'm celiac. 00:12:55.985 --> 00:12:56.525 That's why. 00:12:57.365 --> 00:12:57.666 Okay. 00:12:57.666 --> 00:12:57.966 Anyway, 00:12:58.206 --> 00:12:58.816 so sad 00:12:58.962 --> 00:13:07.438 but yeah, so what I love in this scene is the line of Ross being like, oh, this reminds me of Marcel. 00:13:07.438 --> 00:13:30.178 And I love is like, this really just brings out like Phoebe and Monica and like a, like in a nutshell, the relationship with Marcel and also like ties into like Phoebe later on where he needs, like talking about this monkey, like, like you would a human where it's like big brown eyes and like little up pointed chin, like descriptive of like funky 00:13:30.178 --> 00:13:35.458 and Monica is just like so dry and cynical and like, and also the fact that they're both monkeys, 00:13:37.448 --> 00:13:39.149 it's just like, okay, well, it's great. 00:13:39.389 --> 00:13:42.359 I wrote in my notes, I said, Rachel's hair is so cute here. 00:13:42.359 --> 00:13:42.958 Cause I don't know. 00:13:42.989 --> 00:13:45.778 It's like, it almost looks like she like just got it. 00:13:45.778 --> 00:13:50.339 Freshly cut and like freshly blown out, like it's super volumous and like. 00:13:51.224 --> 00:13:53.413 It's just, I'm like, damn, that's pretty. 00:13:53.533 --> 00:13:53.774 Okay. 00:13:53.793 --> 00:13:58.063 So that this is actually something I noticed in both of these episodes. 00:13:58.063 --> 00:14:02.953 And I actually have a note in my thing where it was just like the hair is so volumous, 00:14:03.014 --> 00:14:05.504 They definitely put so much more money into this episode. 00:14:05.504 --> 00:14:08.083 You can tell, their hair is better. 00:14:08.183 --> 00:14:09.833 Their outfits when they're outside. 00:14:09.833 --> 00:14:13.224 I just kept being like, damn, like it's January, but I want it to be fall. 00:14:13.224 --> 00:14:16.403 Like these outfits are so like OnPoint for like fall weather. 00:14:16.403 --> 00:14:20.573 And like, they just like, look Montreal, fall New York, winter. 00:14:20.586 --> 00:14:23.676 Like they're just like really, really cute outfits. 00:14:23.676 --> 00:14:29.525 And they like clearly put a lot of money into like makeup and hair and high quality cast. 00:14:30.365 --> 00:14:30.635 Yeah. 00:14:30.696 --> 00:14:36.546 The amount of like big names in this episode or the, in these two episodes is pretty wild. 00:14:36.625 --> 00:14:39.145 I do think that they are a little bit self-aware here. 00:14:39.145 --> 00:14:46.534 With the, monkey shine, beer advertisement, I think like it's this kind of making fun of beer advertisements and then. 00:14:47.235 --> 00:14:50.384 , cause Ross says like, oh, this up, this thing always makes me so sad. 00:14:50.445 --> 00:14:52.865 And Joey turning around and being like, yeah. 00:14:52.894 --> 00:14:55.565 But like then all those girls come and everything seems to work out. 00:14:55.565 --> 00:14:56.044 Okay. 00:14:56.865 --> 00:15:06.254 I feel like that's like out of self-awareness of like how ridiculous these beer commercials are, you know, it's like, it almost feels like the only time they're self-aware 00:15:06.317 --> 00:15:07.799 F.R.I.E.N.D.S trying to be woke. 00:15:08.490 --> 00:15:10.830 No, never, never tried. 00:15:10.812 --> 00:15:13.479 So then our next scene is that we're at central perk. 00:15:13.759 --> 00:15:18.725 Joey walks in, he's carrying his first fan mail from Erica Ford. 00:15:18.763 --> 00:15:21.133 It has 14 eyelashes inside of it. 00:15:21.200 --> 00:15:26.865 Which makes you think a little bit of like the first episode of F.R.I.E.N.D.S where Phoebe says, oh, I just pulled out four eyelashes. 00:15:26.894 --> 00:15:27.884 That can't be good. 00:15:29.294 --> 00:15:34.754 And I was like, I was imagining he putting them in an envelope and sending them off to someone and I feel like she would, 00:15:35.085 --> 00:15:36.674 Yeah, she, she could, 00:15:37.125 --> 00:15:40.125 she's definitely given someone, her saliva in a bag before you see that later. 00:15:40.424 --> 00:15:42.884 At one point had like toenail clippings or something. 00:15:44.279 --> 00:15:44.789 Anyway, 00:15:45.299 --> 00:15:54.179 but this is like the beginning of when they start using the terms, like crazy whack job weirdo, like throughout the rest of the episode. 00:15:54.179 --> 00:16:01.980 So when Chandler says like an crazy world, that means you're married in reference to like the 14 eyelashes, 00:16:02.059 --> 00:16:02.690 Right. 00:16:03.000 --> 00:16:06.351 So that Monica reads the letter and essentially it has like the 14 eyelashes. 00:16:06.381 --> 00:16:12.711 And then they realized that that this letter was written to Joey's home address 00:16:13.231 --> 00:16:14.101 with no stamp on it 00:16:14.131 --> 00:16:19.172 So the person literally came into the building, knows exactly where Joey lives made their way over. 00:16:19.241 --> 00:16:27.451 And I guess also implies that they're like local or at least has been recently local and probably is still currently local it's really. 00:16:27.488 --> 00:16:31.268 And yeah, and, you know, stockers let's be real, like 00:16:32.258 --> 00:16:32.648 are real 00:16:32.707 --> 00:16:35.528 is yeah, they, they are real. 00:16:35.629 --> 00:16:39.668 And it also is a very scary thing to experience. 00:16:39.769 --> 00:16:46.823 So there's like a certain amount of like being fearful that makes sense at this point being concerned, 00:16:46.854 --> 00:16:48.744 well, Joey, you seem too concerned at first. 00:16:48.744 --> 00:16:51.894 He's like, I have my very own stocker, like you stoked about it. 00:16:52.163 --> 00:16:58.403 And I think there's like a deleted part of this episode where he literally said where Joey says the line, remember we talked about those things. 00:16:58.403 --> 00:17:01.764 Like, some things are good or somethings are bad or something along those lines. 00:17:01.764 --> 00:17:04.074 Like he has this line of like, this is not a good thing. 00:17:04.103 --> 00:17:04.702 But yeah. 00:17:04.721 --> 00:17:09.259 And then Ross comes in with a suitcase he's going off to travel the world. 00:17:09.251 --> 00:17:16.006 But it's actually just going to LA for San Diego LA going to LA for a conference. 00:17:16.586 --> 00:17:18.226 I have the script in front of me, folks. 00:17:18.256 --> 00:17:18.796 Amazing. 00:17:18.826 --> 00:17:19.516 I don't right. 00:17:19.605 --> 00:17:22.036 I was trying really hard to be prepared today. 00:17:22.215 --> 00:17:25.846 I have, I have a note in front of me that says, oh, Ross has gel. 00:17:26.145 --> 00:17:26.776 It's really rough. 00:17:26.776 --> 00:17:27.435 In this episode. 00:17:27.435 --> 00:17:29.536 He's like hella jelling hard. 00:17:30.615 --> 00:17:36.026 Like they really went all out on everyone's hair, including Ross they splurged on extra gel. 00:17:36.046 --> 00:17:44.266 Like literally you look at him and you could imagine touching his hair and feeling the crunch that like nineties gel crunch. 00:17:44.655 --> 00:17:44.955 Yeah. 00:17:44.986 --> 00:17:45.885 Oh my God. 00:17:45.935 --> 00:17:50.496 People, do you have memories of like the nineties gel hair crunch? 00:17:51.036 --> 00:17:51.455 Real. 00:17:51.705 --> 00:17:52.925 I definitely have that. 00:17:52.998 --> 00:17:54.798 So the next thing happens, 00:17:55.508 --> 00:17:56.077 who walks in? 00:17:56.077 --> 00:17:57.127 Is Chris Isaac? 00:17:57.208 --> 00:17:58.958 Emilie, can you tell us a little bit about Chris Isaac? 00:17:59.448 --> 00:18:09.048 Chris Isaac is a singer songwriter and he sings a song called we could game, which is really, really well known. 00:18:09.048 --> 00:18:09.768 And actually, 00:18:09.768 --> 00:18:11.748 Emilie, can you sing it for us? 00:18:12.647 --> 00:18:13.218 Oh gosh. 00:18:13.248 --> 00:18:13.607 No. 00:18:13.647 --> 00:18:14.028 Damnit! 00:18:14.432 --> 00:18:18.542 But he is, I do you do this part about Chris Isaac? 00:18:18.573 --> 00:18:22.542 The fact that , the song Wicked Game shows up in a later episode of F.R.I.E.N.D.S. 00:18:22.722 --> 00:18:25.032 Oh, I didn't know that! Emilie (she/her): Shows up. 00:18:26.587 --> 00:18:28.357 I can't even say the name of the episodes. 00:18:28.357 --> 00:18:29.077 It's a spoiler. 00:18:29.127 --> 00:18:36.448 But basically it shows up in an episode in which it's a turning point in two people's relationship. 00:18:36.958 --> 00:18:38.458 I think I know what you're talking about. 00:18:38.488 --> 00:18:44.097 Is there a radio's involved and like looking through a window with it raining outside? 00:18:44.337 --> 00:18:44.428 No. 00:18:44.428 --> 00:18:45.387 Did that already happen? 00:18:46.377 --> 00:18:47.307 Oh yeah, that already happened. 00:18:49.377 --> 00:18:49.827 Whoops. 00:18:49.869 --> 00:18:51.730 Oh, you're thinking of the U2 song. 00:18:51.759 --> 00:18:52.119 That's 00:18:52.359 --> 00:18:52.569 right 00:18:52.569 --> 00:18:53.289 With or Without You. 00:18:53.324 --> 00:19:03.614 So I also, I guess I wanted to point this out right at the beginning of entering the scene because very soon he's going to make the statement of, I don't know anything about music. 00:19:05.894 --> 00:19:08.173 He's like a famous musician. 00:19:08.233 --> 00:19:10.243 He lying, he knows a lot about music. 00:19:11.023 --> 00:19:18.604 I also want to point out that his face feels like he was a cartoon originally. 00:19:18.844 --> 00:19:21.243 And then someone turned him into a real boy, 00:19:21.544 --> 00:19:23.253 his face with the hair combo. 00:19:23.253 --> 00:19:24.903 I'm looking at the photo combo. 00:19:24.903 --> 00:19:27.243 And then his, like his hair line was got 00:19:27.243 --> 00:19:29.374 like very harsh jaw and eyebrows, 00:19:29.554 --> 00:19:34.874 very angular, but then also very bulbous nose and like with a lot of different like details to it. 00:19:35.433 --> 00:19:42.078 Like I just, I feel like every time I watched them, I'm just like, You're a cartoon that keeps life interesting. 00:19:42.239 --> 00:19:42.648 Very fun. 00:19:42.648 --> 00:19:47.538 I also think that the scene is so freaking cute with Phoebe where she's like, like, and they all get in on it too. 00:19:47.538 --> 00:19:54.528 Like, it's this cute, like moment of them being like coming, trying to support her in her quest, this is really cute. 00:19:54.979 --> 00:19:57.618 And then she like turns around and goes to heeeellllo 00:19:58.169 --> 00:19:59.189 I think it would catch everyone up. 00:19:59.219 --> 00:20:03.251 So he walks in and then she's like, okay, everyone pretend that I just told you something really funny. 00:20:03.332 --> 00:20:03.662 Okay. 00:20:03.662 --> 00:20:06.182 Now and everyone laughs and I'm like, wow. 00:20:06.221 --> 00:20:09.662 Only I wish that we had that sort of chemistry to pull that off. 00:20:09.961 --> 00:20:12.092 I feel that our life is not always scripted. 00:20:13.201 --> 00:20:17.912 I feel like if you would, or I would do that to each other, one of us would be like, huh, what 00:20:20.592 --> 00:20:24.882 We would say that probably about 15 seconds after the request is made because we were too busy. 00:20:24.882 --> 00:20:25.872 Not paying attention. 00:20:27.281 --> 00:20:34.872 Let's move along to the next scene where it Chandler and Joey's apartment and they're just standing around in the kitchen as they do 00:20:34.886 --> 00:20:35.290 classic. 00:20:35.411 --> 00:20:36.340 What do you wanna do for dinner? 00:20:36.369 --> 00:20:38.156 And the buzzer goes off. 00:20:39.057 --> 00:20:40.047 Turns out is Erica 00:20:40.707 --> 00:20:41.426 Erica Ford, 00:20:41.876 --> 00:20:42.656 Erica Ford. 00:20:42.777 --> 00:20:45.116 This is like one of my favorite scenes in F.R.I.E.N.D.S. 00:20:45.153 --> 00:20:47.792 Not like before she walks in, like right. 00:20:47.853 --> 00:20:50.472 Them just coming into this major panic mode. 00:20:50.472 --> 00:20:54.012 Like not knowing how to be humans basically. 00:20:54.323 --> 00:20:58.853 I think this, this scene itself could be a skit. 00:20:59.303 --> 00:21:04.163 It's just, it's just so jam packed with like so much goodness and excellent. 00:21:04.192 --> 00:21:07.133 Like their characters in a nutshell, like it should just, yeah. 00:21:07.163 --> 00:21:17.452 I like grabbing the frying pan and then, Chandler making the joke about like, they're not in a cartoon and then trying to run out the door and frantically going, like the one time they're not home. 00:21:17.452 --> 00:21:19.823 And then, you know, trying to go downstairs. 00:21:19.890 --> 00:21:23.519 Like avoid her, which they never think to go upstairs. 00:21:23.940 --> 00:21:24.569 Yes. 00:21:24.599 --> 00:21:26.430 It bothers me every time. 00:21:27.089 --> 00:21:28.109 No sense. 00:21:28.650 --> 00:21:35.329 And especially cause it's like in future, we find out there is like a roof, you know, like that people can go on to too. 00:21:35.430 --> 00:21:41.579 So it's like extra frustrating that like, they don't just like run, run up to the roof and hide there. 00:21:41.609 --> 00:21:41.970 Right. 00:21:42.000 --> 00:21:45.569 And also like you could just lock your door and not answer it too. 00:21:45.569 --> 00:21:52.769 Like, oh my God, they just put, they can just go through like this major peg and like, don't know how to deal with anything. 00:21:52.769 --> 00:21:56.759 And then he's like, he's like, I'll just run by her. 00:21:56.759 --> 00:22:03.329 And cause we never met in person Chandler is like, that's how radios radio stars, escape stalker, 00:22:03.359 --> 00:22:04.710 which is so good. 00:22:04.769 --> 00:22:09.900 And it also makes no sense because a radio star stalker would definitely also know, look up what they look like. 00:22:09.980 --> 00:22:12.380 I mean, this was a time before social media 00:22:13.700 --> 00:22:15.740 and websites, I guess maybe. 00:22:15.789 --> 00:22:19.483 Chandler doesn't get a computer until the end of, this season 00:22:19.483 --> 00:22:24.650 true if you're looking things up is a little bit less of a thing, like pulling out your Encyclopedia 00:22:24.680 --> 00:22:26.809 we practically are in the radio era. 00:22:26.970 --> 00:22:27.329 Emilie. 00:22:27.380 --> 00:22:27.900 That's true. 00:22:27.900 --> 00:22:28.329 Just kidding 00:22:28.364 --> 00:22:39.023 Yeah, and then eventually like running back in and like Chandler grabbing the soap and clicking the soap open, like it's just a 30 second or minute of like pure, excellent writing and acting. 00:22:39.114 --> 00:22:40.713 And the execution is great. 00:22:40.814 --> 00:22:41.584 Opening the soap. 00:22:41.580 --> 00:22:53.701 And so then they're all freaking out and then there's an actual knock at the door and they open it up and it ends up being Erica Ford and Erica Ford is played by Brooke shields. 00:22:53.730 --> 00:23:02.712 And you know, if you don't know who Brooke shields is, she's this beautiful, beautiful, very famous actor from, I guess, who was originally famous around that time, right? 00:23:02.753 --> 00:23:05.693 What was, what, like, did she do that made her famous? 00:23:05.693 --> 00:23:09.413 Like, I feel like I know her from a variety of things, but not necessarily 00:23:10.054 --> 00:23:11.884 I don't know her all that well. 00:23:11.951 --> 00:23:17.873 Again, it just sort of feels like we're like we were at the younger age when this show originally was airing. 00:23:17.903 --> 00:23:27.019 So, and also in general, I think my pop culture recognition when it comes to like celebrities and stuff like that, and people's names -fly right over my head. 00:23:27.122 --> 00:23:37.171 But the main point of this is that like she's known, she's known, and I think there's a general society consensus that she is like a bay blee human being, you know? 00:23:38.040 --> 00:23:38.490 Oh, okay. 00:23:38.520 --> 00:23:40.891 Well now I just like learned an interesting thing. 00:23:41.250 --> 00:24:00.121 Her best known films are arguably the blue lagoon, which included nude scenes between teenage lovers on a tropical island shields later testified before us Congress national inquiry that older body doubles were used in some of them because there was controversy in her being a part of child pornography. 00:24:01.171 --> 00:24:02.040 Oh, interesting. 00:24:02.090 --> 00:24:02.780 Fun facts, 00:24:03.290 --> 00:24:04.221 fun facts. 00:24:04.276 --> 00:24:05.667 More serious fun facts then. 00:24:05.778 --> 00:24:12.347 But I guess the thing that I really want to bring up is this being like the end of the scene, because essentially opened the door. 00:24:12.617 --> 00:24:19.218 It's Erica Ford played by Brooke shields, this beautiful woman, you know, again, her hair is very well done. 00:24:19.340 --> 00:24:26.300 And, and also her outfit is like spot on, you know, just like very like very well dressed and everything. 00:24:26.601 --> 00:24:34.921 And both of them immediately and shock, and immediately also change like pivot in their reaction and their mood. 00:24:35.250 --> 00:24:42.230 And I mean, that's like portrayed by Chandler, like squeezing the bottle of soap and bubbles going into the air, which is funny. 00:24:42.560 --> 00:24:43.010 Excellent. 00:24:43.401 --> 00:24:52.221 But I guess what I really want out of this, like literally just one scene and skit is to start bringing up this conversation about like mental health and how it's portrayed in the media. 00:24:52.601 --> 00:25:20.288 I want to start that by kind of pointing out how crazy, the quote unquote, crazy that we were talking about in the last scene is considered bad and scary and not wanted, but the scene it makes it seem as though it's only if that person is ugly, but if that person is hot and there's the possibility of sex of a woman, then it is okay. 00:25:20.588 --> 00:25:21.068 Yeah. 00:25:21.249 --> 00:25:27.368 They also created this assumption that if someone is quote, unquote crazy, then they are ugly. 00:25:27.828 --> 00:25:30.849 They had like this preconception, of what she would look like. 00:25:31.166 --> 00:25:37.376 And you know, later on Chandler brings it up and he says , you know, Kathy Bates from misery, she looks like the opposite of that. 00:25:37.436 --> 00:25:44.914 And if you know who Kathy Bates is like Kathy Bates in misery is like, she is a bigger woman. 00:25:44.974 --> 00:25:46.325 She is older. 00:25:46.535 --> 00:25:49.355 She has like green hair, I think, in the movie. 00:25:49.535 --> 00:25:54.255 she definitely comes off as the quote unquote classic crazy look. 00:25:54.434 --> 00:25:58.424 And so this person is like, not that. 00:25:58.454 --> 00:25:58.845 Yeah. 00:25:59.654 --> 00:26:20.050 And I also want to point out that you have like this already, this concept of like, de-valuing a human, when we start putting these labels of like crazy and there to like be feared, but then as soon as there's something that you want out of that person like that, like sex can like Trump that, you know, like, am I making sense? 00:26:20.560 --> 00:26:23.050 I didn't string that word, that sentence together very well. 00:26:23.141 --> 00:26:28.030 But anyway, so this is like, you know, we're going to start deconstructing this a little bit more as we go. 00:26:28.097 --> 00:26:30.749 But now we're in San Diego at San Diego zoo. 00:26:30.729 --> 00:26:33.061 And Ross is hanging out with monkey cages. 00:26:33.180 --> 00:26:40.239 This is there's, there's actually, I feel like a lot of silliness in this whole zoo storyline, to be honest. 00:26:40.284 --> 00:26:42.346 And Emilie, do you want to go through what happens here? 00:26:42.436 --> 00:26:42.977 Yeah, sure. 00:26:42.977 --> 00:26:46.948 Well, so the zoo administrator is played by Fred Willard who, if 00:26:46.948 --> 00:26:48.988 you give context to him, I actually don't know him, 00:26:49.317 --> 00:26:49.738 honestly. 00:26:49.738 --> 00:26:50.518 I don't know much about him. 00:26:50.518 --> 00:26:54.958 I just know that if you've ever watched modern family, he's Phil's dad, if you watch Modern Family 00:26:55.167 --> 00:26:56.698 oh, right. 00:26:56.707 --> 00:26:59.480 And like, he's, he's a character in and of himself. 00:26:59.480 --> 00:27:02.690 Like clearly he's just like bit of a dork. 00:27:02.779 --> 00:27:03.470 I want to say. 00:27:03.507 --> 00:27:04.586 You know, and tells him that. 00:27:04.636 --> 00:27:08.326 Marcel has died, he's gotten better. 00:27:08.326 --> 00:27:13.906 And then Ross like reacts in a really good way. 00:27:13.906 --> 00:27:18.346 He's a, there's a lot of like good feedback between the two actors in this scene I find 00:27:18.390 --> 00:27:20.069 sometimes monkeys die. 00:27:20.250 --> 00:27:23.640 It's not a great saying, but it is certainly fitting today. 00:27:25.170 --> 00:27:25.720 Excellent. 00:27:25.720 --> 00:27:26.269 Excellent. 00:27:26.259 --> 00:27:28.970 And then yeah, obviously gives them some zoo dollars and. 00:27:31.625 --> 00:27:32.734 Who is this guy. 00:27:36.065 --> 00:27:38.845 And then he's invited him to, come see a cute thing. 00:27:38.845 --> 00:27:39.865 And he's like, it's a lot cuter. 00:27:39.865 --> 00:27:44.694 If your monkey hasn't died, like, he's just like clearly has never delivered poor news to someone before. 00:27:44.694 --> 00:27:48.535 And it was just like, struggling, like also not tried. 00:27:49.694 --> 00:27:49.944 Right. 00:27:50.194 --> 00:27:52.434 It was like, just like, well, this is going to be awkward. 00:27:52.434 --> 00:27:54.265 So I'm just going to really embrace it and go. 00:27:54.724 --> 00:28:01.144 I'd be curious to know what else this actor's been in, like before he was, you know, known, well, what I know him from 00:28:01.444 --> 00:28:03.154 was he big then? 00:28:03.515 --> 00:28:04.234 Is my question. 00:28:04.265 --> 00:28:05.704 I can only imagine. 00:28:05.704 --> 00:28:10.444 So, oh, he was in the anchorman films, which is after F.R.I.E.N.D.S to be fair... 00:28:10.815 --> 00:28:12.075 Rise to Prominence. 00:28:12.075 --> 00:28:17.775 So I guess he, yeah, he was pretty well known in this, in this late seventies is what I'm seeing. 00:28:18.105 --> 00:28:24.585 He won awarded an academy award winning short film in 1987. 00:28:24.855 --> 00:28:27.045 He was in a couple of NBC sitcoms. 00:28:27.315 --> 00:28:31.934 It almost feels like everyone, they picked have been in some form of NBC show. 00:28:32.234 --> 00:28:34.852 Like Brooke shields was also in an NBC show. 00:28:34.844 --> 00:28:36.653 I don't know about Julia Roberts about NBC. 00:28:37.463 --> 00:28:37.733 Yeah. 00:28:38.173 --> 00:28:41.503 I want to save some zoo conversations until later on. 00:28:41.489 --> 00:28:42.749 So then we're over at the last. 00:28:43.588 --> 00:28:46.949 And Phoebe is getting ready to sing for the kids. 00:28:47.034 --> 00:28:49.314 We have Chandler Monica and Rachel in the background. 00:28:49.374 --> 00:28:55.673 And my favorite part of how this scene opens is that Phoebe pulls out her guitar and all the kids go, Ooh. 00:28:55.673 --> 00:29:01.463 And she goes, I know, Like, wait from the beginning. 00:29:01.523 --> 00:29:04.463 There's like that connection, you know, like between her and, 00:29:05.193 --> 00:29:07.284 and again, hair is super on point. 00:29:07.284 --> 00:29:11.753 It's like, again, super blown out, but then she's got it back in like a big scrunchy class. 00:29:12.123 --> 00:29:19.125 And then like, I guess at this point, Chandler Monica and Rachel are like having a little discussion at the back of the library. 00:29:19.635 --> 00:29:25.066 And they're both just like they're catching each other up in a way that catches the audience up. 00:29:25.096 --> 00:29:28.006 Like, I think that's like a good way to write these sort of things. 00:29:28.006 --> 00:29:29.566 You have to like go through the scene twice. 00:29:29.606 --> 00:29:32.348 But he, Joey decides to go out for dinner with this woman. 00:29:32.382 --> 00:29:35.038 And Chandler's kind of recounting that. 00:29:35.076 --> 00:29:38.152 And then he says a line and I think it's an important line. 00:29:38.182 --> 00:29:40.156 He says does she not deserve happiness? 00:29:40.156 --> 00:29:42.646 Does she not deserve love in term? 00:29:42.676 --> 00:29:48.136 Like after saying like she's crazy, he then says this. 00:29:48.136 --> 00:29:55.277 And it's his way of like justifying the fact that Joey just wants to go in the state to sleep with her and it's not justifying anything. 00:29:55.277 --> 00:30:02.926 It's just like, it doesn't make any sense, but I find it ridiculous here that in this moment, like the women's criticism is like. 00:30:04.426 --> 00:30:10.457 This woman thinks that Joey is on television and Joey hasn't cleared this up. 00:30:10.936 --> 00:30:15.196 And yet he's clearly trying to sleep with her because she's so into him. 00:30:15.436 --> 00:30:15.646 Yeah. 00:30:16.096 --> 00:30:17.596 Like that's not their criticism. 00:30:17.596 --> 00:30:23.116 Their criticism is she's crazy that this could be dangerous for Joey or like, this is a bad idea. 00:30:23.116 --> 00:30:24.317 Cause she's crazy. 00:30:24.346 --> 00:30:26.356 Oh, whack job is the word they use. 00:30:26.406 --> 00:30:29.817 There's not actually any concern for her wellbeing. 00:30:29.916 --> 00:30:38.696 And, I just want to point out that like within these like few sentences and back and forth, the words that are used as crazy, total lack job and maniac. 00:30:38.727 --> 00:30:47.326 And I just want to point out that, these are words that are very genuinely used to dehumanize people and to like write them off essentially. 00:30:47.391 --> 00:30:52.310 And she, for the record is deserving of happiness and is deserving of love. 00:30:53.391 --> 00:30:55.520 And that's like not up for debate. 00:30:55.701 --> 00:31:11.000 The fact that is up for debate is whether or not even should be debated is that she doesn't deserve those things while being kind of like lied to, or like it's not even a lie to it's weird manipulation. 00:31:11.510 --> 00:31:18.320 That's like not in starts, not intentional and then moves to be intentional as the episode continues. 00:31:18.861 --> 00:31:19.250 Yeah. 00:31:19.280 --> 00:31:23.984 it continues down this, theme that is so prevalent in F.R.I.E.N.D.S of essentially. 00:31:24.974 --> 00:31:35.946 Men can sleep with women if they say yes, no matter how they get them to say yes, you can manipulate a woman or trick a woman any way that you want, or take advantage of someone. 00:31:35.997 --> 00:31:46.576 They're talking about the fact that she like clearly is in a delusional state, you know, like this is like a very serious and real thing that can happen to people. 00:31:47.656 --> 00:32:04.126 And at first she's being painted as a threat, which is very often how, like people with mental illness are seen when an actuality people with mental illness are actually more likely to be victims of 00:32:04.277 --> 00:32:05.926 abuse, sexual assault. 00:32:05.997 --> 00:32:06.836 Exactly. 00:32:06.896 --> 00:32:14.926 And then we have like, almost this normalizing of like essentially Joey being like she wants to have sex with me, so I will. 00:32:15.027 --> 00:32:22.567 Now that her delusional state is a benefit of me getting sex out of her and then this is okay to me. 00:32:22.666 --> 00:32:23.007 Yeah. 00:32:23.007 --> 00:32:25.636 And, I do think it's so important that we're talking about this. 00:32:25.636 --> 00:32:41.087 And I also think it's important to , bring in a bit of like the aspects of like, this is delusional state that she's in or, or the fact that she's clearly is suffering some sort of mental health situation right now. 00:32:41.448 --> 00:32:53.178 I think it's important to point out the fact that , because she's white because she's beautiful because she's like, I don't know, based on her clothing she's wearing, she looks relatively wealthy, we could say, maybe not. 00:32:53.201 --> 00:32:59.682 She will get a very different treatment in society for those mental health situations. 00:32:59.682 --> 00:33:21.015 We're saying that she is more likely to be a victim, but of all the people that are likely to be a victim, it's also like people who are suffering from mental health conditions, who are people of color, especially black people, you know, like people who don't conform to, like what we believe is like, I, I don't know, the gender binary to start like, I dunno, beauty standards. 00:33:21.015 --> 00:33:31.214 If they're not conforming to this like ideal person of what Brooke Shields really conforms to, then they're way more likely to be treated with so much disrespect, you know? 00:33:31.214 --> 00:33:40.785 Like what was it last summer that a black man was having a mental health crisis in Montreal and was shot by the police because like, they were just not trained on how to take care of someone in a mental health crisis. 00:33:40.785 --> 00:33:57.214 And so this like idea that people who are quote unquote crazy are making your life unsafe, actually their lives are perpetually way more unsafe because of the way that they're treated by everyone around them. 00:33:57.265 --> 00:33:57.625 Yeah. 00:33:57.664 --> 00:34:18.101 I also want to point out the also the misconception that police can help in situations of mental health crisis which a lot of people who actually work in mental health crisis who are properly trained will point out that they never use a weapon ever and use deescalation tactics because they are properly trained to. 00:34:18.552 --> 00:34:25.961 And most people who do this have gone their entire lives with actually , being any truly violent incident where someone gets hurt. 00:34:25.987 --> 00:34:29.413 Whereas like most of the time though, when cops are Called to the scene. 00:34:29.592 --> 00:34:34.782 Usually the person who is going through a crisis does end up getting injured or killed. 00:34:35.143 --> 00:34:38.893 And way more likely for that to happen if the person is also racialized. 00:34:39.222 --> 00:34:39.913 Exactly. 00:34:40.422 --> 00:34:41.952 And actually I want to pull it a stat here. 00:34:42.043 --> 00:34:42.373 Sure. 00:34:42.432 --> 00:34:46.603 So I'm going to be linking some resources in the show notes, so you can take a look there. 00:34:46.621 --> 00:35:12.659 But it's about 72% of portrayals of people with mental illness in like TV are usually white CIS straight males, but I want to point out that this is like, from the perspective of essentially being the heroes of the story, essentially, like there's a lot, like when there is someone who has a mental health issue, that is a main character, it is a white CIS straight male. 00:35:12.659 --> 00:35:15.210 And so you can think of things like a beautiful mind. 00:35:15.195 --> 00:35:33.764 Momento things like that and so I want to link that to the fact that there seems to be in society this very large capacity to like see white men as being okay with them, having mental illness and having done really heinous things. 00:35:33.831 --> 00:35:42.757 Like very often if there's a school shooting, for example, and it is a white CIS male that has done it it's oh, this person had mental illness. 00:35:43.237 --> 00:35:43.597 Right. 00:35:43.628 --> 00:35:48.293 Whereas if it is a person of color, It was a terrorist act. 00:35:48.713 --> 00:35:51.713 And like there's a lot of different layers that exist in there. 00:35:52.373 --> 00:36:15.007 But again, I'm just pointing out that there's just such a large amount of like us creating narratives and stories and like creating compassionate narratives and stories where we explore the minds and like the lives of white CIS men with mental illness, when an actual fact, it's mostly not white CIS males who have mental illness. 00:36:15.054 --> 00:36:30.317 And essentially this sort of representation in the media actually gives us just more empathy for white CIS men and continues to play into our racist narratives that exist essentially. 00:36:30.887 --> 00:36:31.246 Yeah. 00:36:31.300 --> 00:36:34.391 Well, yeah, no, I, I, yeah. 00:36:34.420 --> 00:36:51.101 I also, like I realized I pointed out last summer in Montreal, but I'm also thinking of like in Toronto and like, it's just, I mean, not even continue, it's a continuous, like basicly, just destruction of people with mental health conditions. 00:36:51.101 --> 00:36:55.826 And, and like you pointed out the fact that, like you were saying that people who work in mental. 00:36:56.831 --> 00:36:59.650 Argue that they can deescalate more. 00:36:59.681 --> 00:37:20.768 But I would also say that there's like a lot of internal biases in the like psychiatric world as well against people of color and like people of color, you know, also first less likely to be given prescription medication for mental health issues, less likely to be diagnosed for mental health things less likely to be given help. 00:37:20.768 --> 00:37:23.108 Just like, yeah, it's just endless. 00:37:23.139 --> 00:37:25.809 It's endless people with yeah. 00:37:26.108 --> 00:37:26.378 Yeah. 00:37:27.909 --> 00:37:29.349 I like where you go on forever about this. 00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:49.778 I also want to point out at this point as well, that the portrayal of quote, unquote crazy people or people with mental illness or like the attempt to write people with mental illness is almost always written by people who have no actual real idea about mental illness. 00:37:50.108 --> 00:37:50.318 Yeah. 00:37:50.349 --> 00:37:51.699 And portrayed by people who don't. 00:37:51.818 --> 00:38:01.528 And they're the ones creating these characters and it has become very acceptable in society to sort of like, be very casual about it. 00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:27.806 And I want to point out that, like, I think that in the past, five, even 10 years, we've gotten a lot better with talking about mental health in society, but, there still seems to be a real strong bias towards really only centering it around anxiety and depression on like fairly superficial levels and really talking about the productivity levels and how people are allowed to like, not be productive all the time. 00:38:27.806 --> 00:38:38.911 And you know, but, but when we, when we're doing mental health awareness and we're advocating for more mental health acceptance in society, we have to reach out further than that. 00:38:38.911 --> 00:38:57.817 And also talk about the fact that like, you know, someone making you uncomfortable outside in public, because they're doing things that are not necessarily , what is culturally socially normal for you in like that setting, just because it makes you uncomfortable it doesn't mean that they're dangerous. 00:38:58.777 --> 00:39:10.416 And we also just have to talk about like mental health awareness is also about creating support and safe spaces for people who make us uncomfortable with their mental health illness. 00:39:10.476 --> 00:39:33.947 Yeah, it's, we've like in the same way that like, you know, when people started accepting queer folks, it started with like the queer people who could conform to heterosexual society, you know, it's like the white gay men who still , are not a feminine and like, 00:39:33.978 --> 00:39:34.978 want to get married 00:39:35.007 --> 00:39:36.617 and, and do the sports. 00:39:36.657 --> 00:39:41.518 And like, you know, like still are productive, et cetera, et cetera. 00:39:42.057 --> 00:39:44.938 And then slowly we've started to expand it to now. 00:39:44.938 --> 00:39:51.077 We're like having conversations around trans women's rights in a way that we did not have 10 years ago. 00:39:51.077 --> 00:39:56.717 And I do think that like the conversations around mental health have kind of started in the same way. 00:39:56.717 --> 00:40:00.617 It's like, yes, you can have mental health issues if they're like clean. 00:40:01.057 --> 00:40:16.577 And like, you can still be quote unquote, contributing to society, which is one of the most fucked up phrases you could ever say, because yeah, you don't need to contribute to society to still deserve love happiness. 00:40:16.630 --> 00:40:17.795 Basic necessities 00:40:17.824 --> 00:40:20.585 to be valued by others yeah. 00:40:20.644 --> 00:40:36.934 Survive, thrive, you know, like, so I, I do think that it's going to be a continuation of, of, you know, in the same way that we say, like I'm not gay as in happy queers and fuck you or whatever it is. 00:40:37.114 --> 00:40:46.545 Like I think that there is a certain level of, we have to open the doors around our mental health conversations, beyond the standard kind of. 00:40:47.474 --> 00:40:50.894 Anxiety, depression, ADD sort of conversations. 00:40:50.894 --> 00:40:52.275 You know, those are still important. 00:40:52.304 --> 00:40:53.175 Don't get me wrong. 00:40:54.224 --> 00:40:54.704 Definitely. 00:40:54.690 --> 00:41:02.090 As someone who has all three of those very important, but you know, we need to, we need to push past that as well. 00:41:03.621 --> 00:41:14.288 I dream of a world where, you know, we all kind of understand how to, deescalate a situation or so moving on in this scene? 00:41:14.322 --> 00:41:20.262 I just want to just touch one last phase and actually were, we both kind of pointed it out when we were watching it together. 00:41:20.324 --> 00:41:33.123 This on the complete contrary of like, you know, Joey basically taken advantage of a woman, which is not consensual you have this really beautiful demonstration of something really cute consent-ie. 00:41:33.213 --> 00:41:33.684 Yeah. 00:41:33.704 --> 00:41:40.094 I think that when we first started bringing about conversations around consent, it was like, oh, well asking someone to like kiss them. 00:41:40.094 --> 00:41:42.373 It's not romantic, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 00:41:42.523 --> 00:41:49.244 And like here you have this really cute moment of like, you know, her being like, are you going to kiss me? 00:41:49.244 --> 00:41:51.134 And then him being like, was thinking about it. 00:41:51.134 --> 00:42:01.063 And then she says, okay, like this like moment of cute consent in which like, like Phoebe had the space to say no, you know? 00:42:01.063 --> 00:42:04.123 And like it was, I just think that it was like a really. 00:42:04.918 --> 00:42:05.338 Yeah. 00:42:05.699 --> 00:42:06.088 Excellent. 00:42:06.088 --> 00:42:12.818 Well, we just need more demonstrations of consensual, interactions like this and I think this is a really great one. 00:42:12.818 --> 00:42:15.338 And also just like, I always, I just want to kiss Phoebe too. 00:42:15.458 --> 00:42:17.949 Like, she's just like, 00:42:19.208 --> 00:42:19.869 it's really funny. 00:42:19.878 --> 00:42:20.099 Yeah. 00:42:20.099 --> 00:42:22.559 So then get the first of her of her songs, 00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:22.980 right? 00:42:22.980 --> 00:42:24.090 Yes, we have. 00:42:24.900 --> 00:42:25.860 Do you want me to read it? 00:42:25.884 --> 00:42:26.873 I would like to sing it. 00:42:26.934 --> 00:42:27.833 Okay, go ahead. 00:42:28.313 --> 00:42:31.673 Now grandma's a person that everyone likes. 00:42:31.853 --> 00:42:39.344 She bought you a train and a bright, shiny bike, but lately she hasn't been coming to dinner. 00:42:39.373 --> 00:42:43.264 Last time you saw her, she looked so much thiner. 00:42:43.653 --> 00:42:52.224 Now, your mom and dad say she moved to Peru, but the truth is she died and some day you will too la la la la lulalala. 00:42:53.813 --> 00:42:58.893 I sing this song a lot and to be honest, I hear the song by heart. 00:42:58.914 --> 00:43:00.994 Maybe I kind of want you to cut out us singing. 00:43:01.164 --> 00:43:01.463 this 00:43:01.463 --> 00:43:02.514 I definitely won't. 00:43:02.795 --> 00:43:06.994 So then the next scene is we're in the restaurant with Joey and Erica. 00:43:07.414 --> 00:43:07.744 Yeah. 00:43:07.925 --> 00:43:09.045 So okay. 00:43:09.106 --> 00:43:13.846 I don't want to go through this in too much detail because we have so much to talk about. 00:43:13.905 --> 00:43:18.914 But I want to point out that the moment where she laughs 00:43:18.952 --> 00:43:20.271 So well done. 00:43:20.331 --> 00:43:22.822 It's so good. 00:43:22.851 --> 00:43:23.541 I love it. 00:43:23.572 --> 00:43:31.612 So all criticisms aside, I think that's just like a really great moment. 00:43:32.271 --> 00:43:32.782 Yeah. 00:43:32.811 --> 00:43:36.112 She's like totally to run her chair and it was just, it was very well done. 00:43:36.130 --> 00:43:43.260 I also, I do think it's important to point out that like Brooke shields took on this role, what, in 1996, we just did in 1997. 00:43:43.320 --> 00:43:45.121 And then about what was it like? 00:43:45.211 --> 00:43:54.472 I don't know, seven or eight years later, Brooke shields is actually really well known in the media because Tom cruise basically like, you know, Tom cruise Scientology, all that bullshit. 00:43:54.472 --> 00:44:00.922 But Tom cruise, like criticized Brooke shields publicly for using antidepressants. 00:44:00.976 --> 00:44:07.851 Cause she opened up about the fact that when she had her first kid, she like had really, really bad postpartum depression. 00:44:08.150 --> 00:44:13.820 And she was like very openly talking about the fact that she was on medication for her mental health condition. 00:44:14.090 --> 00:44:15.590 And so I find it really interesting. 00:44:15.590 --> 00:44:31.329 And part of me wonders if Brooke shields would have portrayed this character, like 10 years later after going through this you know, and if she did, would it be like a different per what I have a different perspective on it? 00:44:31.570 --> 00:44:32.170 You know what I mean? 00:44:32.170 --> 00:44:32.679 Would it be like. 00:44:33.670 --> 00:44:37.480 A certain level of criticism of the way that we're portraying people with mental health conditions. 00:44:37.570 --> 00:44:38.079 I don't know. 00:44:38.139 --> 00:44:38.980 Just makes me, I think, 00:44:39.440 --> 00:44:41.199 That is actually really interesting. 00:44:41.250 --> 00:44:46.420 But she's a huge advocate for mental health from this like personal experience with it, you know? 00:44:46.809 --> 00:44:55.139 And so I do wonder, but again, that's like a different form of mental health than like, you know being in a dilution 00:44:55.349 --> 00:45:04.110 and very often again, like circling back to like depression nowadays kind of being more like the acceptable mental illness. 00:45:04.159 --> 00:45:06.105 It's like much more mainstream now. 00:45:06.525 --> 00:45:12.284 And whereas something that like it's, because we're all depressed because of capitalism. 00:45:12.364 --> 00:45:23.434 But something that's more like, like I was reading in forums, some people kind of talking how even though this is a fictional character, be pathologizing, someone is not okay. 00:45:23.463 --> 00:45:34.923 But some, I was reading in some forums, like people talking about how as externally, if they were to diagnose this, it would probably be something like schizophrenia, which is something that they're. 00:45:34.922 --> 00:45:38.643 Mental illness in society that still has immense amounts of stigma, 00:45:38.690 --> 00:45:40.639 Similar to a multiple personality disorder. 00:45:40.670 --> 00:45:47.539 Both of those are like really like the only portrayals on television is like them murdering people like being murderers. 00:45:47.739 --> 00:45:57.760 And actually, so I am going to link in the show notes, a Ted talk by Elena or log log Longtin Eleanor logged in Longen 00:45:59.170 --> 00:45:59.829 how do you spell it? 00:45:59.920 --> 00:46:01.869 L O N G D E N. 00:46:02.500 --> 00:46:03.820 Longed , Longden. 00:46:03.889 --> 00:46:04.730 I feel like that's right. 00:46:04.730 --> 00:46:12.592 So Eleanor Longden is essentially someone who is a very prominent in the mental health awareness movement. 00:46:13.342 --> 00:46:20.983 And specifically, because when she was going through college, she started hearing voices that only she could hear. 00:46:21.284 --> 00:46:40.396 And it's a very interesting Ted talk that really kind of goes through how she immediately really started seeking out help for it and how actually that, how people approached her, having voices in her head basically was actually more damaging than. 00:46:40.376 --> 00:46:42.188 If she hadn't gone to see get help. 00:46:42.197 --> 00:46:52.402 And essentially like it's anyway, it's a very, I, I originally saw it like many years ago and it has stuck with me ever since, and I definitely suggest watching it 00:46:53.001 --> 00:46:53.331 nice. 00:46:54.032 --> 00:46:56.894 So next scene, we're back at the zoo. 00:46:57.028 --> 00:47:04.672 So I guess, is this the moment where, oh yeah, so we have the actor Dan Castile, Castile and Netta. 00:47:04.793 --> 00:47:05.512 I want to say 00:47:05.753 --> 00:47:06.233 yes. 00:47:06.413 --> 00:47:07.913 And everyone take a moment. 00:47:08.032 --> 00:47:09.112 Do you know who this is? 00:47:09.893 --> 00:47:12.623 Maybe turn on the TV, take a look at him. 00:47:12.652 --> 00:47:14.422 Can you tell, do you know. 00:47:15.188 --> 00:47:15.697 Wow. 00:47:15.697 --> 00:47:16.248 Quinn 00:47:16.568 --> 00:47:17.047 I'm sorry. 00:47:17.047 --> 00:47:19.538 I was like, what, what I found out 00:47:19.898 --> 00:47:20.768 I already knew. 00:47:20.768 --> 00:47:23.228 So it was like less shocking for me, but yeah, 00:47:23.487 --> 00:47:24.097 I turned down. 00:47:24.197 --> 00:47:26.527 I was like, I was like, do you know who this is? 00:47:26.557 --> 00:47:27.277 Do you do? 00:47:27.788 --> 00:47:34.135 And Emilie already knew, but so Daniel Kasten Nella, Dan Caspin now, whatever. 00:47:34.268 --> 00:47:45.998 Also what does the voice of Homer Simpson and many other characters in the Simpsons, which when I found that out, I was like, that's what he looks like, my childhood isn't that one person, 00:47:46.728 --> 00:48:00.454 the only reason why I know that is because when I was like a kid, I I like had to do an exercise where we had to, like in high school or elementary school, we had to like write a letter to like someone from our favorite show or something. 00:48:00.934 --> 00:48:06.543 And I, yeah, I forgot what it was, but I let her, I wrote a letter to Matt groaning who is the creator of the Simpsons. 00:48:06.724 --> 00:48:12.094 And so I did like a bunch of research into the Simpsons before writing this letter to him. 00:48:12.273 --> 00:48:13.384 Do you still have that letter? 00:48:14.193 --> 00:48:16.563 No, but I got a letter back actually. 00:48:16.623 --> 00:48:18.333 Did you re did you still have that letter? 00:48:18.753 --> 00:48:26.884 No, it was like one of those clearly like auto emails, but in the form of like, written letter auto emails, you know? 00:48:27.407 --> 00:48:27.737 Right. 00:48:27.978 --> 00:48:31.188 Like, like assistant wrote it, he signed it. 00:48:31.458 --> 00:48:31.878 Yeah. 00:48:31.907 --> 00:48:37.367 Or like assistant had a template of like 12 different letters to send back when someone writes a fan letter. 00:48:37.594 --> 00:48:49.025 I think this interaction between Ross and the janitor is I, I feel like their, their chemistry is fairly funny, but again, this is like another really big person. 00:48:49.034 --> 00:48:50.735 It's so many big people. 00:48:50.795 --> 00:48:51.184 Yeah. 00:48:51.344 --> 00:48:55.114 And like, and Simpsons were thinking at this time, you know, anyway. 00:48:55.139 --> 00:49:02.083 So Ross thinks that the janitor has different intentions apparently offers him the zoo dollars. 00:49:02.132 --> 00:49:05.552 Like you always get one in consolation of his dead monkey. 00:49:07.413 --> 00:49:14.253 He was like, I don't really want to make out with you in a closet, but here's some zoo dollars maybe next time. 00:49:14.347 --> 00:49:17.166 So then next scene Joey and Erica and the restaurant. 00:49:19.956 --> 00:49:31.585 Joey could not save the person because it was a clear case of foodal chokage which is like the most Joe, you think you could come up with I did have some notes about her outfit. 00:49:31.675 --> 00:49:34.614 I thought it was like very classic nineties. 00:49:34.614 --> 00:49:37.644 So when she gets up, she goes to the straps. 00:49:37.675 --> 00:49:38.034 Yeah. 00:49:38.215 --> 00:49:41.905 Spaghetti straps that like cut, like right across the chest. 00:49:42.021 --> 00:49:47.931 Part like of the dress, the long scarf wrapped around the neck, but like it's a thin scarf. 00:49:47.931 --> 00:49:54.530 And then she was like wearing clearly has like slightly different tone lip liner to her lipstick. 00:49:54.891 --> 00:50:02.001 And then like very specific 90s eyebrows, the two little like strings of hair framing your face 00:50:02.661 --> 00:50:07.581 which, by the way, I remember so many times trying to pull that off and 00:50:08.121 --> 00:50:09.141 oh yeah, for sure. 00:50:09.141 --> 00:50:11.240 Just doesn't you just can't pull that shit off. 00:50:11.300 --> 00:50:13.760 It's just, yeah, unless you're in a movie, 00:50:13.791 --> 00:50:14.740 unless your Brook Shields, 00:50:15.170 --> 00:50:15.740 or Buffy, 00:50:16.791 --> 00:50:19.971 but I do want to point out in this scene, I think this is important to bring up. 00:50:20.047 --> 00:50:26.797 when we're talking about like manipulation and consent and like, why did Joey do something wrong? 00:50:26.797 --> 00:50:28.128 Do you not do something wrong? 00:50:28.157 --> 00:50:28.927 Blah, blah, blah. 00:50:29.077 --> 00:50:43.057 I think that there was a very clear moment in this scene in which like Joey was doing questionably inappropriate behavior to like, clearly this is not okay. 00:50:43.112 --> 00:50:49.097 And it's the moment where he decides he's going to try to tell her that he's not actually Dr. 00:50:49.097 --> 00:50:49.836 Drake Ramorey. 00:50:50.257 --> 00:50:53.677 He like tries to tell her and he tries to explain it to her. 00:50:53.827 --> 00:50:56.797 And he starts in this moment and then she kisses him. 00:50:57.067 --> 00:50:59.947 And first of all, questionably, not a consensual kiss. 00:51:00.048 --> 00:51:10.338 She, she kisses him and then he enjoyed the kiss and in that moment he made the executive decision to not try to tell her otherwise. 00:51:10.639 --> 00:51:13.728 And he, like, she asks him like, well, what were you saying? 00:51:13.789 --> 00:51:14.688 I can get sex. 00:51:14.708 --> 00:51:15.068 Yeah. 00:51:15.099 --> 00:51:16.539 Like it was just like a very. 00:51:17.318 --> 00:51:20.829 Very executive decision not to tell her because he wants to sleep with her. 00:51:21.018 --> 00:51:24.818 And I think that that is the moment in which a crossover to no longer being. 00:51:24.818 --> 00:51:25.239 Okay. 00:51:25.268 --> 00:51:35.278 Because before that it was like, he was kind of just like riding this wave, but this person thinks I'm this person, I'm trying to tell her, but also I'm not really pushing it that hard, you know? 00:51:35.278 --> 00:51:37.918 And like, it's kind of an awkward situation. 00:51:38.248 --> 00:51:40.168 And then she kisses him. 00:51:40.378 --> 00:51:42.838 He's like, I, a hundred percent want to sleep with her. 00:51:42.898 --> 00:51:43.949 I'm not going to tell her. 00:51:44.398 --> 00:51:49.739 And then he only decides to tell her again, when she becomes inconvenient to him. 00:51:49.768 --> 00:51:50.248 Yeah. 00:51:50.489 --> 00:51:53.099 And I think that's really important to point 00:51:53.099 --> 00:51:53.338 out. 00:51:53.369 --> 00:51:53.668 Yeah. 00:51:53.789 --> 00:51:57.778 I, yes, I am very grateful that you pointed that out. 00:51:57.840 --> 00:52:01.829 So then for the next scene, wait, where are we? 00:52:01.860 --> 00:52:02.250 Sorry. 00:52:02.340 --> 00:52:03.329 We're back in the library. 00:52:03.380 --> 00:52:03.690 Right? 00:52:03.690 --> 00:52:08.010 So now we're back to the library and Emilie, do you want to sing with me? 00:52:08.340 --> 00:52:08.730 That's 00:52:08.730 --> 00:52:12.210 another thing that you don't want to do, everybody. 00:52:12.210 --> 00:52:15.030 That's another thing that you don't 00:52:15.030 --> 00:52:15.389 want. 00:52:15.420 --> 00:52:16.920 Oh, we didn't want to say the first part. 00:52:17.579 --> 00:52:18.690 There'll be times. 00:52:19.019 --> 00:52:19.949 How do you, how does it go. 00:52:21.329 --> 00:52:21.929 I'm forgetting. 00:52:22.289 --> 00:52:22.590 It's the 00:52:22.590 --> 00:52:25.550 part where like, there'll be times when you get older and you 00:52:25.559 --> 00:52:25.889 want 00:52:25.889 --> 00:52:30.750 to touch each other or something when you'll want to sleep with people just to make them like you. 00:52:31.079 --> 00:52:34.469 But don't cause that's another thing. 00:52:34.980 --> 00:52:36.000 That's actually good advice. 00:52:36.119 --> 00:52:36.619 Yeah. 00:52:38.579 --> 00:52:40.019 I was like, this is actually great advice. 00:52:40.019 --> 00:52:41.460 I don't see anything wrong, 00:52:41.489 --> 00:52:42.690 decent, decent advice. 00:52:43.019 --> 00:52:46.650 Probably not age appropriate, but what very good advice. 00:52:46.920 --> 00:52:50.489 Very good advice for the people in the back of the room, adults. 00:52:51.369 --> 00:52:54.269 It's a, I mean, it's not age appropriate? 00:52:54.300 --> 00:53:19.110 You don't like, I would argue that if as a society, we were able to have more healthy, open conversations with kids of all ages about the, about the sex, about sex and accepting that some people, not everyone choose to have sex, like for pleasure at certain ages and being able to like openly have conversations like this, 00:53:19.139 --> 00:53:26.400 I would feel that way if they were like 13 or like 11 to like 15 year olds. 00:53:26.429 --> 00:53:28.800 But these kids were like clearly like four and five 00:53:30.059 --> 00:53:33.599 Were they look more like eight, at least they were like pretty young. 00:53:34.019 --> 00:53:36.210 I would have felt like it was like a library, I guess. 00:53:36.210 --> 00:53:40.710 So it's like, yeah, it's not, it's like a, it's an age where maybe you're right. 00:53:40.710 --> 00:53:41.639 There's still a little bit too young. 00:53:41.699 --> 00:53:42.300 I don't know. 00:53:42.329 --> 00:53:42.960 I don't know. 00:53:43.079 --> 00:53:45.780 I would love to talk to someone who has maybe 00:53:46.380 --> 00:53:47.369 more sex education. 00:53:48.329 --> 00:53:52.110 Send us an email at WT g-mail mail.com. 00:53:52.380 --> 00:53:52.829 Where is it? 00:53:52.829 --> 00:53:56.610 Sounded like you were asking me and I was like a little bit, I'm not, 00:53:58.500 --> 00:54:00.780 but then doesn't email people in. 00:54:00.789 --> 00:54:01.889 She had gmail.com. 00:54:01.956 --> 00:54:17.556 Yeah, so I love, I love the F.R.I.E.N.D.S, the way that they've chosen to support her and like Monica Chandler and Rachel in the background, when she finishes that song where it's like, excellent, very informative, not at all inappropriate. 00:54:18.367 --> 00:54:22.447 I'm really trying to like, you know, sway the popular opinion. 00:54:25.717 --> 00:54:28.536 Please see this enough will other people believe it. 00:54:29.797 --> 00:54:30.336 That's great. 00:54:30.385 --> 00:54:30.894 Yeah. 00:54:30.925 --> 00:54:35.686 And, and I think that we, you know, we see her do the kiss thing again to him. 00:54:35.666 --> 00:54:41.525 Like she kind of reverses it Phoebe with, with Chris Isaac or Rob Dan and whatever his name is in the show. 00:54:41.527 --> 00:54:46.927 And then he says to her, I think people are hoping that you could sing more songs about barnyard animals. 00:54:47.228 --> 00:54:52.077 And I just think that's like, you know, I think that if Phoebe wasn't a vegetarian that would have been fine. 00:54:52.077 --> 00:54:52.918 It would have been fine. 00:54:52.947 --> 00:54:56.608 But you know, don't ask him a and to sing songs about barnyard animals. 00:54:56.878 --> 00:54:57.268 Yeah. 00:54:57.387 --> 00:54:59.847 Because we all know what farms are really about. 00:54:59.909 --> 00:55:04.108 But we're, we'll get to that song in a hot sec, but I do want to point out that. 00:55:05.429 --> 00:55:07.619 I do feel personal. 00:55:07.648 --> 00:55:10.199 I mean, anyway, I don't have kids. 00:55:10.498 --> 00:55:16.500 I can't really go about telling people how to raise their kids, because that is the most annoying thing for anyone to do. 00:55:17.219 --> 00:55:21.780 But I felt blatantly state my opinion here, because that's what I do. 00:55:23.550 --> 00:55:36.052 I do think that it's very easy to get overly protective of your child and like, not want to tell them things that they 00:55:36.742 --> 00:55:38.242 actually probably can understand. 00:55:38.523 --> 00:55:48.083 They actually probably can process, you know, if done in like a safe environment for the kid to process things like kids can process hard things, you know? 00:55:48.077 --> 00:55:52.686 Like she later has a song which like, you know, shits on by people, but what else is new in the nineties? 00:55:52.748 --> 00:55:58.059 Like some, like sometimes been like women, sometimes men like men. 00:55:58.239 --> 00:56:09.588 Like I do think that that's like a very cute way to like remind children that there's like, you can like different genders. 00:56:06.889 --> 00:56:11.898 Quinn (they/them): And yeah, that difficult of a concept. 00:56:11.931 --> 00:56:16.793 And but I do also want to point out that sometimes there are bisexuals, 00:56:18.233 --> 00:56:20.753 but sometimes I think the resistance. 00:56:21.188 --> 00:56:32.409 It's to telling kids hard things is that also parents don't really know themselves, a lot of that information or how to broach that topic even with themselves. 00:56:32.798 --> 00:56:39.021 And I think that that's just like something to consider that like it's all cyclical, right? 00:56:39.110 --> 00:56:39.650 Yeah. 00:56:39.920 --> 00:56:42.650 And also like when you have a kid, is it like, are you uncomfortable? 00:56:42.681 --> 00:56:44.690 Like, do you think it's not age appropriate for the child? 00:56:44.690 --> 00:56:51.231 Or is it that, like, this might be a difficult topic for you to try to also understand kind of thing, you know? 00:56:51.260 --> 00:56:51.554 Yeah. 00:56:51.554 --> 00:56:52.364 It's hard to say. 00:56:52.414 --> 00:56:55.594 Parenting parenting is very hard. 00:56:55.684 --> 00:56:58.474 So I don't have kids don't listen to me. 00:56:58.523 --> 00:57:06.954 We've said a lot of controversial things today, potentially the most controversial thing that has been said is quit telling people with children, how to raise their children, 00:57:08.514 --> 00:57:09.443 raise their children. 00:57:09.744 --> 00:57:15.204 I am just, you know, putting topics like considerations on the table, 00:57:15.233 --> 00:57:15.594 for sure. 00:57:15.623 --> 00:57:15.893 For sure. 00:57:15.918 --> 00:57:21.889 And I guess this is coming up specifically right now, you know, I'll just segue right into it and say that. 00:57:21.894 --> 00:57:31.757 So if anyone isn't aware, recently there has been remains of indigenous children that have been found in various unmarked graves across Canada. 00:57:31.807 --> 00:57:40.675 This is very integrated into the genocide against indigenous folks that has been the basis of Canada and what Canada has basically been built on. 00:57:40.675 --> 00:57:47.110 And Canada, like mainstream and government wide has, has tried to hide this for a very long time, as well as the Catholic church. 00:57:47.501 --> 00:57:51.911 And now some indigenous groups have been able to find these unmarked graves. 00:57:52.240 --> 00:58:02.628 And anyway, so this has led to schools starting to have more of these conversations with a wider age range, essentially. 00:58:03.137 --> 00:58:14.197 And I have heard of some parents struggling because kids are coming back with information and they don't know how to help process with the kids because it has been left out of their school system. 00:58:14.226 --> 00:58:17.257 And like just how this like creates this counter effective. 00:58:18.172 --> 00:58:22.731 Parents not wanting the kids to learn about this in school, but that's really not. 00:58:22.791 --> 00:58:25.581 They have to deal with it because then sit at home, 00:58:25.612 --> 00:58:32.061 they have to learn about it and actually process it and be able to conduct these conversations with their kids. 00:58:32.061 --> 00:58:35.152 But it's not the teaching it in schools. 00:58:35.152 --> 00:58:36.172 That is the problem. 00:58:36.172 --> 00:58:44.541 The problem is that the parents weren't taught it and this is something that's been hidden and like kept under wraps for so long. 00:58:44.541 --> 00:58:45.507 And and 00:58:45.568 --> 00:58:53.518 well, and also it's been very present and a lot of people just have decided not to learn about it too. 00:58:53.668 --> 00:58:53.938 Yeah. 00:58:54.027 --> 00:58:58.947 I mean more like systemically it's been like on the DL and its sentence. 00:58:59.237 --> 00:58:59.367 Yeah. 00:58:59.748 --> 00:59:11.157 I think of just how, like, I remember, I remember being a teenager when I understood finally that like colonization was not a good thing. 00:59:11.458 --> 00:59:27.057 Like up until then my like entire framework of like the history of Canada had framed it that like colonization benefited indigenous people like this really kind of fucked up understanding of history. 00:59:27.057 --> 00:59:29.577 And like my generation is. 00:59:29.697 --> 00:59:31.557 I'm a millennial, right. 00:59:31.557 --> 00:59:42.478 Like, you know, and I think, I think we're still not there yet in terms of what we're teaching in schools about, about Canadian history. 00:59:42.545 --> 00:59:44.271 But yeah, yeah. 00:59:44.300 --> 00:59:53.451 All that, to say that sometimes adults have to learn about hard shit and, and sometimes we learn it best from people who are younger than us. 00:59:54.860 --> 00:59:55.070 Yeah. 00:59:55.070 --> 00:59:55.880 No, exactly. 00:59:55.911 --> 00:59:56.648 And yeah. 00:59:56.768 --> 00:59:57.248 Yeah. 00:59:57.648 --> 01:00:01.188 So we're at the zoo again, do you remember what time we were at 01:00:01.818 --> 01:00:02.688 the San Diego zoo? 01:00:02.809 --> 01:00:03.318 Oh, wow. 01:00:04.369 --> 01:00:06.259 You said that like five seconds ago. 01:00:08.128 --> 01:00:12.619 Damnit - I was like Emilie so good at F.R.I.E.N.D.S trivia. 01:00:13.759 --> 01:00:14.509 I am. 01:00:15.559 --> 01:00:17.719 But also you set up five seconds ago. 01:00:17.748 --> 01:00:18.829 I also knew that. 01:00:19.215 --> 01:00:21.585 So let's talk about zoos for a hot sec here. 01:00:22.605 --> 01:00:24.855 Let's specifically talk with the San Diego zoo. 01:00:25.304 --> 01:00:30.434 Wait, that's why I was confused because you're saying in the script, he said, he's, I'm going to the LA 01:00:30.945 --> 01:00:32.235 San Diego's in LA. 01:00:32.864 --> 01:00:33.494 No, it's not 01:00:33.494 --> 01:00:34.184 California. 01:00:34.514 --> 01:00:34.934 Yes. 01:00:35.175 --> 01:00:38.014 But they're different places in California. 01:00:39.465 --> 01:00:42.914 Sandiago and Los Angeles are two hours and 45 minutes away from each other. 01:00:42.945 --> 01:00:43.275 Yeah. 01:00:43.304 --> 01:00:46.275 But he's, he's in New York, which is the east coast. 01:00:46.304 --> 01:00:46.635 Right. 01:00:46.695 --> 01:00:49.275 And he's going to LA for a conference, 01:00:49.304 --> 01:00:49.695 whatever 01:00:50.157 --> 01:00:51.057 Okay. 01:00:51.568 --> 01:00:53.668 So let's circle back around here. 01:00:54.717 --> 01:00:55.827 We're at the San Diego zoo. 01:00:55.878 --> 01:00:57.967 Emilie, I want to tell you a little bit about the San Diego zoo. 01:00:58.088 --> 01:00:58.538 Okay. 01:00:58.568 --> 01:01:00.097 Just a little bit, a little sprinkle. 01:01:00.128 --> 01:01:11.768 So let's start off by saying that like San Diego zoo is known for the fact that has open air cages and is known for having like more like habitat style. 01:01:11.835 --> 01:01:13.724 I guess like cages, essentially, 01:01:14.764 --> 01:01:16.063 why do I feel like you're about to do. 01:01:16.798 --> 01:01:21.628 You know, lul us into a sense of false sense of comfort. 01:01:21.688 --> 01:01:33.449 I guess I want to say is that like, by reading that you could assume that like, that, that is why Ross was so happy to get Marcel into this zoo, you know, it's like, he's going to be kind of living in his natural habitat. 01:01:33.478 --> 01:01:37.318 They've been known to be like, kind of progressive in that way. 01:01:37.333 --> 01:01:46.179 Also a fun fact about San Diego zoo is that it's on a list of the top 10 zoos as being the worst for the treatment of elephants. 01:01:46.246 --> 01:01:46.976 Not surprised. 01:01:47.208 --> 01:01:47.688 Yeah. 01:01:47.809 --> 01:01:51.679 So now let's just talk about zoos as a whole. 01:01:51.681 --> 01:02:03.222 Emilie, what are w what do you feel like the like perceptions of zoos in general, my perception, or the general general, the general public's perception you've been monitoring for way too many years. 01:02:03.641 --> 01:02:04.692 I'm not talking about your opinion. 01:02:05.862 --> 01:02:07.572 I've been in doesn't matter. 01:02:07.556 --> 01:02:12.806 I do think that like, people think of zoos as a place in which they can learn about nature. 01:02:13.047 --> 01:02:22.407 And it's a great way to learn about nature and teach children and teach each other about animals and the way that animals work, et cetera, et cetera. 01:02:22.436 --> 01:02:31.213 And like, I think that we kind of tell ourselves this slide, that, that this is going to allow us to appreciate animals more, et cetera, et cetera. 01:02:31.244 --> 01:02:35.416 But in reality, I think that zoos are just created for us. 01:02:35.447 --> 01:02:38.896 Put they're just not necessary in my opinion, not necessary. 01:02:39.077 --> 01:02:48.916 I think that there is, there's plenty of ways to learn and interact with animals and wildlife in a way that does not keep animals in captivity. 01:02:48.976 --> 01:02:49.427 Yeah. 01:02:49.817 --> 01:02:50.387 And so, okay. 01:02:50.447 --> 01:03:04.577 I actually really like to use that word captivity because I want to like really emphasize here that these are animals in captivity for entertainment that don't belong here. 01:03:04.637 --> 01:03:04.876 Yeah. 01:03:04.907 --> 01:03:07.157 The don't belong in captivity. 01:03:07.277 --> 01:03:08.717 They do not thrive in captivity. 01:03:09.436 --> 01:03:10.336 Don't belong in captivity. 01:03:10.367 --> 01:03:12.047 They don't belong here. 01:03:12.106 --> 01:03:12.556 Right? 01:03:12.617 --> 01:03:16.186 Like, yeah, we don't have pandas in north America. 01:03:16.217 --> 01:03:18.407 We don't have lions in north America. 01:03:18.436 --> 01:03:20.387 We don't have giraffes in north America. 01:03:20.416 --> 01:03:25.936 These are animals that are put on boats and planes don't think planes, you can't put a draft on a plane. 01:03:26.327 --> 01:03:27.527 It feels like a knock-knock joke. 01:03:28.786 --> 01:03:30.496 Can you feel better off in a plane? 01:03:30.556 --> 01:03:31.817 Depends on plane. 01:03:32.476 --> 01:03:33.317 Depends on the draft. 01:03:34.817 --> 01:03:35.117 Wow. 01:03:35.146 --> 01:03:35.387 That's 01:03:35.597 --> 01:03:36.376 interesting. 01:03:36.737 --> 01:03:38.626 Definitely boats, definitely boats. 01:03:40.456 --> 01:03:41.086 Anyway. 01:03:41.126 --> 01:03:50.719 Anyway, it's not even animals have been shipped to north America for our entertainment in usually terrible conditions. 01:03:50.737 --> 01:03:53.972 And for really no, no reason at all. 01:03:54.302 --> 01:03:58.351 So I want to go through like a few different things here. 01:03:58.411 --> 01:03:58.882 I want to. 01:03:59.597 --> 01:04:03.496 First point out that zoos exist for profit. 01:04:03.856 --> 01:04:08.536 The majority of zoos even zoos who say that they exist for conservation. 01:04:08.657 --> 01:04:14.356 A lot of them it's like they have like 2% of their funds go to conservation efforts kind of thing. 01:04:14.422 --> 01:04:19.041 In, in general, zoos exist for entertainment. 01:04:19.092 --> 01:04:22.661 It's like going to Disneyland, you know? 01:04:22.753 --> 01:04:30.603 I also want to point out that animals are used as commodities in zoos. 01:04:30.664 --> 01:04:38.643 So I'm going to just kind of like talk about some pretty, I'm going to state a pretty horrific thing in a second. 01:04:39.693 --> 01:04:47.554 So I mean, but the thing is like, it's like horrific, but it's like just casual for the people in the industry. 01:04:48.003 --> 01:04:53.065 So In 2014 copenhagen's zoo a one second. 01:04:53.335 --> 01:04:55.465 Let me get the right spot here. 01:04:55.556 --> 01:05:10.585 The world reacted in shock and outrage when a healthy two-year-old giraffe named Marius was killed and cut up in front of spectators at Copenhagen zoo, and his body was fed to the lions. 01:05:12.445 --> 01:05:28.175 Now, in response to this widespread criticism, the Copenhagen zoo's scientific director defended the decision saying that the zoo had a surplus of giraffes and this is something that's done every day. 01:05:29.255 --> 01:05:39.365 And this article goes on to explain that essentially like this maneuvering of populations in zoos is a very typical thing. 01:05:39.635 --> 01:05:45.496 And on top of that, babies are a really big attraction to zoos. 01:05:45.856 --> 01:05:49.726 And so they push to breed the animals as much as possible. 01:05:49.726 --> 01:05:57.706 So that there's always a baby around because that brings people in and then essentially they get overpopulated. 01:05:57.706 --> 01:06:03.525 And so what they do is that they kill off these animals and feed them to each other. 01:06:03.525 --> 01:06:13.739 And a couple of years later, the Copenhagen zoo ended up killing for healthy lions to make room for this new male lion that they wanted to breed with. 01:06:13.838 --> 01:06:23.318 That part, the killing of the drafts to feed to the lions doesn't actually shock me, nor do I find that actually thought controversial. 01:06:23.708 --> 01:06:28.213 I do feel like giraffes are eaten by lions in the wild. 01:06:28.264 --> 01:06:36.900 I do think the, the weird part is that we've decided to put them into cages and control how this happens. 01:06:37.331 --> 01:06:49.023 That's exactly what I'm getting at is that it's a matter of like playing God, playing God in the situation breeding animals to just kill them later. 01:06:49.443 --> 01:06:53.043 It's all very, very strange. 01:06:53.344 --> 01:07:08.539 And not to mention the fact that like the animals, like very clearly indicate like being, like, we talk about zoos being like a great place to learn about animals and look, let's go see animals and like, learn about how they are and what they do. 01:07:08.521 --> 01:07:29.210 But in actuality, experts point out that like animals in zoos basically are in states of extreme anxiety and their habits and what they're doing or entirely a result of being in distress and it's, they're not like it's not like a real representation of how the animals act in the wildlife. 01:07:30.201 --> 01:07:30.440 Yeah. 01:07:30.440 --> 01:07:31.221 What was I Alyssa? 01:07:31.251 --> 01:07:34.661 I was listening to no, I'm going to just digress and then spend forever thinking about it. 01:07:34.661 --> 01:07:35.411 So let's not do that. 01:07:35.742 --> 01:07:36.012 Yeah. 01:07:36.041 --> 01:07:51.985 And I guess I also would just want to point over to I dunno if you heard of, or remember, like, I think it was maybe like a decade ago, there was like this really famous situation where a trainer got killed by the Orca whale that she trained. 01:07:52.925 --> 01:07:56.045 The documentary Blackfish that came out a couple of years ago. 01:07:56.606 --> 01:08:02.251 And it's just all about the aquatic entertainment industry, essentially like Marine land. 01:08:02.291 --> 01:08:04.961 Marine land is the place to go. 01:08:05.382 --> 01:08:08.141 Niagara falls, Ontario. 01:08:08.862 --> 01:08:16.601 If you're not from Ontario or Canada, everyone loves Marine land. 01:08:16.654 --> 01:08:18.170 It was a very catchy tune, everyone 01:08:18.270 --> 01:08:25.590 very controversial in general because of like people found out what they were doing to the dolphins in Marine land. 01:08:25.590 --> 01:08:34.800 And yeah, and also just in, in general, Marine parks are very known to be like pretty heinous situations for animals. 01:08:34.800 --> 01:08:43.238 And I haven't actually personally watched black fish, but I, I watched the trailer and I do want to watch it, but it's pretty horrifying. 01:08:43.255 --> 01:08:46.795 And then I also want to point out something like two more things. 01:08:46.824 --> 01:08:55.300 One is the fact that we have these animals in cages in places where they're not supposed to be in city centers very often. 01:08:55.510 --> 01:08:58.060 And then there's been some sort of like natural disaster. 01:08:58.824 --> 01:09:05.755 And either the animals have gotten loose or their cages have been flooded and they die because they can't escape. 01:09:05.814 --> 01:09:06.954 This sounds like Jurassic park. 01:09:06.975 --> 01:09:18.706 Or they are let out because have the natural disaster and then they're shot down because you don't want a tiger running down a city street. 01:09:19.275 --> 01:09:19.905 Not really, 01:09:20.176 --> 01:09:21.225 not usually. 01:09:21.256 --> 01:09:22.155 They shouldn't have been here to be, 01:09:22.636 --> 01:09:27.466 but there's like a reason for like why the separation exists. 01:09:27.533 --> 01:09:36.251 Anyway, I think the most important takeaway here is how zoos are actually not a proper representation of learning about animals. 01:09:36.280 --> 01:09:39.100 They're not a place to learn about animals. 01:09:39.190 --> 01:09:43.180 Also 82% of people surveyed say that they don't go there and to learn about animals. 01:09:43.180 --> 01:10:05.717 And then secondly, also the fact that like these spaces are not healthy for animals and that also now we're at a state and the world where to actually learn about animals and see how they function we have so many awesome different tools that we can access through like the internet and through the beautiful art of like videography and photography and film. 01:10:05.717 --> 01:10:17.332 And it doesn't take people putting animals in zoos and then playing God and breeding and killing animals at our will because we don't value their lives. 01:10:19.101 --> 01:10:22.551 If a lion wants to go eat a giraffe I'm totally fine with that. 01:10:22.761 --> 01:10:28.341 But I am not super keen on us deciding 01:10:29.841 --> 01:10:31.011 when and how that looks like. 01:10:31.252 --> 01:10:31.612 Yeah. 01:10:32.301 --> 01:10:32.601 Yeah. 01:10:33.591 --> 01:10:44.152 Lastly, I actually just want to take a hot second to point out that there are zoos that do genuinely work on conservation, but they're usually more considered conservationist spaces. 01:10:44.283 --> 01:10:49.231 An example of that would be the eco museum in Montreal. 01:10:49.471 --> 01:10:49.952 Oh, cool. 01:10:50.012 --> 01:10:57.572 Which is even me saying that it works with like the ninish wall, which our dad is on the board of directors for Le Nichoir, which is a bird conservation airy. 01:10:58.051 --> 01:11:01.730 And the eco museum only works with native animals. 01:11:02.091 --> 01:11:14.789 And it's actually only populated by animals who were found injured or something had happened and they can not be rehabilitated in a way to be re-released released into the wild. 01:11:14.789 --> 01:11:20.143 And so and they're all centered around basically preserving habitats for animals. 01:11:20.201 --> 01:11:27.029 To live in the wild, but if you are in a Montreal or visiting, I definitely recommend checking out the ecomuseum. 01:11:27.029 --> 01:11:27.668 Are they for profit? 01:11:28.168 --> 01:11:29.578 No, it's a, not-for-profit 01:11:29.939 --> 01:11:30.298 cool. 01:11:30.349 --> 01:11:30.587 Okay. 01:11:30.587 --> 01:11:31.037 Okay. 01:11:31.067 --> 01:11:32.565 Let's let's move forward. 01:11:32.565 --> 01:11:33.345 We gotta move forward. 01:11:33.496 --> 01:11:37.095 We have so much more to talk about animal rights and the next episode, don't worry folks. 01:11:37.126 --> 01:11:37.756 We'll get there. 01:11:37.854 --> 01:11:38.184 Okay. 01:11:38.184 --> 01:11:38.363 Yeah. 01:11:38.363 --> 01:11:40.974 So I guess we get into our next scene at the library. 01:11:40.974 --> 01:11:42.623 It's our last scene at the library. 01:11:42.663 --> 01:11:45.363 We get The Cow In The Meadow Goes Moo song. 01:11:45.423 --> 01:11:48.304 So she decides that she's going to sing about barnyard animals. 01:11:48.304 --> 01:11:54.596 And then again, coming back into this kind of animal rights conversation again, another one were controversial episodes. 01:11:54.806 --> 01:11:55.646 Can we sing it though? 01:11:56.907 --> 01:12:01.777 The cow in the meadow goes moo, the cow in the meadow goes moo. 01:12:01.997 --> 01:12:08.457 Then the farmer hits him on the head and grinds them up and thats how we get hamburgers- now chickens. 01:12:10.011 --> 01:12:11.572 I sing that song a lot to Nora. 01:12:11.671 --> 01:12:17.992 There is this weird thing that we do when we teach like kids about things that like we 01:12:17.992 --> 01:12:23.992 put, like we said, we don't put it in a song like Phoebe's doing no, we like, we slap barnyard animals on everything. 01:12:24.042 --> 01:12:38.804 There's barnyard animals in children's books, in songs, in toys, like everything is this , happy-go-lucky good farm that like, looks like a farm from like, I don't know, 300 years ago. 01:12:39.194 --> 01:12:45.764 It has a small rural town as opposed to like the way that 99.9% of like our food. 01:12:47.368 --> 01:12:48.269 Created. 01:12:48.287 --> 01:13:01.846 And it's just like it, I think that from a very young age, we teach children that animals on farms are happy and it's like this cute little farm life and everything is hunky Dory and good to go. 01:13:02.146 --> 01:13:32.096 And so I actually have no issue with Phoebe's song because it's like, it's obviously like a joke and it's a very like, you know, maybe exaggerated version of, of what happens, but, you know, farmer hits him on the head and grinds up, you know, is not actually that far off from the stun guns that they do to pigs that like shoving a metal rod in their head does them in stuns them, shooting a metal rod in their head and then grinding them up and making them into our hamburgers. 01:13:32.096 --> 01:13:35.067 And we have a very large disconnect from that process. 01:13:35.096 --> 01:13:42.663 And from a very young age, we're kind of taught that the process is a lot nicer and calmer and like more like collaborative. 01:13:42.694 --> 01:13:50.014 Like we have this like idea that like the animals are in on it too, and we're all together and it's like the circle of life and we're here to do it together. 01:13:50.283 --> 01:14:04.923 And that's just like a really unrealistic representation of the way that the majority vast majority of animals are consumed for, or animals are killed and how we raised for animal consumption. 01:14:04.953 --> 01:14:07.503 But maybe that's the extent of what we talk about it for today. 01:14:07.503 --> 01:14:08.974 Cause I know you didn't want to talk a lot about it. 01:14:09.024 --> 01:14:11.471 So then we're in Chandler and Joey's apartment 01:14:11.454 --> 01:14:14.545 everyone is sitting, watching the latest episode of Joey's show. 01:14:15.385 --> 01:14:15.835 Oh, right. 01:14:15.835 --> 01:14:21.350 But in the last scene, ross comes in showing the thing, being like, look it is Marcel. 01:14:21.381 --> 01:14:22.850 So that thing has happened. 01:14:22.850 --> 01:14:23.631 A monkey shine 01:14:23.631 --> 01:14:24.350 monkey. 01:14:24.591 --> 01:14:24.951 Yeah. 01:14:24.935 --> 01:14:26.958 Which sets us up for the next episode. 01:14:27.769 --> 01:14:33.082 And so then they're at Joey and Chandler's apartment and they're all watching days of our lives. 01:14:33.399 --> 01:14:37.650 And then there's a knock on the door and who's at the door. 01:14:37.740 --> 01:14:38.640 It's Erica. 01:14:38.699 --> 01:14:43.474 So now it's all six of them in a room and then Erica comes in and what what'd she say? 01:14:43.581 --> 01:14:44.841 How did you get here so fast? 01:14:45.020 --> 01:14:46.341 I just saw you in Salem. 01:14:48.621 --> 01:14:49.280 I'm here for you. 01:14:51.034 --> 01:14:53.645 I saw you two kissing in the doctor's lounge. 01:14:53.914 --> 01:14:56.585 I love Brooke shields, like dramatization. 01:14:56.585 --> 01:14:58.864 Like it feels like you are in the soap opera. 01:14:58.864 --> 01:14:59.435 I know exactly. 01:14:59.935 --> 01:15:01.795 There's almost like a little aspect of it. 01:15:01.824 --> 01:15:21.675 That's like she is a character from the soap opera, like kind of like you know, Rob is actually a cartoon that came to life in this episode where she actually is from the soap opera and then suddenly, somehow got plucked up and placed into the real world 01:15:21.765 --> 01:15:22.814 or into the sitcom. 01:15:24.494 --> 01:15:24.854 Yeah. 01:15:24.885 --> 01:15:25.064 Okay. 01:15:25.064 --> 01:15:25.335 Yeah. 01:15:25.725 --> 01:15:27.314 The fake real world. 01:15:27.524 --> 01:15:27.885 Yes. 01:15:27.952 --> 01:15:39.212 And then obviously Joey tries to kind of explain to her that he's, he now decides that she is finally inconvenient enough for him and she's too weird. 01:15:39.283 --> 01:15:42.042 He doesn't really want to deal with her from the tone. 01:15:42.042 --> 01:15:49.783 It seems as though he's already probably slept with her and, or had some form of like passionate intimacy. 01:15:50.292 --> 01:15:51.462 That's the terms I'm going to say. 01:15:51.703 --> 01:15:52.273 Cause she says 01:15:52.932 --> 01:15:54.403 that it's implied that they had sex. 01:15:54.403 --> 01:15:54.792 I don't know. 01:15:54.802 --> 01:15:57.042 She says, like you told me I was the only one. 01:15:57.403 --> 01:16:00.853 Oh, and interesting yeah. 01:16:00.912 --> 01:16:01.603 I don't know. 01:16:01.722 --> 01:16:03.042 Like you told me, I was the only one. 01:16:03.853 --> 01:16:05.953 I never worked together, but you're right. 01:16:06.073 --> 01:16:17.863 That, that does really like the dialogue there does really imply that they did have sex together or maybe not had sex, but like had some form of intimacy right. 01:16:18.193 --> 01:16:26.023 In, in, beyond what we saw of her, just looking at the end of dinner, you know, like I, cause, cause that is pretty intimate. 01:16:26.052 --> 01:16:37.182 It implies that he said something regarding their relationship that implies a certain level of like one-on-one connection. 01:16:37.243 --> 01:16:37.842 Right. 01:16:37.903 --> 01:16:38.292 Yeah. 01:16:39.012 --> 01:16:39.672 Interesting. 01:16:39.756 --> 01:16:47.796 So yeah, and I guess I just want to point out again, like how now that she is of no use to him anymore. 01:16:47.855 --> 01:16:49.685 It's like, I just want to get rid of her. 01:16:50.076 --> 01:16:52.685 Like I just want to throw you out essentially. 01:16:52.956 --> 01:16:53.166 Yeah. 01:16:53.181 --> 01:17:00.452 So just kind of fed up and he tries to explain it to her and then Rachel is such a great and she's like, oh, I know. 01:17:01.442 --> 01:17:02.822 And turns on the TV. 01:17:02.851 --> 01:17:03.481 Yeah. 01:17:03.516 --> 01:17:03.936 And 01:17:03.936 --> 01:17:04.957 what are you saying? 01:17:06.846 --> 01:17:09.787 I do think that this whole scene is actually really, really well. 01:17:09.846 --> 01:17:13.327 And I was just gonna say, it's another really great scene. 01:17:13.356 --> 01:17:19.957 I also want to point out is again, we, every time this happens where it's a dynamic where it's all of them in a room together. 01:17:21.037 --> 01:17:22.567 We always really love it. 01:17:22.596 --> 01:17:27.006 And this, again, it was just like a scene where like all of them, it's like, not them segmented off. 01:17:27.037 --> 01:17:29.256 It's like, I was like all of them together. 01:17:29.287 --> 01:17:31.266 Well, minus Phoebe, but yeah. 01:17:31.284 --> 01:17:32.604 Phoebe's not there gonna be getting fired. 01:17:32.670 --> 01:17:56.649 And, and you get this excellent banter of like first Ross helping out by saying he's Huns remora, which I do think that him saying Huns is like in reference to die hard because they all really love that movie die hard and they read a lot and yeah. 01:17:56.829 --> 01:17:59.010 Oh, that's such a good Emilie 01:17:59.079 --> 01:18:00.250 and the main 01:18:00.250 --> 01:18:01.720 villain brilliant today. 01:18:01.810 --> 01:18:03.880 I mean like always, but like, especially today. 01:18:04.018 --> 01:18:04.707 But 01:18:04.948 --> 01:18:06.297 then we get the excellent. 01:18:07.257 --> 01:18:07.648 Yeah. 01:18:07.677 --> 01:18:07.887 Okay. 01:18:07.887 --> 01:18:08.068 We'll 01:18:08.068 --> 01:18:09.297 follow through of everything. 01:18:09.322 --> 01:18:14.511 And yeah, so then we have, you know, Rachel, that's like, yes, it's true. 01:18:14.492 --> 01:18:25.497 Because he pretended to be Drake to, to sleep with me and then throws water in his face and then Monica comes up and it's like, and then he told me that he would run away with me and he didn't and then throws water in his face. 01:18:25.856 --> 01:18:30.537 And then I want to point out that this was not scripted. 01:18:30.657 --> 01:18:31.317 Oh yeah. 01:18:31.317 --> 01:18:32.577 Actually I did know this. 01:18:32.577 --> 01:18:32.997 Yeah. 01:18:33.027 --> 01:18:33.926 Chandler comes in. 01:18:34.811 --> 01:18:37.332 And even it wants to tell by the look on his face, 01:18:37.721 --> 01:18:39.101 always look on his face. 01:18:39.162 --> 01:18:39.572 Yeah. 01:18:39.912 --> 01:18:51.252 And apparently what I actually heard in an interview with him was that it was actually a result of him like getting, like, he is like, there's too much lapse happening without me being part of it. 01:18:51.282 --> 01:18:52.481 And so he was jealous. 01:18:52.872 --> 01:18:54.521 That sounds exactly like Chandler 01:18:55.542 --> 01:18:57.612 sounds like Chandler, but yeah, I know. 01:18:57.716 --> 01:19:04.886 So he jumps in and he's like, and you left the toilet seat up, you b****** and throws water in his face. 01:19:05.157 --> 01:19:12.636 And apparently they're like, like you could just tell for a split second, but like we're was just like stunned 01:19:13.256 --> 01:19:16.407 I want to go back and rewatch it now and then, 01:19:16.436 --> 01:19:18.476 but then it like quickly changes scene. 01:19:18.476 --> 01:19:20.426 So like changes, angles very quickly. 01:19:20.426 --> 01:19:20.636 Right. 01:19:20.646 --> 01:19:21.867 So it was like probably cut. 01:19:22.006 --> 01:19:22.646 Yeah. 01:19:22.677 --> 01:19:25.738 And then is all this true? 01:19:25.824 --> 01:19:32.005 And then we get a taste of Joey's soap, opera acting real life. 01:19:32.037 --> 01:19:38.907 And, and then, you know, he almost doesn't follow through with it because she kisses him again. 01:19:39.296 --> 01:19:43.697 And because men cannot control themselves, Emilie. 01:19:43.886 --> 01:19:44.306 Yeah. 01:19:44.337 --> 01:19:50.100 They have no ability if you kiss them and then it's really not their fault. 01:19:50.100 --> 01:19:55.319 Anything they do after that, they actually are not responsible for anything for sure. 01:19:55.680 --> 01:19:58.005 That has to do with sex in general. 01:19:58.125 --> 01:19:58.755 Yeah. 01:19:59.055 --> 01:19:59.444 Yeah. 01:19:59.895 --> 01:20:03.435 Hashtag not being serious sarcasm, 01:20:05.175 --> 01:20:06.614 hashtag opposite day, 01:20:07.574 --> 01:20:08.475 God remember that? 01:20:08.505 --> 01:20:12.704 remeber opposite day, the throw back. 01:20:12.690 --> 01:20:16.721 So I just wrote in my notes, I wrote like, she's so beautiful. 01:20:17.051 --> 01:20:23.171 I know that like that's obnoxious, but like, she was like, they just did such a good job with her. 01:20:23.171 --> 01:20:25.122 Look in this last scene. 01:20:25.362 --> 01:20:30.042 Like her like black outfit, like with the little like flower around the color. 01:20:30.221 --> 01:20:36.582 She just like, she had those when she, when she walked into the school and she goes off her gloves and she does it so well. 01:20:36.612 --> 01:20:40.811 And I also want to out, you know, again, like th this is all very much like soap, opera attire. 01:20:40.841 --> 01:20:43.391 I know, because I was watching soap operas around that time. 01:20:43.992 --> 01:20:49.849 No, wait, not quite six time, but but like, this was just like very typical soap, opera attire. 01:20:49.878 --> 01:20:50.238 Right. 01:20:50.538 --> 01:21:01.454 And like, you know, with like the like the trench coat that she shows up in originally the gloves, the gowns that she was wearing a dinner, like all of this is very, very soap opera. 01:21:01.454 --> 01:21:12.811 So again, Yeah, I'm having like like Stranger Than Fiction vibes coming out of this a little bit, you know, if we want to like put a pin in all of like the, you know, portrayal of mental health stuff. 01:21:12.841 --> 01:21:13.202 Yeah. 01:21:13.261 --> 01:21:14.011 Portrayal mental health. 01:21:14.011 --> 01:21:26.462 It's like, let's like flip over the camera to like the idea of like, you know, some writer that like wrote out a character and then like it got scrapped and thrown out and then it just so happened to like come to life in like in 01:21:26.521 --> 01:21:28.712 any, in the form of Brookfields and F.R.I.E.N.D.S. 01:21:28.712 --> 01:21:28.912 Yeah. 01:21:28.912 --> 01:21:29.181 Yeah. 01:21:29.288 --> 01:21:40.298 But yeah, wait, I need to clarify, but like one of the writers on Joey's show, like wrote this character and she was supposed to be in the show and then it got nixed. 01:21:40.298 --> 01:21:45.128 And so it's like, he like threw it in the garbage and then like some like magical fairy thing happened. 01:21:45.128 --> 01:21:53.948 And then like, you know, she came to be for real life and things that everything in the scripts are real anyway, that's I just need to really bring you down. 01:21:54.238 --> 01:22:01.088 This is like the second time that you've gone on a tangent of like this fake reality of like a TV show, you imagine. 01:22:01.149 --> 01:22:03.939 And in the last episode I had to cut some of that. 01:22:04.828 --> 01:22:05.769 Cut it out. 01:22:05.828 --> 01:22:06.748 I cut it out. 01:22:06.759 --> 01:22:11.198 Cause it was the second time we were talking about your secret fantasy of Carol and Susan's TV show. 01:22:11.229 --> 01:22:12.548 Do you at least put it in the patron feed? 01:22:12.623 --> 01:22:23.814 No, but I can, I guess, do you guys want to hear Quinn's really long tangent of their like dream Carolyn season TV show. 01:22:23.904 --> 01:22:24.804 Oh my God. 01:22:24.863 --> 01:22:25.953 Maybe I should. 01:22:27.368 --> 01:22:34.149 Like just go on and like do like a little secret Patrion episode only of like me just talking about my fantasy. 01:22:34.328 --> 01:22:35.349 Can we not do it now? 01:22:35.389 --> 01:22:35.628 Okay. 01:22:35.628 --> 01:22:37.355 So moving on so we're at central perk. 01:22:37.355 --> 01:22:38.376 The whole gang is there. 01:22:38.676 --> 01:22:39.185 No, we're not. 01:22:40.365 --> 01:22:42.195 First Phoebe's getting fired. 01:22:42.345 --> 01:22:43.456 Phoebe gets fired. 01:22:43.581 --> 01:22:49.701 And then basically she, the scene begins and she's sitting on the couch with Chris Isaac and she's just like fired. 01:22:49.701 --> 01:22:54.320 And then he's like, you know, we thought kind of that you would play some regular kiddie songs. 01:22:54.315 --> 01:22:59.025 And then she doesn't know who Bernie is and basically that's kind of the end 01:22:59.025 --> 01:23:01.786 and where my some big purple dinosaur. 01:23:03.086 --> 01:23:06.296 We get a, a scene later where we'll see it a bit more. 01:23:06.331 --> 01:23:07.801 Shout out to us on social media. 01:23:07.801 --> 01:23:13.261 If you have seen the Barney movie on the ship, where are they saying? 01:23:13.381 --> 01:23:14.791 My Bonnie lies over the ocean? 01:23:14.815 --> 01:23:16.046 The, the pirate one, 01:23:16.136 --> 01:23:16.796 the pirate one. 01:23:16.876 --> 01:23:18.256 Imagination island. 01:23:18.395 --> 01:23:19.395 Thank you very much. 01:23:20.355 --> 01:23:21.826 I dunno how many times we've watched that 01:23:21.826 --> 01:23:27.048 Barnie imagination island which is also an NBC show. 01:23:27.078 --> 01:23:28.128 Oh my God. 01:23:28.788 --> 01:23:29.118 Wow. 01:23:31.219 --> 01:23:33.319 home on the NBC sprint. 01:23:33.378 --> 01:23:34.009 Yeah. 01:23:34.051 --> 01:23:41.220 I want to do a special shout out to Rachel, our cousin who forced us to watch a lot of Barney growing up. 01:23:41.740 --> 01:23:46.631 And then she says specifically Phoebe says specifically in the scene, she says the kids want to hear the truth. 01:23:47.711 --> 01:23:52.060 And I think that's interesting because I think kids, most of the time, do you want to hear the truth? 01:23:52.411 --> 01:23:52.541 Right? 01:23:52.690 --> 01:23:53.291 I agree. 01:23:53.341 --> 01:23:54.180 Okay. 01:23:54.360 --> 01:23:56.881 So now everyone's in central perk. 01:23:56.988 --> 01:23:59.538 And then Joey walks in and he says 01:23:59.587 --> 01:24:04.559 well I track down Marcel and get this he's happy, happy, healthy. 01:24:04.798 --> 01:24:07.588 And right here in New York filming outbreak too, right? 01:24:07.588 --> 01:24:07.889 Yes. 01:24:07.889 --> 01:24:08.668 That's the scene. 01:24:08.657 --> 01:24:10.882 And so Rachel's like, you're kidding. 01:24:11.243 --> 01:24:14.662 And then a kid enters 01:24:18.483 --> 01:24:19.912 little, that kid, he looks, 01:24:19.912 --> 01:24:23.092 so he does look super familiar probably from NBC. 01:24:23.993 --> 01:24:24.533 Can you look it up? 01:24:24.712 --> 01:24:33.292 But then also I love like the very, it's a very Oliver twist that comes here or you like opens the door. 01:24:33.653 --> 01:24:37.002 He's like, excuse me, this please. 01:24:37.613 --> 01:24:38.722 Could I have some more? 01:24:39.943 --> 01:24:44.162 This kid is Tahj Mow ry. 01:24:44.512 --> 01:24:45.863 Oh my God. 01:24:45.863 --> 01:24:48.682 He was in that Disney show called smart guy. 01:24:48.693 --> 01:24:52.493 Do you remember that Disney show where he's like a little nerd? 01:24:52.762 --> 01:24:53.243 Oh my God. 01:24:53.243 --> 01:24:57.412 It ran like 1997 to 1999. 01:24:57.563 --> 01:24:59.512 It was an old show. 01:24:59.512 --> 01:25:00.292 I remember that. 01:25:01.922 --> 01:25:03.273 And he was also in full house. 01:25:03.273 --> 01:25:06.932 He was just on a show called baby daddy for a hundred episodes 01:25:07.212 --> 01:25:10.453 so the kid goes, excuse me, is this where the singing lady tells the truth? 01:25:10.752 --> 01:25:14.323 And and then he turns around and he goes, she's here. 01:25:14.344 --> 01:25:16.993 And all of these kids run in and okay. 01:25:17.113 --> 01:25:21.644 It was a fashion thing in the nineties, these hats that they're wearing. 01:25:22.394 --> 01:25:25.774 And these like funny, like Tweety coats that are like. 01:25:26.628 --> 01:25:38.748 Kind of like almost old-timey, but, and so I can't tell if this was like set up to be kind of Oliver twist E ask, or if it was just the, literally the fashion of children at the time. 01:25:39.019 --> 01:25:39.529 Interesting. 01:25:39.529 --> 01:25:40.099 Interesting. 01:25:41.328 --> 01:25:41.868 Anyway. 01:25:41.988 --> 01:25:42.408 Wow. 01:25:42.828 --> 01:25:46.009 If anyone knows, let you give us a shout out on Twitter. 01:25:46.158 --> 01:25:48.408 Cause we we're on Twitter tweet. 01:25:50.238 --> 01:25:52.038 You are losing it 01:25:53.248 --> 01:25:55.798 The whole gang is walking up to the movie set. 01:25:56.009 --> 01:25:57.958 No, you missed the most important part. 01:25:58.798 --> 01:25:59.969 Reading the script. 01:26:05.998 --> 01:26:09.689 You missed the end, but like the only time in 01:26:10.078 --> 01:26:13.559 life times, men love women. 01:26:13.889 --> 01:26:19.139 Sometimes men love men and there are bisexuals, but some 01:26:19.139 --> 01:26:20.399 just think they're kidding 01:26:20.399 --> 01:26:22.078 themselves. 01:26:22.349 --> 01:26:22.618 Yeah. 01:26:22.649 --> 01:26:27.779 So anyways nineties, in which everyone thought bisexuals weren't real, also same thing as now. 01:26:28.019 --> 01:26:29.998 No one thinks bisexuals are real. 01:26:29.993 --> 01:26:38.581 It is kind of this funny thing where people like people think that bisexual men are just gay and people think that bisexual women are just straight. 01:26:39.360 --> 01:26:43.201 And so it was just like queer people just only like men. 01:26:43.860 --> 01:26:50.454 Can I tell you a story of of my experience with people only believing that bisexuals don't exist? 01:26:50.574 --> 01:26:50.935 Yes. 01:26:51.002 --> 01:27:00.952 So way back when in my, I think like my first more adult long-term relationship, I was dating someone who came from a very conservative family. 01:27:01.014 --> 01:27:06.139 And I, you know, at this point, I think we're like a couple of years into our relationship. 01:27:06.139 --> 01:27:10.609 At least basically married had my entire life mapped out for me. 01:27:10.742 --> 01:27:16.082 And was still kind of like figuring myself out, like definitely 01:27:16.322 --> 01:27:17.072 you were young. 01:27:17.502 --> 01:27:21.971 I was like 20, 19, maybe at the time, 18 at the time. 01:27:21.971 --> 01:27:27.462 And like, definitely like was queer, but could not like figure it out within myself 01:27:27.492 --> 01:27:30.221 nor do you have that word I think in your vocabulary? 01:27:30.431 --> 01:27:31.061 Definitely not. 01:27:31.391 --> 01:27:43.659 And so I essentially my CIS male straight partner very much was very strongly like bisexuals do not exist. 01:27:43.744 --> 01:28:04.085 I remember us having this conversation and then me, we were in the car and I ended up like bawling my eyes out because I was like pinned back against a wall of being like, but I know that I also am not like I'm not straight, which then means like, oh, am I actually gay? 01:28:04.444 --> 01:28:10.685 And does that mean that like, I can't be with you because I am just actually gay. 01:28:11.314 --> 01:28:21.234 And so like turned into me, like literally having a, like, full on cataclismic crying for about 45 minutes as we were in the car. 01:28:21.534 --> 01:28:31.898 And anyway, so just to let everyone know bisexuals are real and, and it's more harmful to erase them than it is to just be like, they're real. 01:28:32.016 --> 01:28:32.346 Yeah. 01:28:32.587 --> 01:28:32.856 Yeah. 01:28:32.856 --> 01:28:37.356 I, and I even have my own like internalized bi-phobia. 01:28:37.395 --> 01:28:41.824 I'll often just be like, oh, well, maybe I am just really, really straight. 01:28:41.824 --> 01:28:46.564 Like if I'm like watching a TV show and I'm like, I'm only attracted to the male characters on this TV show right now. 01:28:46.595 --> 01:28:51.694 Or like all like walk by someone who I think is like cute and like mask presenting. 01:28:51.694 --> 01:28:56.255 And I'm just like, definitely straight, but like obviously, no, I'm not. 01:28:56.255 --> 01:28:57.694 And then like other times. 01:28:58.699 --> 01:29:03.979 Find myself very particularly attracted to people who are very much not men. 01:29:05.539 --> 01:29:08.750 And I'm just like, I'm like, oh no, no, I'm a hundred percent gay. 01:29:08.750 --> 01:29:11.960 Like I'm probably actually maybe just a lesbian. 01:29:12.199 --> 01:29:27.739 And then I'm like, well, why or why, why do I feel this need to, like, I have to somehow fit into this box of either only being into men or only being into women are only being in delaying, you know, gender non-conforming people. 01:29:27.739 --> 01:29:33.529 Like it's just like, you can just fucking like people and that's great. 01:29:34.579 --> 01:29:37.130 Be attracted to who you're fucking attracted to you. 01:29:38.420 --> 01:29:39.050 It's beautiful. 01:29:39.140 --> 01:29:42.260 It's beautiful fluidity. 01:29:44.899 --> 01:29:47.930 I don't think we're going to get gay on this episode, but we did. 01:29:51.350 --> 01:29:56.350 I mean, bi! 01:29:56.449 --> 01:30:10.239 And so then we're in our last scene and that everyone's on this city streets and I'm walking up to a crowd and to like the end of a fence line and the security guard won't let them through. 01:30:10.569 --> 01:30:14.949 And so instead they all start singing in the throwback song. 01:30:14.979 --> 01:30:20.600 There's so many songs in this episode of in the jungle, in the jungle, the mighty jungle it's actually called the lion sleeps tonight. 01:30:21.680 --> 01:30:23.119 In the jungle. 01:30:23.270 --> 01:30:25.369 Are we singing mighty jungle? 01:30:25.640 --> 01:30:27.350 The lion sleeps. 01:30:27.380 --> 01:30:33.829 I don't want to say, Ooh. 01:30:35.600 --> 01:30:41.479 I also want to point out that like, Joey, it starts doing that, like vibrato or whatever. 01:30:42.260 --> 01:30:42.439 Yeah. 01:30:42.439 --> 01:30:45.619 Like he beat takes on this, like what's it called? 01:30:45.979 --> 01:30:47.449 Oh, Alto soprano. 01:30:47.449 --> 01:30:48.079 One of those. 01:30:48.649 --> 01:30:51.739 And it was just like very unexpected. 01:30:51.739 --> 01:30:52.909 His singing talents. 01:30:52.909 --> 01:30:55.279 Like part of me is like, was that actually him? 01:30:55.337 --> 01:30:58.724 And then there's another part of me is like, can I see an 01:30:58.724 --> 01:30:59.923 actor in New York? 01:30:59.923 --> 01:31:01.123 He has to know how to sing. 01:31:01.753 --> 01:31:02.713 He's excellent. 01:31:02.713 --> 01:31:08.363 On Broadway as we have seen, what was that name of that play that he was in, in season one? 01:31:08.367 --> 01:31:12.560 Freud! You said it with the excellent. 01:31:12.604 --> 01:31:13.114 Okay. 01:31:13.204 --> 01:31:17.675 But actually you forgot about the last scene in which he is sitting with Chris 01:31:17.704 --> 01:31:18.425 Isaac. 01:31:18.635 --> 01:31:19.204 Right. 01:31:19.295 --> 01:31:19.715 And there's 01:31:20.225 --> 01:31:20.675 Isaac. 01:31:20.676 --> 01:31:31.595 And then she like kind of laughs at him because she says that he might want to pick a more masculine note, which is like, they're obviously making fun of the whole scenario. 01:31:31.595 --> 01:31:37.235 Like, I don't actually feel like, like gender binary insulted by this joke because they're like, 01:31:37.265 --> 01:31:38.935 I mean it is rooted in that 01:31:39.036 --> 01:31:44.796 I get it, but the point he's like, he is well-known for his like right. 01:31:44.886 --> 01:31:47.855 His specific vocal range. 01:31:47.886 --> 01:31:51.155 And he's like very regarded for it. 01:31:51.155 --> 01:31:53.525 And it's like, and praise for it, you know? 01:31:53.525 --> 01:31:57.515 I think it could have hit home just as much, if not better. 01:31:57.515 --> 01:31:59.786 If she was sort of like, you're kind of off key. 01:32:00.655 --> 01:32:00.926 Right. 01:32:00.926 --> 01:32:05.246 You know, like, like, you know, because it's like, and he's harmonizing, right. 01:32:05.246 --> 01:32:09.416 So it's not like technically the melodic key. 01:32:09.445 --> 01:32:09.865 Right. 01:32:10.286 --> 01:32:16.496 And that's what I wanted to say, Joe is, was harmonizing before, but like, there's so much music, so much harmonizing, so many voices. 01:32:16.525 --> 01:32:17.497 And the 01:32:17.497 --> 01:32:18.756 end, the end. 01:32:18.877 --> 01:32:19.506 That's all. 01:32:19.567 --> 01:32:33.742 So you can catch us two Tuesdays from now with the next episode, us continuing into part two of the Superbowl episode considering the state that we are currently in, which is how would you describe, 01:32:35.301 --> 01:32:40.162 I want to say, like, I'm feeling hot, sweaty and like 01:32:40.221 --> 01:32:40.881 stinky? 01:32:41.362 --> 01:32:41.782 I dunno. 01:32:41.782 --> 01:32:44.391 I'm feeling like sweaty uncomfortable. 01:32:44.421 --> 01:32:48.502 So like, I like dark because the light is like tired. 01:32:48.561 --> 01:32:49.042 Yeah. 01:32:49.131 --> 01:32:50.962 Anyway, everything's falling apart over here. 01:32:50.962 --> 01:32:57.921 So stay tuned for in two weeks from now when you find out how the next hour and a half of a recording turns out. 01:32:58.042 --> 01:32:59.920 Anyway how are we going to end this one? 01:33:00.250 --> 01:33:04.000 I think we can just say bye and let our provost role takeover 01:33:06.050 --> 01:33:13.909 keep see you next time and keep deconstructing and diversifying. 01:33:13.949 --> 01:33:14.329 We say 01:33:14.329 --> 01:33:18.260 that at the end of my semester anyways, that's it. 01:33:20.539 --> 01:33:20.890 I 01:33:21.380 --> 01:33:22.430 feel like there's no closure. 01:33:23.000 --> 01:33:23.600 I love you. 01:33:23.689 --> 01:33:24.079 Everything 01:33:24.079 --> 01:33:25.010 sucks.