Starlink or Skynet?!

Wow, time has flown by! This is an episode from the vault and was recorded in January 2020. 

It's May 2026 and I'm uploading a few episodes for your listening and reminiscing pleasure. Kind of prophetic and, dare I say, spot on?! Miss you Melvin and TU...

Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:24

Welcome back to Truth Unscripted. I am Julie.

SPEAKER_00 0:29

And I'm Melvin. Welcome back to season three. Season three.

SPEAKER_03 0:34

How's it going, Melvin?

SPEAKER_00 0:35

It's going pretty good. How are you?

SPEAKER_03 0:37

Well, I was doing better before I've been hearing about this stuff that Elon Musk is up to. Particularly. Well, you know what I'm gonna say.

SPEAKER_00 0:48

No, but why don't you tell me?

SPEAKER_03 0:49

Yeah. I'm a little upset about the and it's being called a constellation of satellites that are being placed in low orbit around the Earth. And it's hard for me to say that I'm upset with Elon because you know how much I think of him. Right?

SPEAKER_00 1:08

I do. I did.

SPEAKER_03 1:09

So uh and it's weird because there's been talk about this Starlink system for quite some time. I mean, we've talked about it, I don't know, more than a year ago.

SPEAKER_04 1:21

Right.

SPEAKER_03 1:22

And it's like, okay, you know, we had some initial concerns, but I didn't feel necessarily bothered by it until January 6th, when they launched the last group, uh the most recent group of 60 of these satellites. And it just kind of dawned on me. I was like, what the what is going on here? Why are we okay with this constellation, this net of and let me let me go ahead and say this 40 to satellites that it's anticipated or planned to be placed around the planet? Help me, Melvin, help me understand why we're okay with that.

SPEAKER_00 2:08

You know, I guess less about helping you understand why we're okay with it, and just a couple more questions. How much how let me say it this way how many satellites or how much can we put into space before we reach some kind of critical mass where we need to start looking up in the sky on a regular basis?

SPEAKER_03 2:35

Yeah, I I don't know. And I I guess I need to point out too the reason that they're doing this. And you do you know what that's about?

SPEAKER_00 2:42

Sure, go ahead.

SPEAKER_03 2:44

Uh it says, and I'm gonna read this because I think it's really interesting. Um Starlink is basically being put in place to create high-speed internet access across the globe. Right.

SPEAKER_00 2:58

Cheap, supposedly.

SPEAKER_03 3:00

Well, we'll get to that. I don't know how cheap it is, but um everybody's supposed to have access, I guess if you can afford it. Um but the blurb on the on their webpage says with performance that far surpasses that of traditional satellite internet and a global network unbounded by ground infrastructure limitations, Starlink will deliver high-speed broadband internet to locations where access has been unreliable, expensive, or completely unavailable.

SPEAKER_00 3:30

That's a good thing.

SPEAKER_03 3:33

But at what cost? Uh you know, here we go again with the the cost of it. Um just because we can doesn't mean we should. What are the consequences of something like that?

SPEAKER_00 3:46

So some of the questions I had was so what is this doing to our ozone layer? You know, if we're gonna put up 42,000 satellites in low orbit. In low orbit, you know. Yeah. Obviously, they're not gonna go up one at a time, so it's not gonna be 42,000 times that we poke a hole in the ozone layer every time we go through it.

SPEAKER_03 4:10

You know, I hadn't even really given thought to poking the holes through the ozone layer. But now that you mention it, that's kind of interesting.

SPEAKER_00 4:16

But we know that's one of the things that, you know, happens when we shoot something up or something comes flying back down through. So, you know, we're going through the ozone layer however many times. So we're there's that. You know? Um, and like I said, who knows? Maybe these things, because of the orbit that they're going to be in, we can just count on for the next hundred thousand years that they're just gonna stay there.

SPEAKER_03 4:39

Well, that's not the case. I can tell you already. Did you it's not the case at all. And to clarify, apparently most satellites that are up there now are more than six hundred and twenty-one miles above the earth in orbit. Sure. These are going to be, as I was saying, low orbit. So they're going to be around 341 miles uh or kilometers. Uh it's 550 kilometers or 341 miles above the earth. So it's low orbit. Um, but they're only supposed to last, you know, a maximum of five years. And then they're going to fall to the earth and burn up in the atmosphere. That's the plan.

SPEAKER_00 5:21

So which would which would imply that they are small enough that they're going to burn up on re-entry.

SPEAKER_03 5:31

Well, and that's another thing I happen to have a number on. They uh weigh approximately 260 kilograms or 573 pounds apiece. That's kind of heavy. When I first read it, I it says low, you know, talking about the low weight. 573 pounds is not light.

SPEAKER_00 5:54

Well, you when you consider what typically is in outer space and what it typically takes to be able to survive to get into orbit, you know, individually, um that's not significant in terms of um weight in outer space.

SPEAKER_03 6:13

True. That's true.

SPEAKER_00 6:15

And if it was not going to burn up in reorbit, a 500-pound brick would be substantial.

SPEAKER_02 6:22

Uh yeah, I would say so.

SPEAKER_00 6:24

But again, you know, look out. They are somebody believes that these are going to be safely destroyed upon re-entry, et cetera, and so on.

SPEAKER_03 6:36

Have you seen the graphic of how this is set up?

SPEAKER_00 6:40

I have not seen the graphic. You know, I figure it's, you know, in my mind, of course, you know what we think of when we see this is Skynet. Skynet. You said it first, yes, that's right. I was had to beat you to the punch. You knew I was gonna say that. Um you think of this net of satellites, you know, around the globe.

SPEAKER_03 6:58

With the exception of, oddly enough, the North and South Poles. Which conspiracy alert, here comes a conspiracy alert. There is there is a group. There are people who believe that Elon Musk is an alien. And there are people who believe that aliens have created a base at the North and South Pole. And so, I don't know, maybe the two of these kind of go together.

SPEAKER_00 7:29

Or it could simply be you got the two poles and you know you've got you know magnetic issues that come into play with this stuff.

SPEAKER_03 7:36

But you know, you know what? I think I think that's a good idea going forward to have the conspiracy minute.

SPEAKER_00 7:42

Sure. To allow me to explain these uh have we ever not allowed the conspiracy minute?

SPEAKER_03 7:48

I mean, let's have a designated moment.

SPEAKER_00 7:51

Let's be honest.

SPEAKER_03 7:52

Well, anyway. So so so I got a couple questions. It does look like a net.

SPEAKER_00 7:57

So if they're gonna be I'm visualizing the net, which kind of leads me to my new question. Those are forty two thousand that he wants to put up. We're not even talking about all the other entities and companies and you know that have things already in space or that are going to follow suit and want to put up their yes, and that's what I've been thinking about.

SPEAKER_03 8:19

That's that's kind of what made me so angry about this is what gives him the right to do this? Who owns space? How can how is it is it just a money thing? I mean, I know he had to get approval from the government.

SPEAKER_00 8:34

Um it's a money and technically it should be a safety thing because you have to be if I'm not gonna let you put something up there um if I'm the government that is going to end up in, you know, my front window, you know, because it just fell out of the sky.

SPEAKER_03 8:51

Or on uh some poor person walking down the street and uh Yeah, we're not trying to we're not trying to kill Granny and her dog as she's walking.

SPEAKER_00 8:59

So there are some things that you would like to think that they've had to um get approved to do this. Again, it's not about ownership thing of space because you know nobody owns space, you know. Now, even though you like to hear people talk about owning airspace, which is always funny to me, but okay.

SPEAKER_03 9:19

Well, you do above your house, I guess, for a certain number of feet, right? If you're there's some argument about it, is that right?

SPEAKER_00 9:27

So then if I own the airspace above my house, well uh we'll save that for my we'll save that for another conspiracy theory. You know, because then what we're saying is that I should that should be a safe zone. My home should be a safe zone up to a certain range and radius. But that's not the case. So back to these satellites that are going to proliferate space in any in a very short period of time. You know, are we gonna get to a point where you have a satellite and I have a satellite? You know, this you know, because how I can send up my own satellite? Well, or maybe maybe I can lease one.

SPEAKER_03 10:02

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 10:02

Maybe I can lease space on in his network besides just having you know internet at some crazy speed, supposedly, and access. Maybe when I travel, I can have a satellite phone, so I've always I'm always connected. Maybe, you know, is that gonna be, you know, a future thing?

SPEAKER_03 10:20

Well, I think this actually is offering multiple services. So I think it's gonna be I'm afraid to say this. Oh, go ahead, say it. Is it possible that I mean I guess it would make sense that it could track you? It has a navigation system on it. It has a navigation system.

SPEAKER_00 10:40

I can't believe that you would even say something like that, that they would possibly put something up in space circling the globe that could possibly spy on you.

SPEAKER_03 10:50

I can't imagine.

SPEAKER_00 10:51

You know what? I'm appalled. I'm appalled. I can't.

SPEAKER_03 10:54

I don't think I've ever thought that before.

SPEAKER_00 10:56

I'm shocked.

SPEAKER_03 10:57

Yeah, it says um This is my shock. There's no expression by the way for all you miss me. Um I'm looking at the webpage again, and it says custom built in-house navigation sensors tell each satellite its altitude. No, no, it doesn't say altitude, it says each satellite its attitude. Right. Which helps enable precision placement of broadband. Throughput. I don't think I've ever heard that word, but which one? Throughput.

SPEAKER_04 11:25

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 11:26

Well, I don't know. And I and I guess you mentioned Skynet, um, which makes me then think, okay, so SpaceX is billing this as an internet system. Internet constellation. What else could they do with this?

SPEAKER_00 11:43

They're building this as a network.

SPEAKER_03 11:45

Yeah, but for what? Are they gonna try to control the weather?

SPEAKER_00 11:49

They're building this as a network. And so for me, just like so many other things that we've talked about, right now they're billing it as a network to provide satellite and areas they can't receive it with quality far surpassing current satellite, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So that is going to be the foundation that they are listing that this network is going to do. You're not going to make me believe that you're putting all of this up in in outer space without some future plans. Potential.

SPEAKER_03 12:26

Yeah, but I I I I mean, what are we looking at? I just mentioned a second ago controlling weather. Uh well, uh, you know, I government control, you know, because he has Elon Musk has worked with the government before. They government uses their rockets to put things in space. What are you thinking?

SPEAKER_00 12:45

So I'm thinking, you know, it it could is it less concerning to the American public that Elon is putting up a web of satellites than it would be if the government put up a web of satellites?

SPEAKER_03 13:00

I don't know that anybody cares anymore. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 13:03

You know, we've we've talked about the you don't think that people would be a little bit more antsy about this if the government put up 42,000 satellites?

SPEAKER_03 13:12

I think so. I do think so. I do. And it does make you wonder, hmm. Make you go. Yeah, I I do think that.

SPEAKER_00 13:21

I mean, and he's gotten uh, you know, a pretty easy way to go with just shooting up all these satellites. I don't think I could if I had the technology, I don't ex I don't believe that the government would just give me carte blanche to start sending up satellites.

SPEAKER_03 13:39

Yeah, I'm really kind of shocked that this was ever approved.

SPEAKER_00 13:42

Hmm.

SPEAKER_03 13:43

Shocked? Yeah. Really? Interesting. Well, you know. Not really. I mean, you know. Um but I I think about that, you know, thinking about what could be done with something like this. Sure. Who's gonna control it, who's gonna monitor it, who's going to maintain it. And why don't people have more to say about it? I really don't see a lot or hear a lot of talk about it, and the only thing I've heard is when they sent up those 60 satellites a few weeks back, people thinking that they were seeing UFOs because there were lines of dots, you know, of these satellites being sent into space, people thought they, you know, they were seeing alien ships. You know, what I don't hear people talking about it or really having any opinion on it, and that's kind of concerning.

SPEAKER_00 14:36

For a society that is more connected than it has ever been, in some many in some ways, because there's so much information, they are less informed than they've ever been.

SPEAKER_03 14:52

That's true. I think that's true.

SPEAKER_00 14:54

Because the things that they're focusing on is TikTok and Instagram and who knows what other useless I shouldn't say that. I'm sorry, I am I am so so sorry to use the term useless because there have been some very, very beneficial things that I've seen and that have happened as a result of a lot of the tools that social media provides. So let me rephrase that and say less socially impactful. And and I think that a lot of times we get so caught up in the fun uses of technology that a lot of the vital information that crosses the screen gets gets swallowed up in all the noise of everything else. And so there are very few people that are concerned. But then you made a statement earlier that it's very true. There's so many people that just don't care. They don't care about the the unintended consequences because their feeling is that this is a beneficial thing for if it's going to give me something that's going to be of an aid to me, that's going to better my life.

SPEAKER_03 16:12

It's worth it.

SPEAKER_00 16:12

That it's worth it, not thinking about what the unintended uses or consequences could be.

SPEAKER_03 16:19

Well, and you know, that's why I'm c concerned really that there aren't many people talking about this now because as we've said before, with so many things, once it's in place, it's a lot harder to change it than or to um do anything to impact it. So these are already going up.

SPEAKER_00 16:39

There we're seeing breaches on at a rate and on a level that we've never seen before in terms of information. You know, we live now, it it is people are again beginning to learn to live with that as well. You expect, you expect to have your personal information exposed at some point in time.

SPEAKER_03 17:05

No, I don't.

SPEAKER_00 17:06

You know, you don't want to. But if if you're honest, you know that at some point there's going to be a breach and you are potentially going to be the victim of having had your information exposed.

SPEAKER_03 17:19

Well, we're already all exposed on the dark web.

SPEAKER_00 17:22

Okay, so that's my point.

SPEAKER_03 17:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:23

And so, but but with that being said, here we are getting ready to put a web around the planet as if the people who have ill intentions don't already have enough access.

SPEAKER_03 17:40

Why are we just this is this is the thing that we've talked about for so long, and and I feel like it's inevitable that it's gonna become reality. I mean, I've seen it with so many things.

SPEAKER_00 17:52

The satellites are up.

SPEAKER_03 17:55

Well, and astronomers are having a problem with this. I mean, imagine that you are someone who studies space for a living. How are you gonna navigate around all of this space junk to do that? Oh, and here's another thing that's really interesting. They were having problems with the light reflecting back so you could actually see all of these satellites. And so now they're changing the material or well, cloaking. They're adding a cloaking device so that you may not see it. So astronomers were complaining, and yeah, you're looking at me like I'm crazy.

SPEAKER_00 18:33

No, I'm not. I'm not, because see what's gonna happen now is for a lot of these astronomers, they're going to have these gaps in space or these dark spots, or they're gonna they're gonna be these anomalies. You know, that are either gonna be a satellite or is it something.

SPEAKER_03 18:53

But I think it's gonna interfere with all the electronics they're using.

SPEAKER_00 18:59

Ultimately, the telescopes and the we don't have enough information and enough, you know, um study of what 42,000 satellites is going to do.

SPEAKER_03 19:12

I'm gonna send, I'm gonna read this and then I'm gonna hand you this so you can get a visual of it. Because I think everybody needs to see it. Sure. We all need to know what's coming. I I really, regardless of anything else we ever say, I always think people need to be aware. Um so they say, again on this on the webpage, Starlink is targeting service in the northern US and Canada in 2020. So they're gonna start providing service. Rapidly expanding to near global domination of no, it's not domination. I threw that in there. Uh global coverage of the populated world by 2021. But I think global domination may be uh in the long run more accurate.

SPEAKER_00 19:56

See, I'm not gonna comment because I I you know I don't want to be named in any kind of lawsuit for claiming that they are saying on their website anything about global domination.

SPEAKER_03 20:07

When you look at that graphic, tell me that you don't feel like dominating.

SPEAKER_00 20:12

I mean, again, this this graphic, this image, looks like something out of a sci-fi movie.

SPEAKER_03 20:20

It really does. There's a movie, and I cannot think of the name of it, uh sci-fi movie, of course, where they control the weather and things by this system.

SPEAKER_00 20:31

It's it's it's it's only been out it's not been a long time. Yeah, you know.

SPEAKER_03 20:36

Yeah, that's right. It hasn't. Um I can never remember though on the spot. Drives me crazy.

SPEAKER_00 20:41

Right. So so you so we've talked about 42,000 satellites circling the earth and all of the wonderful things that are there and blah, blah, blah. So what are the positives?

SPEAKER_03 20:54

Well, I think um, you know, let's see. Provided it's not used to control weather or to control the robot army or facial.

SPEAKER_00 21:07

My question was what are the game positives? I I am not using the correct term here.

SPEAKER_03 21:15

Well, I'm just kind of saying if it's not if we're not going to talk about those. And the interference with being able to look at the stars at night and learn about space. Uh our children being able to future children being able to look at the sky and its beauty without interference.

SPEAKER_00 21:35

Ladies and gentlemen, I do want you to understand that we are not experiencing difficulties. She is plainly and clearly ignoring my question.

SPEAKER_03 21:45

Uh okay. Well, I guess the the benefit is you know, I already have internet. Let's let's get that out there. You already have the internet. Okay. Most of the population world.

SPEAKER_00 22:01

Because I want to be fair, and it's easy to get up here and bash the idea for all those things that appear to be obviously global internet domination.

SPEAKER_03 22:13

That's positive, right?

SPEAKER_00 22:14

See.

SPEAKER_03 22:16

And by the way, they have come up with a figure about how inexpensive it's going to be.

SPEAKER_00 22:21

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 22:22

And $80 a month.

SPEAKER_00 22:24

If you've got, depending upon what your internet is currently, you're paying somewhere between $40 and $80 a month now.

SPEAKER_03 22:35

Right. So I'm not blown away by that.

SPEAKER_00 22:38

Well, you you you're not blown away by it, but if you're in the middle of the Sudan and you want to get your internet and you can't, and I don't know that to be the case, but I'm I'm making a an assumption.

SPEAKER_04 22:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:53

You know, you're in some unpopulated area. We've got in within where we live, if you're in a rural area, you're probably not getting internet.

SPEAKER_03 23:04

Yeah. Well, and granted, there are places that that's the case. You asked me for a positive. That's the only one I got.

SPEAKER_00 23:12

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 23:12

I don't know what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00 23:13

So all I'm going to say, but so let's just stop there for a second. So we're we're expanding the ability of connectivity. And there's a lot of things that depend and benefit from the internet. You know? Um, the exchange of information has become widely and predominantly done and improved and increased because of internet. You know, the the speed of information because of internet.

SPEAKER_03 23:43

It's instantaneous.

SPEAKER_00 23:44

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 23:44

Basically.

SPEAKER_00 23:45

And so if you are somewhere where you've got to drive however long to an internet cafe or you've got to wait for snail mail or something like that, this may be improving your quality of life. It may even And I acknowledge that. It may even open up business opportunities for people.

SPEAKER_03 24:07

Okay. But there is the argument that all automation is going to take jobs away from people.

SPEAKER_00 24:17

You know, you moving to this again, he's looking at me like No, I'm just I'm I'm I am looking at you intently to try to hear what you're getting ready to say.

SPEAKER_03 24:26

Well, back to the positive.

SPEAKER_00 24:28

Sure.

SPEAKER_03 24:28

Aside from the internet, the global internet, what is a positive in your mind?

SPEAKER_00 24:34

You know, it's one of those things of technology moving forward in a way that is not harmful. Granted, we've not identified or proven the fact that satellites in this number and in this location and in this use and this means is not going to somehow later on pose a threat. But if we're looking at it from the positive, I see it expanding an opportunity for people, whether it's the stay-at-home mom or whether it's the corporate entity, to increase their opportunity for connectivity. And so with so much of business now going from brick and mortar to online presences, there are those who are limited in what they can do and what they can bring to market by their ability to connect to the internet.

SPEAKER_03 25:29

Yeah, okay. And and what you're saying is all kind of in the same outside of that are there benefits.

SPEAKER_00 25:38

Well, I mean, you know, whether it's hospitals or whether it's, you know, um law enforcement, you know, uh medical. I mean, there's so many things that are going to be impacted by being able simply to connect.

SPEAKER_03 25:54

Okay. Well, again, I agree with you. I think there that is a positive.

SPEAKER_00 26:00

Sure.

SPEAKER_03 26:01

But I just wonder I mean, think about it.

SPEAKER_00 26:03

If you're in a rural area of the world, wherever that is, and you currently don't have, say, internet, and you have no there's no need for a company that can install it there. You know, because you can't get it. Or what you can get is just blah. Now, it may be very limited in the sense that this is all right now we're talking about something that's owned and operated by Elon Musk. So, you know, who knows who these companies will be that will be installing it.

SPEAKER_03 26:36

Other companies and that's another thing. It creates work. But again, all of the automation is taking work from people, but that's almost automatically.

SPEAKER_00 26:44

This is gonna be an actual, you gotta install it. I mean, or you gotta buy some kind of tech you gotta buy some kind of apparatus so that you can receive it.

SPEAKER_03 26:53

There have to be other companies out there who have this thought and are planning to put their own satellites in the And that's the reason why I said So how how is it gonna be controlled that we're gonna let Elon Musk do it and he's gonna dominate And then we're gonna have another company that comes in and they want to do this and then this is the same thing.

SPEAKER_00 27:11

Let's be fair. This He's not the only person who has a satellite up there.

SPEAKER_03 27:14

No, he's not that we're benefiting from the But SpaceX is the company that's putting 42,000 or have plans to 42,000. They are. That's a significant number. Oh, how many satellites are orbiting the Earth right now?

SPEAKER_00 27:27

That's the question.

SPEAKER_03 27:29

We need to I I would like to know that.

SPEAKER_00 27:31

That is the question.

SPEAKER_03 27:32

And you know I know there's sixty more since January.

SPEAKER_00 27:38

The question becomes the to me, the bigger question becomes, even when we talk about, you know, the positives of what comes out of this, the the bigger question is maintenance, um the ability, you know, it's not like you've got a air traffic controller who is making sure that plane A and plane C don't intersect in their flight path. You know, you set these up on a orbit, and there's stuff that's already up there on, you know, some kind of synchronous orbit. You know, how who's in charge of making sure that those 60 that you just sent up are not, you know, on a collision course with something else? Now I'm sure that part of the software and part of the feedback and information that they get, that there's probably some kind of proximity sensor that you know allows it. The question is, what becomes critical mass when you've got one company already talking about putting 42,000 satellites up there? And again, we may not have it, we may be talking about dropping a teaspoon of water in the ocean.

SPEAKER_03 28:54

Well, and to your to what you said there, autonomous collision avoidance is what they're calling it. Starley, Starlink satellites utilize inputs from the Department of Defense's debris tracking system to autonomously perform maneuvers to avoid collisions with space debris and other spacecraft.

SPEAKER_00 29:14

Hmm.

SPEAKER_03 29:16

Again, coming to a sky.

SPEAKER_00 29:17

I'm going to go back to my statement that I don't think that the average Joe like myself, even if I had the wherewithal and the finances and the technology to put up my own 60 out of 42,000 satellites, that I'm going to get access to defense information. Defense department to make sure that my satellites don't run into something. But if they have access to that, then that means that the this defense department has access to those satellites. I'm not giving you access to me without me having access to you.

SPEAKER_03 30:02

Okay, so here's a question. Elon Musk, as much as I've loved watching the development of Not a Flamethrower and Tesla and um all the fun things that he's been involved in.

SPEAKER_00 30:17

Here we go.

SPEAKER_03 30:19

I'm sorry. I'm surprised. You know, he's one of the primary individuals out there talking about AI and how we need to be careful with it. And yet he's created Skynet or creating Skynet.

SPEAKER_00 30:36

See, you just you just assigned something to him.

SPEAKER_03 30:41

Starlink. He's Starlink Skylink.

SPEAKER_00 30:45

Starlink. Um what's your concern?

SPEAKER_03 30:48

That seems kind of strange for somebody who has concerns and has voiced them to government officials and and corporations and your way of protecting the world from the So you've come a long way.

SPEAKER_00 31:06

No, I have not.

SPEAKER_03 31:07

You've come a long way to now thinking that Elon Musk is the savior.

SPEAKER_00 31:10

No, no, no.

SPEAKER_03 31:11

Don't mean the savior of in that sense.

SPEAKER_00 31:13

I mean like the planet. I made a decision to start this season off with a new attitude, and that was I'm going to make sure that I approach every angle of the conversation that I possibly can so that all of our listeners feel like their thoughts and opinions are represented in what we discuss.

SPEAKER_03 31:34

That is a lot to take on. Are you sure you can do it?

SPEAKER_00 31:37

No, I am not.

SPEAKER_03 31:38

Well, what I was saying is you've come a long way to thinking that he could be a hero and you know, defending us and all of that stuff.

SPEAKER_00 31:46

So you know, I think I think some of our listeners might believe that. Now, where I'm at is that I don't put anything past anybody. And if you want me to believe that at the end of the day, he does not have his company's interests at heart first. And the future of his company at heart first, yeah, we're missing something.

SPEAKER_03 32:18

Yeah, and the valuation of his company, which is Absolutely. After this is over, oh my goodness, billions and billions.

SPEAKER_00 32:26

Think about this. Think about this. Typically, the company that is first to the marketplace with a quality product, not always just first to the marketplace, but first to the marketplace with a quality product, it's hard to unseat them. It just is. And if what he does is successful, it will be copied. At which point in time, he will have the footprint, he will have the primary locations, anything that's an understatement. Well, I mean 42,000 and and and and counting, yeah, you know, will be the will be what was going on. And so at that point, he is now placed and in a position where if we start talking about, well, it's at a point with what everything that's up there, we can't afford to put anything else up there. We're probably gonna have to negotiate with him for use of these satellites.

SPEAKER_03 33:29

So it is, in a sense, global domination.

SPEAKER_00 33:32

Again, I'm not gonna use that kind of terminology.

SPEAKER_03 33:35

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 33:36

What I'm saying is I think that it is scary. It is very creative placement. His creative placement in the market space, in the in the you know, atmosphere.

SPEAKER_02 33:50

Why does everybody feel like they should just allow it? Why isn't anybody saying anything? Why, why?

SPEAKER_00 33:57

Well, I mean, this is this is this is what the it used to be, we used to talk about this country. This is what the world is built on. Innovation.

SPEAKER_03 34:08

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 34:09

And who's who's who gets there first? But again, I'm using that same phrase that I meant used a minute ago, with a quality product. Because if these things are falling out of the sky and smashing cars and houses and everything else, you know, it's a problem. But if he's able to bring to bear what he promises, a quality product to improve the network around this country.

SPEAKER_03 34:37

I mean, hey, who doesn't want better facial recognition? I mean, come on. And you know, Mel, the next time you go on vacation, I want to be able to pull you pull your whereabouts up on my phone and track you, like watch you from one of those satellites. I would I want to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_00 34:52

If you if you had the right technology, you could do it right now.

SPEAKER_03 34:55

And you know, if you're having bad weather uh on vacation, just tap into one of those.

SPEAKER_00 35:01

If you had the right technology, you could do it right now. And you know it to be true. We talked last last year or the year before, we talked about I'm saying last year, seas last season or the season before, we talked about the fact that there was conversation that even your home Wi-Fi could be used as infrared or under certain circumstances and conditions. Right, right, right. You're not gonna make me believe that a web of 42,000 satellites that are providing you with Wi-Fi can't effectively be used in some very amazing and creative ways.

SPEAKER_03 35:44

Yeah, um, of that I have no doubt. I'm just continually surprised that everybody's just, hey, yeah, that's great. Oh, yeah, look at that. Wow. They're just acceptance of it without really knowing. You know, people know, oh, you know, Elon Musk is in SpaceX. I keep blaming. I'm not blaming you, Elon.

SPEAKER_00 36:03

I'm just I'm throwing this out there because it'll it'll probably be a a on one of our future shows, maybe this season, even. Probably definitely this season. There are former uh military, some of our veterans, who simply because uh are you familiar with what a CPAP machine is? I am. Did you know that we have some of our great military, former military officers who are refusing to use some of the CPAP machines now because they now have Wi-Fi and they feel as if they can be tracked because of the fact that they are now they had now have this connectivity. And so, of course, so many people who are lovers of our show, I got the uh request or the the information that you guys might need to talk about this because da-da-da-da-da-da-da. So I'm throwing that out there. Yeah, I'm throwing that out there and and in connection with as we sit here and talk about being connected even greater. So just put that in your pipe, folks, and uh see if we um we know do some research on that and and and have that topic later on in the season.

SPEAKER_03 37:23

On the military, too. Yeah, I don't know if you know that the government has basically stated that the military, military members should not use 23andMe. Have you heard about that?

SPEAKER_00 37:35

I have not. I have not. So many fun things to give up. And who has been saying he's not giving up his DNA?

SPEAKER_03 37:45

I'm proud of us because neither of us have uh and it's it's tough, it's really tough.

SPEAKER_00 37:49

You know, I mean, I won't sit here and lie to you and say that you know, the adventurer in me has not been like, man, I wonder this, I wonder that. I bet it could tell me this. But the pragmatist in me has been like, Yeah, don't do it.

SPEAKER_03 38:07

Well, we have we're gonna be talking about a lot of things, as we usually do in this this uh This is gonna be a great season for the realm of discussion.

SPEAKER_00 38:15

It's gonna be a great season. So, you know, we've thrown this information out there. You know what we're gonna do, we're gonna keep you guys updated, we're gonna pay attention to it, we're gonna, you know, be watching for shooting stars and falling satellites and all of that kind of stuff, and hoping that there's nothing of a negative to tell you.

SPEAKER_03 38:36

Well, yeah, we'll we'll talk about that when it happens.

SPEAKER_00 38:39

You know, we're gonna probably wrap this up here, but I'm sitting here and I'm thinking, you know, what happens if I can start watching a show at home and because of this connectivity that Elon is offering me, you know, I can just sit in the passenger seat and just keep watching my show. All the way to its conclusion. I mean, I know you can do that with stuff that's on some of the services that are out there now. But what if it's, you know, maybe it's I don't know. I don't know what this is gonna provide me. You know?

SPEAKER_02 39:16

I'm sitting here thinking, um, that doesn't sound that surprising.

SPEAKER_00 39:21

No, I mean, but you know, I mean, it's just what is it going to afford me in terms of now, you know, what'll be interesting years.

SPEAKER_02 39:31

I'm sorry, but I didn't I guess I didn't get what you were saying. Are you talking about having uninterrupted service?

SPEAKER_00 39:39

Uninterrupted service when I'm going from one place to another.

SPEAKER_03 39:43

I thought you said when you were at home on your couch. You're talking about in your car.

SPEAKER_00 39:47

I mean, you know, I'm I'm sitting here, I'm doing because right now, think about this. You know, and I might be making stuff up. Elon, if you choose to use this, you know. It's not free. I just want free internet.

SPEAKER_03 39:58

Oh, no, no.

SPEAKER_00 39:59

That's all. That's all I want. Free internet.

SPEAKER_03 40:01

No, well, negotiate that.

SPEAKER_00 40:04

Well, I guess that's true because my partner here, she's she's wanting to negotiate. So we can talk about that later, Elon. But here's what here's what I'm saying, Elon. This is what I'm thinking. Right now, you gotta have um personal Wi-Fi if you want to use internet somewhere. We've got all of these vehicles now that are providing coming with internet service attached, but you still gotta pay for it. What if? I mean, I'm paying you, Elon, for internet, right? And you got satellites, 42,000 of them around the planet. So technically, shouldn't I still be connected?

SPEAKER_03 40:40

Yeah, so you're talking continual 24-7 connection. Continual uh connection. Oh wait.

SPEAKER_00 40:49

No, wait a minute. Here's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_03 40:51

You know, I mean Oh there's no off the grid with this.

SPEAKER_00 40:59

There's no off the grid anyway.

SPEAKER_03 41:00

Yeah, but you're you're probably right. I just really cements the game.

SPEAKER_00 41:07

When we leave.

SPEAKER_03 41:08

There's no off the grid.

SPEAKER_00 41:09

When we leave the show tonight, I e each of us is going to get an email or some kind of ad related to something that we have said in the show. Simply because our phones are in the building and they're listening. But that's a whole nother show. Anyway, I'm just I'm just I'm just excited for the potential of what can happen from this. Am I really excited or am I just kind of seeding? I'm a little seeding. Let me let me see. Or am I seeding the minds for people to begin to worry a little bit?

unknown 41:50

Yeah, well.

SPEAKER_00 41:51

Interesting.

SPEAKER_03 41:52

You got me. You got me. I'm worried a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 41:54

Interesting.

SPEAKER_03 41:55

Uh okay. Well, I guess that wraps it up for this episode. Yeah, it is. It is. I'm looking forward to it. There's so many things going on that we can talk about.

SPEAKER_00 42:05

So many things.

SPEAKER_03 42:06

And we will be back.

SPEAKER_00 42:08

Yes, we will. We're gonna be back. We've got a great season planned for you guys. We've got some great things we're gonna talk about, and we're not gonna give them all away today because we want you to come back and kind of be surprised.

SPEAKER_03 42:20

Follow along.

SPEAKER_00 42:21

But you can find us on Instagram at truth underscore unscripted.

unknown 42:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 42:29

And if we put something out there on Twitter, it'll be at TruthUnscripted. And you can send us emails where, Julie?

SPEAKER_03 42:40

At truthunscripted at gmail.com. And on the social media things. Yeah. I think everybody knows right now that we're kind of I don't want to use the word paranoid, but we're not all that much in favor of certain things. What do you say? Well, we've not been great about Instagram or Twitter. But I think we're gonna branch out.

SPEAKER_02 43:03

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 43:04

So I think we're gonna make more of an effort. Let's just say that.

SPEAKER_00 43:08

Yeah, we will.

SPEAKER_03 43:08

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 43:09

We will.

SPEAKER_01 43:10

Continue.

SPEAKER_00 43:12

And guys, remember the truth is out there. And it's unscripted.