EP 41: Forbidden Shrooms and Tapping into Your Emotions with Actress Noel Elie

Noel Elie is an LA-based actress, director, and founder of a production PR company. Noel was diagnosed with Lyme disease this past year after many years of pain and fibroids going on untreated. She discusses how she felt silenced by the Western medical community that told her she was fine or inversely recommended high, long-term doses of antibiotics.  After finding the right Lyme doctor and researching ways to improve her overall wellness,  Noel is on her healing journey and ready to share the tips and regimens that have kept her symptoms at bay.

Tune in to hear Noel talk about the importance of recognizing and working through your emotions as well as the power of plant-based medicine.

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Transcript

 Mimi:
Welcome to The Heal Podcast for all things related to Lyme disease and other chronic illnesses. I'm Mimi MacLean, mom of five, founder of Lyme 360 and a Lyme warrior. Tune in each week to hear from doctors, health, practitioners, and experts to hear about their treatments, struggles and triumphs to help you on your healing journey. I'm here to heal with you.

Mimi:
Welcome back to the Heal Podcast. This is Mimi. And today we have on Noel Ellie, and she is a award nominated actress, director, writer, and producer, and she is also the CEO of a production and PR company. She is also a chronic Lyme warrior, like the rest of us. And so we are here to hear her story and hear about her journey.

Mimi:
To get my detox for Lyme checklist, go to Lyme360.com/detoxchecklist.

Mimi:
Noel, thank you so much for coming on today. I really appreciate it. I'm so excited to hear about your journey with chronic Lyme. So thank you for coming on.

Noel:
Yeah, thank you for having me. It's a pleasure.

Mimi:
Good. Awesome. So can we start out with just, I guess how long ago did you find out you had Lyme?

Noel:
Sure. So I found out sort of unofficially in the summer and then officially just a few months ago, but my sort of journey into it was in, I would say, like 2017, I noticed a lump in my stomach and it was below my belly button and I was like, "This is weird and it stayed there didn't go away." And so I went to the doctor and the doctor was like, "I don't know what you're talking about. Maybe you ate a little too much." And I was like, "Oh, all right. I don't think so, but okay." So fast forward another year goes by and this place and my stomach gets bigger and bigger. So then I WebMD it, right. Which is first mistake. And I'm like, okay, "It's either ovarian cancer or something." And I was terrified because my mom passed away from stage four metastatic breast cancer in 2016. So I was thinking, "Oh no. What's going on?"

Noel:
And then I happened to be walking down Santa Monica and there was a poster and it said, "Do you have ..." and it read off all of these symptoms. And I was like, "Yes, yes, yes." You may have fibroids. I had never heard of fibroids. Fibroids are tumors that are 90% of the time benign, but nevertheless tumors. So I went to my OB-GYN and sure enough, she was like, "Oh yeah, you got two fibroids."

Noel:
Okay. So what does that have to do with Lyme disease? I then continued to research and we tested me to see if I had the BRCA gene, is this related to cancer in some form? I did not. And I went to a couple of specialists and they said, "Oh, well you can do surgery to have them removed, but let's get you a MRI just to be sure there's two." I didn't want to do the surgery if I didn't have to, but okay. I got the MRI and I have anywhere from 10 to 20. I have so many, they don't even know. And one, the one now below my belly button has gotten so big it's the size of a grapefruit. I have one, that's the size of a lemon. One that's the size of a lime. I basically have a fruit basket in my belly.

Noel:
I then was astonished, but continued to research because as you know, you have to be your own advocate, right. And the doctor said, "We can do the surgery to have them removed, but they will likely come back. So you're going to have scars all over your stomach and they're going to come back or you can have a hysterectomy." And the hysterectomy is one of the number one surgeries in our country. And the number one reason for hysterectomies are fibroids, but it's not getting to the root of the cause. So what in the world? So I go to all of these other specialists-

Mimi:
Well, did you have other symptoms though? Were you tired? Did you have aches and pains?

Noel:
So many symptoms for sure. So the symptoms that I thought were from the fibroids were lower back pain, hormonal imbalances, sleeplessness, chronic fatigue, depression, horrible stomach cramps, stomach issues in general, right. Which are all Lyme symptoms as well. So finally, my dad says, "I want you to go to this chiropractor. He's not a normal chiropractor. He does a lot of other stuff, just please go to him." And I thought, "All right. Yeah, sure." I go to him and he did kinesiology and I had never had muscle testing done in this form. And so he takes these different diseases and illnesses and puts them on your head. So you have no idea what he's testing you for. And sure enough, my body responded that I had Lyme disease, parasites, EBV, all of these things. So there's my answer.

Noel:
But still my rational brain was like, "I can't rely on just my body. We have to have this scientific proof." So I went to several doctors after that, including infectious disease specialist and every test I took, "You don't have Lyme."

Mimi:
He gave you Lyme tests, like blood tests?

Noel:
Western blot. "You don't have Lyme. You're fine. No, you don't have parasites. You don't." So then you start to feel crazy.

Mimi:
Yeah, of course.

Noel:
But I knew intuitively. Once he said Lyme, I was like, "Oh," and I went down the rabbit hole of researching the correlation between fibroids and Lyme disease. And it's so mind blowing because-

Mimi:
Oh, it is. I didn't know that.

Noel:
A lot of people don't. I'm a part of these fibroid groups where there are 20, 30,000 women looking for natural alternatives to shrink their fibroids, taking all these supplements, meanwhile they don't know that they may have Lyme. It's also fascinating. And so got all of these tests done. They all came back negative. People around me were saying, :Yeah, I don't think you have Lyme," but I just knew. And so I got the Igenix test and it came back positive with a litany of things. And so from there I then went to another infectious disease specialist to say, "Look, look. It's positive." "Nope. I don't trust those tests." And so it just becomes a battle of the CDC testing versus these other more extensive tests that are expensive, but well worth it, in my opinion. And so here we are now, fast forward months later, I've found a incredible doctor who has been helping me. And then I've also done all the healing modalities.

Mimi:
You're in LA?

Noel:
I'm in LA.

Mimi:
So which doctor are you going to now?

Noel:
Well, my doctor is actually in New Jersey, so I went to a doctor-

Mimi:
Are you the same doctor I am?

Noel:
What doctor are you with?

Mimi:
Dr. Goodrich.

Noel:
Oh my God.

Mimi:
You are. Oh my gosh. That's so funny. Yes. I started going to see her last week or a month ago. I started the supplements two months ago. About two weeks ago I started my ... and then I'm going next week.

Noel:
That's so wild.

Mimi:
I know. It's so funny.

Noel:
I start my supplements, I should get them in a few days and then I'll take them for a month-

Mimi:
Yeah, that's what I did.

Noel:
... and then fly to New Jersey. So we may be there at the same time.

Mimi:
So I'm a month ahead of you.

Noel:
Okay. Gotcha.

Mimi:
I started them beginning of December.

Noel:
Wow. That's so crazy.

Mimi:
And I went through my first treatment and then I'm doing my next treatment next week.

Noel:
Oh, wow. So for your first treatment, tell me about that. Did you do the IVs and all of that?

Mimi:
Mm-hmm (affirmative). It was great. It was great. I definitely felt better. I mean, I started feeling better a little bit after the supplements, but after the first week of heavy, intense IV treatments, I felt a lot better.

Noel:
Did you do colonics with it as well?

Mimi:
Mm-hmm (affirmative). Yeah. Which is the first time I've ever had a doctor prescribed and then you're doing it while you're getting the IV.

Noel:
Oh, that's news to me. I did not know that.

Mimi:
Yes. You're getting the IV and then you're doing it at the same time they wheel you right in. Which actually kind of makes sense if you think about it.

Noel:
Yeah. Well, I had read ... so you also did hyperthermia as well.

Mimi:
Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Noel:
Where did you do that?

Mimi:
Florida.

Noel:
Okay. Because I was looking at doing it at Santa Vive and I talked to Dr. Goodrich about it. And the thing I love about her, for all of the listeners, what's so great is she's very open and honest. And so I can say to her like, "Hey, listen, I've been looking up SOT therapy or hyperthermia or this or that." And she'll say like, "I know about it. This is great. Or I don't know about it, or actually you won't need to do it because I'm doing that." You know what I mean? And so I just so appreciate that because I have found that some doctors are not like that.

Mimi:
Well, it's funny that you bring that up because I had scheduled a hyperthermia treatment in December because I was in a really bad place right before Thanksgiving. And I just wanted to get through the holidays. And I had done the hyperthermia treatment before. This would have been my third time. And I find that the hyperthermia only gives me a three month reprieve.

Noel:
Oh, interesting.

Mimi:
It doesn't stay long-term for me. And so when-

Noel:
How many times did you do [crosstalk 00:08:52].

Mimi:
I had like done three times. Once each time, but I've done it three different times. I asked her like, "Should I do it?" And she's like, "I would do it if you can, because if that's going to give you the three month lag, it's going to take me three months for my treatment to kick in. So if that gives you the three month of reducing your pain and being able to deal day to day, that's going to help you. Because in my stuff, that is a short term fix, whereas mine is going to be more of a long-term fix. So that way, once that wears off, hopefully my stuff has like done their thing and you'll be better."

Noel:
Wow.

Mimi:
So I did do it and she was like, "Go ahead. Do that." So it's interesting. So your stuff is about to come.

Noel:
Yep. Yep.

Mimi:
Good. How did you find her?

Noel:
A very good friend of mine who lives in Morristown, She owns a dealership there. We've been friends for years. And I told her about my Lyme and she was like, "You have to go see Goodrich. You have to see her." And I was like, "What's the deal?" She had Lyme disease. It was chronic, late stage. Had seen every doctor under the sun for like 20 years. Nothing helped her. And then she, her and her daughter went and totally good now.

Mimi:
That's amazing. So this was interesting. I never really told anybody about this, but no one has told me yet until she brought this up. So I had my teeth, my dental work done, like four years ago in LA where they cleaned out my cavitations, they pulled my root canal. And so instead of getting an implant into where my root canal, was I just put in a plastic flipper, a plastic fake tooth. Because I didn't want to deal until I got my Lyme gone. I didn't want to deal with having another surgery, whatever, just deal. Right. I just don't want to put some other foreign thing in my mouth that could potentially cause issues. So she did the test and all the blood work that ... Have you done all the blood work and everything that they sent to Germany?

Noel:
Yes.

Mimi:
Okay. So I was at her office last week and she was like, "Do you have breast implants?" And I was like, "No." And she's like, "You have silicone in your bloodstream, the equivalent of somebody who has breast implants." And I was like, "What?" I'm like, "That is so strange." She was like, "What could be causing that?" And then all of a sudden I was like, ding, ding, ding. I'm like, "Wait a second. I have this plastic fake tooth that I have in my mouth that's like a little bridge." And she's like, "That's leaking and putting so much silicone in your body that you can't ... It's now gone into your mitochondria has completely changed it. So your body can't even convert to ATB." She's like, "This is what's causing a lot of your issues." And I was like, "That is so weird." Not one doctor has ever picked up on this.

Noel:
No, she's so brilliant, by the way.

Mimi:
I know. I was just blown away. So I was like, "Okay, I'm throwing this thing out." So that just blew me away. I was just like, "That was really interesting." So you were lucky that you found her right off the bat. Have you been to other doctors or what have you been doing between now and then?

Noel:
Well, so, look, I, after talking with her, I absolutely adore her. I was a little, truth be told, I was a little put off and I shared this with Bridget. I was a little put off because to get it and I had questions about the budget, the bedside manner at first, I was a little frustrated with. My ego was like, "All right, well, if I can't even ask a question before spending $1,600 on a consult, maybe this isn't the right person for me." So I, then I said to my friend, Bridget, "I'm going to wait, I'm going to find someone else and just see. Weigh my options." So I did find a very, a wonderful doctor in Pismo Beach. And he took so much time with me and was a fraction of the price and has been doing this for 20 years and I adored him.

Noel:
I really wanted to move forward with him. However, he wanted me to be on antibiotics for three to four years. And that's not something I'm interested in. And I went to other doctors that my insurance covered and they were like, "We don't trust Igenix," and so I just kept bumping heads with who I should work with it. And then when I went, when we actually had the consultation, literally like within five seconds of speaking to her, I was like, "Oh, I adore you. You're amazing."

Mimi:
I know. She's very smart. So what do you ... The doctors that you went to that were covered by your insurance, what did they want you to do? Or did they just think there was nothing wrong with you and they weren't even offering any advice?

Noel:
Well, so they had me go to a rheumatologist and just, I mean, all of these different specialists who were like, "We don't know what's wrong with you. Maybe you have arthritis."

Mimi:
You're stressed out.

Noel:
Yeah, yeah. And you start to feel nutty. And I knew it was Lyme. I just ... And the reason I knew it was Lyme was because the symptoms matched up. And I think as women, I mean, we all do it probably in this society, but especially as women, we have these like aches and pains, but we tough through it, right. We don't think anything of it. So I've had chronic back pain for, well over a decade, but I lived in New York City, I was carrying bags. I was running to auditions. I walk up five flights of stairs. So you make excuses for it.

Mimi:
Right.

Noel:
I can't sleep. Well, I can't sleep because I'm stressed out. I have aches and pains, my joints are swollen, whatever it is. We just excuse it. But when I really sat with, "Oh no," and I really looked back at the trajectory of my life and my timeline. I got bit by a tick when I was six years old.

Mimi:
So you think you've had it since then?

Noel:
I think probably. I think it was probably dormant.

Mimi:
Yeah.

Noel:
And then it got activated.

Mimi:
With stress.

Noel:
Yeah, with everything that's going on.

Mimi:
Now, how has it affected your work? Have you been able to work?

Noel:
It's been really hard and I think on top ... Quarantine has been so tough on everyone, right? The depression and the anxiety and the thoughts of like, "I don't know if this is life I'm good. Maybe I'm good. I'm tired. I don't know if I want to be here." Those sorts of thoughts I've never had in my life. And they have been pretty consuming the last year. It's been really tough. I would say the anxiety has been the hardest. Not only am I an actor and a director and producer, I also run a production PR company. So the stressors are high all the time anyway, but the anxiousness has just been all consuming. So I've basically had to cut back in terms of my production PR company. I've had to let some clients go and just really only work with a select couple right now.

Noel:
And for auditions and stuff, there are things going on, but it's so much less. So I was auditioning anywhere from three to six times a week on top of working full time. So my life was just go, go, go, go, go. And now it's much less where I get an audition a week and I'm working with just a couple of clients. And I'm grateful that I'm in the place where I can do that right now. But I just can't imagine some of these people who are single parents having to work, full-time having take care of kids struggling like this because there are many days where it's literally hard to get out of bed.

Mimi:
No, it is true. And it's also just the financial burden, right. Of all these treatments.

Noel:
I mean, that's insane. It's a lot. Yeah.

Mimi:
So you left ... Going back to your journey or your progression of how you got to Dr. Goodrich, so you left, did the other doctor, and then you just, you finally found her and then now that's where you're at. You've only been to about two or three Lyme doctors.

Noel:
I've been to one, two, three, four Lyme doctors and then other specialist.

Mimi:
Oh, four. Well, they say the average is 20, I think, doctors before people find somebody who's going to help them get better.

Noel:
It's so heartbreaking. And I told you, my mom passed away from cancer. We went the integrative route for her treatment. And that's when I really discovered firsthand how important it is to be your own advocate. Because you will have some doctors who truly, bless their hearts, they are coming from the place of, they believe in what they're talking about so much, but it's only, that's the only thing they've learned. So they don't mean to say, "Well, you're going to die if you do this." Or they don't mean to come from that place, but they just feel passionate about it. I think it's so important to not only be your own advocate, but to listen to your body and really come from a place of what do I want and what do I need, regardless of what this person is saying and what this person is saying. Because if you listen to that, that may not be what's right for your body.

Mimi:
What have you done for your day-to-day life that you've changed since you found out you've had Lyme? Have you changed eating or lifestyle?

Noel:
So back in March, after I found out about all the fibroids, that's when I changed. I've already, I've lived a pretty healthy lifestyle for a while in terms of what I eat and consume, but I went completely gluten-free sugar-free vegan, no coffee, no fun, essentially. No alcohol.

Mimi:
Yeah, exactly. No alcohol. It's terrible.

Noel:
And so I did that or have done that up until Christmas. And then basically since Christmas, on and off, I have been very lax with my diet, so to speak. And I'm kind of coming from the place of, once I start on this supplement protocol, I'm going to be back at it. What's interesting, and I don't know how you're going to feel about this, but I had my first experience with plant medicine recently. That was hugely eye-opening for me because-

Mimi:
When you say plant medicine, are you talking about mushrooms or are you talking about CBD?

Noel:
I have experience with CBD, but it was a Iowasca ceremony where it was a, like a concoction of Iowasca and mushrooms. So there was no purging. There was no dark night of the soul. It was very light. And after this six hour journey, you have an integration the next morning. And then the next day, and after that, I have felt 10,000 pounds lighter. And the anxiety that was so insane taking over me has been lifted. And what's so wild is I have not been able to take naps in years, just because adrenaline, whatever it is, the adrenals, anxiety. And since that point, I have slept almost every day for sometimes three hours a day.

Mimi:
You're like the third person that has told me that it's helped them.

Noel:
I will say this, to anyone who feels ... You either feel the call or not. And what I mean by that is like, it can pique your interest. It piqued my interest like 10 years ago and I didn't do it. So it can pique your interest, but if it keeps coming into your consciousness and at some point, if you feel like it's right for you, I would say do it. For my experience, I understand why people have really bad trips, because if you cannot silence your mind, you'll go down a rabbit hole. And so what ended up happening for me was I had to close my eyes. There were like five of us in the room having the ceremonial experience. Some of them have already done it. I had not.

Noel:
And with my eyes open, I noticed I was looking around, "Well, what's this person doing? And what experience are they having? Well, am I not doing it right? Because if I don't look like ..." You know what I mean? And so you start to really pay attention to your conscious thoughts. And I just had to close my eyes and lay down. And the mantra that came to me was just be. So anytime the thoughts came in, just be. And so what ended up happening for me was I then got to have these lovely healing experiences with people and circumstances in my life. Some that seems so trivial and some that were very big. And I got to just have a soul-to-soul connection and come from a place of conscious truth of like, "I love you for this. And although I was hurt for this, thank you for the lesson. Thank you for the love. Thank you for the growth." And then I was taken to a different experience. And so essentially within six hours, I had more healing than in three and a half years of therapy.

Mimi:
Wow.

Noel:
Yeah, yeah.

Mimi:
I don't know much about it. I've started ... It has piqued my interest and learn just because I have not tried it. And I love to learn about things that I haven't done yet, especially when it relates to trying to heal. And I just did a podcast with a doctor yesterday and she was talking about a lot of people who have chronic Lyme. They don't address the vagus nerve or vagus, whatever it's called. And the reason why it's super important is because once you've been sick for so long, you almost have PTSD where your body doesn't, it literally goes in overdrive and it hasn't shut off and it doesn't know how to shut off. And so it's just on all the time. And until you could literally shut it off and it's really hard to do unless you learn strategies or, and I'm wondering, does this do that? Does this shut that off? Do you know?

Noel:
It's been so beautiful because once I knew I had Lyme, what started to happen ... I was not becoming a hypochondriac, but what started to happen was I would recognize, "Oh wow, my joints are on fire. Okay. It's because you have Lyme, Ugh, this really hurts. This sucks." And so I would like give thought to it and what's happened now. And so in a way, it intensified and I started herxing prior to this experience. I was herxing so bad at times that my body was convulsing and not stopping for hours at a time. And it's scary, right. But since this, what started to happen is when I feel a headache coming on that inevitably turns into a migraine, or when I feel crazy anxiety or heartburn happening here, or when I feel my joints, like they're on fire instead of, "Okay, you have Lyme, you just got to deal with this. This is going to suck. It's going to hurt."

Noel:
Instead of going down that road, I start breathing and I start saying, "What am I ..." just in my head, "What am I actually feeling right now? What emotion am I feeling?" Almost always, it's some sort of fear. It could be the state of our country, or what was. It could be my husband and I got into an argument and he raised his voice, which made me feel maybe a little unsafe or whatever it is, right. It could be anything I'm afraid that I'm going to die young like my mom did. Whatever it is. It almost always comes down to fear. And so then I just kind of breathe into that fear and then say, "You're safe I got you." Or whatever it is. And it's just taking that literally sometimes two, three minutes of, "Okay, you're safe. You're good. You're loved. You're enough."

Mimi:
So going back then to ... because I was thinking about this. This is funny, this is all coming together. Then when you have all these mainstream doctors telling us to go talk to psychiatrists that it's all on the head, does that mean it's really in the head and we're just learning to now duck, or is it because of course it's not in the head, right. It exists, but is that why they wanted us to go see a psychiatrist to manage the pain or to manage what you learned?

Noel:
I think it kind of depends. It's in the eye of the beholder, right? So when I told Dr. Goodrich, I was honest with her, I was like, "Listen," because-

Mimi:
I've talked to her about this, too, so that's fine.

Noel:
You did. Okay. Well what's really funny is at the beginning of our most recent calls, she said to me, which I didn't tell you, she said, "So how have you been feeling when you were off the doxy and when you took it?" And what happened was, so this one, Dr. Thoring in Pismo Beach wanted me to be on antibiotics for three years. I said no. I got the prescriptions filled. And then I was like, no. And then even, even Dr. Goodrich was like, I want you to take doxy for, I think it was like two or three weeks and something in me just kept saying no. Even though I have the prescriptions, right. I got them filled. So she asked me, "So how have you been feeling?"

Noel:
And I said, "Well, I don't know what you're going to think about this, but here goes. I did not take them. And this is what I did instead. And I don't think I need to take them because I'm starting to understand when a sensation is happening in my body, I'm starting to really understand the emotion attached to it. And I think if I can get ahold of the emotion, I can ease the pain." And she kind of laughed and say, "Well, first of all, I'm never here to judge. I'm here to help heal. And thank you for sharing that. And I'm so glad you listened to your intuition because after getting your 50 test results back, you are not a candidate for antibiotics. And if you had taken antibiotics, you would likely be held up in bed."

Mimi:
Really? Because they were going to be bad for you. So you were ... ah, interesting. Yeah. Because based on your blood work, it came back that your body couldn't handle those antibodies.

Noel:
Yep. Yep. And so she said, "What I'm so excited about is with my patients more often than not, yes, I can give them the physical to help them heal physical, but I try to encourage the emotional, but they're not often there." And she said, "You have the emotional, you're getting it. So whenever I have patients that are working on the emotional as well, their healing is triple the times quicker than someone who ..." Yeah.

Mimi:
Right. Interesting. So there is a piece to it. It's learning how to do it. If it's that way. If it's going to talk to somebody, if it's, there's a program that the doctor talked to yesterday called DSNR, DSNR, I think it's called. Or tapping. I actually did ketamine too.

Noel:
Oh really?

Mimi:
Yes. Which again was the same thing. Like there's a doctor in LA that does ketamine treatment just for Lyme patients. And she was like, "I've seen so many, it's the same thing. It's like this PTSD that your body doesn't ... It's so on hyperdrive that everything's affecting it, that you're just trying turning it off and rewiring it so that it's just not being triggered by everything."

Noel:
Totally. Well, and it's also, I think ... Look, I don't think everyone needs plant medicine to get to that place, right. I think you can, there's [inaudible 00:27:16] there's tapping, there's-

Mimi:
Meditation.

Noel:
[crosstalk 00:27:19] There's meditation. For me, in my experience, I grew up being super spiritual and doing yoga and going to church and doing the things. But then I really dove into meditation probably around 18 years old. So I've had many years of, I can do my breath work. I can get in my sauna, I can do my dry brushing. To do all the things, but nothing was getting me to the point of a sense of peace. And so I kind of hit a wall of. All right, it's this or bust. I have to do something. I have to try something else.

Mimi:
Well, having the death of your mother must have been very traumatic too, because it's usually big events like that that triggers-

Noel:
Yeah.

Mimi:
... the Lyme.

Noel:
It's funny because I think it probably got triggered. So, with her, she got diagnosed and the doctors gave her three months to live and she lived for six years. And I literally, when she was diagnosed, went on a mission to save her. I traveled all over the world, literally doing anything, speaking to everyone I could to save her. And so I think my adrenals just went in overdrive and then after she passed, I sort of took on the role of ... I have two brothers and a sister and so then all of a sudden I was the mama bear in a sense. And so I just got to the point where after years of that I could not do it anymore. And my body finally was like, "All right, are you going to listen now? What about now?"

Mimi:
Right, right, right. Because there's just, it was its way of like, "Hello." I think I'm the same thing with, as far as my body, just go, go, go. And it's a way of slowing down and making you listen. Intuition, which is good. Well, this has been amazing. I'm so glad we connected. Look at all the crossovers. This has been great. I'm glad we got to talk about the plant medicine as well, because I haven't actually really talked on air with people. Most people I've talked to have not been willing to talk on air about it. So I'm glad-

Noel:
That's what I found. I found that people aren't talking about it, and looking at it's scary and it's very taboo. But I do think that there are things on this planet that can help heal us.

Mimi:
Mm-hmm (affirmative). There's a great documentary about ashwagandha like, oh shoot, what's it called? There's a documentary. Did you watch it? Do you know what I'm talking about? It's down in Africa and they go and they actually take with like 10 patients and one person has cancer and one person has Lyme and one person has ... and they all have different things that are going on in their life. And they literally have a camera to show them what happens to them while they're down there.

Noel:
I don't know if I've seen that. I've seen a couple, I don't know if I've seen ... Unwell, is that ... That's not it, right?

Mimi:
I wish I could remember what it was. I don't remember. It was so long ago when I watched it.

Noel:
Have you seen the documentary Heal?

Mimi:
Yes. I'm wondering if it was a piece of it was in there and then I went and watched the actual longer one. That might've been it. But it was not the ... There was a full length movie because I remember, I can't remember. But I think I got the idea to watch it from the Heal, which is a great documentary too, for anybody who's not seen it. But let's stay in touch.

Noel:
For sure.

Mimi:
I would love to see how your, how you progress with Dr. Goodrich. And she's saying that within two months, by the end of February, I'm going to be like new. So let's hope. I did post that I did go for my first walk with my husband last week to go see the sunset in LA. So that was literally the first walk I was able to walk for an hour because I've been-

Noel:
Wait are you in LA as well?

Mimi:
Uh-huh (affirmative). Yep.

Noel:
Oh, I didn't ... I don't know why I didn't put it together.

Mimi:
Yeah.

Noel:
Yeah. Okay. Fantastic. So you were able to go on the walk since-

Mimi:
Yes.

Noel:
... working with her. So you fly there for a week and then you came back and then you're-

Mimi:
Mm-hmm (affirmative). Then I'll fly back. Yep. So I can tell you the hotel I stayed in and everything. It's super close and easy and nice. But yeah, I mean, I, my inflammation was so bad I couldn't walk. So that's why I haven't been able to walk because of my feet. Have been inflamed.

Noel:
Geez. I'm so sorry.

Mimi:
So that's kind of gone down and I've been able to walk. So it's been kind of nice.

Noel:
Yeah. That's great. Good.

Mimi:
So we'll touch base after, in a couple of months. I'd love to see if you're on the other side as well. If we both are we celebrating and we can share the news.

Noel:
Yes. Done and done.

Mimi:
Okay. Awesome. Thank you so much for coming on.

Mimi:
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