In this week's episode Nick Johnson (Chief Executive of BERA) interviews Jake Anders. Jake is Associate Professor of Quantitative Social Science and his research focuses on the causes and consequences of educational inequality and the evaluation of policies and programmes aimed at reducing it. He is also Deputy Director of the UCL Centre for Education Policy and Equalising Opportunities (CEPEO). CEPEO opened at the beginning of the pandemic and Jake discusses this challenge as well as upcoming projects and the core aims of the research centre.