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I'm Dr. Javad Sajan."},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":9.09,"endTime":11.01,"body":"This is the Plastic Surgeon"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":9.09,"endTime":11.01,"body":"Podcast."},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":29.04,"endTime":32.43,"body":"Welcome to the Plastic Surgeon"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":29.04,"endTime":32.43,"body":"Podcast where we listen to real"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":32.43,"endTime":35.31,"body":"plastic surgery stories of"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":32.43,"endTime":35.31,"body":"triumph and pain from real"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":35.31,"endTime":37.8,"body":"patients and providers to"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":35.31,"endTime":37.8,"body":"further understand the"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":37.8,"endTime":40.89,"body":"motivations of why they would"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":37.8,"endTime":40.89,"body":"risk their life under the knife."},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":41.25,"endTime":44.64,"body":"I'm Dr. Javad Sajan and today we"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":41.25,"endTime":44.64,"body":"are so excited to have Dr."},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":44.64,"endTime":48.84,"body":"Alexandra Kohles. Alexandra is a"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":44.64,"endTime":48.84,"body":"physician. She's going to share"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":48.84,"endTime":53.01,"body":"her amazing story with us of"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":48.84,"endTime":53.01,"body":"plastic surgery and revision"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":53.01,"endTime":56.1,"body":"plastic surgery. Alexandra,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":53.01,"endTime":56.1,"body":"welcome to the show today and"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":56.1,"endTime":57.21,"body":"we're so happy to have you."},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":57.26,"endTime":58.88,"body":"Thank you"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":57.26,"endTime":58.88,"body":"very much for inviting me."},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":59.08,"endTime":60.97,"body":"She is one of"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":59.08,"endTime":60.97,"body":"my patients She's an amazing"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":60.97,"endTime":64.06,"body":"person. I've had the privilege"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":60.97,"endTime":64.06,"body":"of getting to know her. We're"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":64.06,"endTime":66.64,"body":"going to talk about her story"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":64.06,"endTime":66.64,"body":"today. 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I think."},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":224.87,"endTime":225.86,"body":"Are you still"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":224.87,"endTime":225.86,"body":"in touch?"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":226.28,"endTime":230.75,"body":"No, I'm"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":226.28,"endTime":230.75,"body":"not. But, the thing is that I"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":230.75,"endTime":237.68,"body":"think that he was, he wanted to"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":230.75,"endTime":237.68,"body":"be this, this very handsome and"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":237.68,"endTime":242.69,"body":"kind of a womanizer kind of guy."},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":237.68,"endTime":242.69,"body":"He was. 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When I moved here to"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":458.59,"endTime":462.76,"body":"the States, everything was like"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":458.59,"endTime":462.76,"body":"\"Oh, no, we're not that way\""},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":462.88,"endTime":467.05,"body":"manner. 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And I think"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":488.25,"endTime":492.54,"body":"things have changed a lot with"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":488.25,"endTime":492.54,"body":"more of the hidden culture"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":492.54,"endTime":495.57,"body":"coming to light, especially with"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":492.54,"endTime":495.57,"body":"the recent political things."},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":495.6,"endTime":496.11,"body":"Yes."},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":496.17,"endTime":498.45,"body":"Now, you were"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":496.17,"endTime":498.45,"body":"in medical school, and this"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":498.45,"endTime":501.0,"body":"gentleman broke up with you. 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How was your consultation?"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":711.84,"endTime":715.26,"body":"So, my"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":711.84,"endTime":715.26,"body":"consultation was probably like,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":715.71,"endTime":720.84,"body":"with every plastic surgery. It"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":715.71,"endTime":720.84,"body":"was he had his office. 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He's trying to make"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":754.05,"endTime":758.76,"body":"e aware that this would look go"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":758.76,"endTime":764.52,"body":"d on me because of my proportion"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":758.76,"endTime":764.52,"body":".\" So, he was looking at my case"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":764.52,"endTime":769.02,"body":"He was not just doing it bec"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":764.52,"endTime":769.02,"body":"use everybody else was getting"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":769.02,"endTime":769.95,"body":"uge big impla"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":773.99,"endTime":781.4,"body":"Back then, probably, around"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":773.99,"endTime":781.4,"body":"$5,000, in the--. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":781.55,"endTime":783.41,"body":"Did you get"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":781.55,"endTime":783.41,"body":"saline or silicone? Do you"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":783.41,"endTime":783.8,"body":"remember?"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":783.83,"endTime":787.28,"body":"No, I got"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":783.83,"endTime":787.28,"body":"silicone. But, back then--and"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":787.37,"endTime":792.35,"body":"this is well now we know it--it"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":787.37,"endTime":792.35,"body":"was the rugged implant."},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":792.41,"endTime":793.1,"body":"The textured."},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":793.16,"endTime":795.29,"body":"The"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":793.16,"endTime":795.29,"body":"textured one because it was it"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":795.29,"endTime":799.97,"body":"just came out. And he said to me"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":795.29,"endTime":799.97,"body":"\"Well, and this might have less"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":800.48,"endTime":802.19,"body":"problems with encapsulation.\""},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":802.22,"endTime":802.58,"body":"Yeah."},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":802.6,"endTime":804.49,"body":"Now, we"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":802.6,"endTime":804.49,"body":"know that probably that's not"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":804.49,"endTime":806.14,"body":"it. But, yeah."},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":806.44,"endTime":809.41,"body":"And, a lot of"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":806.44,"endTime":809.41,"body":"doctors--in about 20 years"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":809.83,"endTime":811.36,"body":"ago--were doing those kinds of"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":809.83,"endTime":811.36,"body":"implants."},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":811.39,"endTime":811.57,"body":"Oh yeah."},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":811.57,"endTime":813.7,"body":"Round, textured"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":811.57,"endTime":813.7,"body":"implants. They were putting the"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":813.7,"endTime":816.16,"body":"implants in above the muscle,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":813.7,"endTime":816.16,"body":"which is the way you had it"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":816.16,"endTime":816.31,"body":"done."},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":816.31,"endTime":816.61,"body":"Yes."},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":816.85,"endTime":819.28,"body":"And, he put it"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":816.85,"endTime":819.28,"body":"in through--did he go through"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":819.28,"endTime":821.26,"body":"your areola or through the fold?"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":821.74,"endTime":824.02,"body":"No, he"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":821.74,"endTime":824.02,"body":"went underneath the breast."},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":824.02,"endTime":824.08,"body":"Yeah."},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":824.11,"endTime":827.47,"body":"Okay. And, how"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":824.11,"endTime":827.47,"body":"did that surgery go for you?"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":827.84,"endTime":830.36,"body":"It went"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":827.84,"endTime":830.36,"body":"well. Although, one of the--and"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":830.45,"endTime":834.02,"body":"I think that it was my left"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":830.45,"endTime":834.02,"body":"side. We had to I had to have"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":834.05,"endTime":837.68,"body":"antibiotics at the post op."},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":838.04,"endTime":840.05,"body":"Did they give"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":838.04,"endTime":840.05,"body":"you antibiotics before surgery?"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":840.14,"endTime":842.93,"body":"Yes, they"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":840.14,"endTime":842.93,"body":"did. But then I had a little"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":842.96,"endTime":847.7,"body":"one. I think one of the stitches"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":842.96,"endTime":847.7,"body":"got--got an infection. So, he"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":847.7,"endTime":849.89,"body":"gave me oral for afterwards."},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":849.92,"endTime":851.57,"body":"Did you have"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":849.92,"endTime":851.57,"body":"oral before surgery?"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":852.44,"endTime":856.22,"body":"No, I had,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":852.44,"endTime":856.22,"body":"I think, no, I just had the"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":856.22,"endTime":857.6,"body":"antibiotics on surgery."},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":857.63,"endTime":857.93,"body":"Okay."},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":857.93,"endTime":860.27,"body":"But, also"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":857.93,"endTime":860.27,"body":"in those days, he would put a"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":860.27,"endTime":863.42,"body":"drainage. So, I had, yeah--"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":863.42,"endTime":864.08,"body":"Drain tubes."},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":864.17,"endTime":865.37,"body":"A drain"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":864.17,"endTime":865.37,"body":"tube. Yes."},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":865.37,"endTime":867.53,"body":"Oh wow. So, the"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":865.37,"endTime":867.53,"body":"way we do breast augmentation"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":867.53,"endTime":870.95,"body":"now, the way I do it, at least"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":867.53,"endTime":870.95,"body":"is there's never drains. The"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":870.95,"endTime":873.71,"body":"reason we don't do drains now."},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":870.95,"endTime":873.71,"body":"And I know you know a lot of"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":873.71,"endTime":877.61,"body":"this because you're a physician,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":873.71,"endTime":877.61,"body":"is because drains increase the"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":877.61,"endTime":880.55,"body":"risk of encapsulation. They"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":877.61,"endTime":880.55,"body":"increase the risk of infection,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":880.58,"endTime":883.13,"body":"they cause an extra scar site"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":880.58,"endTime":883.13,"body":"where the drain comes out of."},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":883.49,"endTime":886.49,"body":"The other thing that we do now"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":883.49,"endTime":886.49,"body":"is we start patients on"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":886.49,"endTime":890.21,"body":"antibiotics the day before"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":886.49,"endTime":890.21,"body":"surgery, and I keep them on them"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":890.21,"endTime":893.09,"body":"for at least seven days. And,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":890.21,"endTime":893.09,"body":"that's been shown to help"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":893.09,"endTime":895.4,"body":"decrease the rate of infection"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":893.09,"endTime":895.4,"body":"in our practice and also"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":895.4,"endTime":899.63,"body":"encapsulation. The surgery went"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":895.4,"endTime":899.63,"body":"smooth for you. How was your"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":899.63,"endTime":900.23,"body":"recovery?"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":901.28,"endTime":906.62,"body":"It was, it"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":901.28,"endTime":906.62,"body":"was fast. I was doing my daily"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":906.62,"endTime":909.68,"body":"activities probably two weeks"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":906.62,"endTime":909.68,"body":"after that."},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":909.77,"endTime":910.1,"body":"Mm hmm."},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":910.28,"endTime":912.8,"body":"And yeah,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":910.28,"endTime":912.8,"body":"and everything went great."},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":912.83,"endTime":913.67,"body":"How was the"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":912.83,"endTime":913.67,"body":"pain?"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":915.08,"endTime":917.18,"body":"The pain."},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":915.08,"endTime":917.18,"body":"Well, I'm very good with pain."},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":917.18,"endTime":921.2,"body":"So I don't know if I can be like"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":917.18,"endTime":921.2,"body":"the standard patient."},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":921.0,"endTime":921.27,"body":"Yeah."},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":921.9,"endTime":924.63,"body":"And yeah,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":921.9,"endTime":924.63,"body":"so it was it was exactly the"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":924.63,"endTime":925.77,"body":"same as with you."},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":925.92,"endTime":926.28,"body":"Yeah."},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":926.31,"endTime":928.68,"body":"It"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":926.31,"endTime":928.68,"body":"was--there was no like"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":929.73,"endTime":934.14,"body":"unbearable pain going through."},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":929.73,"endTime":934.14,"body":"Um, yeah, so."},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":933.15,"endTime":935.52,"body":"And implants,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":933.15,"endTime":935.52,"body":"when implants are placed, they"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":935.52,"endTime":938.49,"body":"can be placed in one of two"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":935.52,"endTime":938.49,"body":"positions. You can either put"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":938.49,"endTime":942.72,"body":"them above the muscle or below"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":938.49,"endTime":942.72,"body":"the muscle. The way most high"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":942.72,"endTime":947.37,"body":"volume breast augmentation"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":942.72,"endTime":947.37,"body":"surgeons do it now is below the"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":947.37,"endTime":951.66,"body":"muscle. The reason you do it"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":947.37,"endTime":951.66,"body":"below the muscle is many. First,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":951.72,"endTime":956.22,"body":"you get a lower risk of sagging"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":951.72,"endTime":956.22,"body":"long term. Number two, you get a"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":956.28,"endTime":959.67,"body":"lower risk of capsular"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":956.28,"endTime":959.67,"body":"contracture. Now, it depend"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":959.67,"endTime":963.39,"body":"on the studies, you look at. Ca"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":959.67,"endTime":963.39,"body":"sular contracture above the musc"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":963.39,"endTime":968.61,"body":"e can be up to 25%. Below the"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":963.39,"endTime":968.61,"body":"uscle, 7-8% and even lower t"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":968.61,"endTime":973.23,"body":"an that. So, that the convention"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":968.61,"endTime":973.23,"body":"now for most high volume peopl"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":973.23,"endTime":975.72,"body":"is to go below the muscle."},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":975.72,"endTime":979.2,"body":"Now, textured implants are"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":975.72,"endTime":979.2,"body":"controversial. Back in the day,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":979.62,"endTime":982.92,"body":"the textured was used because"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":979.62,"endTime":982.92,"body":"many people were putting"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":982.92,"endTime":984.96,"body":"implants above the muscle like"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":982.92,"endTime":984.96,"body":"your doctor did. That was a"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":984.96,"endTime":990.15,"body":"popular method. 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So back then, and this is"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":1037.49,"endTime":1039.59,"body":"it--I'm telling you this was 20"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":1037.49,"endTime":1039.59,"body":"years ago."},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":1039.62,"endTime":1039.98,"body":"Mm hmm."},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":1040.94,"endTime":1043.22,"body":"Yeah, all"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":1040.94,"endTime":1043.22,"body":"of the techniques, or the"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":1043.22,"endTime":1046.94,"body":"technique that he did, it was in"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":1043.22,"endTime":1046.94,"body":"order for it to look more"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":1046.94,"endTime":1051.47,"body":"natural. 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And most doctors do that."},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":1858.08,"endTime":1859.88,"body":"Most of my friends did it that"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":1858.08,"endTime":1859.88,"body":"way."},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":1860.51,"endTime":1861.65,"body":"Did you do"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":1860.51,"endTime":1861.65,"body":"that?"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":1861.8,"endTime":1863.6,"body":"No,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":1861.8,"endTime":1863.6,"body":"because I was already married."},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":1863.6,"endTime":1867.44,"body":"And, I knew that we were coming"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":1863.6,"endTime":1867.44,"body":"to the States. 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You have"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":1888.29,"endTime":1890.9,"body":"two amazing children right now."},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":1890.9,"endTime":1891.71,"body":"Boy and a girl, right?"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":1891.71,"endTime":1894.47,"body":"A boy and"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":1891.71,"endTime":1894.47,"body":"a girl. The girl is 13 and the"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":1894.47,"endTime":1895.82,"body":"boy's just turned 10."},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":1896.12,"endTime":1897.53,"body":"And, you"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":1896.12,"endTime":1897.53,"body":"started noticing some"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":1897.56,"endTime":1900.47,"body":"differences with your breasts?"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":1897.56,"endTime":1900.47,"body":"Some hardening? Is that correct?"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":1900.469,"endTime":1903.619,"body":"Yes, it"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":1900.469,"endTime":1903.619,"body":"was. So they start I think that"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":1903.619,"endTime":1907.669,"body":"they started so--. I had Nadia"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":1903.619,"endTime":1907.669,"body":"and then I breastfed her. Thank"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":1907.669,"endTime":1913.369,"body":"goodness, I could do that. 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So"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2047.2,"endTime":2050.11,"body":"and this is the thing, I knew"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2050.11,"endTime":2054.31,"body":"that I needed the revision was"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2050.11,"endTime":2054.31,"body":"that once once I started getting"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2054.43,"endTime":2058.63,"body":"the pain and the and you could"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2054.43,"endTime":2058.63,"body":"tell that the implants were not"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2058.63,"endTime":2062.11,"body":"on this on the position that"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2058.63,"endTime":2062.11,"body":"they were at the beginning."},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":2062.23,"endTime":2062.56,"body":"Mm hmm."},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2062.62,"endTime":2064.81,"body":"I said,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2062.62,"endTime":2064.81,"body":"\"You know what we need to we"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2064.81,"endTime":2070.27,"body":"need to revise this.\" And"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2064.81,"endTime":2070.27,"body":"actually I, I call my plastic"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2070.27,"endTime":2074.56,"body":"surgeon who did the and he said,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2070.27,"endTime":2074.56,"body":"Yeah, you can come to Chile and"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2074.59,"endTime":2080.05,"body":"we can do it.\" That was not an"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2074.59,"endTime":2080.05,"body":"issue. But then I started, my"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2080.05,"endTime":2083.38,"body":"husband said well, but it's I"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2080.05,"endTime":2083.38,"body":"don't I don't want you to have"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2083.38,"endTime":2086.77,"body":"it over there because we live"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2083.38,"endTime":2086.77,"body":"here kind of like it was more of"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2086.77,"endTime":2088.27,"body":"a logistic kind of thing."},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":2089.35,"endTime":2089.44,"body":"Mm hmm."},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2089.68,"endTime":2092.26,"body":"And, and"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2089.68,"endTime":2092.26,"body":"then I started Okay, I need to"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2092.26,"endTime":2095.95,"body":"research for what plastic"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2092.26,"endTime":2095.95,"body":"surgeons should do my revision."},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":2096.1,"endTime":2098.17,"body":"And I know you"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":2096.1,"endTime":2098.17,"body":"live a little bit south of"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":2098.17,"endTime":2098.74,"body":"Seattle."},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2098.77,"endTime":2100.99,"body":"Yes. I"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2098.77,"endTime":2100.99,"body":"live in wonderful Gig Harbor."},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":2100.99,"endTime":2102.34,"body":"Yes, beautiful"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":2100.99,"endTime":2102.34,"body":"area."},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2102.34,"endTime":2102.7,"body":"Oh, yeah."},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":2102.73,"endTime":2105.76,"body":"So, so nice."},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":2102.73,"endTime":2105.76,"body":"And you I remember when I met"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":2105.76,"endTime":2107.74,"body":"you, you told me you looked"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":2105.76,"endTime":2107.74,"body":"around quite a bit."},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2108.22,"endTime":2108.31,"body":"Oh yeah."},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":2108.31,"endTime":2110.74,"body":"And, then you"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":2108.31,"endTime":2110.74,"body":"had another consult at least one"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":2110.74,"endTime":2111.73,"body":"before meeting me."},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2111.76,"endTime":2113.17,"body":"So you"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2111.76,"endTime":2113.17,"body":"were the third one."},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":2113.35,"endTime":2113.68,"body":"Okay."},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2113.71,"endTime":2116.68,"body":"The third"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2113.71,"endTime":2116.68,"body":"is the charm, they call it. 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From your nurses to"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2437.2,"endTime":2440.8,"body":"your receptionist, everybody's"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2437.2,"endTime":2440.8,"body":"on board, and everybody is on"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2440.8,"endTime":2447.25,"body":"the same page. So and that makes"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2440.8,"endTime":2447.25,"body":"your your, your practice so"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2447.64,"endTime":2448.39,"body":"fabulous."},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":2448.45,"endTime":2451.9,"body":"Thank you. You"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":2448.45,"endTime":2451.9,"body":"were doing well. You healed well"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":2451.9,"endTime":2452.74,"body":"from that surgery."},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2452.77,"endTime":2453.13,"body":"Yes."},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":2453.16,"endTime":2455.11,"body":"And, you're"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":2453.16,"endTime":2455.11,"body":"when I did your surgery, your"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":2455.5,"endTime":2458.8,"body":"right breast had that real"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":2455.5,"endTime":2458.8,"body":"encapsulation. So we really"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":2458.8,"endTime":2462.25,"body":"focused on that. 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With from, I'm telling"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2693.64,"endTime":2699.1,"body":"you, every employee that you"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2693.64,"endTime":2699.1,"body":"have, and in most of all, I"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2699.1,"endTime":2704.47,"body":"think that you backup your job."},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2699.1,"endTime":2704.47,"body":"And I think that I--"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":2704.47,"endTime":2705.67,"body":"Do you feeI did"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":2704.47,"endTime":2705.67,"body":"that with your--?"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2705.73,"endTime":2708.01,"body":"Oh yes."},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2705.73,"endTime":2708.01,"body":"And I think that I think that"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2708.01,"endTime":2717.58,"body":"you are that what I like about"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2708.01,"endTime":2717.58,"body":"you is that you want to learn"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2717.58,"endTime":2723.1,"body":"from your mistakes, which is not"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2717.58,"endTime":2723.1,"body":"something that you usually find"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2723.13,"endTime":2727.69,"body":"in surgeons, and I'm telling"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2723.13,"endTime":2727.69,"body":"this because I know the"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2728.02,"endTime":2732.91,"body":"personality of a surgeon. 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Although,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2822.61,"endTime":2826.63,"body":"probably, I will bring her to"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2822.61,"endTime":2826.63,"body":"you. But she has to make up her"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2826.63,"endTime":2826.96,"body":"mind."},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":2827.08,"endTime":2827.38,"body":"Of course."},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2827.38,"endTime":2829.27,"body":"So, I"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2827.38,"endTime":2829.27,"body":"think that that is a because"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2829.27,"endTime":2833.26,"body":"it's a very personal decision."},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2829.27,"endTime":2833.26,"body":"You have to feel comfortable"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2833.26,"endTime":2838.99,"body":"with the procedure itself. 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Much happier in the long"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":2929.34,"endTime":2933.09,"body":"run and we get a smoother"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":2933.09,"endTime":2933.6,"body":"journey."},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2933.72,"endTime":2935.7,"body":"Yeah, I"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2933.72,"endTime":2935.7,"body":"think every decision in life,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2935.7,"endTime":2938.88,"body":"not just your plastic surgery. I"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2935.7,"endTime":2938.88,"body":"think that every decision in"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2938.88,"endTime":2943.11,"body":"life if you do it because it's"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2938.88,"endTime":2943.11,"body":"something that you want to do,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2943.44,"endTime":2946.56,"body":"it's the right decision. 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But if you're"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2946.56,"endTime":2949.05,"body":"doing it because you want to"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2949.05,"endTime":2952.26,"body":"please someone else, because you"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2949.05,"endTime":2952.26,"body":"want to show something, or"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2952.26,"endTime":2956.7,"body":"because you there's other"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2952.26,"endTime":2956.7,"body":"motives to do it, you are never"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2956.7,"endTime":2957.63,"body":"going to be happy."},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":2957.0,"endTime":2959.91,"body":"I really agree"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":2957.0,"endTime":2959.91,"body":"with another thing you said"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":2959.94,"endTime":2963.66,"body":"earlier about not having"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":2959.94,"endTime":2963.66,"body":"regrets. I believe life happens"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":2963.66,"endTime":2966.9,"body":"the way it does for a reason and"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":2963.66,"endTime":2966.9,"body":"a purpose. And you make"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":2966.9,"endTime":2970.26,"body":"something out of that. If you"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":2966.9,"endTime":2970.26,"body":"look back at your experience"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":2970.26,"endTime":2972.63,"body":"now, would you do anything"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":2970.26,"endTime":2972.63,"body":"differently?"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2973.71,"endTime":2976.05,"body":"Yes, I"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2973.71,"endTime":2976.05,"body":"think that what I would have"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2976.05,"endTime":2979.89,"body":"done is a little bit more"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2976.05,"endTime":2979.89,"body":"research on my part. In the"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2979.89,"endTime":2984.84,"body":"sense not that I didn't trust my"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2979.89,"endTime":2984.84,"body":"plastic surgeon but I think that"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2984.84,"endTime":2988.5,"body":"it was not the right plastic"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2984.84,"endTime":2988.5,"body":"surgeon for my breast implant."},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2990.12,"endTime":2994.2,"body":"For example, my plastic surgeon"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2990.12,"endTime":2994.2,"body":"was a great surgeon that was"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2994.2,"endTime":2999.69,"body":"doing burn people. And he was,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2994.2,"endTime":2999.69,"body":"he is he is he's great at doing"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2999.69,"endTime":3005.21,"body":"that. I think that probably he"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":2999.69,"endTime":3005.21,"body":"was beginning to do breast"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":3005.21,"endTime":3011.15,"body":"implants or he was not giving"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":3005.21,"endTime":3011.15,"body":"his 100% on that. And then the"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":3011.15,"endTime":3014.3,"body":"other thing is that and I think"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":3011.15,"endTime":3014.3,"body":"that it has changed in Chile"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":3014.57,"endTime":3024.08,"body":"now, but in those days, the"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":3014.57,"endTime":3024.08,"body":"surgeons had had they didn't"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":3024.08,"endTime":3028.88,"body":"have their own clinics, so they"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":3024.08,"endTime":3028.88,"body":"own ORs like you do in Lynnwood."},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":3029.24,"endTime":3034.76,"body":"They what they do is that they"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":3029.24,"endTime":3034.76,"body":"get benefits on a hospital."},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":3034.76,"endTime":3034.85,"body":"Mm hmm."},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":3035.0,"endTime":3037.19,"body":"So when I"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":3035.0,"endTime":3037.19,"body":"did my plastic surgery and was"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":3037.19,"endTime":3041.48,"body":"on it was an OR on a hospital,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":3037.19,"endTime":3041.48,"body":"which probably that makes it"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":3041.48,"endTime":3044.27,"body":"more risky for infections, you"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":3041.48,"endTime":3044.27,"body":"see."},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":3044.27,"endTime":3044.45,"body":"It's true."},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":3044.6,"endTime":3047.66,"body":"So if"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":3044.6,"endTime":3047.66,"body":"you're researching for plastic"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":3047.66,"endTime":3052.76,"body":"surgery, and this is for the"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":3047.66,"endTime":3052.76,"body":"Latin American viewers that you"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":3052.76,"endTime":3057.83,"body":"have, see if you can get a"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":3052.76,"endTime":3057.83,"body":"plastic surgeon that has its own"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":3058.01,"endTime":3058.58,"body":"OR."},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":3059.2,"endTime":3059.74,"body":"I agree with"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":3059.2,"endTime":3059.74,"body":"you."},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":3059.75,"endTime":3061.94,"body":"And not"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":3059.75,"endTime":3061.94,"body":"doing it. And I think that that"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":3061.97,"endTime":3067.94,"body":"I think that would be my regret,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":3061.97,"endTime":3067.94,"body":"sort of, but I wouldn't change"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":3067.97,"endTime":3071.12,"body":"the whole path because I"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":3067.97,"endTime":3071.12,"body":"wouldn't be meeting you so."},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":3070.65,"endTime":3072.57,"body":"Thank you."},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":3070.65,"endTime":3072.57,"body":"There's a lot of data on that"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":3072.57,"endTime":3076.41,"body":"actually looking at infection"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":3072.57,"endTime":3076.41,"body":"rates at an ambulatory surgic"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":3076.41,"endTime":3079.65,"body":"l center versus an inpatie"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":3076.41,"endTime":3079.65,"body":"t hospital. And you're absolute"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":3079.65,"endTime":3083.16,"body":"y right, the infection rates a"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":3079.65,"endTime":3083.16,"body":"e lower. Almost alwa"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":3084.0,"endTime":3085.83,"body":"Well, in"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":3084.0,"endTime":3085.83,"body":"Chile, it changed. Kind of like"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":3085.89,"endTime":3090.54,"body":"10 years ago. Now. I think those"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":3085.89,"endTime":3090.54,"body":"that my my friends that live in"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":3090.54,"endTime":3093.45,"body":"Chile, and they have gone"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":3090.54,"endTime":3093.45,"body":"through plastic surgeons because"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":3093.48,"endTime":3098.97,"body":"we're aging. 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The number one reason"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":3189.6,"endTime":3192.54,"body":"\"I felt bad. I felt ashamed. I"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":3189.6,"endTime":3192.54,"body":"felt stupid.\""},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":3193.05,"endTime":3195.96,"body":"Exactly."},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":3193.05,"endTime":3195.96,"body":"And I--it has nothing, it's out"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":3195.96,"endTime":3198.6,"body":"of your control. That's what I"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":3195.96,"endTime":3198.6,"body":"would say. It's out of your"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":3198.6,"endTime":3202.41,"body":"control. And it's something that"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":3198.6,"endTime":3202.41,"body":"if you have, breast implants"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":3202.44,"endTime":3206.88,"body":"might happen. 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Once again, see, see"},{"speaker":"Dr. Alexandra Kohles","startTime":3221.37,"endTime":3223.68,"body":"if this surgeon is good for you."},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":3224.53,"endTime":3226.96,"body":"Makes sense."},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":3224.53,"endTime":3226.96,"body":"Thank you, Alexandra. Thank you"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":3226.96,"endTime":3230.2,"body":"so much for being our guest"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":3226.96,"endTime":3230.2,"body":"today. I have learned a lot from"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":3230.2,"endTime":3233.5,"body":"you and your experience and I"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":3230.2,"endTime":3233.5,"body":"hope your ordeal teaches our"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":3233.5,"endTime":3236.77,"body":"listeners how and what to expect"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":3233.5,"endTime":3236.77,"body":"as they start their own journey"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":3236.77,"endTime":3241.24,"body":"for cosmetic surgery. I"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":3236.77,"endTime":3241.24,"body":"appreciate you, your story, your"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":3241.24,"endTime":3243.79,"body":"time, and I'm honored to have"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":3241.24,"endTime":3243.79,"body":"you as a good patient,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":3243.82,"endTime":3247.72,"body":"confidant, and friend. Thanks"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":3243.82,"endTime":3247.72,"body":"for listening to the Plastic"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":3247.72,"endTime":3252.1,"body":"Surgeon Podcast and tune in next"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":3247.72,"endTime":3252.1,"body":"week for my amazing guest who"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":3252.1,"endTime":3256.0,"body":"had gender affirming surgery,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":3252.1,"endTime":3256.0,"body":"also known as transgender"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":3256.0,"endTime":3259.24,"body":"surgery. I look forward to"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":3256.0,"endTime":3259.24,"body":"hearing from you on next week's"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":3259.3,"endTime":3265.03,"body":"podcast and catch us on all"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":3259.3,"endTime":3265.03,"body":"social media @realdrseattle. Bam"},{"speaker":"Dr. Javad Sajan","startTime":3265.21,"endTime":3265.63,"body":"What!"}]}